Closed Caption Log, Council Meeting, 02/14/02

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MAYOR GARCIA: I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER. WE WILL GO FIRST TO THE TIME CONCERN........CERTAIN, WE WILL COME BACK TO READ CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS AND OTHER TIME CERTAINS, BUT RIGHT NOW WE WILL GO INTO THE 1:30 TIME CERTAIN, WHICH IS THE CITIZENSS COMMUNICATION -- CITIZENS COMMUNICATION GENERAL, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MR. JIMMY CASTRO FOLLOWED BY GAVINO FERNANDEZ. MR. CASTRO, WELCOME, SIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR GARCIA, COUNCILMEMBERS AND MR. GARZA, I DO HAVE SLIDES TO SHOW YOU, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON MY OWN BEHALF, I HAVE ALSO SERVED AS A FORMER BOARD MEMBER OF THE MILLWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THIS FIRST SLIDE SHOWS THAT I AM HERE TO REMIND EVERYONE FOR THE 2002 STAR OF TEXAS FAIR AND RODEO, WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE MARCH 2ND THROUGH THE 16TH AT THE TRAVIS COUNTY EXPOSITION CENTER. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE 2002 GALA AND SILENT AUCTION IS SET TO SHINE ON FEBRUARY 23RD. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE STAR OF TEXAS FAIR AND RODEO ANNUAL PARADE WILL TAKE PLACE ON SATURDAY, MARCH THE 2ND. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE BEST WAY TO START YOUR FRIDAY ON MARCH ARE THE 1ST WILL BE AT THE COWBOY BREAKFAST FROM 6:00 A.M. TO 9:00 A.M. AT THE AUDITORIUM SHORES. THE BARBECUE COOKOFF IS SET FOR MARCH 8TH, 9TH AND 10TH. THE NECK SLIDE SHOWS, THE LIVESTOCK SHOW AND YOUTH FAIR AUCTIONS PROVIDE CENTRAL TEXAS YOUTH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THEIR PROJECTS AND WIN SCHOLARSHIP MONEY. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS, THE STAR OF TEXAS FAIR AND RODEO JUNIOR MARKET AND YOUTH FAIR AUCTIONS ARE THE CLIMAX OF A YEAR'S WORK BY THE 4H APPEARED THE FUTURE FARMERS OF AMERICA MEMBERS. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS IN 2001, THE STAR OF TEXAS FAIR AND RODEO AWARDED 1.2 MILLION TO 2,200 KIDS AND THE SURROUNDING 22 COUNTIES. STUDENT ARE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE SCHOLARSHIPS AND PARTICIPATE IN THE LIVESTOCK SHOW AND YOUTH FAIR. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE YOUTH FAIR PUTS THE FAIR IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FAIR AND RODEO. THE LAST SLIDE SHOWS, THANKS TO THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF ESTABLISHED BUYER GROUPS, AREA BUSINESSES AN THOUSANDS OF VISITORS, THIS HAS MADE THE STAR OF TEXAS FAIR AND RODEO THE SUCCESS IT IS TODAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR GARCIA.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU, MR. CASTRO, MR. GAVINO FERNANDEZ, WELCOME, SIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR GARCIA, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS GAVINO FERNANDEZ WITH EL CONCILIO, A COALITION OF MEXICO AMERICAN -- MEXICAN AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND REGISTERED VOTERS IN OUR COMMUNITIES, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS TO VOTE IN THE UPCOMING PRIMARIES ON MARCH THE 12TH, WHICH EARLY VOTE BEGINS ON FEBRUARY THE 25TH AND RUNS THROUGH MARCH THE -- THE 8TH. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT OUR COMMUNITY INCREASE ITS NUMBERS OF PARTICIPATING IN THIS DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE TWO MEXICO AMERICANS RUNNING FOR HIGH OFFICE AND ONE OF THEM COULD BECOME GOVERNOR OF TEXAS. BUT I THINK THAT IT BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT THEN THAT OUR COMMUNITY, OUR REGISTERED VOTER IN OUR BARRIOS AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS COME OUT AND VOTE DURING THIS DEMOCRATIC PROCESS ON MARCH THE 12TH. AND TO ALSO REMIND THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT YOUR CHOICE FOR STATE REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT 51, SHOULD BE MARCOS DELEON. I DO WANT TO ALSO TALK ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE AS A CITY GOVERNMENT HAVE AND THAT IS IN PURCHASING PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BECOME AVAILABLE AND FOR SALE IN OR AROUND THE SOUP KITCHEN LOCATED ON CESAR CHAVEZ. I THINK THAT THIS WOULD GIVE US OR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY A BETTER CONTROL OVER DEVELOPMENT THAT SOUNDS THOSE -- THAT SOUNDS THAT FACILITY. WE FEEL THAT -- THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE COULD INVEST DOLLARS INTO. WE NEED TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT WINDOWS OF OPPORTUNITY, CDBG DOLLARS, FEDERAL DOLLARS OR GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, I THINK, THIS -- THIS FALLS RIGHT INTO THE ARGUMENT OF PRESERVING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE WE WANT TO PRESERVE GREEN SPACE IN WEST AUSTIN. SO I THINK THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY AND I WOULD HOPE THAT ONE OF YOU COUNCILMEMBERS WOULD LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY OF BUYING THESE PROPERTIES AND HAVING THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT OF THESE PROPERTIES IN THE HANDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE A GIANT STEP IN RESPECTS TO A LOT OF RHETORIC THAT I HAVE HEARD FROM THIS COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO ADDRESSING INEQUITIES AND INJUSTICES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN EAST AUSTIN. WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ONCE AGAIN URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE, SO THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CAN ONCE AGAIN BECOME A SAFE PLACE AND A SAFE AREA TO WALK IN. WE HAVE ALWAYS ASKED AND WILL CONTINUE TO ASK FOR FOOT PATROL IN THIS AREA, TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE FEARS THAT EXIST IN THIS COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF OUR SENIOR CITIZENS AND OUR CHILDREN THAT WALK BACK AND FORTH TO SCHOOL TO SANCHEZ ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU, MR. FERN MAN DEZ. LET ME ALSO -- FERN MAN DEZ. LET ME ALSO ANNOUNCE THAT MS. BETTY EDGEMOND WILL NOT BE AT THIS MEETING, ITEM NO. 9 WE WILL NOT BE CONSIDERING. MR. AKWASI EVANS, FOLLOWING MR. EVANS IS MR. GUS PENA. MR. AKWASI EVANS? WELCOME, SIR.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE WELCOME, WELCOME TO ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY MANAGER AND INTERIM CITY MANAGER. GUS PENA, PRESIDENT OF EAST AUSTIN CONCERNED HISPANICS AND SECOND VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE RAINBOW COALITION, WHICH IS A CITY OF AUSTIN AFFILIATION OF THE STATE-WIDE COALITION. TO MY RIGHT IS MY BOY LUCIO WHO ATTENDS DAWSON ELEMENTARY. AGAIN, I TRY TO STRIVE, LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES AND HOW THEY WORK. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WOULD LIKE TO AGAIN REITERATE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST IN EAST AUSTIN. BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE LIFE INSURANCE, THERE BY WHEN THE ISSUE OF BURIAL COMES TO MIND, THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE BURIAL. AND I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO SOUND LIKE A COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S NOT MEANT THAT WAY. I WANT TO COMMEND AND APPRECIATE PEOPLE THAT HELP OUT THE NEEDY, HAVE-NOTS. MISSION FUNERAL HOME PROVIDED SERVICES FOR THIS GENTLEMAN WHO DIED WITHOUT LIFE INSURANCE AND MIGHT HAVE BEEN INTURNED AT THE COUNTY -- INTERNED AT THE COUNTY CEMETERY WITHOUT ANY HEAD STONE. ANYWAY, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THEM TAKING CARE OF THIS INDIVIDUAL WHO OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE BEEN BURIED ELSEWHERE AND WAS BURIED AT ASSUMPTION. MAYOR GARCIA AND COUNCILMEMBERS, I WANTED TO BRING A -- MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SCHOOL BASED CLINICS, DANE, ALLISON, WALNUT CREEK WERE CLOSED TO CONSOLIDATE THE SERVICES AT THE CLINICS. NUMBER ONE, WHERE IS THE NEAREST HEALTH CLINIC IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN? ON EAST STASSNEY DRIVE, I BELIEVE. NOT NEAR THE SCHOOL. ALLISON, YOU HAVE THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD CLINIC, BUT STILL, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE NURSE STAFFED OVER THERE. WALNUT CREEK, NOT NEAR ANY KIND OF HEALTH CLINIC FACILITY OTHER THAN NORTHEAST CLINIC ON 183 AT ED BLUESTEIN BOULEVARD. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU. I'M ALL ABOUT PROVIDING SERVICES AND HELP FOR OUR COMMUNITY. BUT AT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, OUR GOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE HAS BROUGHT UP A RESOLUTION THAT WE WILL BE PRESENTING TO YOU ABOUT -- ABOUT NO TAX INCREASE. WE'VE HAD ENOUGH INCREASES ALREADY. I KNOW WE NEED THE FUNDING. ALL THE ISSUES THAT CAME OUT IN THE PAPER IN REGARDS TO THIS ISSUE, COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ, WE RESPECT AND WE ARE SUPPORTING. BUT YOU VERY WELL KNOW WE HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR THOSE ISSUES FOR MANY YEARS. SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER WE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOUR OFFICE, ALL OF THE OFFICES BECAUSE THESE ARE NEEDED. BUT PLEASE WE ARE BEING TAXED TO DEATH ALREADY, THOSE THAT OWN PROPERTY. IT'S JUST A TAXING ISSUE SOME SENIOR CITIZENS CANNOT AFFORD ANYMORE. THEY HAVE TO REENTER THE WORKFORCE TO MAKE ENDS MEET. I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS LAST ONE. A SOCIETY'S WORTH WILL BE MEASURED BY ITS TREATMENT OF THE LESS FORTUNATE. THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SOME WISE AND PRUDENT DECISIONS. MAYOR GARCIA, I KNOW THAT YOU READ THIS ARTICLE IN THE PAPER, BUSH VIDEOSS AGAINST SCHOOLS STARTING OUT TO FILL THE EDUCATION GAP. I APPLAUD YOUR COMMITTEE, IT'S WELL NEEDED [BUZZER SOUNDING] I WILL WRAP UP. PROBLEMS AT ALL CAMPUSES STARTING WITH DISCIPLINE AND LACK OF EDUCATION, I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WE DOING BETTER THAN THAT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MR. PENA. MR. AKWASI EVANS. MR. EVANS COME IN? MR. JOSE QUINTERO. WELCOME, SIR.

GOOD EVENING CITIZENS OF EAST AUSTIN. MY NAME IS JOSE QUINTERO, WITH THE GREATER EAST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'M HERE TO EXPLOIT THE NAME OF CESAR CHAVEZ WHO FOUGHT FOR INJUSTICES. INJUSTICES ARE CAUSES THAT ARE HAPPENING TO US RIGHT NOW IN OUR COMMUNITY. I LIVE IN THE INNER CITY, I LIVE TWO, THREE BLOCKS FROM I-35. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF INJUSTICE DONE TO OUR COMMUNITY. TAXES HAVE BEEN RISEN [SIC]. ZONING CHANGES IMPLEMENTED BY THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS AGENDA WHICH WE THAT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY DID NOT SUPPORT. BUT YOU SUPPORTED IT, WE DIDN'T WANT IT. YET, YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS HERE, YOUR PET PROJECT ON THE CESAR CHAVEZ NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, WHERE ARE THEY WHEN WE HAVE OUR CONCERNS AND OUR CAUSES? DO THEY EVER COME HERE AND SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THESE ISSUES? OR ARE THEY JUST YOUR PENCIL PUSHERS, GOING OUT THERE TALKING ABOUT THAT THEY PETITION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT THE -- THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD VOTED FOR THIS PLAN AND THAT'S IRRELEVANT FOR YOU TO BELIEVE THAT. THAT'S A LIE. WE BROUGHT PETITIONS HERE, TOO, YOU DENIED THEM. SO IT'S EXAMPLES LIKE BUDWEISER, WE ASKED YOU TO BUY THE BUDWEISER BUILDING FOR MIXED USE FOR MULTIPLE FAMILY HOUSING FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND YOU DIDN'T DO IT. YOU BOUGHT IT FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. AND NOW THE ECONOMY IS DOWN. WHAT DID WE HAVE TO SHOW FOR IT FOR EAST AUSTIN? NOTHING. SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND NOW YOU ARE CONSIDERING TO RUN FOR MAYOR. FOR WHAT? WE ALREADY HAD AN INFAMOUS MAYOR LIKE MAYOR KIRK WATSON, WHAT DID HE DO FOR EAST AUSTIN? HE IS SO GREAT, WHAT HAPPENED? WE HAD AN ARGUMENT WITH THE OIL COMPANY, WE CAME HERE AND FOUGHT VIGOROUSLY ABOUT NOT ZONING THAT PLACE. COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ, YOU WERE THERE FIGHTING FOR US, AN OIL LEAK, 100 GALLONS OF OIL LEAKED INTO THE DRAINAGE. I CALLED THE CITY ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING. THERE'S HOLDING TANKS OVER THERE. BUT WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WANT THESE ISSUES RAISED. WE WANT CLAUSES TO PROTECT GENTRIFICATION. YOU GO TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S ALREADY TWO HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN BOUGHT AND NOW THEY ARE REMODELING JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO GENTRIFICATION AND DO HISTORICAL ZONING. THAT'S PUSHING US OUT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU, MR. QUINTERO. MR. AKWASI EVANS, HAS HIVED? MS. SUSANA ALMANZA AND FOLLOWING HER VERONICA HERNANDEZ. WELCOME.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M SUSANA ALMANZA WITH PODER AND JUST TO BRING UP A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, FOR OUR -- FOR OVER 35 YEARS THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE AROUND THE TANK FARM, WHICH MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH, BUT THOSE THAT ARE NOT IS IN THE AREA OF SPRINGDALE ROAD AND AIRPORT BOULEVARD. STORED MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF PETROLEUM BY PRODUCTS THERE. AND AFTER ORGANIZING AND WORKING AND NETWORKING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WE WERE VICTORIOUS IN CLOSING DOWN THAT TANK FARM. ON FEBRUARY THE 18TH, 1993, EXXON WAS THE LAST OIL CORPORATION TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT TO AGREE TO RELOCATE. THAT'S RIGHT, EAST AUSTIN TOOK ON THE -- SIX OF THE BIGGEST OIL GIANTS IN THE WORLD. AND WE GOT THEM RELOCATE AND IT TOOK A LOT OF WORK. DURING THAT TIME WE HAD A LOT OF CHILDREN AND ELDERLY EXPOSED TO BENZENE, A KNOWN CARCINOGEN. WE HAD THE GROUND WATER CONTAMINATED, STILL BEING CLEANED UP TO THIS DAY. WE HAVE A LOT OF HEALTH ISSUES WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH. WE HAVE LOST A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE WHO HAVE DIED OF VARIOUS CANCERS AND ILLNESSES. AT LEAST THE PEOPLE CAN BREATHE BETTER NOW, NOW THAT THE OIL COMPANIES ARE GONE. BUT THIS YEAR PODER WILL CELEBRATE ITS 9TH VICTORY OF THE TANK FARM CLOSURE. THIS YEAR WE ARE GOING TO BE ESTABLISHING THE ANITA [INAUDIBLE] YOUNG SCHOLARS FOR JUSTICE FUND. THIS FUND WILL BE USED TO HIRE YOUNG COMMUNITY HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE STUDENTS, SOMETHING THAT PODER ALREADY IS DOING, HAS BEEN DOING SINCE 1995, TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMUNITY ISSUES THAT ARE ADDRESSED AND ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT -- THAT IMPACT THE YOUNG PEOPLE -- AND WHAT HAPPENED, SHE WAS ONE OF OUR ELDERS WHO FOUGHT VIGOROUSLY TO CLOSE THAT TANK FARM BECAUSE HER CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WERE SICK. SHE DIED UNEXPECTEDLY LAST YEAR. AND WITH HONORED HER LAST YEAR, BUT THIS YEAR WE ARE STARTING THE ANITA SCHOLARS FOR JUSTICE FUND, WE WANT TO INVITE EVERYONE TO COME OUT, FEBRUARY THE 19TH, AT CONNALLY GUERRERO SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER AT 6:00 UNTIL 7:30. WE WILL BE HAVING DINNER, ALSO HEARING FROM THE YOUNG SCHOLARS FOR JUSTICE PROGRAM YOUTH AND ALSO HAVE SPECIAL ENTERTAINMENT BY DANIEL YANEZ EARTH CONSULT IF YOU ARE DANCERS. WE ALSO WANTED TO THANK THE CITY FOR PUTTING TOGETHER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, HAVING CHUCK LESNIAK BEING THE GO BETWEEN TNRCC AND THE COMMUNITY IN WORKING ON THE TANK FARM ISSUES AND KEEPING US ABREAST OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE TANK FARM CLEANUP. WE THANK THAT THAT -- WE THINK THAT THAT WAS A GOOD PRONG OF HIM BEING A MONITOR AND BEING THE GO-BETWEEN, BETWEEN US AND THE STATE. WE HOPE THAT CONTINUES TO GO ON. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE IN THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PROCESS THAT WE REVISIT THE ZONING OF THE TANK FARM AND WE TIGHTEN UP THAT TANK FARM ZONING. WE LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVE FUNDS RIGHT NOW FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT TANK FARM. [BUZZER SOUNDING]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU, ALMANZA. MS. VERONICA HERNANDEZ. VERONICA HERNANDEZ? JIM NIAS? AND FOLLOWING MR. NIAS IS MR. ROLAND...........ROLANDO PINA.

I AM JIM NIAS, HERE TODAY REPRESENTING THE BROWER FAMILY, WHICH FOR MANY YEARS OWNED THE PROPERTY AT 5335 BURNET ROAD. YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER THAT WAS A SUBJECT FOR AN APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR A BLOOD PLASMA CENTER WHICH BECAME A BIT CONTROVERSIAL. THAT PERMIT WAS ACTUALLY GRANTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT THEN WAS APPEALED AND BECAME THE SUBJECT OF VERY INTENSE OPPOSITION IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO MUCH SO THAT WE -- WE BECAME -- IT BECAME OBVIOUS TO US THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO PREVAIL AND RATHER THAN GO INTO A -- INTO A VERY NASTY DISPUTE WITH THE -- WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS THAT MY CLIENTS FELT A PART OF FOR 50 YEARS, WITHDREW THE APPLICATION. I SENT YOU A LETTER ON NOVEMBER 28TH OF LAST YEAR WITHDRAWING THAT APPLICATION. IN THAT LETTER MENTIONED THAT AS PART OF THE PROCESS, THERE HAD BEEN SOME EASEMENTS REQUIRED AS A CONDITION OF GRANTING THE PERMIT. THERE WAS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND ELECTRIC EASEMENT WHICH PROBABLY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN RECORDED UNTIL THE MATTER WAS FINALLY DECIDED, BUT WERE PREMATURELY RECORDED. AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO DIRECT STAFF TO -- TO RELEASE THOSE EASEMENTS. I MEANT TO BE HERE ON NOVEMBER 29TH, I ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO BE HERE ON NOVEMBER 29TH WHEN THE ISSUE CAME UP TO ASK YOU FOR THAT DIRECTION, BUT I UNDERSTOOD AT THE TIME THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY, THAT THOSE EASEMENTS WOULD BE OF COURSE RELEASED BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE -- REQUIRE THEM AS A CONDITION OF GRANTING THE PERMITS, NOT GRANTING THE PERMIT TO KEEP THE EASEMENT. BUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS HAVE GONE BY, I HAVE INQUIRED AS TO WHAT'S HAPPENED. I HAVE BEEN ADVISED NOW THAT THE REAL ESTATE DIVISION OF PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH IS SORT OF THE KEEPER OF THE EASEMENTS IN REAL ESTATE DOCUMENTS, DOESN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE IN THE ABSENCE OF COUNCIL DIRECTION. I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. IN RELEASING THE EASEMENTS. THEY HAVE A STANDARD PROCESS WHICH REQUIRES THE PAYMENT OF AN APPLICATION FEE, NON-REFUNDSABLE APPLICATION FEE OF 350 PER EASEMENT, WHICH IN THIS CASE WOULD BE $700, THAT'S JUST TO HAVE THE APPLICATION CIRCULATED TO SEE IF -- IF THERE IS SUPPORT IN THE DEPARTMENT FOR RELEASES. IN THIS INCIDENCE, IT SEEMS TO ME THERE SHOULDN'T BE AN IF. THEY SHOULD NOT BE REQUIRED AS CONDITIONS OF GRANTING A PERM AND THE PERMIT NOT GRANTED AND THE EASEMENTS KEPT, OBVIOUSLY. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO REQUIRE THE $700 APPLICATION FEE, EITHER. SO I -- I THOUGHT THE MOST EXTINGUISH SHOWS WAY OF GETTING -- EXPEND SHOWS WAY OF -- EXPIDITIOUS WAY OF GETTING THIS BEFORE YOU WAS TO COME HERE AND ASK YOU TO PLEASE DO THAT. I HAVE PREPARED RELEASE DOCUMENTS ALREADY, SO THAT WORK IS -- I HAVE DONE THAT WORK AND HAVE -- HAVE THOSE HERE AS -- AS WELL AS COPIES OF THE -- OF THE EASEMENTS THAT WERE PREMATURELY RECORDED AND SOME OTHER INFORMATION ABOUT THIS, WHICH -- WHICH I CAN GIVE TO WHOEVER I SHOULD GIVE IT TO, CITY ATTORNEY OR THE MANAGER OR WHOEVER, BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE GIVE US THAT DIRECTION [BUZZER SOUNDING] IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU, MR. NIAS.

[ONE MOMENT PLEASE FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS]

MOST OF US DON'T KNOW THAT DISTRICT. I MYSELF DO KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT NOT THE DISTRICT ITSELF. THE SENATOR IS GOING TO KNOW WHO WE ARE NOW. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD REMAINS VIBRANT WITH GO ! GO ! GO ! OUR PEOPLE. TODAY I'M HERE TO ENCOURAGE MY NEIGHBORS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. I WEAR DIFFERENT HATS. EARLIER A YOUNG KID, A YOUNG BOY TOLD ME THAT I LOOKED LIKE A PERSON HE SAW IN A MOVIE. I TOLD HIM I WORE DIFFERENT HATS AND SOME OF THEM HAVE FEATHERS. I'M A MEMBER OF THE KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. I ALSO WEAR DIFFERENT NAME TAGS. THE NAME TAG I HAVE TODAY IS I'M A WRITE-IN CANDIDATE FOR THE GA LIEN DOUGH PRECINCT 409 PRECINCT CHAIR. I MADE A MISTAKE AND DIDN'T INCLUDE PRECINCT CHAIR ON THERE. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE THAT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER VOLUNTEERED THAT WE CAN STILL MAKE MISTAKES AND BE HUMAN. I URGE MY NEIGHBORS TO WRITE IN THEIR NAME AND COMPETE WITH ME AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. AT THE END OF THE VOTING BALLOT, YOU MAY DO THAT MARCH 12TH. IT TAKES ACTION AND MORE ACTION,. I WANT TO MENTION A BRIEFING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I'M A BOARD MEMBER FOR HABITAT FOR HUMANITIES AND I'M DIRECTED BY HOUSING. -- THEY ARE DIRECTED BY THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE LOW INCOME BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE SENSITIVE TO LOW INCOME HOUSING. I WANT TO URGE THE CITY MANAGER TOBY FUTRELL, AND CONGRATULATIONS, AND I WANT TO URGE YOU TO BE DIFFERENT ABOUT ADDRESSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. [BUZZER]. I MYSELF -- . [BUZZER]. -- DONATE MYSELF TO INNOVATION TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I REMIND YOU WHAT JOHN F. KENNEDY SAID. ASK NOT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY, ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU, ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY. THANK YOU.

MAYOR GARCIA: MS. FUTTRELL, IF YOU COULD COMMENT ON THE REQUEST MADE BY THIS MAN.

IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO TELL US, I THINK WHAT HE DID IS HE GOT HIS EASEMENTS RECORDED PRIOR TO HIS PROJECT BEING APPROVED AND WITH HIS PROJECT NOT BEING APPROVED, WHAT WE'LL DO IS GO BACK AND RESEE VALUATE THE EASEMENTS AND I'LL GET BACK TO THE COUNCIL ON THAT DECISION.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CALL AGAIN MR. AKWASI EVANS AND MS. VERONICA HERNANDEZ. COUNCIL, THAT'S ALL THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO ON THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION GENERAL. AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO READ THE CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA. THE FIRST IS ITEM NUMBER 28 WILL BE DEFERRED UNTIL FOUR P.M.. THAT'S THE WILD HORSE PUD ITEM. SO WE'LL BE TAKING IT UP AT FOUR P.M.. AND I SUSPECT THAT THE SAME THING GOES FOR -- I SUSPECT THAT THE SAME FOR ITEM NUMBER 43. IS THAT CORRECT, MS. GLASCO? SO ITEM 28 AND 43 WILL BE DONE AT FOUR P.M. IN CON JUNCTION WITH THE ZONING CASES?

MAYOR, THAT WOULD BE 42 AND 43.

MAYOR GARCIA: 42, 43 AND 28 WILL BE CONSIDERED AT FOUR P.M. IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ZONING ITEMS. FOUR P.M. TIME CERTAIN. THE ITEM NUMBER 49, APPROVING HAS BEEN POST POSTPONED TO FEBRUARY THE 28TH, 2002. AND ITEM NUMBER 7, THE PERSONNEL MATTERS, ALSO IS POSTPONED. IT IS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM THAT WILL BE TAKEN UP ON FEBRUARY THE 28TH. I WANT TO GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THE 2:00 O'CLOCK TIME CERTAIN FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS READING OF THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. SO IF YOU COULD READ INTO THE REGARD, CITY CLERK, MS. BROWN, THE CONSENT ITEMS.

YES, SIR. WE ALSO HAVE TWO OTHER CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS. ON NUMBER 27, THAT IS ACTUALLY AN ORDINANCE INSTEAD OF A RESOLUTION.

MAYOR GARCIA: THAT IS AN ORDINANCE?

YES, SIR.

MAYOR GARCIA: SO 27 IS AN ORDINANCE.

AND ON -- WELL, 43 IS ONE OF YOUR ITEMS. WE CAN TAKE UP THAT CHANGE AT THE TIME. THE ACREAGE IS DIFFERENT ON THAT THAN WHAT IT WAS -- .

MAYOR GARCIA: CORRECT. THAT WILL BE DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE 4:00 O'CLOCK TIME CERTAIN.

THE CONSENT AGENDA AS I KNOW IT STARTING WITH ITEM 21, 26, 27, 29, 30, SECOND AND THIRD READING, 31 SECOND AND THIRD READING, 32, 33, 34, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41 IS SECOND AND THIRD READING, 44, 45.

MAYOR GARCIA: CAN YOU BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. WHICH ONE DID YOU SAY WAS SECOND AND THIRD READING?

41.

MAYOR GARCIA: THAT'S A RESOLUTION IT SAYS HERE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49 POSTPONED TO FEBRUARY 28TH. AND 50 ARE THE APPOINTMENTS.

MAYOR GARCIA: AND I GUESS WE CAN READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD. DO YOU HAVE THE LIST?

I DO.

MAYOR GARCIA: OKAY. IF YOU COULD READ THEM INTO THE RECORD.

AUSTIN COMMUNITY EDUCATION CONSORTIUM, MARIO KA STEEL MARTINEZ APPOINTMENT CONSENSUS. BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, WANDA PENN, REAPPOINTMENT CONSENSUS. BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, PHIL MONCADA APPOINTMENT CONSENSUS. CHILD CARE COUNCIL, ELIZABETH BETTIE GOTLEE. KA MEAL POWA REAPPOINTMENT CONSENSUS. DOWNTOWN COMMISSION, LINDA JOHNSON REAPPOINTMENT CONSENSUS. BOB WOODY, REAPPOINTMENT CONSENSUS. FEDERALLY QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTER BOARD, DAVID CAMPO, REAPPOINTMENT CONSENSUS. WILLIAM COOK ENDAHL, REAPPOINTMENT, CONSENSUS. JAN MAYO, REAPPOINTMENT, CONSENSUS. IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, HANK KID WELL, REAPPOINTMENT CONSENSUS. MAYOR'S COMMITTEE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, NORMA KIKI, REAPPOINTMENT. THAT'S A MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT. MEDICAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM ADVISORY BOARD, DAVID M. JACKSON, REAPPOINTMENT CONSENSUS.

MAYOR GARCIA: THE APPOINTMENT OF MR. KIK KISMT SHOULD BE A REAPPOINTMENT, IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THIS IS LISTED AND AN APPOINTMENT. WELL, WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AS AN APPOINTMENT THAT'S LISTED. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY -- DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? LET ME READ THE CONSENT AGENDA AGAIN TO THE RECORD. ITEM 21, 26, 27, 29, 30 FOR SECOND AND THIRD READING, 31 FOR SECOND AND THIRD READING, 32, 33, 34, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49 FOR A POSTPONEMENT FOR TWO WEEKS, AND 50.

MAYOR, I BELIEVE ADD ONE MORE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM 20 IS BEING POSTPONED TO FEBRUARY 28TH.

MAYOR GARCIA: SO ITEM 20 IS BEING PROPOSED FOR CONSENT FOR POSTPONEMENT TO FEBRUARY THE 28TH. WE WILL HAVE A WORK SESSION ON THAT ITEM THE DAY BEFORE, SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, THAT'S -- THAT MEETING IS ON FEBRUARY THE 27TH AT 10:00 O'CLOCK AT ONE TEXAS CENTER, THIRD FLOOR TRAINING ROOM.

MAYOR, I JUST DISCOVERED THAT THERE'S MORE APPOINTMENTS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE PAPER. IF YOU WOULD PERMIT ME TO READ THOSE IN ALSO.

MAYOR GARCIA: SORRY ABOUT THAT.

MY APOLOGY. MUSIC COMMISSION, ROGER BROWN, REAPPOINTMENT COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION, JEFFREY BECKAGE, APPOINTMENT, CONSENSUS. URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, CARL PEPPER, REAPPOINTMENT BY THE MAYOR.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU, MS. BROWN. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE -- WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON ITEM 39. MR. EDWARD SCHRADER. MR. EDWARD SCHRADER?

SLUSHER: MAYOR, DID YOU READ 21 INTO THE CONSENT?

MAYOR GARCIA: 21 IS CONSENT, YES.

SLUSHER: OKAY. WELL, I WANT TO -- .

MAYOR GARCIA: I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE YOU FOR A COMMENT ON THAT ONE. MR. SCHRADER, WELCOME, SIR.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ED SCHRADER. I'M WITH AUSTIN TRAFFIC SIGNAL. AND I'M HERE NOT TO SAY THAT I'M FOR OR AGAINST MOVTECH ON THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION. IN SIMPLE TERMS THIS IS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONTRACT THAT THEY WERE THE LOW BIDDER AT 1,221,000 DOLLARS AND WE WERE THE SECOND BIDDER AT 1.4. HOWEVER, THIS RESOLUTION WOULD INDICATE OR LEAD SOMEBODY TO THINK THAT MOVTECH AND AUSTIN TRAFFIC SIGNAL ARE GOING TO PERFORM THIS WORK TOGETHER. AND THAT IS IN FACT TOTALLY FALSE. WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF DOING ANY WORK ON THIS JOB AND WE JUST WANT THE COUNCIL TO AT LEAST CLEAR THIS UP OR CLARIFY THIS LANGUAGE BEFORE THEY APPROVE IT.

MAYOR GARCIA: STOP THE CLOAK CLOK A SECOND. ARE YOU WITH ONE OF THE COMPANIES?

YES, SIR, I'M WITH AUSTIN TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

MAYOR GARCIA: AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANY WORK?

NO.

MAYOR GARCIA: OKAY. GO AHEAD AND FINISH YOUR TESTIMONY AND I'D LIKE THE CITY MANAGER TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN.

LIKE I SAID, WE WERE THE SECOND BIDDER. I HAD ASKED THE PURCHASER ON THIS JOB, THERE WAS A SIMPLE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAID THE CITY COULD COME TO THE SECOND BIDDER IF THE -- IF THEY COULDN'T GET THE LOW BIDDER TO DO THE WORK. AND I ASKED HIM HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT? AND I COULD NEVER GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ONE. IT'S ALL SUBJECTIVE. THERE'S PERFORMANCE AND PAYMENT BONDS ON THIS JOB THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE LOW BIDDER AND THE CITY HAS THE OBLIGATION AND THE RIGHT TO EXECUTE THOSE. CALL THE BONDING COMPANY IF THE LOW BIDDER CAN'T PERFORM, BUT DON'T ASK THE SECOND BIDDER AND ASK HIM TO DO WORK THAT THE LOW BIDDER DOESN'T WANT TO DO. IT'S AN INSULT. SO I ASK THE COUNCIL NOT TO AWARD IT BASED OFF THIS -- THEY WERE THE LOW BIDDER AND THEY EARNED THAT. THAT'S FINE. AND I GUESS SECONDLY I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL OUGHT TO LOOK INTO THIS FURTHER ON FUTURE CONTRACTS WITH THAT LANGUAGE. IT APPEARS VERY MISLEADING. THANK YOU.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU VERY MAY, MR. SLOWED SLAEDER?

I CAN ONLY SURMISE WHAT THE STAFF IS TRYING TO DORKS IT'S A SERVICE AGREEMENT AND IT DEPENDS ON HOW FAST WE CAN MOVE SOME OF THE PROJECTS. HOWEVER, WE'LL HONOR -- IF THE GENTLEMAN GETS WITH THE PURCHASING OFFICE AND THE DEPARTMENT AS LETTER THAT BAEFKLY SAYS -- AUSTAN LIBRACH'S JOB THAT SAYS YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN DOING ANY WORK AND WHEN WE EXECUTE THE CONTRACT, WE WILL NOT EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH YOUR COMPANY.

NOT FOR THE 1.2 MILLION DOLLARS.

WE WILL NOT EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH YOUR COMPANY. AND WE APOLOGIZE. IF YOU TRIED TO POINT THAT OUT TO THE STAFF AND YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T INTERESTED IN DOING THAT AND THEY CONTINUED TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. I POINT IT HAD OUT AND -- .

DID YOU PUT SOMETHING IN WRITING, SIR?

NOT AFTER THE BID.

THAT'S FINE. I'LL CHECK WITH STAFF. YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T INTERESTED IN THIS AND I WANT TO TALK WITH THEM IN TERMS OF WHY THEY PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA THIS WAY. BUT WE WILL NOT CONTRACT WITH YOU.

I DID NOT TALK WITH THEM ON WHY THEY PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS WORDING YESTERDAY. SO I'M SAYING PRIOR TO THE BID AND DURING THE BID PROCESS I COULD NEVER GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER ON HOW THEY WERE GOING TO GO ABOUT DOING THAT.

I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

MAYOR GARCIA: THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ONLY A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION. SO WE'RE AUTHORIZING THE STAFF TO EXECUTE. IF YOU DON'T WANT A CONTRACT, THEY WILL NOT EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH YOU BECAUSE THEY NEED A LETTER FROM YOU SAYING THAT YOU DON'T WANT ANY OF THE WORK.

THAT'S FINE. THEY SHOULD NOT PUT -- WE DID NOT BID WITH MAFS TECH. THAT'S WHAT IT'S SAYING.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAYOR PRO TEM?

GOODMAN: MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO TALK TO EVERYBODY BEFORE WE POST. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF POSTING LANGUAGE ISSUES FOR TODAY BECAUSE SINCE THERE WASN'T DETAILED BACKUP ON THIS ONE, I ASSUMED WE WERE SPLITTING THE WORK THE WAY WE DO SOMETIMES WHEN BIDDERS ARE VERY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND THEY'RE VERY QUALIFIED AND WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAD ASSUMED AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS ACCURATE EITHER.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFESSION FUSION. WE WILL NOT CONTRACT WITH THE SECOND BIDDER AND IN THE FUTURE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE BIDDERS UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH THE AWARD ON THESE.

MAYOR GARCIA: RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER FOR A COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 21 AND ANY OTHER ITEM THAT HE WANTS TO COMMENT ON THAT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SLUSHER: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS THE RAINBOW MATERIALS CONTRACT WE POSTPONED A FEW WEEKS AGO AND HAD EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION ON IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PRACTICES OF RAINBOW AND OTHER -- POTENTIALLY OTHER DPAENS. COMPANIES. NOW, RAINBOW WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BID THAT WAS LET OUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE WERE SOME COMPLIANCE ISSUES AND SOME ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES GOING ON BOTH AT THE STATE LEVEL, THE LCRA LEVEL AND THE CITY LEVEL. AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE TODAY, AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IS TO MOVE FORWARD AND AWARD THE BID ON WHICH RAINBOW WAS THE LOW BIDDER, AND OF COURSE, AWARD IT UNDER THE TERMS OF THE BID THAT WENT OUT. I THINK IN THE FUTURE WE NEED TO HAVE THE STAFF TO.

FIRST OF ALL -- I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THIS TO THE MOTION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

MAYOR GARCIA: NOT YET, BUT LET ME GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE A SECOND?

WYNN: SECOND.

MAYOR GARCIA: SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WYNN.

SLUSHER: I WOULD ADD THAT THE STAFF RESEARCH PRACTICES OF CONCRETE COMPANIES AND DETERMINE THE BEST PRACTICES IN THE INDUSTRY ON ENVIRONMENT AND ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT THE STAFF RETURN AND BRIEF THE COUNCIL ON RECOMMENDED CRITERIA FOR NEW CONTRACTS THAT WILL INCORPORATE THE BEST PRACTICES AND THEN AFTER THE BRIEFING THAT WE ADD NEW STRONG ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA TO ALL FUTURE CONTRACTS SO WE CAN DISCUSS WHEN THOSE MEASURES ARE BROUGHT FORWARD, WHETHER THAT TAKES A VOTE OF THE COUNCIL OR WHETHER THE STAFF CAN IMPLEMENT RULES AND WE CAN DECIDE HOW TO PROCEED FROM THERE AT THE TIME OF THE BRIEFING. RAINBOW ALSO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH VERYIOUS AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE CITY, TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT THEIR HIGHWAY 71 PLANT AND TO SAY THAT THE CITY ACCEPTS THEIR REMEDIATION PLAN AND EXPECTS RAINBOW TO CARRY THIS OUT IN GOOD FAITH, ALTHOUGH THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THIS CONTRACT BID, BUT I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE RAINBOW LETTER OF FEBRUARY 12TH AND SAY WE LOOK FORWARD TO THESE MATTERS BEING COMPLETED AND IMPLEMENTED.

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, IS THAT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT?

WYNN: YES, IT IS, MAYOR.

MAYOR GARCIA: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?

GOODMAN: YES, MAYOR.

MAYOR GARCIA: MAYOR PRO TEM?

GOODMAN: SPEAKING OF LANGUAGE, THE OTHER POSTING LANGUAGE I WOULD LIKE US TO REFINE BEFORE IT'S ON THE AGENDA ON THE 28TH, NUMBER 8 IS THE ISSUE OF SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS. AND I THINK SOME PEOPLE GET A WRONG IMPRESSION BY READING THIS POSTING LANGUAGE. IT'S NOT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL DECIDE THAT THE CITY CHARTER WILL BE AMENDED, BUT THAT WE WILL CONSIDER PLACEMENT OF THAT ITEM ON THE BALLOT FOR THE VOTERS TO DECIDE. JUDGING FROM SOME OF MY E-MAIL, THERE'S CONFUSION ABOUT HOW MUCH POWER THE COUNCIL HAS, AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT ONE.

MAYOR GARCIA: WHAT ITEM NUMBER IS THAT ONE?

GOODMAN: NUMBER 20.

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SLUSHER: MAYOR? THAT REMINDS ME OF SOMETHING.

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER?

SLUSHER: LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THAT ITEM IS WORDED A LITTLE MORE BROADLY THAN THAT BECAUSE IT COULD BE THAT WE DECIDE TO PUT A MIXED SYSTEM ON THE BALLOT, AND WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE THAT PRECLUDED BY THE POSTING LANGUAGE.

BASED ON THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU ASKED FOR YESTERDAY, COUNCILMEMBER, I THINK WHAT WE'LL PROBABLY DO IS HAVE IT BROAD ENOUGH SO THAT IT IS NOT JUST ISSUES OF THE ELECTION PROCESS, BUT ALSO ANY OTHER THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL WISHES TO PLACE ON THAT BALLOT SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.

SLUSHER: OKAY. LET ME SAY THAT I WAS HOPING, CITY MANAGER, AND HE NAILED THIS DOWN YESTERDAY. I'M HOPING THAT ANY ITEM THAT ANY COUNCILMEMBERS ARE GOING TO BRING FORWARD TO BE PUT ON THE CHARTER BALLOT, THAT WE CAN HAVE PUT FORWARD IN WRITING DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THAT THEY WOULD ALL BE DISCUSSED BY THE COUNCIL AT THAT WEDNESDAY WORK SESSION WHERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY CHARTER CHANGE THAT WOULD JUST POP UP ON THE THURSDAY AGENDA AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON IT AT THAT TIME.

MAYOR GARCIA: THE POSTING OF THE FEBRUARY THE 27TH AND FEBRUARY 28TH WILL BE -- ONE WOULD BE ACTUALLY WORK SESSION, THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE FOR ACTION, BUT IT WILL BE LIKE THE COUNCILMEMBER AND THE CITY MANAGER SAID AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM ON WHETHER THE CITY COUNCIL WILL DECIDE TO PLACE ON THE BALLOT CHANGES TO THE CITY CHARTER, AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CHARTER FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE VOTERS. SO I'M SURE SOMEBODY CAN PROBABLY WORD IT BETTER THAN I STATED. MAYOR PRO TEM?

GOODMAN: ACTUALLY, MAYOR, THERE WAS ONE OTHER COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE ABOUT OUR CONSENT AGENDA. AND I'M NOT SURE -- I WANTED TO SAY IT, IT WAS ABOUT MSFS TECH ACTUALLY. SOUTH FIRST IS TORN UP A LOT THESE PAST YEARS AND RECENTLY WE'VE SEEN MSFS TECH TRUCKS OUT THERE ON A PROJECT. SO IF THEY WERE THE LAST COMPANY WHICH WE DID THE STREETS AFTER THEY TORE THEM UP TO MAKE THEM AS GOOD AS THEY WERE BEFORE THEY WERE TORN, I BELIEVE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT WE'VE SEEN DO THAT. I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THEM BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY IS A SMOOTH ROAD WHERE THEY HAD DUG UP. NOW, FOR IT'S NOT MAFS TECH, THEN I HOPE THEY WILL DO THIS. WHOEVER IT WAS.

MAYOR, IF YOU WILL PERMIT ME FOR A SECOND, ON ITEM 39, MAY MY HASTE TO MOVE ON, I WAS TOLD MY EDDIE, SHE WANTED THE COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT THE WAY THIS ITEM WAS BID WAS THAT WE WOULD BE AWARDING THE FIRST AND SECOND LOW BIDDERS, DEPENDING ON SUPPLIES THAT WERE AVAILABLE AND DEPENDING ON MATERIALS THAT WERE AVAILABLE AND THEIR ABILITY TO PERFORM THE WORK. THAT GIVES THE STAFF THE ULTIMATE FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THE STAFF MOVES AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HERE WITH THE AUSTIN TRAFFIC SIGNAL DID THIS WORK WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, BUT BASED ON HIS COMMENTS TODAY, IT MUST HAVE BEEN IN ERROR BECAUSE HE MUST HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WAS ONLY TO BE AWARDED TO THE LOW BIDDER. THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE SPECIFICATIONS WERE WRITTEN, BUT WE'LL HONOR HIS REQUEST ONCE WE GET SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM HIM WHICH SAYS HE DOES NOT WISH TO DO BUSINESS WITH RESPECT TO THE WAY THIS WAS WRITTEN. DID I GET THAT RIGHT?

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. FURTHER COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?

WYNN: MAYOR? ITEM NUMBER 48 IS ONE OF MY ITEMS FROM COUNCIL. AND I APOLOGIZE. IN OUR FORMER FORMAT IT USED TO ACTUALLY SHOW THE FEE WAIVER AMOUNT. IT'S IN THE BACKUP, BUT I DO WANT TO JUST COMMENT THAT THE FEES WAIVED ON ITEM NUMBER 48 IS 1,750 DOLLARS.

MAYOR GARCIA: 1,750 DOLLARS IS THE FISCAL NOTE ON ITEM 48 FOR FEES WAIVED. OKAY. FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? WHERE THERE IS A FISCAL NOTE, CITY MANAGER, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE IT? :.

AND THAT'S MY APOLOGY. I CAN RUDY DO ALL THE WAIVERS AND THE FEES, INCLUDING THIS ONE, SO WE WOULD SEE THE MAGNITUDE OF IT. WE WILL GET THAT MEMO TO THE COUNCIL NEXT WEEK SO YOU WILL KNOW NOT JUST WHAT THIS ONE COSTS BRKS YOU THE PAST ONES ANS HOW THEY ACCUMULATED BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT AS PART OF YOUR BUDGET. YOU BUDGET THE REVENUES, BUT THEN WE DO THE WAIVERS, SO YOU DON'T GET THE REVENUE. WE'LL SHOW THAT IN THE MEMORANDA.

MAYOR GARCIA: FURTHER COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? LET ME READ IT AGAIN FOR THE RECORD. ITEM NUMBER 19, 26, 27, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49 FOR POSTPONEMENT FOR TWO WEEKS, AND 50 WITH THE APPOINTMENTS THAT WERE READ BY MS. BROWN. AND 48, THE FISCAL NOTE FEES WAIVED IS 1,750. AND THEN ON 21 IT'S THE -- WHAT WAS READ INTO THE RECORD BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER. FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

MAYOR GARCIA: OPPOSED NO. MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO.

THAT ALSO INCLUDES 20 BEING POSTPONED TO 2-28.

MAYOR GARCIA: WHICH ONE?

MAYOR GARCIA: 20 IS POSTPONED. I'M SORRY. 20 IS POSTPONED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ON FEBRUARY 28TH.

GRIFFITH: AND MAYOR WAS 19?

IT WAS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. AL AND 21 WAS PART OF THE CONSENT?

IT WAS PART OF THE CONSENT WITH THE ITEMS THAT COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER READ INTO THE RECORD.

MAYOR GARCIA: IS THERE ANY ITEMS FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING THAT COUNCILMEMBERS WANT TO ANNOUNCE AT THIS TIME?

MAYOR, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A COUPLE THAT I'M THINKING OF, AND I NEED TO CHECK WITH TOBY. AND IF YOU'LL PERMIT ME TO SPEAK WITH HER, I'LL REPORT THAT IN JUST A SECOND.

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBERS, ANYTHING?

WYNN: I ANNOUNCED THIS LAST WEEK, BUT JUST A REMINDER. I BELIEVE ON THE 28TH I'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD SOME TYPE OF ACTION REGARDING THE FIRST T PROJECT NEXT TO THE YMCA ON ED BLUESTEIN. THEY HAVE BEEN WORK WG MY OFFICE AND THE PROJECT TEAM TO FIND OUT WHAEN VARIANCES OR APPROVALS NEED TO BE ADDED IN ORDER TO MOVE THAT PROJECT FORWARD.

MAYOR GARCIA: ANYBODY ELSE? ITEM NUMBER 18 IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE WORK SESSION OF FEBRUARY THE SIXTH, 2002 AND THE REGULAR MEETING OF FEBRUARY THE 7TH, 2002. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES. MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

MAYOR GARCIA: OPPOSED NO. MOTION CARRIES. NOW WE'LL GO TO THE 2:00 O'CLOCK TIME CERTAIN, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS' MEETING. WE'RE GOING TO RECESS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND CALL TO ORDER THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS' MEETING OF THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. AND WE HAVE THREE ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF JANUARY 10TH, 2002. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THAT? SECONDED BY THE VICE-PRESIDENT. SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER WYNN. I'M GETTING USED TO THIS. IS THERE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

MAYOR GARCIA: ITEM NO. 2 IS APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TRANSFERRINGING $275,000 IN HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM FUNDS FROM THE ACQUISITION AND GOEMENT RENTAL PROGRAM TO THE TENET BANSED RENT AT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2001-FWOU AND AMENDING THE TBRA CONTRACT TO INCREASE THE TOTAL AUTHORIZATION TO 1,376,000. AND MR. HILGERS IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTION OR OFFER EXPLANATIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST VERY BRIEFLY, GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS PAUL HILGERS AND I'M THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND I'M HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM AND THEN THE ITEM NUMBER 3. BUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, THE TRANSFERRING OF $275,000 TO THE TENT AL BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS US TRYING TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH OUR DOLLARS TO MEET THE CHANGING NEEDS OF THIS ECONOMY. WHAT THIS ACTION DOES TODAY IS IT ALLOWS US TO GUARANTEE THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF ADDITIONAL 60 FAMILIES IN TENT ANT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE. THAT HAS INCREASED AS A RESULT OF THE ECONOMY. THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN RENT SUBSIDIES HAS GONE FROM A TOTAL OF ABOUT $20,000 TO A TOTAL OF ABOUT $23,000 A MONTH. IT PROVIDES RENTAL HOUSING SUBSIDIES AND SECURITY DEPOSITS FOR ELIGIBLE FAMILIES. THE ELIGIBLE FAMILIES EARN NO MORE THAN 50% OF THE AREA MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, WHICH IS NO MORE THAN $35,000 FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR AND MOST OF THESE FAMILIES EARN MUCH, MUCH LESS THAN THAT. THIS PROGRAM IS OPERATED IN A COLLABORATIVE -- WITH A COLLABORATIVE RUN BYPASS SAGES ADMINISTERED BY THE AUSTIN HOUSING AUTHORITY. BUT IT INCLUDES A COLLABORATIVE FROM THE SALVATION ARMY, SAFE PLACE, LIFE WORKS, CARITAS, AUSTIN FAMILIES AND THE FOUNDATION FOR THE HOMELESS. SO THIS PROGRAM SERVED HOMELESS FAMILIES AND PROVIDES RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR THOSE FAMILIES FOR UP TO 24 MONTHS. THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDING THAT THIS ACTION BE TAKEN SO THAT WE CAN BE RESPONSIVE TO THIS INCREASING NEED AND BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.

MAYOR GARCIA: QUESTIONS FOR MR. HILGERS? IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 2?

GOODMAN: SO MOVE.

MAYOR GARCIA: MOTION BY VICE-PRESIDENT GOODMAN, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER ALVAREZ. FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED NO. ITEM NUMBER AHFC 3 IS TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION TO NEGOTIATE AND ACCEPT A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES OF AUSTIN, INC., A LOCAL HOUSING NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED ONE MILLION FOR THE PURPOSE OF ACTING AS THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR IN CONSTRUCTING 12 SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING UNIT IN THE ST. JOHN'S NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN -- IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN, MR. HILGERS, WHAT THE WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES OF AUSTIN IS.

WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO ACCEPT A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION CORPORATION AND NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES OF AUSTIN INCORPORATED. THE AMOUNT IS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED ONE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE PURPOSE OF AHFC ACCUSING AS THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR TO CONSTRUCT 12 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN THE ST. JOHN'S NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THIS NONPROFIT CORPORATION. ARS APPROVING THIS ACTION MEANS THAT BY SERVING AS THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR IT WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES THAT AHFC HAS ENTERED INTO THIS KIND OF A RELATIONSHIP WITH A NONPROFIT. WE ARE DOING THIS SIMILAR WORK IN THE ANDERSON HILL REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND IT ISN'T UNDER A CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP AS IT IS IN THIS CASE UNDER A NONPROFIT. UNDER THE EXISTING AGREEMENT, WHICH IS ALREADY IN PLACE, NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WILL ALSO ASSIST IN THE CAPACITY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OF NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES BY PROVIDING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO THE STAFF ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MARKETING THE HOMES AND DETERMINING THE ELIGIBILITY OF THE HOME BUYERS. THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT HAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED THIS COORDINATED EFFORT. IN ADDITION, THOSE 12 HOMES WILL ON OF COURSE ALL MEET THE CITY'S SMART HOUSING STANDARDS. THIS PROJECT ALLOWS US TO COMPLETE -- TO REALLY CLOSE OUT A PREVIOUSLY EXISTING HOME 3 CONTRACT ON THIS ORGANIZATION, WHICH BUILT AND CONSTRUCTED SOME HOMES IN THE ST. JOHN'S AIR ALREADY. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR SOME TIME WITH THIS BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO COME UP WITH THIS PARTNERSHIP ARRANGEMENT AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD AND DEVELOP MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE FUTURE ON THIS AREA. AS WE SAID HERE, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, AN EXPANDED CAPACITY FOR ANOTHER NONPROFIT HOUSING PROVIDER AND ORGANIZATION IN THIS CITY IS ONE OF ITS GOALS. THE NHS BOARD HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY TO PROTECT ITS OWN INTEREST AND TO DEVELOP ITS EXPERTISE, AND IT HAS ALSO HIRED A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, DIANA LEWIS, WHO IS HERSELF A SUCCESS STORY IN HER OWN RIGHT AND ONE THAT YOU FRANKLY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH AS A COUNCIL. SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LGJ SCHOOL OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS IN WHICH WE CONTRACTED WITH THEM TO DO A POLICY RESEARCH PROJECT TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN AUSTIN. DIANA LEWIS SERVED AS THE FIRST POLICY RESEARCH PROJECT IN THAT EFFORT. OUR EFFORT THERE WAS TO DO EXACTLY WHAT DIANA IS DOING, WHICH IS TO STAY IN AUSTIN AND BECOME INVOLVED PROFESSIONALLY IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AREA IN AUSTIN. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE HER TO YOU SO SHE CAN INTRODUCE TO YOU THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHO ARE HERE, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FROM NHS, INC.. SO DIANE?

THANK YOU, PAUL. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE AND ONLY A LITTLE BIT EMBARRASSED BY THAT INTRODUCTION. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES OF AUSTIN. AND FIRST OF ALL, I I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW HONORED I AM TO BE PART OF NHS'S EFFORT AND TO WORK WITH AHFC ON THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR. AS PAUL MENTIONED, IT'S REALLY NOT POSSIBLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS PARTNERSHIP WITHOUT RECOGNIZING THOSE WHO WORKED SO HARD TO SEE IT HAPPEN. IN ADDITION TO PAUL AND THE STAFF AND THE CITY AT AHFC, I NEED TO MENTION THE INCREDIBLE WORK OF OUR VERY COMMITTED BOARD OF DIRECTORS, PATRICIA CALHOUN, BOOKER EWBANKS AND MR. EMMITT HAYS, WHO IS HERE TODAY. PLEASE STAND, EMMITT. THANK YOU. FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE TO THE BOARD HOW COMMITTED WE ARE NOT ONLY TO THIS PROJECT, BUT TO DEVELOPING OUR CAPACITY AND EXPERIENCE AS AN ORGANIZATION THAT CAN MAKE SIGNIFICANT AND SUSTAINED IMPACT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY IN AUSTIN. TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 12 HOUSES, AND THAT IS VERY EXCITING. BUT IT'S OUR HOPE AND INTENT THAT THIS WILL BE ONE OF MANY FUTURE PROJECTS AND A SMALL PART OF THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYOR GARCIA: WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, MR. GUS PENA. AND MR. PENA, I DID NOT RECOGNIZE YOU ON ITEM NO. 2. I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE YOU FOR SIX MINUTES FOR TWO AND THREE. AND IF YOU REGISTERED IN FAVOR OF ITEM NO. 2, SO IF YOU WANT US TO RESENIOR CONSIDER, WE'LL DO THAT, OTHERWISE -- .

NO, IT WILL JUST TAKE ABOUT TWO MINUTES. BASICALLY WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THESE ITEMS. AND I THINK IT COULDN'T HAPPEN AT A BETTER TIME BECAUSE WE SEE A LOT OF HOMELESS FAMILIES OUT THERE AND PEOPLE THAT NEED ASSISTANCE FOR SUBSIDIES TO GO TO RENTAL ASSISTANCE. AND I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS DO HAVE THE REQUIREMENT, AND I GUARANTEE YOU ONE THING, SOME OF THE HOMELESS FAMILIES WILL NOT MEET THESE REQUISITESES, BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE BY THE CITY. MAN, IT COULDN'T HAPPEN AT A BETTER TIME, BUT REMEMBER THOSE CRITERIA THAT SOME PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FIT UNDER, SO WE STILL NEED SOME ASSISTANCE FOR OTHER HOMELESS FAMILIES OUT THERE, BUT I DO THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR THIS BECAUSE IT IS VERY WELL RIGHT ON TARGET, AND ESPECIALLY BUILDING UNITS, NOT JUST IN SAINT JOHN OOOHH I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM SINCE 1983 ON A LOT OF THINGS, BUT ALL OF AUSTIN NEEDS A LOT OF HOUSING OUT THERE. AND I JUST WANTED TO REMIND, MR. HILGERS AND I SPOKE ABOUT SOME OF THESE CRITERIA SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS IS HAVE THAT AGAIN, AND I WILL REITERATE AND REALLY BE SPECIFIC ABOUT -- EXCUSE ME, THAT SOME HOMELESS FAMILIES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE -- TO BE HELPED UNDER THIS SYSTEM. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS UP. IT'S RIGHT ON TIME, RIGHT ON TARGET, AND WE'RE SUPPORTIVE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU, MR. PENA. COUNCIL, IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER AHFC -- .

GRIFFITH: COULD I ASK ONE QUICK QUESTION AND THEN A MOTION? HOW MUCH WILL THESE HOUSES SELL FOR. THERE'S 12 OF THEM?

YES, MA'AM. THE CONTRACT STATES THEY WILL NOT SELL FOR ANY MORE THAN 95,000 PER HOUSE. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE PROVISION THAT IN IN FACT THEY APPRAISE FOR MORE THAN THAT THAT THERE WOULD BE A FINANCING MECHANISM SO THAT WON'T COST THE FAMILY ANY MORE THAN 95,000. THERE MIGHT BE A SOFT SECOND LIEN OR SOME DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE IN SOME FASHION.

GRIFFITH: SO THE RANGE WILL BE BETWEEN WHAT AND 95?

TWOEBL BETWEEN 90 AND 100,000 DOLLARS IS WHAT I WOULD GUESS AND MAYBE UP TO AS MUCH AS 120,000. DEPENDING ON THE FINAL FLOOR PLANS THAT WE AGREED TO. WHAT WE'RE FINDING TODAY WITH THE INTEREST RATES, ONE INTEREST THING THAT WE HAVE GOING IS INTEREST RATES ARE SO LOW THAT WE'RE QUALIFYING FAMILIES AT A MUCH LOWER MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME THAN WE COULD TWO YEARS AGO IN HOUSES THAT COST ABOUT 95 TO 105,000 DOLLARS. WE'RE GETTING FAMILIES AT 60 AND 70 AND OUR LOWEST, OF COURSE, WAS 49% OF MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME ACTUALLY HAD A GOOD ENOUGH CREDIT RATING TO ACTUALLY GET INTO A HOME. SO THERE'S REALLY A GOOD THING.

GRIFFITH: THANK YOU. I MOVE APPROVAL.

MAYOR GARCIA: MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER GRIFFITH, SECKED BY THE VICE-PRESIDENT. DISCUSSION?

THOMAS: ONE QUESTION.

MAYOR GARCIA: BOARD MEMBER THOMAS. SORRY ABOUT THAT?

THOMAS: THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE AVERAGE HOUSE?

ABOUT 1250 SQUARE FEET WHEN WE FINALIZE THE NUMBERS, BUT RIGHT AROUND 1200 SQUARE FEET WOULD BE AN AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE. SIMILAR TO IN SOME CASES SOME OF THE SAME HOMES THAT YOU'VE SEEN THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION CORPORATION BUILD, SOME OF THOSE SAME UNITS WESTBOUND THE ONES WE'RE TALKING WOULD BE THE ONES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

MAYOR GARCIA: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES. THAT'S ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON THE MEETING OF THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. MEETING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. I'LL ENTERTAIN ON MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER SLUSHER, SECONDED BY VICE-PRESIDENT GOODMAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

MAYOR GARCIA: OPPOSED, NO? MOTION CARRIES WITH BOARD MEMBER WYNN TEMPORARILY ABSENT. WE NOW TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 19, WHICH IS APPROVE A RESOLUTION LUTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO TAKE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO REALLOCATE REMAINING FUND PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED BY THE LOCAL MATCH FOR THE CONGRESS AVENUE BRIDGE IMPROVEMENT T.E.A. PROJECT -- 23-21 PROJECT. AND I'LL ANNOUNCE -- TWAE-21 PROJECT. AND I'LL ANNOUNCE AT THIS TIME THAT ON ADVICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL I WILL RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS. I WILL NOT TAKE PART IN MY DISCUSSION AND I WILL NOT VOTE ON THIS. AND THERE ARE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND I WILL PASS THE CARDS TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM, WHO WILL -- SO -- I FORGOT TO SAY THAT I WAS RECONVENING THE MEETING OF THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL, WHICH WE WILL DO AT THIS TIME.

GOODMAN: THANKS, MAYOR. LET ME ASK COUNCILMEMBER WYNN IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT OR DO A BRIEF PRESENTATION BEFORE WE GO TO SPEAKERS? ON ITEM NUMBER 19.

WYNN: YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. WELL, I KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE WERE GIVEN THE INITIAL BRD PROPOSAL, AND I BELIEVE JIM WALKER HAS A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. MR. WALKER?

ANYBODY MIND IF I BORROW THEIR PROJECTOR HERE? IF YOU GIVE ME ONE SECOND HERE.

WE ONLY CHARGE $100 A MINUTE. RUDY, DO YOU KNOW HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK?

MY BUDGET WASN'T BIG ENOUGH FOR A LAPTOP, I JUST HAVE A CD. YOU SHOULD HAVE THE PROCESS DOCUMENTS IN FRONT OF YOU. IT'S ABOUT A 15-PAGE -- HERE IT COMES. IT'S ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED ABOUT WHAT THE PROCESS WE WOULD GO THROUGH FOR A CENTRAL VISIONING PROJECT. THAT WAS DONE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO NOW IS USE THAT AND GO TO ACTUALLY STARTING THE PLANNING PROJECT. WE HAVE THE INITIAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WHO I THINK AS YOU SAY, I WANT TO EXTRACT THE INITIALS ON THAT. YOU SHOULD HAVE ALSO RECEIVED AN ESTIMATED LINE ITEM BUDGET FOR YOUR REQUESTS LAST WEEK. WE DID MEET WITH MEMBERS OF THE BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN COMMUNITY ON TUESDAY NIGHT AT THE FILLING STATION. THAT WENT REALLY WELL. I THINK THE HIGHLIGHT OF THAT IS THAT EVERYBODY AGREES THAT REGIONAL VISIONING PROJECTS ARE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO, EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THAT. EVERYBODY ALSO AGREES THAT BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES ARE NEEDED IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. SO EVERYBODY AGREED IT'S A CATCH 22 ABOUT GETTING THESE KIND OF THINGS STARTED. AND TRULY THE MONEY NEEDS TO COME FROM ANY KIND OF REGIONAL PROJECT FROM ABROAD THROUGHOUT THE REGION, FROM A BROAD NUMBER OF POTS TO LOOK AT THE EQUITY. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING MY OWN LAPTOP FOR THAT. I'VE PULLED TOGETHER A POWER POINT DEAL THAT I CAN GO THROUGH IF COUNCIL WANTS TO DO THAT, KIND OF COVER MY OWN SLIDES AS WELL AS PICKED FROM SOME OF THE SLIDES THAT WERE PREPARED DURING THE PREPARATION OF THAT PROCESS SUMMARY. I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO DO.

GOODMAN: I THINK THAT'S COUNCILMEMBER WYNN'S CALL, SO WE MAY NOT -- WE MAY NOT NEED TO DO A TIMER IF YOU ALL HAVE THIS WORKED OUT ALREADY.

[INAUDIBLE].

WYNN: I THINK JUST A BRIEF PRESENTATION FROM MS. WALKER WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE AUDIENCE HERE AND AT HOME.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I MIGHT COULD GET INTO AS THIS IS WARMING UP?

WYNN: I THINK YOU'VE GIVEN US THE PROCESS DOCUMENTS AND WE'VE SEEN THE INITIAL BOARD OF THE REGIONAL VISIONING PROJECT. I WILL SAY, LISTED ON THE PROPOSED -- OR THE INITIAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS, INCLUDING THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, I'M SHOWN AS A PROPOSED MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. I THINK IT'S WHOLLY APPROPRIATE THAT AS -- POTENTIALLY AS A POTENTIAL FUNDING PARTNER, WE COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNCIL SHOULD GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE WHO SHOULD REPRESENT THE CITY ON THAT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. I WAS ACTUALLY ASKED TO DO THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS COUNCIL AT SOME POINT, LIKE WHO SITS ON CAMPO AND WHO IS ON CAP CO-, ETCETERA. I WOULD DIFFER THAT DECISION ON THIS BODY AT A LATER DATE.

GOODMAN: THANK YOU.

THE INITIAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WE TRIED VERY HARD TO BALANCE THAT IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT. AND THAT IS GOING OUT THIS WEEK, WE'LL START TO GET FEEDBACK ON THAT IMMEDIATELY. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY.

GOODMAN: LET ME ASK MR. WALKER. I KNOW YOU WEAR MANY HATS. DOES AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS COUNCIL HAVE A THOUGHT ABOUT THIS?

PART OF THE ROOT KIND OF IMPETUS FOR THIS, FROM MY MIND AND FROM -- IS THAT INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS COME UP, WHETHER IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHETHER IT'S BIG LOT DEVELOPMENT. QUITE OFTEN WE HEAR HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO THE BIGGER PICTURE? HOW ARE OTHER CITIES AROUND TRYING TO DEAL WITH THIS AND WHY SHOULD WE BE BEARING THE BURDEN? SO PART OF THAT PERSPECTIVE IS A CALL FOR THE REGIONAL PLANNING OR REGIONAL VISIONING PROJECT IS TO HELP UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT IN WHICH ALL THESE INDIVIDUAL CASES OF MANAGING GROWTH FIT. SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON ANYTHING, THERE'S NOTHING REALLY TO VOTE ON NECESSARILY, BUT CERTAINLY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET STARTED ON THIS KIND OF THING. SO THAT WOULD BE MY ANSWER TO THAT.

GOODMAN: I WAS JUST THINKING AS SORT OF A POLICY APPROACH THEY MIGHT HAVE AN INTEREST.

ABSOLUTELY. ANY BETTER SENSE OF THE REGION. AND CERTAINLY THE SAN MARCOS COALITION OF NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE INTERESTED, NEIGHBORHOODS UP IN ROUND ROCK AND GEORGETOWN THAT ARE GETTING ORGANIZED WILL BE INTERESTED. WE ALL HAVE A SIMILAR STAKE IN PROTECTING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE MOVED. AND CERTAINLY THEY WANTED -- SOME OF THE SLIDES ARE ABOUT THE IMPETUS FOR ACTION HERE IS COMING FROM ALMOST EVERY CORNER OF THE REGION, INCLUDING THE BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN COMMUNITY, THE REGIONAL BICYCLE PLAN WHICH THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON WOULD FIT IN WITH EVERYTHING EVERYBODY IS WORKING ON SO IT ALL FITS. THE THINGS THAT ARE INTERCONNECTED TO SOLVING THE PROBLEMS ARE GOING TO TAKE MORE COMPLEX THINKING AND I THINK IT'S COMING FROM A LOT OF CORNERS,. THE EDWARDS AQUIFER CONSERVATION DISTRICT ARE CALLING FOR THOSE THINGS AS WELL. DON'T JUDGE ME BY THE QUALITY OF MY PREPARATION.

GOODMAN: WELL, WE'LL WAIT AND SEE.

WYNN: MAYOR PRO TEM, I THINK THERE ARE SOME OTHER SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP, SO IT MIGHT BE WHILE WE ARE DELAYED, THE OTHER -- .

GOODMAN: YEAH. I WAS HOPING THAT THEY COULD SPEAK AFTER THE PRESENTATION: YOU'RE OKAY.

THIS IS KIND OF WHAT I JUST WENT OVER A LITTLE BIT HERE. THE IMPETUS FOR ACTION. AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS GOING TO DISAGREE THAT WE NEED SOME KIND OF REGIONAL PLAN AND REGIONAL VISIONING. I THINK THAT THE DIFFICULTY COMES WITH HOW DO YOU GET ITED, WHO GETS IT STARTED, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO KNOW GOING IN? KIND OF BALANCED OUT WITH THE NEED TO GET STARTED, TO GET GOING. THESE ARE SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE CAME UP WITH. AND THESE AREN'T NEW EITHER. GREATER AUSTIN CORRIDOR COUNCIL TALKED ABOUT REGIONAL PLANNING AND THEY'RE DOING REGIONAL PLANNING WITH THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE. THE CAMPO REVIEW TALKED ABOUT THE REGIONAL PLANNING. I'M GOING TO TRY NOT TO TAKE TOO LONG ON THIS. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT AGAIN WE WERE LOOKING AT TO WHAT WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL A HIGH, HIGH DEGREE OF PUBLIC VOOCHLT IS REALLY THE BASIS FOR THIS. THE HE HE VOOCHLT IS REALLY THE BASIS FOR THCHLT THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO OUT WEIGH THE SPECIAL INTEREST INVOLVEMENT AND UNDERMINING OF A PLAN IS COUP TO THIS. THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD HAVE FROM ALL ACROSS THE REGION AND NOT JUST AUSTIN. WE HAVE ALREADY -- WE HAVE A PREFERRED CONTRACTOR, AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU ALL HAVE SOME DOCUMENTATION RECOMMENDING THE CONTRACTOR. THESE ARE SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE WENT THROUGH TO -- I'M NOT GOING -- YOU ALL CAN READ AS WELL. I'M NOT GOING TO WALK THROUGH THESE. WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE, ADDITIONAL CRITERIA. THE ABILITY TO EXTRACT AND MANAGE OTHER RESOURS, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH ALL THE EXISTING PLANS THAT ARE SITTING ON ALL OUR SHELVES BACK IN OUR OFFICES. A PLANNING PROCESS TO USURP OR REPLACE ANY OF THE EXISTING PLANS YOU PEOPLE HAVE. THE SCENARIO MODELING AND THE ANALYTIC CAPABILITY ARE ALSO KEY TO THIS. THE DATA IS TRANSPARENT, THE ASSUMPTIONS WE'RE GOING INTO ARE DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT AND THE SCENARIOS WE MODEL ARE BASED ON WHAT CENTRAL TEXANS FEEL IS KEY. THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED ABOUT WHY WE WENT WITH THE CONTRACTOR. AGAIN, STATE-OF-THE-ART AND OTHER ANALYTIC MODELINGS TOOLS WERE A BIG PART OF THAT AND THEIR COMPETENCE ACTIVE APPROACH THAT THERE ARE CONNECTIONS TO THE TRANSPORTATION, WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT. AND USING THAT AS A BASIS FOR THE REGIONAL PLANNING VISIONING PROCESSES. GO AHEAD. BACK IN LATE LAST YEAR, WE -- IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER THE PROCESS SUMMARY, WE CONDUCTED IN STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS. THESE ARE AREAS OF AGREEMENT. I DON'T THINK ANY OF THESE ARE GOING TO SURPRISE ANYBODY EITHER. WATER QUALITY ARE BECOMING IMPORTANT, WE KNOW THAT. THE NEXT ONE IS ACTUALLY MORE INTERESTING. THESE ARE ALSO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO -- THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET OVER IS THE AREAS OF DISAGREEMENT. THE FACT THAT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND DIFFERENT CITIES HAVE SIMILAR AREAS OF DISAGREEMENT IS -- PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY, PROVIDES A CHALLENGE TO OVERCOME. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT REGIONAL AT AUSTIN, THE ROLE OF AUSTIN VERSUS THE REST OF THE REGION IS A KEY POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY A LOT OF PEOPLE. WE WILL GET -- WE HAVE TO GET REGIONAL BUY-IN FROM OTHER PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THE FIVE COUNTIES OR THIS IS GOING TO FALL APART. SO THAT'S A KEY PART. AND THEN SETTLING ON SOME DATA FOR LOOKING AT RATES OF GROWTH, PREFERRED MESSAGE OF MANAGEMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS IS TO TRY TO SETTLE THESE AREAS OF DISAGREEMENT. INITIAL BOARD COMPETITION, YOU HAVE IT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU. AGAIN, WE TRIED TO GET THESE BALANCED, WE WILL BEGIN TIN TO TRY TO GET BALANCED, WE WILL TRY TO GET PEOPLE FOR THAT. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PAPERWORK IN PERFORMING THE NONPROFITS THAT WILL MANAGE IT. YOU ALSO HAVE I THINK BEFORE YOU TODAY LOOKING AT AN INTERLOCAL THAT WE WOULD HAVE WITH CAPCO, WHICH IS THE COUNCIL WE HAVE FOR THE EXISTING REGIONAL ENTITY, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT PARTNERSHIP. NOW, THESE -- GO AHEAD. I PICKED THESE UP FROM, AGAIN, SOME OF THE SLIDES THAT WERE USED TO DEVELOP THIS, NOT UNDER CONTRACT RIGHT NOW. THIS IS ALL KIND OF OLD STUFF. SO HANG WITH ME. WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE QUICKLY. GO AHEAD. THE ANALYSIS AND MODELING IS A VERY KEY PART. GO AHEAD. IS IT NOT GOING? GO. ONE OF THE MAIN PARTS ABOUT THE ANALYSIS WOULD BE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A BASE CASE, WHICH IS HOW -- WHAT OUR CURRENT PATTERNS OF GROWTH ARE RIGHT NOW. IF WE CONTINUED DOWN THAT PATH, WHAT WOULD THINGS LOOK LIKE AND WHAT DO PEOPLE THINK? AND THEN THAT KIND OF LEADS YOU INTO THE SCENARIO DEVELOPMENT. THE ESTABLISHING OF VALUES OF THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA IS GOING TO BE A KEY PART OF THAT. WHAT ARE THE IMPORTANT THINGS. IS CRIME THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF MANAGING GROWTH, PROTECTING THE OAK TREES, WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART? YOU CAN LEAVE THERE AND AND I'LL GO THROUGH. THE REGIONAL WORKSHOP WHERE A LOT OF THE HONEST TO GOD WORK HAPPENS AND THAT'S GETTING OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES. NOT THE 100 BOARD MEMBERS SITTING AROUND DECIDING HOW TO INTERPRET THE COMMUNITY'S VALUES AND WHAT KINDS OF PLANS LOOK LIKE. GETS GETTING OUT TO PEOPLE, THE VERY CONSTITUENT GROUPS AND HAVING THEM INTERACT WITH MAP IN A GAMING LIKE ENVIRONMENT TO COME UP WITH THOSE. THE WORKSHOPS ARE REALLY THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF IT. IT WILL TAKE LONGER THAN THAT TO ACTUALLY DO. JUST GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT ONE UP RIGHT THERE. IT'S AMAZING. I CAN ACTUALLY CLICK ON THAT. THE PART OF THE ANALYSIS THAT.... THAT -- IT'S A PROCESS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME UP WITH THE SCENARIOS AND THEN THE BOARD DECIDES WHICH OF THE SCENARIOS TO PUT OUT THERE AND TO TRY TO GET EVERYBODY TO AGREE TO IMPLEMENT. GO AHEAD. THERE'S AN PROCESS OF FIGURING OUT HOW HOW I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO TURN THE ANIMATION OFF. EVALUATING LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. DO YOU CON STRAIN THE ENTIRE CONTRIBUTING ZONE AND JUST TAKE THAT OUT OF THE PRODUCTION AND LOOK AT THAT ONE SCENARIO TO LOOK AT? AND WHAT ARE THE TRANSPORTATION? WHAT IS THAT EFFECT ON TRANSPORTATION? ON LAND USE? GO AHEAD AND GET THROUGH THIS. OKAY. GO AHEAD. AND THEN WE -- THEN WE START WORKING WITH THE STAFF AND THE PLANNING STAFF FOR THE VARIOUS CITIES AND COUNTIES AROUND THE REGION. THE ONES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT ARE GOING TO BE A KEY PART OF IT, WHICH IS THIS KIND OF WORK. GO AHEAD. AND BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY WITH THE WORKSHOPS AND A HUGE CAMPAIGN AT THE END TO VOTE ON PREFERRED GROWTH SCENARIOS. IN UTAH, IN ENVISION IS UTAH WHEN THEY DID THEIR PROJECT THERE, 17,000 PEOPLE PREJUDICED AN OPINION ABOUT A PREFERRED -- ONE OF FOUR PREFERRED GROWTH SCENARIOS. THAT'S THE LEVEL THAT WE'RE KIND OF -- WE'RE LOOKING FOR. THIS IS THE BALANCE THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT. GO AHEAD. AND THAT'S A THIRD TO ALMOST A QUARTER OF THE ENTIRE BUDGET. IT WILL PROBABLY BE ALMOST HALF. AND THEN YOU COME OUT WITH GOALS AND STRATEGIES. AND THEN YOU -- WE WORK ON THE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES. SO ALONG WITH A NUTSHELL, THAT'S -- THERE'S THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE WANTING TO GET STARTED WITH YOUR HELP. DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS?

GOODMAN: THANK YOU, MR. WALKER. ARE THERE QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?

[ONE MOMENT, PLEASE, WHILE CAPTIONERS CHANGE]

COUNCIL PROPER TEM GOODMAN AND COUNCILMEMBERS, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT. NOTE ON MY CARD THAT I AM AGAINST THIS ITEM. ACTUALLY I'M FOR A REGIONAL VISIONING PROJECT AND JUST SIMPLY NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE SOURCE OF FUNDING AS IT'S -- IT'S BEEN PROPOSED. WE WILL PROBABLY HEAR SOMETHING LATER FROM -- FROM OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS ON THIS. I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU ALL THAT -- THAT AT LAST MAY'S DISCUSSION REGARDING DISBURSEMENT OF THE CAPITAL METRO MONEY, THERE WAS A LARGE CHUNK OF MONEY THAT BECAUSE OF -- OF STAFF DISAGREEMENTS THAT WAS GOING TO GO TO THE LAMAR BICYCLE/PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE PROJECT IT DID NOT. PART OF THAT MONEY WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THIS CONGRESS AVENUE BRIDGE PROJECT WHERE -- WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS $925,000 COMING FROM. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT -- THAT THAT PROJECT IS STILL IN NEED OF BEING FUNDED AND COMPLETED AND LIKE -- WISH YOU ALL LUCK IN MAKING THESE DECISIONS AND CONTINUED SUPPORT OF BIKE PEDESTRIAN PROJECTS IN THE AUSTIN AREA. THANK YOU.

GOODMAN: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM GOODMAN AND COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS TOMMY EDEN, I'M HERE TO SAY MORE OR LESS WHAT ERIC ANDERSON JUST SAID. I DO SUPPORT REGIONAL VISIONING. I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PROCESS THAT THIS ENTIRE REGION NEEDS TO GO THROUGH. I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THIS. I -- WE HAD A MEETING WITH -- WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE FROM THE BICYCLING COMMUNITY, ALONG WITH JIM WALKER AND BEVERLY SILAS THE OTHER NIGHT TO DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF POSITIONING WE WANTED TO TAKE. AND WE ALL AGREED THAT REGIONAL VISIONING WAS SOMETHING VERY WORTHWHILE. WE ALSO WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE USE OF BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN -- MONEY THAT HAS BEEN SET ASIDE FOR BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PROJECTS OUT OF THE CAPITAL METRO QUARTER CENT THAT IS BEING RETURNED TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 15% OF THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PROJECTS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT -- THAT YOU ALL AGREED TO AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT -- THAT YOU DON'T TAKE A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF THE MONEY THAT IS NEEDED FOR BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLANNING TO PUT INTO OTHER PROJECTS. THANK YOU.

GOODMAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. STALLINGS.

MAYOR PRO TEM, COUNCILMEMBERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING US SO MUCH CONSIDERATION AND IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THE -- FROM CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH SOME OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS, THAT EVERYONE REMAINS COMMITTED TO THE 15% OF NEW TRANSPORTATION SPENDING THAT Y'ALL HAVE PRETTY MUCH ALL OF YOU HAVE -- HAVE STOOD BEHIND, ALONG WITH CAMPO. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THIS. WE BELIEVE, IN TALKING ABOUT THE MEETING THAT WE HAD REPRESENTING THE LEADERS OF QUITE A FEW OF THE AUSTIN CYCLING ORGANIZATIONS, THERE ARE 17 BICYCLE ORGANIZATIONS IN AUSTIN. JUST TO REMINDS WHY YOU DON'T HAVE ONE PERSON SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY. BUT IN THIS RARE INSTANCE, WE WERE ALL IN COMPLETE CONSENSUS THAT REGIONAL VISIONING IS VERY GOOD, WE BELIEVE THAT REAGAN IS PROBABLY EXACT THE PERSON TO CARRY THIS OUT. WE FELT LIKE IT WAS A LITTLE LIGHT ON BICYCLE, PEDESTRIAN STUFF UP FRONT AND MAKING IT CLEAR, SO THAT IT WOULD INCREASE OUR COMFORT LEVEL WITH ANY OF THE FUNDING COMING FROM BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN SOURCE. AFTER SPEAKING WITH REAGAN EASY AND BEVERLY SILAS AND JIM WALKER, I THINK WE ALL GOT MORE COMFORTABLE THAT THERE WAS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A BIKE PEDESTRIAN TRAIL ELEMENT. WE WANT TO SEE THAT STUFF IN WRITING, SO IT'S -- IT'S CONSTANTLY REAFFIRMED. BUT IN THAT EVENT, WE WOULDN'T OBJECT TO AN APPROPRIATE PROPORTION OF THAT MONEY, THEY ARE ASKING NOW FOR 925,000, THEY HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN 500,000, THEY HAVE A GOAL OF ABOUT 2 MILLION. WHILE THERE'S BIGGER ISSUES ABOUT -- YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS AND WHO SHOULD PAY THEIR SHARE, ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF, IT'S JUST AS INAPPROPRIATE TO TAKE $925,000 OUT OF A BICYCLE POT AS IT WOULD BE OUT OF LOW INCOME HOUSING OR OUT OF BRACKENRIDGE OR SOME OTHER PLACE THAT'S -- OR EVEN EARMARKED, IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT. HOWEVER, GIVEN THAT, IF IT WAS CLEAR, IN THE FUTURE, THAT -- THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A COMMITMENT TO BIKE PEDESTRIAN AND TRAILS AS PART OF THIS OVERALL LAND USE PLANNING, ROAD PLANNING, RAIL PLANNING, THAT -- AND NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING, THAT IF -- IF IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THERE WAS GOING TO BE ANY MORE THAN 5% DEVOTED TO BICYCLE AND TRAIL STUFF AND GIVEN THAT WE WOULD NOT OBJECT TO UP TO $100,000, BUT OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO FIND OUT WHAT THE REAL FINAL TOTAL BUDGET WOULD BE, WAIT UNTIL WE FIND OUT HOW THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS WEIGH IN, AND SO THAT WE CAN GIVE 5% OF THAT TOTAL, WHATEVER THAT TURNS OUT TO BE. I KNOW AS AN ENTREPRENEUR, I HAVE BEEN A BUSINESS GUY FOR TWO DECADES, I KNOW THAT INITIALLY MY PLANNED AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT I WANT TO START AN ENTERPRISE WITH ISN'T WHAT I END UP WITH. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T EXCEED THAT TOO MUCH. BUT -- BUT GENERALLY, I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE GREAT OBJECTION TO -- [BUZZER SOUNDING] -- ALL OF THE MONEY COMING RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOODMAN: THANK YOU. THOSE ARE ALL OF THE SPEAKERS THAT I HAVE, IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK AND DIDN'T SIGN A CARD, TELL ME NOW. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

WYNN: THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. I'M JUST -- JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. ONE IS THERE'S BEEN SOME -- SOME PERCEPTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE TECHNICAL POT OF FUNDS THIS IS COMING FROM AND THE DISCUSSION ABOUT -- ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR CONGRESS AVENUE BRIDGE PROJECT AS IT RELATES TO THE PFLUGERVILLE BRIDGE PROJECT AND OTHER NEEDED PEDESTRIAN BIKE IMPROVEMENTS AROUND TOWN. BACK LAST APRIL WHEN -- WHEN WE AS A COUNCIL VOTED ON THE ALLOCATION OF THE CAPITAL METRO FUNDS FOR -- FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, THIS COUNCIL SUPPORTED ME AT THE 11TH HOUR, FLANKLY, IN -- FRANKLY IN INCREASING THE FUNDS ON BOTH THE BOGGY CREEK PROJECT AND THE CONGRESS AVENUE BRIDGE PROJECT FROM $400,000 TO ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS. WHAT THAT DID WAS -- WAS EQUATE -- EQUATE THOSE TWO PROJECTS EQUALLY TO THE -- TO THE WALNUT CREEK PROJECT THAT WE WERE PROMOTING TO THE TEXDOT -- TO THE T21 PROJECT. IN ADDITION TO THE 15% THAT WE STOOD BY ON THE ALLOCATION OF THE CAPITAL METRO FUNDS LAST YEAR, YOU ALL SUPPORTED ME IN THAT ADDITIONAL $1.2 MILLION IN -- IN -- IN VERY DISTINCT PROJECTS THAT -- THAT WE ALL SUPPORTED. WHEN -- WHEN THE REGIONAL VISIONING TEAM STARTED TO TALK ABOUT THE NEED TO GET STARTED AND THE FUNDING AND TRYING TO LOOK AT THE PROPORTION I CAN'T.......................ORTIONATE LIKELY FUNDING SOURCES REQUESTED ACROSS THE REGION, A BIG ELEMENT OF THIS WAS THE TIMING OF THE CASH FLOW. FRANKLY, CAPITAL METRO AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN, I THINK, ARE THE ONLY TWO ENTITIES IN THE REGION THAT HAVE THE ABILITY, AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, TO HAVE A REALLOCATION OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET OF ANY SIGNIFICANT MAGNITUDE THAT COULD KEEP THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. THE -- AS AN EXAMPLE, THE $900,000 THAT WAS SET ASIDE, AGENTS MORE THAN -- A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT, WHEN THE CONGRESS AVENUE BRIDGE MATCHED TO THE T.E.A. 21 PROJECT, THAT PROJECT WASN'T CHOSEN. FOR US NOW TO REALLOCATE THAT IS, IS A PROCESS WE ARE TRYING TO GO THROUGH NOW. WE STILL NEED TO GET CAPITAL METRO BOARD APPROVAL FOR THAT REALLOCATION. EVEN IF WE DECIDE TO USE THOSE FUNDS FOR -- FOR ANY NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS, SAY, SOME BIKE-PED PROJECTS, MY STRONG....... SUSPICION IS WE WOULDN'T START ON THOSE PROJECTS FOR NINE TO 12 MONTHS REALISTICALLY, BY THE TIME WE HAVE THE PLANS DONE, BY THE TIME WE CHOOSE THE CRARKT TEXT AND -- ARCHITECT AND GO THROUGH A BID PROCESS, ET CETERA. THE ABILITY THAT WE HAVE FOR THESE FUNDS THAT ARE SET ASIDE FOR TRANSPORTATION, NOT LIKE WE ARE GOING TO REALLOCATE THESE FUNDS TO SOME OF OUR HOUSING PROJECTS, IS THAT THESE ARE FUNDS THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE SPENT ON ANY TRANSPORTATION PROJECT IN THE -- IN THE SHORT TERM. IN THE NEXT 6, 9, 12, 15 MONTHS LIKELY. FRANKLY WE WILL BE DOING GOOD TO SPEND 18 MONTHS ON A DIFFERENT PROJECT, MAYBE EVEN THE CONGRESS AVENUE BRIDGE PHASE PROJECT, AS AN EXAMPLE. THIS ENDS UP BEING A CASH FLOW TIMING, BUDGET REALLOCATION FLEXIBILITY ISSUE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY AS THE COUNCIL NOW TO KEEP THIS PROJECT ON TRACK, KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING AND GET THEM THROUGH THIS INITIAL NEXT FIVE TO SIX TO 10 MONTHS THAT'S SO DESPERATE FOR THEM. AFTER THAT TIME THE FACT THAT THERE MAY STILL BE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND USE SOME OF THE CAMPO FUNDS THAT RIGHT NOW ARE SORT OF ON HOLD BECAUSE OF THE TIMING NEEDED FOR THAT $400,000 PLEDGED BY OUR REGIONAL NPO. BASED ON ALL OF THAT, JUST MY CONTINUED PLEDGE OF FUNDING SOME PROJECTS SIMILAR TO THE CONGRESS AVENUE BRIDGE AND THE PFLUGER BRIDGE EXTENSION, I DO THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOME LEVEL OF FUNDING TODAY AND CERTAINLY HAVE THE -- THE MANAGER GIVE HIM THE AUTHORITY TO ENTER THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH CAPCO, APPROACH CAPITAL METRO'S BOARD FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE REALLOCATION AT SOME LEVEL AND KEEP THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.

GOODMAN: THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER. SO YOU DIDN'T --

WYNN: WILL WITH, I WAS GOING TO SEE IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE MORE SUGGESTIONS. IF I COULD, ONE LAST POINT, I BELIEVE IN THE NEXT MEETING OR TWO, STAFF IT'S GOING TO BE COMING FORWARD WITH THE SEAHOLM DISTRICT MASTER PLAN FOR APPROVAL. WE -- I THINK SEVERAL OF US HAVE HAD INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH STAFF. PART OF THAT SEAHOLM DISTRICT MASTER PLAN APPROVAL HAS A -- HAS A CHINESE MENU OF 15 OR MORE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS THAT NEED FUNDING. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE, IN DIFFERENT FORM OR FASHION, RELATES TO ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION. THERE'S -- IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS ON THE PFLUGER EXTENSION. THERE'S THE BOWIE STREET UNDERPASS, BORING UNDER THE RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY TO -- TO ESSENTIALLY TIE A ROUTE INTO -- INTO, YOU KNOW, TO THE NORTH. THERE'S THE SHOAL CREEK EXTENSION. THERE'S TYING THIRD STREET INTO THE SEAHOLM AREA, THERE'S PUNCHING WEST AVENUE DOWN THROUGH THE CESAR CHAVEZ. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF TRANSPORTATION, PARTICULARLY ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECTS AS PART OF THAT APPROVAL. STAFF HAS -- YOU KNOW, IDEAS ON FUNDING FOR -- FOR A COUPLE OF THEM. HAS SOME, YOU KNOW, STRONG IDEAS ON A FEW MORE. OTHERS THERE HAVING THE -- TO WITHHOLD JUDGMENT UNTIL THEY CAN SORT OF TEST OUR PRIORITIES OF THE COUNCIL. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, THAT I'M GOING TO BE A VERY STRONG ADVOCATE FOR GETTING MOST OF THOSE PROJECTS FUNDED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I THINK THAT PROBABLY HALF OF THOSE PROJECTS WE COULD FIND FUNDING FOR THIS SPRING. PARTICULARLY IF I HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER CHANCE AT CAPITAL METRO DOLLARS, IF THERE'S SOME -- SOME NOVEMBER 2000 TRANSPORTATION BONDS SOLD, ET CETERA. SO I THINK THERE'S -- I KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT FROM ME FOR FUNDING FOR -- I STRONGLY SUSPECT MORE OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS THAN STAFF IS WILLING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR. WITH THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE BEING ONE OF THE TWO PFLUGER BRIDGE EXTENSION SCENARIOS AND WE WILL FIGURE OUT HOW TO ANALYZE THOSE TWO AND COME TO A CONSENSUS ABOUT THAT.

GARZA: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, I THINK CAPITAL METRO, AT LEAST SOME ON THE CAPITAL METRO BOARD HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THIS PROJECT. ON..SO OUR WILLINGNESS TO DO THIS MAY PUT US A IN A GOOD POSITION AS A CITY BODY TO GO TO CAPITAL METRO AND ASK THEM FOR AN ADDITIONAL QUARTER CENT, TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS THAT COUNCILMEMBER WYNN MENTIONED THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY.

SLUSHER: WELL, CITY MANAGER, BEING ALSO ON THE CAPITAL METRO BOARD, I'M HOPING THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO APPROVE THAT QUARTER OF A CENT COMING BACK TO THE JURISDICTIONS AGAIN WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR WITHIN THE NEXT TWO BOARD MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE. I -- IT WOULDN'T BE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS. JUST THAT I THINK THAT WE -- THAT CAPITAL METRO NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO RETURN THAT MONEY TO THE JURISDICTIONS LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR. ALTHOUGH WE SAY WE DO IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, I DO SUPPORT AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT THE REST OF THE BOARD WILL. I THINK IT WILL.

GOODMAN: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION OR TWO?

WYNN: YES.

GOODMAN: I THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE SUPPORT THIS AND I THINK HAVE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. AND IN FACT MANY EFFORTS ALONG THE WAY HAVE BEEN MADE TO BEGIN SUCH A THING AND SOMETIMES, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE ALL IN THIS REGION I THINK MATURED FROM THE EXTREME PRESSURE, THAT WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH OVER THE YEARS OF GROWTH, AND ARE READY IN MANY RESPECTS TO WORK TOGETHER IN AREAS WE HADN'T BEFORE, BUT THERE IS A HISTORY OF NOT BEING ABLE TO PULL TOGETHER AN EFFORT LIKE THIS. IN FACT, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD PLOY TO USE OFTEN ENOUGH, IN SOME INSTANCES, TO SAY X SHOULDN'T BE DONE UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE A REGIONAL PLAN. AND THEN IN THE PAST YOU COULD SAY THAT WITH -- WITH A FAIRLY GOOD GUARANTEE THAT THAT MEANT PROBABLY IN YOUR GRANDCHILD'S TIME WE MIGHT ALL HAVE A PLAN. SO FROM THE PRACTICAL POINT OF VIEW, WELL, LET ME BACK UP A SECOND AND SAY, ALSO, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, IF THERE IS A MOMENT THAT WE ARE ALL ACKNOWLEDGING WHERE WE COULD MOVE FORWARD, NOTING THE -- THE WONDERFUL ELECTRONIC MODELS AND GIS AND ABILITY TO USE ALL OF THOSE, THAT WE HAVE NOW THAT WE DIDN'T BEFORE, THAT MAKES IT EASIER TO WORK WITH NEIGHBORS, IS THERE A PHASE I THAT YOU MIGHT CHARACTERIZE OUT OF THIS WHERE FROM THIS POINT UNTIL BRINGING BACK INTERLOCALS AND SORT OF A -- AN ASSURANCE THAT WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, AS OPEN POSSESSED TO SOME OF THE EFFORTS -- AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF THE EFFORTS THE CITY HAS MADE IN THE PAST IS ACTUALLY HERE -- IS THERE A DOLLAR RANGE THAT YOU COULD PUT ON THAT? THE REASON THAT I ASK IS BECAUSE ALTHOUGH ORIGINALLY I TALKED TO SOME FOLKS ABOUT THE 5%, I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PRACTICALITIES THAT MAY ACTUALLY NOT BE ENOUGH. ALSO CONSIDERING THE STARS THAT WE HAVE ON BOARD, WHICH ARE GOOD. BUT I ALSO AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH HANDING OVER THIS ENTIRE AMOUNT OF MONEY BECAUSE IT'S SO RARE FOR US IN BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN ISSUES TO HAVE ANY MONEY THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO RAID. I THINK THE LAST TIME WAS WHEN GARY BRADLEY BUILT THE VELOWAY WITH WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO ON SAFETY AND JUST, YOU KNOW, STREET IMPROVEMENTS. SO THE VELOWAY IS A VERY GREAT BICYCLING AMENITY, BUT IT TOOK THE MONEY THAT WENT FOR EVERYTHING ELSE, I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE.

WYNN: YES, THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES. I KNOW THAT THE -- THAT THE TEAM HAS BEEN TRYING TO ANALYZE WHAT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY A PHASE I. IN FACT THERE'S EVEN A STRATEGIC, YOU KNOW, RATIONALE FOR TRYING TO SPECIFICALLY CONTRACT THIS IN PHASES FOR A COUPLE OF -- SORT OF PURCHASING REASONS. I THINK THAT -- THAT NUMBER IS AROUND $250,000. THAT IS PRESUMING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACCESS THE CAMPO FUNDS, DURING THAT PHASE, BECAUSE OF SOME PURCHASING ISSUES. THAT -- THAT COMBINED WITH THE $500,000 IN CAPITAL METRO FUNDS, THAT 750,000 IS ALMOST A PACKAGED PHASE I THAT GETS THEM THROUGH LIKELY THE END OF SUMMER AND, ONE, BY THEN THEY WILL KNOW THAT THE -- THAT THE TECHNICAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE $400,000 OFFER FROM CAMPO, YOU KNOW, HOW IT -- THOSE FUNDS CAN BE ACCESSED; THEN, TWO, THAT GETS US INTO ALL OF OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS '03 BUDGET DISCUSSIONS. BY THEN WE WILL BOTH HAVE OUR '03 DISCUSSIONS AS WILL WILLIAMSON COUNTY, THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS AND TRAVIS COUNTY, ET CETERA.

GOODMAN: THANK YOU.

GRIFFITH: MAYOR PRO TEM?

GOODMAN: COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH?

GRIFFITH: YES. CAN I ASK MR. RUDY GARZA A QUESTION OF A FINANCIAL NATURE.

YES, MA'AM.

GRIFFITH: THE 925,000 THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT CAME OVER FROM CAPITAL METRO, WAS IT FOR STUDY OR WAS IT FOR PHYSICAL THINGS? IS IT CONSTRUCTION MONEY OR RESEARCH MONEY?

IT WAS FOR CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT, THE CONGRESS AVENUE BRIDGE. IT WAS NOT A STUDY.

GRIFFITH: OKAY. THANKS.

COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH, I THINK, ALSO, -- AUSTEN LIBRACH CAN ADD MORE TO MY RESPONSE. HE KNOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT.

COUNCILMEMBER, IF I MAY RECALL, THAT PROJECT WAS TO DESIGN SOME VIEWING PLATFORMS FOR THE VATS THAT WERE ON OR BELOW CONGRESS AVENUE BRIDGE. SO IT DID INCLUDE SOME DESIGN WORK AS WELL AS THE CONSTRUCTION OF WHATEVER CAME OUT OF THAT DESIGN. SO IT'S BOTH PLANNING, IF YOU WILL, PLANNING AND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. FOR THE FUNDS THAT -- THAT CAPITAL METRO AGREED TO AND THE COUNCIL AGREED TO.

GRIFFITH: AND IT WAS VERY SPECIFICALLY THE PLANNING PART WAS VERY SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT BRIDGE? NOT FOR PLANNING IN GENERAL?

OKAY CORRECT. THERE WAS A LIST OF VERY SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND BY CAPITAL METRO. AND THE FUNDS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ARE ONLY SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE AND IN THE CASE OF WHERE WE ARE ASKING FOR A GRANT AND WE WEREN'T SURE WE WERE GOING TO GET THE GRANT, AS I THINK IS -- HAS BEEN INDICATED BEFORE, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO CAPITAL METRO WITH WHATEVER ALTERNATE WE ENDED UP COMING UP WITH. ALTHOUGH I THINK COUNCIL AT THE TIME INDICATED THAT KNOWING THAT WE MIGHT NOT GET THE GRANTS, THEY -- THEY INTENDED THAT THE MONEY WOULD STAY WITH -- BIKE-PED AND SIDEWALK PROGRAMS.

GRIFFITH: SO THE WHOLE 925,000 WAS FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ON CONGRESS AVENUE BRIDGE? IS THAT CORRECT?

CORRECT. YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

GRIFFITH: THANK YOU.

GOODMAN: MR. LIBRACH, BEFORE YOU GO -- I ASSUME, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT THE REASON THIS MONEY WAS DEEMED AVAILABLE WAS BECAUSE IT -- IT IS ALL PART OF PLANNING AND -- AND TRANSPORTATION PLANNING IS -- IS THE MOST CRITICAL NEED FOR US IN THE REGION, SO THE TIE-IN IS PRETTY EASY.

WELL, THE --

GOODMAN: AND THAT THERE WAS NO OTHER MONEY CONSIDERED TO BE APPROPRIATE OR AVAILABLE. IS THAT -- IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD THINK?

MAYOR PRO TEM, WE -- THE COUNCIL AND THE STAFF TOGETHER CAME UP WITH A LIST OF PROJECTS. AND ALONG WITH STAFF OF CAPITAL METRO. MANY OF -- MOST OF WHICH WERE CAPITAL INTENSIVE REGIONAL PROJECTS FOR OUR SHARE OF RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR TOLL ROADS AND THAT SORT OF A THING. SOME OF IT WAS FOR SIGNALIZATION PROJECTS AND OTHER THINGS AND THERE WAS A VARIETY HERE THAT WERE FOR CORRIDORS AND FOR DOWNTOWN SMART GROWTH AND GREAT STREETS KIND OF ACTIVITIES. AND THERE WERE MAYBE 15 OR 20 DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN THAT LIST. AND THEY WERE WHAT WE -- WHAT WE AND CAPITAL METRO FELT WERE THE MOST IMPORTANT ADDITIONAL REGIONAL PROJECTS. AND THEY INCLUDED OFF THE TOP, 15%, GOING TO BIKE AND PED.

GOODMAN: DO YOU KNOW IF ANY OF THOSE ON THE LIST WAS -- WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 250,000?

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

GOODMAN: ON THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT YOU LOOKED AT, WERE ANY OF -- AND MONEY LEFT OR UNUSED, WERE ANY OF THEM CLOSE TO 250,000 AS OPPOSED TO 925?

UM, THERE WERE TWO PROJECTS SO FAR THAT HAVE -- THAT DID NOT GO FORWARD. BOTH OF THOSE WERE PROJECTS FOR FUNDING BY THE T.E.A. 21 PROGRAM. THAT COUNCILMEMBER WYNN REFERRED TO. SO WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS, ROUGHLY BOTH AT AROUND 925930,000 THAT -- 925, 930,000 THAT DID NOT GO FORWARD. SO WITHOUT ANY FURTHER DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, THE MONEY WILL GO TO BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN AND SIDEWALK PROGRAMS.

GOODMAN: AND AS COUNCILMEMBER WYNN MENTIONED, YOU DON'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY? WHAT PROJECTS OR WHAT STAGE OR WHAT IMPLEMENTATION?

I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. I THINK THAT IT TAKES TIME TO -- TO MOVE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, PARTICULARLY INTO THE PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK PROGRAM, BECAUSE THERE'S MANY SMALL PROGRAMS AND SIDEWALKS THAT ARE -- EACH ONE OF WHICH NEEDS TO BE PLANNED AND ENGINEERED, BUT THERE -- BUT THAT TAKES SOME TIME TO DO. SO TO GET THAT INTO THE PROCESS, GET THE PLANNING DONE, SELECT FROM A -- FROM AN ARRAY OF PROJECTS THAT ARE WAITING TO BE DONE, WHICH ONES WOULD BE FOR THIS FUNDING AND SO FORTH WOULD TAKE SOME TIME MAYBE A YEAR, MAYBE MORE.

GOODMAN: AREN'T YOU ALREADY WORKING ON THAT? IN SOME --

WE ARE WORKING ON THE 15% THAT WAS APPROVED, WE ARE WORKING ON THOSE PROJECTS. AND THERE ARE SOME 28 PROJECTS, I THINK, THAT WERE APPROVED WITH -- WITH FUNDING THAT WE ALREADY HAD AND SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT I COULD GO OVER WITH YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. BUT -- OF COURSE THERE IS THE REGULAR PROGRAM WITH -- FOR OTHER MONEY WHERE WE ARE WORKING ON SIDEWALKS. SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SIDEWALK PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE MILL, SO TO SPEAK, THAT ARE IN PROCESS, IN PLANNING AND MOVING TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION. THESE WOULD GET BEHIND THOSE OTHERS AND WOULD COME FORWARD OVER THE PERIOD OF THE NEXT YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF.

GOODMAN: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBERS? ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

SLUSHER: MR. LIBRACH, DO YOU RECALL THE PERCENTAGE OF THE CAPITAL METRO FUNDS THAT WENT INTO BIKE AND PED? WAS IT RIGHT AT 15 OR PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT ABOVE?

I HAVE A CHART HERE. I BELIEVE FROM WHAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PERCENTAGES ARE ON HERE. I BELIEVE IT WAS IN EXCESS OF 15%. LET ME LOOK. SPECIFIC CHART -- IT WILL TAKE ME A FEW MINUTES TO CALCULATE, TO RECALCULATE THE PERCENTAGE. COUNCILMEMBER, THE CHART DOES NOT INDICATE THE PERCENTAGE. BUT AS I RECALL, WE WERE COMFORTABLY OVER THE 15%.

SLUSHER: THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER. NOW, WAS THAT FROM THE -- THERE WAS THE REGIONAL MONEY, THE MONEY THAT WE BONDED AND THEN THERE WAS THE QUARTER CENT. WERE WE OVER WHEN YOU COMBINED ALL OF THOSE?

AGAIN, THE PERCENTAGES ARE NOT HERE. THAT IS MY RECOLLECTION.

SLUSHER: LET ME HAVE A LOOK AT IT. I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO MAKE YOU DO THE MATH RIGHT THERE AT THE MICROPHONE.

GOODMAN: COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH?

GRIFFITH: YES, I HAD A QUESTION FROM MR. STALLINGS. I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT I THINK YOU SAID. IS THERE ANY KIND OF A RISK IN TERMS OF DIVERTING THIS MONEY IN TERM OF NEXT YEAR'S FEDERAL GRANTS? ARE THEY CONNECTED.

WELL, THERE WON'T BE ANY FEDERAL GRANTS FOR NEXT YEAR. NOT ANOTHER CALL FOR ENHANCEMENT PROJECTS PROBABLY UNTIL 2004, BECAUSE T.E.A. 21 HAS TO BE REAUTHORIZED IN 2003. HOWEVER, MANY OF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING AND TALKING ABOUT A REGIONAL BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN MASTER PLAN, THAT WOULD BUDGET AND PHASE ALL OF THIS WORK. I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THE BICYCLE PROGRAM OFFICE AND EVERYBODY I CAN ABOUT THIS. BECAUSE THIS IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE WE SAY, GEEZ, WE HAVE GOT $925,000, WE CAN'T SPEND IT. EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE -- MOST CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES, AT LEAST $200 MILLION JUST TO DO OUR SIDEWALKS. IN TALKING TO THE BICYCLE REGIONAL PROGRAM MANAGER, HER RETICENCE WAS THAT SHE HAS SUCH A LIST OF PROJECTS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS, ALREADY READY TO GO, SHE COULD DO IT NOW READY TO GO IF SHE JUST HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY. THAT CONCERNED ME A LITTLE BIT THAT -- THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY NOT IN A APPROXIMATION TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT -- NOT IN A POSITION TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. IT'S SO HARD TO COME BY THIS MONEY. 10 YEARS NO MONEY AT ALL, NOW WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HOLD ON TO THAT POT OF MONEY. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY CAN GET STARTED, I DO WANT THEM TO GET STARTED. ONCE THERE IS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT SIGNED, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE $500,000 THAT THEY HAVE GOT TO START WITH. BUT APPARENTLY IF THEY START AT ALL, THEY DON'T GET TO GET THAT CAMPO MONEY, THE 400 THOUSAND DOLLARS OF STPC FUNDS, I'M SURE THAT MS. SILAS AND JIM WALKER CAN SPEAK TO THAT BETTER THAN I CAN. BUT I UNDERSTAND IF YOU ARE GOING TO GET THE FEDERAL MONEY LIKE THAT, THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN START, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER YOU HAVE GOTTEN A GRANT, WHICH WOULD HOLD IT UP FOR SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS. IF THEY STARTED WITH DIFFERENT MONEY, THEY LOSE THE ABILITY TO ASK FOR THAT $400,000. THEY ARE KIND OF STUCK RIGHT NOW WITH $500,000 THAT THEY HAVE GOT. BUT THEN AGAIN THAT COULD GIVE THEM A PRETTY GOOD RUNNING START TO CANVAS EVERYBODY ELSE BEFORE WE HAVE TO TAKE ANY RISK, IT'S A SERIOUS COMMITMENT. THE CITY OF AUSTIN BUS RIDERS GENERALLY HAVE PAID THAT CAPITAL METRO MONEY AS WELL. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE CITY OF AUSTIN MONEY INDIRECTLY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S COME BACK TO US FROM CAPITAL METRO. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO -- TO -- YOU KNOW, LET THEM GET STARTED ON THEIR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS, SO THAT WE ARE NOT HOLDING UP THIS REGIONAL BUDGETING PROCESS. THEN WE WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO REVISIT IT. JUST LIKE COUNCILMEMBER WYNN WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE POTENTIAL DIFFERENT PROJECTS, JUST AT SEAHOLM, AND I KNOW IF WE CAN FIND THAT MONEY THIS SPRING FROM SOMEWHERE, WHICH WOULD BE AMAZING IF WE COULD DO THAT, I LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING WITH THAT PROCESS, THEN THEY HAVE $500,000 THAT COULD GET THEM STARTED, WE COULD FIND THEM MORE MONEY IN THE SPRING AS WELL.

SO ARE YOU SAYING IT'S THE CONSTRUCTION MONEY THAT'S WHAT'S SHORT?

WELL, THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS IN THE BICYCLE PROGRAM OFFICE. THEY HAD FIVE STAFF, THEY ARE DOWN TO BASICALLY THE MANAGER AND I THINK ONE ENGINEER. THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH WITHOUT STAFF. AND I CAN SEE THAT BECAUSE OF THE HIRING FREEZE, AND OTHER CONSTRAINTS, THAT -- THAT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THESE PROJECTS. AND THAT THAT -- THAT OFFICE IS SO UNDER FUNDED WITH STAFF, THAT -- THAT THEY ARE -- I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD HAVE SOME REAL HARDSHIPS. HOWEVER FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE BICYCLE-PEDESTRIAN COMMUNITY AND THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT THESE PROJECTS TAKE -- FOR EXAMPLE THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKE WAY, IT'S BEEN OVER TWO YEARS, WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, PUT A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND YET. THESE THINGS TAKE A WHILE, BUT WE HAD TO HAVE THE FUNDING IN HAND. WE NEED TO HAVE IT LINED UP. SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THIS RIGHT BACK INTO THE PFLUGER BRIDGE, WHILE HAS THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PERMITTED, BID, A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK AND REBID BECAUSE IT'S GOTTEN A LITTLE STALE, THAT ONE IS READY TO GO. THERE'S AN ARCHITECT, THERE'S A DESIGN AND IT'S A -- IT'S A -- A PROJECT THAT WENT THROUGH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CITIZEN INPUT. SO -- SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE OF WHERE IT COULD GO. EVEN IF IT HAD TO SIT A LITTLE WHILE UNTIL WE FOUND SOME MORE, IT WOULD SOME THE -- SHOW THE COMMITMENT TO FINISHING THAT PROJECT AND FOR A KEY POINT TO THE SEAHOLM PLANT TO HAVE THAT BRIDGE CONTINUE ACROSS. I THINK THAT WE HAVE PLENTY OF USES FOR THIS. IN FACT I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE HAVE A REGIONAL BICYCLE MASTER PLAN, BUT WE PROBABLY HAVE A 3 OR 400 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN AND TRAIL FACILITIES TO DO OVER THE NEXT 10 OR 15 OR 20 YEARS IF WE ARE EVER TO COMPLETE IT. SO THIS IS A -- YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY A -- A VERY SMALL PART OF THAT OVERALL THING. BUT EVERY DOLLAR COUNTS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO HARD TO COME BY. CITIZENS OF AUSTIN VOTED $30 MILLION FOR BIKE PEDESTRIAN MONEY. THEY HAVE SHOWN A MAJOR AMOUNT OF COMMITMENT TO THIS. I THINK WE SHOULD RESPECT THAT.

GRIFFITH: THANKS.

THANK YOU.

GOODMAN: FURTHER COMMENT? WELL, COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, BY PHASE 1 YOU WERE ESTIMATING WAY BEYOND I THINK JUST HAMMERING OUT THE INTERLOCALS, THE MECHANICS OF THE -- WHERE DID YOU -- WHAT -- WELL, IT'S HARD TO ASK THIS. WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE -- WE WOULD ALL BE FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING OR CONCEPTUALLY SPEAKING BY THE END OF PHASE I, WHAT WOULD WE HAVE IN HAND?

I THINK THAT I WILL NEED TO ASK MR. WALKER, BECAUSE HE'S MORE AWARE OF THE SPECIFICS.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS TO ANSWER THAT. UNTIL WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CONSULTANT, WE ARE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT WE WILL HAVE AND DELIVERABLE. PHASE I, I THINK AGAIN AS COUNCILMEMBER WYNN SUGGESTED, THERE WOULD BE -- WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. IN -- IN ONE OF THEM, THE -- IF WE CAN COMFORTABLY GET THROUGH THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, IT WOULD TAKE US ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, HALF OF THE BUDGET, ANOTHER 500 IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO GET THROUGH -- IT'S HARD -- WE HAVE BROKEN IT DOWN INTO PHASES, SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS, SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE GET STARTED, HOW DO WE PARSE THIS OUT OVER TIME. SO IT'S HARD TO SAY. WE COULD OBVIOUSLY BREAK IT OUT SO THAT WE COULD COME BACK WITH -- WITH THE CONSULTANT TELLING YOU EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH PHASE I. I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERY WAY WE LOOKED AT THAT, IT INVOLVES DATA GATHERING AND DEVELOPING A BASE CASE MODEL OF HOW WE ARE GROWING, WHAT THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION HAVE BEEN, SETTING UP INITIAL, WORKING THE BOARD, SETTING UP THE NETWORK, WORKING ON SOME OF THE [INAUDIBLE] VALUES. THERE'S A LOT OF VALUABLE WORK THAT COULD BE DONE IN PHASE I. BUT EARLY ESTIMATES A MILLION [INAUDIBLE] THROUGH A YEAR OF WORK.

SLUSHER: MAYOR PRO TEM, I FIGURED OUT THE ANSWER I BELIEVE TO THE QUESTION I ASKED MR. LIBRACH. LAST YEAR, WE HAD A QUARTER CENT, A QUARTER CENT TAX WITH THE CITY'S PORTION RETURNED TO THE CITY. THAT WAS 29.5 MILLION. WE HAD BUILD GREATER AUSTIN LUMP SUM, RETURN 20 MILLION. AND THE REGIONAL MOBILITY PROJECT, WHICH THE CITY PROJECTS, WHICH THE CITY BONDED MONEY FROM CAPITAL METRO TO MAKE IT STRETCH FURTHER, THAT WAS 29 MILLION. SO THAT CAME OUT TO 78.5 MILLION TOTAL. ACCORDING TO THIS CHART, THE COUNCIL VOTED 14.2 MILLION INTO BIKE AND PED PROJECTS. SO THAT'S, ACCORDING TO MY CALCULATIONS, 18%, 14.2 MILLION EQUALS 18%. IF WE WERE TO TAKE OUT 250,000 FROM THAT, THAT WOULD BE 17.7%. SO WE WOULD STILL BE WELL ABOVE THE 15 AND -- I WOULD SUGGEST THAT -- THAT IF WE GET THE QUARTER CENT FROM CAPITAL METRO, THAT WE GO ABOVE THE 15 AGAIN ON BIKE PED. AND ALSO I THINK ON THE -- ON THE LAMAR BRIDGE, PEDESTRIAN -- ON THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, THAT -- THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED MORE THAN THIS ALLOCATION TO FINISH IT. I THINK IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET THE CAPITAL METRO UP TO A QUARTER CENT, THAT IS A TOP PRIORITY OF THE -- FOR THE USE OF THAT MONEY IN MY VIEW. WE HAVE -- I DON'T KNOW, SOME OF YOU ALL MAY HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THE STAFF ABOUT THIS, BUT THEY HAVE WORKED ON IT, COME UP WITH SOME OPTIONS THAT ARE MUCH LOWER COST THAN WHAT WAS ON THE TABLE WHEN -- AT THIS TIME WHEN WE APPROVED THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO. SO -- BUT IT'S STILL MORE THAN CAN BE DONE WITH THE AMOUNT IN THIS ITEM HERE. WE COULDN'T GO -- GO GET A CONTRACT AND COMPLETE THAT BRIDGE OR GET IT OVER CESAR CHAVEZ WITH THE MONEY IN THIS APPROPRIATION HERE. CERTAINLY NOT IF WE TOOK 250, IF WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT 250,000. BUT EVEN WITH THE WHOLE 900, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS ON THE TABLE, TO GO DO THIS ANYMORE ANYWAY. BUT IF WE TOOK 250, THAT WOULD MEAN THE -- YOU DIDN'T -- YOU COUNTED THAT AS NOT BEING BIKE-PED ANYMORE, THAT WOULD MEAN 17.7% OF THE MONEY FROM LAST YEAR, ALL THREE CAPITAL METRO SOURCES OF FUNDS, 17.7% WENT TO BIKE-PED.

GOODMAN: I'M SORRY. I WAS -- I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE ELSE. DID YOU MAKE A MOTION?

SLUSHER: NO.

GOODMAN: WELL, I KNOW THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP IN CONVERSATION THAT CAME OUT OF LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSIONS BEFORE. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO BRING SOME OF THOSE ASSUMPTIONS INTO THE DISCUSSION NOW AND ASK ABOUT THEM? COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH?

GRIFFITH: YES. MR. WALKER, DID YOU DO A LINE ITEM ON THE 2 MILLION?

THE LINE ITEM, YOU -- A SINGLE PIECE OF PAPER THAT HAS -- DID Y'ALL NOT -- DO YOU NEED ANOTHER COPY OF THAT?

I THINK THE AGENDA BACKUP HAD THE LINE ITEM --

THE TWO YEAR ESTIMATE.

WE CAN GET SOME EXTRA COPIES. IN THE ANSWERS, ON THE AGENDA QUESTIONS, THERE WAS A BACKUP THAT HAD THE LINE ITEM DETAIL. IS THERE A LINE ITEM ON WHO THE PARTNERS ARE AND HOW MUCH EACH ONE OF THEM IS EXPECTED TO PAY?

WE HAVE A -- WE HAVE COLUMNS FOR PRIMARY CONSULTANT, SUBCONSULTANTS AND THEN COMMUNICATIONS OUTREACH [INAUDIBLE]. SO HOW IT BREAKS, SUBCONSULTANTS, UNTIL THERE'S A CONTRACT WITH THE PRIMARY, I DON'T KNOW. BUT -- BUT I THINK THE -- THE ECONOMIC WORK WOULD DEFINITELY BE LOCAL KIND OF -- THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE TO KNOW -- I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS.

GRIFFITH: I WAS JUST ASKING WHO THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE THAT ARE EXPECTED TO PAY AND HOW MUCH THEY ARE EXPECTED TO PAY.

OTHER REVENUE SOURCES?

GRIFFITH: UH-HUH.

AGAIN, AS I SAID LAST WEEK, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS COMMITMENTS FROM OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM AROUND THE REGION TO TAKE THIS SIMILAR KIND OF ITEM TO THEIR RESPECTIVE BODIES. I -- I'M NOT GOING TO COME DOWN TO AMOUNTS UNTIL THEY'VE HAD A CHANCE TO DELIBERATE AS YOU ALL ARE. WE WOULD WORK, I BELIEVE, TO HAVE THE CAMPO PEER REVIEW FUNDRAISING PROCESS, THAT IT WOULD GO AROUND -- A LOT OF THEM ARE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOES. AND ALSO WAITING TO HEAR FROM, FREGONESE, IF THAT'S THE CONSULTANT THAT WE GO WITH, TO HEAR FROM THE BOARD, THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE GOT FROM THEIR COMMUNITIES, TO MAKE SURE -- AS I SHOWED YOU, WE HAVE -- THERE'S STILL TRUST BUILDING THAT WE HAVE TO GO AS WE GO AROUND THE REGION THAT HAS TO BE DONE AFTER WE GET THE LITERAL BUY-IN. THERE'S AN EXPECTATION ON EVERYBODY'S PART RIGHT NOW THAT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF REGIONAL BUY-IN. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

GRIFFITH: SO WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING TO PAY WHAT OR WHO IS GOING TO BE ASKED FOR WHAT RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, I -- IT WOULDN'T BE GOOD OF ME TO GIVE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. I THINK THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT THERE WILL BE SOME. THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT KIND OF CASH -- I GUESS COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] STATED EARLIER, IT'S KIND OF WHO IS REALLY ABLE TO FLEX WITH THEIR BUDGET MID YEAR IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND CAPITAL METRO HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY THAN MOST.

GRIFFITH: WHY IS THAT.

I DON'T -- SEVERAL OF THE LARGEST ENTITIES IN THE REGION.

GRIFFITH: SO IT'S SORT OF PROPORTIONATE, REALLY.

WELL, SURE. I MEAN THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS 50% OF THE FIVE COUNTY POPULATION.

GRIFFITH: RIGHT. THANKS.

WYNN: MAYOR PRO TEM?

GOODMAN: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

WYNN: I GUESS THAT I WILL TRY TO MAKE A MOTION HERE. I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT YOU ALL HAVE ALL SPENT WITH ME ON THIS. IT'S -- I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S -- IF LAST MONTH, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL PIECES WEREN'T THOUGHT THROUGH WELL AS IT COME UP INITIALLY FROM MY OFFICE, FROM ME. BASED ON, YOU KNOW, SOME CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD AND THE NEED CERTAINLY THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH CAPCO AND ULTIMATELY HAVING THE CITY MANAGER FORM A COMMISSION WITH THE CAPITAL METRO BOARD, APPROVAL OF THE REALLOCATION, I KNOW NOW THAT WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION THAN WE HAD -- NOW THAT WE HAVE THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND/OR CAPITAL METRO REALLOCATION DISCUSSIONS HERE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM NO. 19. HOWEVER, REDUCING THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED THE $250,000 INSTEAD OF THE 925.

SLUSHER: I WILL SECOND THAT.

GOODMAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK FURTHER TO YOUR MOTION, COUNCILMEMBER?

WYNN: NO, MA'AM.

GOODMAN: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER?

SLUSHER: YEAH. SEE, I -- FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THIS IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE FUTURE OF THE ENTIRE REGION. I THINK IT'S -- I THINK THAT WE, AS I HAVE SHOWN ON THOSE CALCULATIONS, WE ARE STILL CONSIDERABLY A FEW PERCENTAGE POINTS ANYWAY ABOVE 15%, SO I THINK WE KEEP OUR COMMITMENT ON THAT. I THINK THERE WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL BENEFITS TO -- TO BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS THAT -- THAT COME OUT OF THE REGIONAL VISIONING STUDY. AND ALSO I DON'T ACCEPT THAT -- THAT THE -- THE OTHER $725,000 CAN'T BE UTILIZED AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE SOME VERY SERIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS AND SHORTCOMINGS, BOTH FOR BICYCLE, BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS, SO I WOULD -- I WOULD ADD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE STAFF TO COME BACK, WITH RECOMMENDATIONS QUICKLY, ON HOW THEY PROPOSE TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY BEING THE PARAMOUNT CONCERN.

GRIFFITH: MAYOR PRO TEM?

WYNN: IN FACT FRANKLY WHAT WE SHOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY ALSO TO REALIZE THAT THE -- THE BOGGY CREEK MATCH ALSO WASN'T USED. SO PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGE STAFF TO COME UP WITH -- WITH HOW BEST TO USE THAT -- THAT MATCH THAT WAS UNUSED.

SLUSHER: YES, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.

WYNN: RIGHT.

GOODMAN: COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH?

GRIFFITH: YES, I THINK EVERYBODY IS FOR A REGIONAL VISIONING OPPORTUNITY. THE -- THE QUESTION IS SHOULD YOU USE BIKE AND PED MONEY FOR THAT. AND MONEY THAT WAS INTENDED TO -- FOR ESSENTIALLY FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF ONE PARTICULAR THING. IS THERE A WAY THAT STAFF COULD WORK WITH US ON IF WE USE SOME MONEY OUT OF THIS, THAT IT COULD BE REPLACED ON A -- FROM A SPECIFIC SOURCE THAT WE KNOW OF AT A SPECIFIC LATER TIME? SO IT WOULD NOT BE TAKING BIKE AND PED, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE FRONTING IT FOR A WHILE. AND THEN THE BIKE AND PED PROJECTS WOULD GET IT BACK.

IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER, I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES, WE COULD -- WE COULD TRY TO DEFINE SOME OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT -- THAT -- WHERE THE FUNDS FOR THE VISIONING STUDY MIGHT COME FROM IN THE FUTURE. AND IDENTIFY THOSE FOR YOU.

GRIFFITH: WOOL, IT WOULDN'T -- WELL, IT WOULDN'T -- WE WOULD BE USING MONEY FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A -- OF A PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE PROJECT. SO WE WOULD THEN NEED TO REPLENISH THAT WITH SOMETHING ELSE. AND KNOW WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM. AND WHEN. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ABOUT THAT? SO WE DON'T -- SO WE DON'T REDUCE THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION RESOURCES FOR BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN AND YET WE CAN FRONT IT FOR, SAY, A YEAR AND THEN GET IT BACK. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT ALL OF THIS HAPPENS IN PHASES.

THE ONLY NEW FUNDING SOURCE RIGHT NOW THAT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT -- THAT SEVERAL COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE DISCUSSED IS A SECOND YEAR OF A QUARTER CENT OF CAPITAL METRO REFUND. IF THAT WERE TO BECOME AVAILABLE, THAT COULD BE A SOURCE OF FUNDS AND WOULD NOT HAVE -- YOU COULD THEN POTENTIALLY USE THOSE FUNDS, BUT NOT THE REGULAR 15% OR WHATEVER THE AMOUNT IS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO DEDICATE FOR BIKE AND PED, YOU COULD USE OTHER FUNDS OUT OF THAT QUARTER CENT FOR THE VISIONING STUDY. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, OF COURSE, THAT WE DON'T AT THIS POINT IN TIME KNOW HOW SOUTH KOREAN THAT FUNDING HOW CERTAIN THAT FUNDING SOURCE IT.

GRIFFITH: OF CAPITAL METRO.

CORRECT.

GRIFFITH: HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT IF IT SHOWS UP TO COMMIT THE REPLENISHMENT OF THE MONEY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] HERE FOR THE STUDY?

I FEEL? [ LAUGHTER ]. I THINK THAT --

GRIFFITH: THAT'S PROBABLY NOT YOURS TO COMMIT. I UNDERSTAND. ALL RIGHT.

SLUSHER: THAT'S US, I WOULD BE FOR THAT.

GRIFFITH: WOULD YOU BE FOR THAT?

SLUSHER: I THINK I ALREADY SAID THAT EARLIER.

GRIFFITH: TO ESSENTIALLY BORROW.

SLUSHER: [INAUDIBLE - NO MIC]

GRIFFITH: YES, FRONT IT. WELL, THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH IT.

SLUSHER: I THINK WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO VOTES FOR THAT OVER AT CAPITAL METRO. SO MAYBE ...

GRIFFITH: SO MAYBE. OKAY. HOW CAN I DO WHAT I HOPE WOULD BE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT WOULD SAY THAT? WE WOULD SAY THAT WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY TAKE THE MONEY WE ARE PUTTING IN THIS OUT AND THEN REPLENISH IT FROM NOT WHAT WOULD BE CAP -- NOT WHAT WOULD BE -- ADDITIONAL -- ADDITIONAL BIKE AND PED MONEY FROM -- FROM NEXT YEAR'S CAPITAL METRO --

SLUSHER: LET ME ASK A -- I THINK THAT YOU WOULD SAY THAT -- THAT IF THE CITY RECEIVES THE QUARTER CENT FUNDS FROM CAPITAL METRO, THIS YEAR, THAT -- THAT AT LEAST 15% OF THOSE WOULD GO TO BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PROJECTS AND JUST IN PARENTHESES, I HOPE THAT IT WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT, BUT AT LEAST 15% WOULD GO TO BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PROJECTS AND THE -- AND/OR PLUS THE $250,000 THAT'S BEING ALLOCATED HERE WOULD GO ON TOP OF THAT 15%.

GRIFFITH: OKAY. MAY I MAKE THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

SLUSHER: THIS IS COUNCILMEMBER WYNN'S MOTION.

WYNN: I WILL ACCEPT IT BECAUSE FRANKLY I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY. PART OF MY INTRODUCTION OF THIS IS I FRANKLY SEE THIS AS A TIMING ISSUE THAT WE ARE SPENDING SOME -- YOU KNOW, WE ARE GETTING SOME MONEY SPENT, DOING SOME GOOD, IMPORTANT REGIONAL PLANNING NOW. THIS PROJECT -- THIS FUND PROBABLY WASN'T GOING TO GET SPENT, YOU KNOW, ANY TIME SOON. IN FACT I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF REPLENISHING THE CONGRESS AVENUE BRIDGE FUND OUT OF THE -- IF WE GET A QUARTER CENT FROM CAPITAL METRO. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR. BUT I SORT OF SEE THIS FRNG FRANKLY THIS ALLOCATION AS A BUDGETARY TIMING REALLOCATION THAT -- SORT OF THE ADVANTAGE THAT WE HAVE AS HAVING THIS MUCH FUNDS SET ASIDE, BUT I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF NOT ONLY DOING THE 15%, IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY, IF WE HAVE THOSE FUNDS NEXT YEAR, BUT ABSOLUTELY REPLENISHING THIS -- THIS PROJECT.

GRIFFITH: I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT IT ISN'T INCLUDED IN THE BASIC 15%, THAT WOULD BE EXPECTED, BUT ON TOP OF THAT. WE ARE READY TO -- READY TO COMMIT THAT.

WYNN: I AGREE TO THAT CERTAINLY, YES.

SLUSHER: I WILL ACCEPT THAT AS A SECOND. I HOPE THAT WE GO INTO CAPITAL METRO WITH TWO VOTES FOR ALLOCATING THAT MONEY. I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO GET ANYBODY TO COMMIT IN ADVANCE OR ANYTHING, BUT I WOULD SURE HOPE THAT WE DO.

GOODMAN: MAYBE THE REST OF US SHOULD COME SEE WHAT ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS IS LIKE AND REMIND YOU.

SLUSHER: WE CAN GET YOU A TAPE, TOO, IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF SPARE TIME, YOU CAN WATCH IT AT HOME. [ LAUGHTER ].

GOODMAN: FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THEN THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER, WITH THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FROM COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? ABSTAINING? WITH THE MAYOR TEMPORARILY OFF THE DIAS IN ORDER TO ABSTAIN, I BELIEVE. BUT HE CAN COME BACK NOW.

GARZA: IT'S REALLY UP TO THE COUNCIL. WE DO HAVE A VERY ROUTINE TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT UP BEFORE ZONING, BUT ZONING IS THE NEXT SCHEDULED ITEM.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU MAYOR, I THINK THAT I'M GOING TO DELEGATE MORE STUFF TO YOU. MS. GLASGO, ARE WE READY ON LONG HORSE P.U.D.?

GLASGO: MAYOR, WE ARE READY, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER COUNCIL, IF WE COULD DO THE REGULAR 4:00 CONSENT ITEMS, THEY ARE ALL CONSENT AND THEN END UP -- CONCLUDE ZONING MEETING WITH WILD HORSE BECAUSE WE NEED TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE -- WHAT IS --

MAYOR GARCIA: SURE, WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO TO THE 4:00 TIME CERTAIN. THAT IS ON PAGE 13 OF THE AGENDA, ITEMS Z-1, Z-2 AND Z-3. AND ON ITEM Z-1, COUNCILMEMBER DARYL SLUSHER AND COUNCILMEMBER WILL WYNN WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT.

GLASGO: MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS, I'M ALICE GLASGO, DIRECTOR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. OUR ZONING CASES FOR TODAY ARE AS FOLLOWS, ITEM NO. Z-CASE C14-01-65, NAMELY THE BARE LAKE PLANNED UTILITY DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS REQUESTS FOR POSTPONEMENT FOR FIVE WEEKS AND THAT -- THAT POSTPONEMENT UNTIL MARCH THE 21ST, THE REQUEST IS -- IS -- HAS BEEN SOUGHT UNDER THE BASIS OF SEEKING CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS AND DIALOGUE TO HOPEFULLY RESOLVE OUTSTANDING ISSUES.

MAYOR GARCIA: OKAY. IT'S CONSENT FOR POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 21ST.

GLASGO: CORRECT. THE APPLICANT, ALTHOUGH, WOULD LIKE US TO KNOW FOR THE RECORD THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH THE POSTPONEMENT, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO DECIDE. ITEM NO. Z-2, C14-01-157, THIS CASE IS LOCATED AT 11900 METRIC BOULEVARD. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED G.R.-C.O., COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WITH CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A CHANGE TO CS-1 WHICH STANDS FOR COMMERCIAL LIQUOR SALES MUCH THE ZONING AND PLATTING HAS RECOMMENDED CS-1 WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. THIS CASE IS READY FOR FIRST READINGS. ITEM NO. Z-3, C14-01-173, LOCATED AT 14009 RESEARCH BOULEVARD, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A CHANGE FROM DR DEVELOPMENT RESERVE TO G.R., COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING. THE ZONING ZONING RECOMMENDS THE -- RECOMMENDS THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, THIS CASE IS READY FOR ALL THREE READINGS, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION ON THE CONSENT ITEMS, MAYOR.

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCIL, Z-1 IS RECOMMENDED FOR CONSENT FOR POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 21ST, 2003; Z-2 IS CONSENT FOR THE FIRST READING AND Z-3 FOR THE THREE READINGS. AND I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER FOR COMMENT ON Z-1.

SLUSHER: THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS ISSUE, WE HAVE BEFORE US TODAY, IS SPECIFICALLY -- SPECIFICALLY IS THE BEAR LAKE P.U.D., WHICH IS PARTED OF STRATUS PROPERTIES HOLDINGS AT CIRCLE C. A LOT OF FOLKS WILL RECOGNIZE THAT THE STRATUS PROPERTIES IS THE SUCCESSOR TO FREEPORT MACMORAN, WHO CAME TO LOCAL FAME OR INFAMEMY WITH THEIR BARTON CREEK P.U.D. PROPOSAL, WHICH WAS 12 YEARS AGO THIS JUNE. IT WILL BE 12 YEARS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE WITHOUT IT BEING RESOLVED. WE ARE ON OUR FOURTH MAYOR SINCE -- SINCE THAT TIME. SO THAT'S A LONG TIME TO BE DEALING WITH ANY ISSUE. AND THIS IS JUST ONE SMALL PART OF IT THAT IS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY. BUT I HAVE HEARD FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR THAT THEY THINK THAT THIS ISSUE CAN BE SETTLED IN THE NEXT FIVE WEEKS. AND SO I'M WILLING TO -- TO SUPPORT THE POSTPONEMENT SO THAT WE CAN ATTEMPT TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO DURING OUR TIME PERIOD IS TO SETTLE THIS LONG RANGING -- LONG RUNNING ISSUE. SO WITHOUT -- UNLESS -- UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE ON THE COUNCIL OBJECTS, I WOULD LIKE TO INSTRUCT THE STAFF TO WORK WITH ALL OF THE INTERESTED PARTIES TO TRY TO COME UP WITH NOT JUST A SOLUTION TO THIS BEAR CREEK P.U.D. MATTER, BUT TO ALL THE STRATUS PROPERTIES AT CIRCLE C, IF POSSIBLE EVEN TO THEIR OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG BARTON CREEK. AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE SETTLEMENT TO WHICH EVERYONE CAN AGREE OR AT LEAST TO WHICH A WHOLE LOT OF FOLKS CAN AGREE TO. AND ONCE AND FOR ALL GET THIS BEHIND US IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS THE ENVIRONMENT AND PROTECTS THE CITY TREASURY AND HELPS US MOVE DOWN THE ROAD AND END THIS THING. IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, PEOPLE TELL ME THAT WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, THEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TAKE AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE GOOD FAITH EFFORT, A GOOD FAITH EFFORT ON EVERYONE'S PART. I WOULD REALLY APPEAL TO CITIZENS TO JUST -- JUST HAVE A CEASE FIRE FOR FIVE WEEKS AND THEN COME BACK AND HAVE ALL OF THE SAME ARGUMENTS FIVE WEEKS FROM NOW. LET'S REALLY IN GOOD FAITH TRY TO WORK THIS OUT BASED ON THE MERITS OF THE ISSUE, BASED ON PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT:I KNOW I PERSONALLY WOULD -- I PERSONALLY WOULD RATHER THAT THERE BE NO DEVELOPMENT ON THESE TRACTS. BUT THEY ARE IN PRIVATE HANDS, UNDER PRIVATE INVESTMENT, WITH -- WITH STOCKHOLDERS AND A BOARD OF DIRECTORS FROM THE COMPANY AND SO -- SO STRATUS WANTS TO DEVELOP THOSE PROPERTIES, THEY HAVE -- THEY HAVE -- FRANKLY THEY HAVE BEEN PRETTY FLEXIBLE ABOUT DELAYING THIS ISSUE NOT ASKING FOR A VOTE AS LONG AS THEY HAVE. I TAKE THAT AS GOOD FAITH ON THEIR PART AND I WOULD APPEAL TO EVERYONE ELSE TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH AND NOT JUST USE THIS AS A DELAYING TACTIC TO -- TO TRY TO MARSHAL FORCES FOR LATER. BUT INSTEAD TRY TO TRULY AND HONESTLY WORK THIS OUT IN A WAY THAT WE CAN END THIS 12 YEAR BATTLE THAT WE'VE HAD IN OUR CITY. AND I -- I KNOW THAT THE CIRCLE C RESIDENTS ARE INVOLVED IN THIS, THE RESIDENTS ACROSS 1826 FROM BEAR LAKE P.U.D. A WIDE ARRAY OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY, THE LADYBIRD JOHNSON WILDFLOWER CENTER AND FRAT CONSTITUTES. I WOULD LIKE -- AND STRATUS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL OF THOSE FOLKS REALLY, REALLY WORK TOGETHER ALONG WITH THE CITY STAFF, COUNCILMEMBERS, TO SEE IF WE CAN WORK THIS OUT. I REALLY WAS SKEPTICAL, VERY SKEPTICAL WHEN FOLKS STARTED COMING IN MY OFFICE LAST FRIDAY AND SAID THAT THEY WERE VERY CLOSE TO AGREEMENT. SOMEONE USED THE FIGURE 85% THERE. SINCE THEN I HAVE TALKED TO OTHER PEOPLE, HAVE SEEN SOME FAIRLY WIDELY VARYING PERCENTAGES ON HOW CLOSE THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE. BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TRY TO GET TO 100% OF THAT BY MARCH. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

[ONE MOMENT PLEASE FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS]

MAYOR WATSON: WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. AND USUALLY WHEN WE POSTPONE AN ITEM, WE DO NOT RECOGNIZE ANYBODY FOR SPEAKING BECAUSE THIS ITEM WILL BE BACK MARCH 21ST. BUT I WANT TO READ INTO THE RECORD YOUR COMMENTS. VIF I CAN'T CAPUTO REGISTERED AGAINST. CHARLES A. WALL REGISTERED AGAINST. JAMIE WALL REGISTERED AGAINST. AND KEN RIGBY REGISTERED AGAINST. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING AND WE'LL SEE YOU ON THE 21ST. AND AT A TIME WHEN YOU GET HERE, MAKE SURE YOU SIGN IN WITH THE CARDS SO I CAN RECOGNIZE YOU AT THAT TIME. COUNCIL, THAT'S ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND THAT'S ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE, AGAIN, ITEMS Z-1, CONSENT POSTPONED TO MARCH THE 21ST. Z-2, CONSENT FOR FIRST READING. AND Z-3, CONSENT FOR ALL THREE READINGS. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

WYNN: SO MOVE.

MAYOR GARCIA: MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER WYNN. SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER. DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED NO. MOTION CARRIES. AND WE'RE GOING TO WAIT ON WILD HORSE ARE ARE WE READY NOW?

WE'RE READY. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS, THE WILD HORSE CASE IS ITEM NUMBER 28 ON YOUR AGENDA. IT'S CASE CA 14-2063. THIS IS A CASE THAT WAS BEFORE YOU LAST WEEK FOR SECOND READING. WE INDICATED TO YOU THEN THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH THE APPLICANTS TO RESOLVE A FEW OF THE PENDING ISSUES AND WE HAVE DONE THAT. THAT HAS WORKED WITHIN THE LAST WEEK TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THOSE ISSUES. THERE WERE 33 ITEMS THAT WE HAD SHARED WITH YOU, AND OUT OF THOSE I THINK THAT SEVEN WERE THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. AND AT THIS POINT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS THAT MARTY TERRY WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCEDURE AND REQUIREMENTS ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH THE ITEMS AND THEN THE PROJECT MANAGER WILL JUST WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED. AND THAT SHOULD BE IT. IT SHOULD BE SHORT AND SWEET, WE HOPE.

MAYOR GARCIA: I LIKE MS. GLASCO'S POSITIVE APPROACH.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE JUST AS UPBEAT. WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN EXTENSIVE NEGOTIATIONS AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS NOT ONLY AGENDA ITEM 28, WHICH IS THE ZONING ITEM, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE BEFORE YOU THE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ITEMS WHICH ARE ITEMS 42 AND 43. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE MUST ANNEX THE PROPERTY BEFORE WE CAN ZONE IT. SO WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND THEN WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS REMIND YOU THAT BEFORE YOU BEGIN VOTING ON THE ZONING PROVISION YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO VOTE ON THE ANNEXATION FIRST. SO THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED. YOU SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THREE ITEMS. YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED ON SECOND READING. YOU ALSO HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU A CHART, AND THE CHART IS SEVERAL PAGES LONG. AND THIS IS WHAT SUSAN IS GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH, SUSAN VILLAREAL FROM ZONING AND PLATTING. AND WHAT I'LL TELL YOU IN ANTICIPATION OF HER WALKING YOU THROUGH THAT CHART IS THAT THE FIRST PAGE REFLECTS THOSE MATTERS WHICH WE HAVE FINALLY REACHED AGREEMENT ON. THOSE WERE THE HIGHWAYLY CONTESTED ITEMS THAT WE HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING BACK AND FORTH EVEN THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON.

MAYOR GARCIA: MARTY, LET ME ASK MS. VILLAREAL IF YOU COULD JOIN US OVER HERE SO YOU CAN LOOK AT US STRAIGHT AND DON'T HAVE TO BE STANDING.

THE REMAINING THING -- I'M SORRY.

MAYOR GARCIA: NO PROBLEM.

THE REMAINING PAGES OF THAT CHART REFLECT ALL OF THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN REACHED, SO THE CRITICAL PAGE IS THAT FIRST PAGE. THE FINAL ITEM THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE MENU OF LANGUAGE ITEMS THAT SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO ADOPT THE COMPROMISES THAT SPAC AND THE APPLICANT HAVE WORKED OUT, THAT LANGUAGE REFLECTS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO ADOPT AND IT WILL GO INTO THE LANGUAGE AND I WILL HELP TAKE YOU THROUGH THAT AND EXPLAIN THE PROVISIONS AS WE GO AND WHERE THEY WOULD GO IN THE ORDINANCE. THERE IS ONE OTHER ITEM THAT I NEED TO POINT OUT TO YOU, AND THAT IS THERE ARE NUMEROUS EXHIBITS THAT WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE FINAL ORDINANCE THAT REFLECT THE CHANGES IN THE ORDINANCE AND REFLECT AGREEMENTS REACHED WITH THE APPLICANT. THAT'S THE LAND USE PLAN. SUSAN IS ALSO GOING TO DESCRIBE FOR YOU SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR YOU TO INCLUDE IN YOUR MOTION. THESE ARE NOT PROVISIONS THAT WILL GO IN THE ORDINANCE, IT IS MERELY WE WOULD ASK YOU IF YOU ARE AMENABLE THOSE CHANGES TO APPROVE THAT THOSE CHANGES BE INCLUDED AS REVISIONS TO THE LAND USE PLAN. SO WITH ALL OF THAT, AND I AM GOING TO TRY AND HELP YOU GO THROUGH THIS PIECE BY PIECE SO THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO YOU. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO SUSAN TO DESCRIBE THE AGREEMENTS THAT WERE REACHED ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THAT CHART.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE FIRST PAGE OF THE CHART THAT YOU HAVE WHICH HAS THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE WILD HORSE P.U.D. PROPOSAL AND THE HISTORY ON STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND COUNCIL ACTION HAS ON THE FIRST PAGE THE SEVEN ITEMS WHERE LAST WEEK WE HAD DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN STAFF RELIGIOUS AND THE APPLICANT. THE FIRST WAS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 380 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY APPROVED THAT BE EXCLUDED FROM THE ZONING ORDINANCE. SINCE THAT TIME WE MET WITH THE APPLICANT. THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE FOR THE COUNCIL TO DIRECT STAFF TO EVALUATE THE ECONOMIC FEASIBILITY OF DOING A CHAPTER 380 AS A SEPARATE AGREEMENT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. ON ITEM 2, THE MIXED USE CENTER, WHICH IS A 15-ACRE, THREE-PARCEL CENTER THAT'S PARTIALLY BASED ON THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT STANDARDS, THEY HAVE WANTED A DRIVE-THROUGH OR DRIVE-THROUGH USES IN THAT 15 ACRES. STAFF RECOMMENDED AGAINST THAT, WHICH WAS APPROVED AT FIRST AND SECOND READING. HOWEVER, TODAY WE ARE PRESENTING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE APPLICANT TO LIMIT DRIVE-THROUGH ACCESSORY USES TO ONE USE IN PARCEL B-4, WHICH IS THE ONE PARCEL THAT BACKS UP TO PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL USES. SO THAT WOULD BE THE PROMISE POSITION ON THAT. THE SH 130 RIGHT-OF-WAY, AT FIRST READING WE PROVIDED INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL THAT GENERALLY THAT IS OBTAINED THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION AND SITE PLAN PROCESS. HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF THE ROAD AND THE PREROGATIVE OF THE APPLICANT TO EXCLUDE THE ROAD FROM THE SUBDIVISION PLAT OR SITE PLAN APPLICATION, STAFF RECOMMENDED WE ASK FOR THE STANDARD AMOUNT OF RIGHT-OF-WAY WHICH WOULD BE TOTAL OF 150 FEET, WITH THE ZONING CASE AS WE REQUIRE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN MANY OTHER ZONING CASES. THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO DO THAT DEDICATION IF HE HAS ACCESS TO THE ROADWAY. AND THERE'S LANGUAGE BEFORE YOU IN THE ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS THAT DESCRIBES HOW WE ARE DEFINING ACCESS TO THAT ROADWAY. THE GROWTH SITE IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT OF 50% THAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSED, BUT WITH BASICALLY A VARIANCE FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 25865, WHICH REQUIRES SUBDIVISIONS AND SITE PLANS TO ACCOUNT FOR BOUNDARY STREET AND INTERNAL STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY IN THE IMPERVIOUS COVER CALCULATIONS. THE STAFF HAD INITIALLY RECOMMENDED A 40% IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT AS A ZONING CONTROL AS A BENEFIT THE P.U.D. COULD SHOW BECAUSE THEIR NUMBERS SUGGESTED THEY WOULD HAVE LESS THAN THAT AND WHEN THEY FINALLY DEVELOP. HOWEVER, THE STAFF HAD NOT RECOMMENDED THE VARIANCE TO THE ROADWAY IMPERVIOUS COVER ISSUE. THE STAFF AND APPLICANT HAVE NOW AGREED TO COMPROMISE TO DELETE THE -- ANY GROWTH SITE IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT TO HAVE THE ZONING LIMITS BE THE SAME AS THE WATERSHED LIMITS WITH TRANSFERS FOR IMPERVIOUS COVER, AND ALSO TO LIMIT THE INCLUSION OF IMPERVIOUS COVER FROM SH 130 TO 44 FEET AS A BOUNDARY STREET OR 88 FEET IF THE SUBDIVISION OR SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE ENTIRE ROAD. ITEM NUMBER 5 WAS SIGNAGE CONTROLS ON SH 130, AND ALSO IN THEIR INITIAL PROPOSAL THEY HAD REQUESTED VARIANCES FROM FIVE REGULATIONS IN THE CODE. WE DID NOT RECOMMEND THAT. THEY'VE AGREED TO DROP THAT REQUEST AND THEY ARE ALSO AGREEING WITH REQUIRING SH 130 THROUGH THE P.U.D. TO BE TIED TO THE SCENIC ROADWAY STANDARDS, AND WE HAVE ALSO AGREED TO INITIATE A CODE AMENDMENT TO BRING BEFORE YOU TO ADD SH 130 AS A SCENIC ROADWAY IN THE DEFINITION SECTION OF THE CODE. THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE THE WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITIES AGREEMENT. THERE ARE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS BEING NEGOTIATED, BUT THOSE WILL BE SEPARATE DOCUMENTS SIGNED AT THAT TIME AND WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN THIS ZONING ORDINANCE. AND THE LAST TWO ITEMS WERE RESERVATIONS OF CERTAIN PARCELS FOR AN E.M.S. STATION AND FOR A LIGHT RAIL SITE. AND THE ONLY ISSUE WITH THOSE WAS THAT THEY HAD INITIALLY PROPOSED, I BELIEVE, THREE YEARS AND FOUR YEARS AND NOW IT'S DOWN -- BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF TIME THIS HAS BEEN IN PROCESS IT'S DOWN TO ABOUT TWO. THEY'VE AGREED TO EXTEND THAT RESERVATION TO 10 YEARS BASED ON STAFF EXPERIENCE WITH SIMILAR P.U.D.S THAT WE FEEL IT TAKES THAT LONG TO REALLY GET DEVELOPMENT UNDERWAY. SO THAT WOULD CONCLUDE THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE COME BEFORE WITH A PROPOSAL THAT BOTH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF CAN SUPPORT FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO YOU. ALSO, JUST A BRIEF MENTION OF THE VARIOUS EXHIBITS WHICH WILL BE WITH THE MAP AND THE LAND PLAN EXHIBITS. THERE ARE SOME MINOR CHANGES. WE WANT TO ADD A NOTE ABOUT HOW TO PROCESS THE MIXED IN CITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS. WE WANT TO ADD SOME LANGUAGE TO COMPLICATE THEIR ESTIMATED NET SITE AREA TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THOSE ARE ESTIMATES AT THIS TIME AND WILL NOT BE USED TO CALCULATE IMPERVIOUS COVER ALLOCATIONS ON INDIVIDUAL SUBDIVISION OR SITE PLAN APPLICATION. AND THE -- THERE'S A NOTE THAT JUST WAS ACCIDENTALLY LEFT ON REFLECTING THE GROSS IMPERVIOUS COVER. THAT WILL ALSO NEED TO BE DELETED. SO THAT QKS CONCLUDES THE STATUS OF THE NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND STAFF. AND I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO MS. TERRY TO WALK THROUGH THE PROCEDURE.

AT THIS POINT I WOULD REFER THE COUNCIL -- MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO A DOCUMENT THAT FIRST IS ENTITLED WILD HORSE P.U.D. REVISED AGREED ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS. AS DISCUSSED ON THE CHART, THESE ARE THE VARIOUS PROVISIONS, AND AGAIN THERE IS SOME CLARIFICATION PROVISIONS AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PROVISIONS THAT WE WORKED THROUGH THAT BASICALLY ACCOMPLISHED THE AGREEMENTS THAT THE STAFF HAS REACHED WITH THE APPLICANT. ON THE FIRST PAGE YOU HAVE AN ITEM ENTITLED RUNOFF FROM SH 130. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THERE'S A TYPO ON B. IT READS AND PROJECT AND IT SHOULD READ "A PROJECT". SO IT SHOULD BE A PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM SUBPART A. THIS WOULD BE A NEW PART OF THE ORDINANCE, AND THIS REFLECTS THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE STAFF WISHED TO HAVE INSERTED THAT ADDRESSES RUNOFF FROM THE STATE HIGHWAY 130. THE ROADWAY SECTION IS THE NEXT SECTION ON THAT FRONT PAGE, AND IT WOULD ALSO BE A NEW PART. AND WHEN I SAY A NEW PART, WHAT WOULD WE WOULD PROPOSE IS THIS, AND THAT IS YOUR BASIC ORDINANCE IS THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU ADOPTED ON SECOND READING AND THESE NEW PARTS WOULD BE INSERTED JUST BEFORE PART 10, AND THEN PART 10 WOULD BE RENUMBERED. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU CHOOSE TO ADOPT THE PROVISION WE'RE SUGGESTING ON THE RUNOFF FROM SH 130, THAT WOULD BE A NEW PART 10. THE ROADWAYS PROVISION, WHICH IS THE NEXT PROVISION, WOULD BE A NEW PART 11. AND SO ON THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT. ON PAGE 2 THERE WOULD BE A NEW PROVISION CONCERNING ROAD ALIGNMENT WHICH REFLECTS THE AGREEMENT REACHED WITH THE APPLICANT CONCERNING HOW STREET ALIGNMENT REQUIREMENT WOULD BE HANDLED. THAT PARTICULAR PROVISION GIVES THE DIRECTOR THE DISCRETION TO APPROVE DEPARTURES FROM STREET ALIGNMENT REQUIREMENTS WHERE APPROPRIATE. THE NEXT SECTION IS A NEW PART, AND THIS IS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION FROM SH 130. AND I'M GOING TO BE UP FRONT WITH THE COUNCIL. THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION WAS THE SUBJECT OF MUCH NEGOTIATION, INCLUDING UP TO, I GUESS, MAYBE AS MUCH AS HALF AN HOUR AGO. STAFF HAS WORKED VIGOROUSLY TO GET THE BEST RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION STAFF BELIEVES IT CAN GET AS ALLOWED BY LAW. SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS PROVISION AND THIS PROVISION WAS A TOUGH ONE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE APPLICANT. I THINK BOTH SIDES HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO COMPROMISE ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. THERE IS -- THE NEXT PAGE CONTAINS -- THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO CLARIFICATION OF PROVISIONS. THERE IS AN AGREED CLARIFICATION FOR PART 4 OF THE ORDINANCE, SECTION C OR SUBPART C. AND THIS IS CLARIFYING THE LANGUAGE WHICH WAS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS CONFUSING. WE WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THIS SO THAT 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN STAFF IS LEFT THERE, IT WILL BE CLEAR TO STAFF WHAT IS REQUIRED BY THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION WHEN PERHAPS SOME OF US AREN'T HERE WHO ARE HERE AND NEGOTIATED THE DEAL. THE DEVELOPMENT INTENSITY TRANSFERS IS TO BE ADDED AS PART OF PART 4, B-3 AND IT BASICALLY PROVIDES THAT THERE CAN BE NO DEVELOPMENT INTENSITY TRANSFERS PERMITTED FROM PARCEL D-11. THAT'S PART OF THE PARK PROVISIONS THAT WE WANTED TO PUT A LIMITATION ON. AND THE FINAL PAGE IS PARKLAND DEDICATION. WE HAVE LAID OUT FOR YOU THE PROVISION THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE LANGUAGE IN PART 4-F AND THEN WE HAVE LAID OUT FOR YOU THE NEW LANGUAGE THAT WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPT, WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS AND WE AGREED TO. AND THIS SPECIFIED SEVERAL THINGS. IT NOTES THAT WHAT IS BEING DID DEAD DEDICATE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN EXCESS OF CODE REQUIREMENTS, BUT IT ALSO SETS OUT THE PROCEDURE IN THE FUTURE SHOULD THE DEVELOPMENT CHANGE AND MORE PARKLAND IS TO BE REQUIRED TO BE DEDICATED, HOW THAT PROCESS TAKES PLACE AND HOW IT'S LAID OUT. IT'S A MUCH CLEARER PROVISION THAN THE ORIGINAL PROVISION IN THE ORDINANCE. NOW, THIS IS THE LANGUAGE SHOULD YOU DECIDE THE COMPROMISES THAT THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT HAD MADE. THIS IS THE LANGUAGE WE ARE ASKING YOU TO ADOPT AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE AS AMENDMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE AND CLARIFICATION TO THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL ON SECOND READING. MY SUGGESTION AT THIS POINT IS THAT YOU CAN HANDLE THIS ONE OF TWO WAYS. AND THE REASON WHY I'M KIND OF LAYING THIS OUT IN ALTERNATIVES IS REMEMBER THAT YOU'VE GOT TO ANNEX THIS STUFF BEFORE YOU CAN ZONE IT. YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS THE LANGUAGE, DISCUSS THE COMPROMISES THAT HAVE BEEN REACHED. WE'LL TRY AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, BUT WHAT I WILL ASK YOU TO DO IS BEFORE A FINAL VOTE IS TAKEN ON THE LANGUAGE THAT IF YOU BELIEVE THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO ANNEX THIS TRACT AND TO ZONE IT THAT WE DO THE ANNEXATIONS FIRST. AND ITEM 42 AND ITEM 43 ARE YOUR ANNEXATION ITEMS. THEY INCLUDE BOTH THE FINAL READINGS ON THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE AND THE REGULATORY PLANS. SO WITH THAT I WILL LAY IT ALL OUT. AND AS YOU DECIDE TO PROCEED TO THE VOTES, I WILL HELP YOU AGAIN WITH THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE LAID OUT FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU, MS. TERRY. WHY DON'T WE START WITH QUESTIONS FOR MS. TERRY FROM COUNCILMEMBERS. ANYBODY?

ALVAREZ: MAYOR?

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ?

ALVAREZ: YES, IS 28TH THE ZONING ITEM, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO?

MAYOR GARCIA: 28 IS THE ZONING ITEM. AND 42 AND 43 ARE THE ANNEXATION ITEMS. ACTUALLY, 43 IS TO ADOPT THE PLAN FOR THE WILD HORSE RANCH?

EXCUSE ME, MAYOR, I APOLOGIZE. THERE ARE SOME CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS ON ITEMS 42 AND 43 AS TO ACREAGE.

MAYOR GARCIA: RIGHT. 42 IS CORRECT. 43 CHANGES FROM 1819 TO 1957. AND WE HAVE ALREADY READ THOSE CHANGES INTO THE RECORD. IS THERE A FURTHER CORRECTION? SO ON ITEM -- .

THE APPLICANT HAS ASSISTED ME.

WE'RE ANNEXING 1957 ACRES, THE LEAST I HOPE WE ARE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE FIELD NOTES SAY.

MAYOR GARCIA: THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ON ITEM 42. AND THEN WE READ INTO THE RECORD ON ITEM 43 A CHANGE FROM 18.99 TO 19.57. IS THAT CORRECT?

YES, SIR. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE AREA REQUESTED FOR ANNEXATION AND THE AREA THAT THEY OWN WERE ALSO ANNEXING RIGHT-OF-WAY. SO THE CORRECT NUMBER IS 19.57.

MAYOR GARCIA: GOT IT.

ALVAREZ: YES, IN THE BACKUP WE HAVE A MAP THAT OUTLINES THE TRACTS AND I GUESS WE'RE DEFINING THE PARAMETERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. IS THERE A MAP THAT SHOWS HOW IT WILL BE LAID OUT?

YES. WE HAVE A LARGE PRESENTATION MAP. THIS IS THE LAND USE MAP. IT SHOWS ALL THE TRACTS HERE.

SUSAN, CAN YOU GET THE HAND MIC?

OKAY. THIS IS THE LAND USE MAP WHICH SHOWS OVER HERE IS D-11, WHICH IS THE GREENBELT PARK TRACT THAT ACTUALLY HAS A LOT BIT OF -- A LITTLE BIT OF FRONTAGE HERE ON SH 130. THE MIXED USE CENTER WE'RE DISCUSSING IS RIGHT HERE. IT'S THREE PARCELS SEPARATED BY PARMER LANE AND AN INTERNAL STREET. THIS IS COMMERCIAL AND HOTEL COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL RIGHT AROUND PARMER AND SH 130. THEY HAVE A RECREATION GOLF RESERVE TRACT. ONE OF THE INNOVATIVE THINGS THEY'RE DOING IS THE MIXED -- DO YOU WANT ME TO USE THAT ONE? OKAY. MAYBE I WON'T HAVE TO TALK SO MUCH BECAUSE THE COLORS WILL SORT OF SPEAK FOR YOU. BUT JUST TO MENTION THAT THE LIGHT ORANGE, THE MIXED DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, THOSE ARE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE SET A MINIMUM FIVE PERCENT, MAXIMUM 10% RETAIL AREA. 20% OF THE AREA MUST BE OTHER THAN SINGLE-FAMILY. AND THEN THE REST COULD BE SOME FORM OF SINGLE-FAMILY, WHICH THE REASON FOR THOSE LIMITS IS TO ENSURE A DIFFERENT HOUSING MIX, NOT JUST TO HAVE SUBURBAN, SINGLE INCOME LEVEL TYPE HOUSING ON THE ENTIRE TRACT AND TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE SMART GROWTH PRINCIPLES WITH SOME COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA. SO THOSE ARE FOR THE C-3, B-2, B-1, THE MIXED DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS. I GUESS NOT ALL THE ORNTIONS ARE THE SAME BECAUSE THIS IS AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER.

ALVAREZ: WHICH ONES ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE REMOVING THE LIMITATIONS AT 20% AND THERE'S A FIVE%?

THOSE ARE THE MIXED DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS. SO IT'S THIS TRACT, THIS TRACT, THIS TRACT, THIS TRACT, THIS TRACT, THIS TRACT. I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT. AND THIS TRACT OVER HERE. THIS IS COMMERCIAL UP HERE, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL MODE RIGHT HERE AND THEN THERE IS THE GOLF COURSE AND A GREENBELT AND THEN THE REST ON THE -- .

ALVAREZ: THAT'S FINE. I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE HAD THIS DESIGNATED AS SUCH AND AN APPLICANT COULD PROVIDE MY OFFICE A COPY OR STAFF OR WHOEVER HAS SOME OF THESE USES.

I BELIEVE THERE IS THE EIGHT AND A HALF BY 11 AND A COPY TO YOUR BACKUP.

ALVAREZ: I DON'T SEE IT AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. THAT'S ALL, MAYOR.

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER?

FOR THE RECORD, I'M PETE DWYER. HE'S GOING TO GO GOING OUT TO GET THE COLOR COPS RIGHT NOW.

MAYOR GARCIA: QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

WYNN: ON THAT DIAGRAM, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS 150 FEET?

NO. I BELIEVE -- I'M NOT SURE OF THE STREET TABLE. PERHAPS MR. ZAPALAC KNOWS OFFHAND. I'M SURE IT'S SOMEWHERE LIKE 300 OR 400.

COUNCILMEMBER, I BELIEVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS ABOUT 400 FEET MINIMUM, PERHAPS WIDER. THE FINAL DESIGN HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET, BUT NORMALLY THE STATE TRIES TO GET AT LEAST 400 FEET FOR A MAJOR FACILITY LIKE THAT.

WYNN: RIGHT. BUT I GUESS IN THESE ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS ABOUT SH 130 WHERE THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER IS TRADING WHAT APPEARS TO BE ABOUT 75 FEET OF DEDICATED RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR HIS ABILITY TO DESIGN FRONTAGE ROADS AND ENTRANCE RAMPS IF IN FACT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS GOING TO BE 400 FEET OR SO, I THINK THAT'S PORTRAYED.

THAT'S THE MAXIMUM THAT OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES A DEVELOPER TO DEDICATE WITHOUT COMPENSATION. NORMALLY THE DEDICATION OF 150 FEET WOULD BE REQUIRED AND ANY BEYOND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PURCHASED. SO THAT IS THE NORMAL AMOUNT THAT THE ORDINANCE WOULD ALLOW FOR US TO REQUIRE TO BE DEDICATED.

WYNN: SO YOU'RE SAYING SOMEHOW OUR ORDINANCE RESTRICTS THE PROPERTY OWNER FROM DEDICATING ALL OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR SH 130.

IT DOESN'T PREVENT HIM FROM DOING IT, BUT IT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO REQUIRE HIM TO DO IT.

WYNN: OKAY. AS I READ THIS, AS PART OF HIS POTENTIAL DEDICATION OF I GUESS A FRACTION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, FOR THAT HE'S RESERVING THE RIGHT TO DESIGN -- TO DECLARE WHETHER OR NOT THIS 90-MILE INTERSTATE HIGHWAY HAS PROJECT ROADS?

NO. THE DESIGN WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE STATE, BY THE TURNPIKE AUTHORITY. AND THEY WILL EITHER DECIDE TO INCLUDE PROJECT ROADS OR NOT. WHAT IS IN THE COORDINATES IS IN THE HIGHWAY INCLUDES FRONTAGE ROADS, THEN THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DEDICATE THE LAND, 150 FEET WIDE ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROADS. IF IT DOES NOT INCLUDE FRONTAGE ROADS, THEN HE WOULD ONLY HAVE TO DEDICATE LAND NEAR THE INTERCHANGES WITH OTHER ROADS.

WYNN: OKAY.

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCIL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD DO SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS ITEM 28, WHICH IS THE ORDINANCE AND THEN THE ZONING, IS TO PASS ITEMS 42 AND 43, WHICH ARE THE ANNEXATION ITEMS, THE ORDINANCES THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA FOR SEC AND THIRD READING, SO WHY DON'T I ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEMS 42 AND 43 AND THAT WAY WE CAN COMPLETE THAT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE OTHER ONE. BUT WE HAVE TO ANNEX THIS FIRST BEFORE WE DO THE ZONING.

GRIFFITH: I MOVE APPROVAL.

MAYOR GARCIA: MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH. SECONDED BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM. COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

WYNN: MAYOR, IN MY QUESTIONS, I ASKED QUESTION OF STAFF OF WHAT'S THE -- OUR AGENDA SAID THAT THERE'S NO PHYSICAL IMPACT TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION OF IF WE ANNEX THIS PROPERTY, WHO HAS TO PAY FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE ANSWER I WAS GIVEN WAS THE CITY AND IT WILL COST US 30 MILLION DOLLARS. AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION -- AND IT WASN'T CERTAIN TO ME IF THAT'S BECAUSE OF LIMITED ANNEXATION OR FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S THIS VERY DETAILED AND COMPLEX ISSUE ABOUT SH 130, SO WITH THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE DESIGN OF THE PRODUCT ITSELF, WHETHER IT WILL BE A SCENIC PARKWAY OR WHETHER IT WILL HAVE FRONTAGE ROADS, ETCETERA, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THE ANSWER I GOT, IF WE ANNEX THIS PROPERTY, WE'VE JUST SAT ON OURSELVES WITH A 30-MILLION-DOLLAR PRICE TAG.

WELL, IF WE ANNEX FOR LIMITED OR FULL PURPOSES, THE STATE WILL BE EXPECTED US TO BUY THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE 30-MILLION-DOLLAR NUMBER -- THE NUMBER WE GOT FROM TXDOT BACK IN JULY ACTUALLY WAS SIX MILLION. AND WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK AND WE'LL BE VISITING WITH THEM ABOUT THE NUMBER. THIS 30 MILLION NUMBER ACTUALLY WAS SOME WILD ESTIMATE. THE NUMBER COULD ESTIMATE FROM SIX, WHICH THEY TOLD US IN JULY. SUPPOSE OUT TO SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD BE LESS THAN THAT. WE REALLY HAVE A FIRM NUMBER WITH TXDOT UNTIL THEY START CALCULATING THINGS. BACK IN JULY THE NUMBER WE GOT WAS SIX AND I THINK LOGICALLY WE COULD DO YOU BELIEVE THAT. BUT WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE VISIT WITH THEM AND THEY ACTUALLY DO SOME MORE WORK. BUT 30 MILLION, I THINK THAT IS -- I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH OUT THERE.

WYNN: OKAY. BUT CERTAINLY EIGHT FIGURES. SO WHEN THE FISCAL NOTE ON OUR AGENDA SAYS NO FISCAL IMPACT, YET NOW WHEN WE ASK THE QUESTION WE'RE TOLD SIX ON THE LOW END, MAYBE 12 ON THE HIGH END, YOU KNOW, IT BEGS THE QUESTION, WHY WOULD WE WANT TO ANNEX SOMETHING JUST IN TIME FOR A STATE HIGHWAY TO GET BUILT FOR US TO PAY SIX TO 12 MILLION DOLLARS?

WELL, YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY WROTE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT THE OTHER DAY. AND THAT'S JUST A BUSINESS DECISION. AND THERE IS A COST. AND THAT SIX-MILLION-DOLLAR RANGE, THE FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS IS ONE NUMBER AND THEN AT 12 IT BEGINS TO LOOK -- TO GET SKINNIER. WIN THE FOLLOW-UP TO THAT WOULD BE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE ANNEXED IT, IT THEN BURDENS US WITH THE RIGHT-OF-WAY COST, THEN WE ZONE IT. RIGHT NOW IT HAS NO ZONING, HAS NO SERVICE, SO IF WE VOTE TO DO ALL THAT, IT SEEMS TO ME IT PROBABLY RAISES THE PRICE FROM THE SIX TO MULTIPLES OF SIX. SO BY -- I GUESS I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS PLAN FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT OF WHY NOT WAIT UNTIL SH 130 RIGHT-OF-WAY GETS PURCHASED.

I GUESS I SHOULD POINT OUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS IN PLAY. THESE FOLKS WILL HAVE AN SCR, SO THEY WILL BE WATER AND SEWER THERE. WE'RE GOING TO -- HAVING DONE THAT, HAVING MADE THAT DECISION, WE WANT TO CONTROL LAND USE OF THAT AREA AND THE ONLY WAY TO CONTROL LAND USE OF THAT AREA IS TO ANNEX IT. AND THAT'S -- THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT.

WYNN: YOU ALWAYS HEAR ISSUES ABOUT PEOPLE COMPLAINING THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN TRIES TO SORT OF DEVALUE THEIR PROPERTY JUST BEFORE THEY TRY TO BUY IT FOR WATER PROTECTION RIGHTS. IT SEEMS TO ME WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO IS ABOUT TO POSITIVE BY 10 FOLD INCREASE THE PRICE OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF OUR ANNEXATION TO THEN BE BURDENED WITH THE COST TO PURCHASE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR SH 130. SEEING HOW THE DEVELOPER WON'T DONATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, FROM A DESIGN PARAMETERS THAT HE'S BUILT INTO THE AGREEMENT. THAT'S JUST ME.

SLUSHER: MAYOR? MAYOR, COULD WE GET -- MR. STEVENS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE FINANCIAL QUESTIONS THAT MR. WYNN BROUGHT UP?

GOODMAN: OKAY. MR. STEVENS, THE ECONOMIC PRUDENCE OF CONTROLLING THIS LAND AND THE COST TO IT THAT MAY SEEM ON THE SERVICE TOO LARGE IS AT ISSUE.

WELL, AS MR. LUKAN SAYS, THERE ARE SOMETIMES REASONS OTHER THAN FINANCIAL REASONS WHY YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO AN ANNEXATION LIKE THIS. MY OFFICE DOES -- WHEN WE DO A LARGE ANNEXATION, MY OFFICE DOES HAVE A FINANCIAL MODEL WHICH WE USE TO SORT OF ESTIMATE WHAT THE COST OF PROVIDING SERVICE TO THE AREA WOULD BE AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL REVENUES THAT WOULD COME IN FROM THE ANNEXATION MIGHT BE. WE DID A MODEL LIKE THAT ON WILD HORSE AND I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DETAIL ON IT, BUT WE TYPICALLY LOOK OUT OVER A 25-YEAR PERIOD AND TRY TO PROJECT WHETHER THE ANNEXATION OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME WILL BE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT THE NUMBER THAT WE CAME UP WITH WAS THAT IT WOULD HAVE A POSITIVE EFFECT ON THIS OF ABOUT 18 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUND.

SLUSHER: DOES THAT INCLUDE THE COST OF PURCHASING RIGHT-OF-WAY?

THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE COST OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. SO THAT NUMBER WOULD HAVE TO BE FACTORED IN THERE.

GOODMAN: COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH?

GRIFFITH: YES. WHY WAS THE COST OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY NOT INCLUDED IN THE ALL-FUNDS ANALYSIS.

AGAIN, AS MR. LUKAN SAID, WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD ESTIMATE FOR THAT.

GRIFFITH: SO YOU JUST LEFT IT OUT.

WE HAVE A BETTER ESTIMATE FOR SERVICES THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE AND THE REVENUES THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE.

GRIFFITH: BUT THERE'S A REAL THING. SO YOU DIDN'T EVEN ESTIMATE WHAT IT MIGHT BE?

MR. LUKAN HAS CORRECTED ME. AT THE TIME WE THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO DEDICATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

GRIFFITH: SO IT'S 18 MILLION POSITIVE OVER 25 YEARS, PRESUMING THAT ALL THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS DEDICATED?

YES, MA'AM.

GRIFFITH: THANKS.

GOODMAN: WELL, COUNCIL, I'LL STEP IN HERE A LITTLE BIT IN THAT THE ALIGNMENT -- .

THE ALIGNMENT AND PRESENCE OF 130 WAS AN ISSUE FOR ALL OF US BECAUSE THIS STARTED BEFORE THIS PROJECT AND WORKING WITH THE CITY STARTED BEFORE THERE WAS AN ABSOLUTE ALIGNMENT FOR 130 AND THE PROJECT THEN WAS IMPACTED BY THE NEED FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY. AND THE OTHER ISSUE THAT MAY HAVE SOME IMPACT HERE IS THAT GOVERNOR'S PERRY'S PLAN PLAN DOES NOT HAVE 130 HERE. SO FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, THE PRESENCE OF 130 WAS A NEGATIVE PRESENCE. IT WAS NOT DESIGNED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OR TO TO HAVE THE KIND OF LAND USE THAT 130 PRESUMES OR THAT WOULD PRESUME. SO ALL THOSE ISSUES CAME INTO IT AND ARE NOW SOMETHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE DEVELOPER. LET ME SAY IF I WERE THE PROPERTY OWNER AND HAD INVESTED IN WHAT IS REALLY A VERY NEOTRADITIONAL IN THE BEST SENSE PLANNING OUT THERE AND THEN 130 JUST SORT OF SHOT THROUGH THE EDGES AND CHANGED THE WAY SOME THINGS HAD TO BE LOOKED AT, THEN I COULD MAYBE UNDERSTAND WHY ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER WOULDN'T BE ALL THAT THRILLED IN JUMPING FORWARD WITH OFFERS OF RIGHT-OF-WAY. BUT I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME TO LOGGERHEADS ON OUR ALWAYS WANTING DEVELOPERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS TO GIVE US THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY. AND SOMETIMES IT WAS A SHOT OUT OF THE BLUE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY FEELING LIKE THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO GIVE THAT MUCH RIGHT-OF-WAY. SO SINCE THERE ARE THINGS WORKED OUT NOW BECAUSE OF A STAFF THAT WORKED VERY HARD WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, THEN IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE MOST OF THOSE ISSUES ARE PRETTY MUCH SETTLED DOWN NOW, WORKABLE, BUT STILL WE OUGHT TO REMEMBER THAT 130 WAS DROPPED IN THERE AFTER THE DESIGN WAS PRETTY FAR ALONG, IF NOT FINISHED, AND THAT NOW GOVERNOR PERRY'S PLANS FOR 130 WOULD PULL IT RIGHT BACK OUT AGAIN. SO IT'S NOT A FINITE THING. NOT AT THIS MOMENT, THE 130 ISSUE. AND THAT'S VERY SIMPLISTIC NUTSHELL OF WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING. I'M APOLOGIZING FOR A LOT THAT I JUST SKIPPED RIGHT OVER. SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND, WHICH WAS TO APPROVE ITEMS NUMBERS 42 AND 43. AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE, MAYOR. WE'VE BEEN CONVERSING. WE HAVEN'T GONE TO THE VOTE YET.

WYNN: MAYOR?

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

WYNN: QUESTION FOR MR. LUKAN. THERE HE IS.

MAYOR GARCIA: AND WOULD IT BE A GOOD IDEA FOR YOU TO COME SIT OVER HERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING YOU BACK ALL THE TIME? THERE'S A CHAIR AND A MIC RIGHT HERE.

YES, SIR?

WYNN: OFTEN TIMES ON THE ANNEXATION ISSUES, THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC TIMING PARAMETERS. CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ANNEXATION? WHAT'S THE TIMING ISSUES YOU'RE UP AGAINST? IF WE SAY NO TONIGHT, WE CAN NEVER EVER ANNEX THIS PROPERTY AGAIN.

IF WE GO AHEAD AND DON'T ANNEX TODAY, THEN WE'LL SIMPLY RESTART THE PROCESS. WE CAN BE RIGHT BACK HERE AGAIN IN 75 DAYS.

WYNN: THAT'S A MUCH BETTER ANSWER THAN THIS IS IT.

WE CAN BE BACK HERE ON MAY 9TH, I BELIEVE.

WYNN: THEN I'M VOTING AGAINST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. -- AGAINST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH?

GRIFFITH: YES, MR. LUKAN, YOU SAID THE ALL FUNDS IS 18 MILLION OVER 25 YEARS, PRESUMING THAT THERE'S NO RIGHT-OF-WAY COSTS ON THE PART OF THE CITY?

THAT'S CORRECT.

GRIFFITH: AND YOU'RE PRESUMING THEN THAT ALL THE RIGHT-OF-WAY EXPENSE WOULD BE BORNE BY THE DEVELOPER.

WHEN WE DID THAT AT THE TIME, THAT'S WHAT WE ASSUMED. THEN AS WE MOVED ALONG FURTHER AND WE DISCOVERED THAT WASN'T THE CASE, IT WAS VARIOUS OTHER SCENARIOS TO SEE AT WHAT POINT PURCHASING RIGHT-OF-WAY WOULD DO TO THE NUMBERS.

GRIFFITH: DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT WOULD DO TO THE NUMBERS NOW?

AT SOME POINT IT WOULD START -- IT'S A BREAK POINT WHEN IT BEGINS TO MAKE IT A NEGATIVE NUMBER.

GRIFFITH: SO YOU WOULD SUBTRACT RIGHT NOW OUR ESTIMATES ARE YOU WOULD SUBTRACT SIX TO 12 MILLION, SO YOU WOULD HAVE A PRETTY LEAN -- .

I THINK IT'S THAT RANGE. NOT MONETIZING, IT WOULD STILL WORK IN GETTING TO THE RANGE YOU DESCRIBE.

MAYOR GARCIA: I WASN'T HERE WHEN THE MOTION WAS MADE, SO COULD SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT THE MOTION IS?

GRIFFITH: YES. THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE ANNEXATION. WITH APPARENTLY A SLIGHT, BUT A POSITIVE ALL FUNDS ANALYSIS OVER 25 YEARS.

MAYOR GARCIA: AND THAT'S CONSIDERING THE EXPENSES THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE ON ANNEXED AREAS?

CORRECT. THAT'S THE STANDARD KIND OF MODEL WE USE TO APPLY TO THIS AREA WHICH GOES OUT OF ASSUMPTIONS WE MADE, WHICH ARE NOT AS AGGRESSIVE AS THE DEVELOPER'S, AND WE END UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS.

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, YOUR COMMENTS HAVE TO DO WITH THE BELIEF THAT WE IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME, SHOULD WE NOT ANNEX IT TODAY AND NOT DO THE ZONING THAT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE PROCESS WOULD START?

WYNN: I THINK THE FACT THAT SOME OF THIS WAS BEING NEGOTIATED 30 MINUTES PRIOR TO STAFF PRESENTING IT TO US, THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE AND THERE ARE STILL SOME MOVING PARTS. PERSONALLY I HAPPEN TO BE TROUBLED BY THE SH 130 ISSUE ON SEVERAL FRONTS. AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THE DEVELOPER DIDN'T ASK FOR SH 130 TO BE RUN THROUGH HIS PROPERTY. OTHERWISE I HAPPEN TO BELIEVE THAT THE PLAN IS VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN, BUT FOR ONE, FOR JUST THE COMPLEXITY OF SH 130, THE COMPLEXITY OF THE DESIGN OF SH 130, THAT IS THE WHOLE DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER IT WILL HAVE FRONTAGE ROADS, WHETHER IT WON'T, THE ENTIRE LENGTH, WHETHER IT WON'T BE, WHAT TYPE OF LIMITED ACCESS, WHAT WILL BE THE PRODUCT, HOW DOES THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL PLAY INTO IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY COMPLEX AND TO SOME DEGREE WE'RE MAKING SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS TODAY, IT SEEMS TO ME, AND/OR WE'RE LIMITING OUR FLEXIBILITY TO THE CITY. WE MAY END UP NOT HAVING MUCH INPUT IN THAT PROCESS ANYWAY, BUT I THINK WE'RE PLIMENTING OUR FLEXIBILITY AND I AM TROUBLED BY THE PIECE OF THE ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS THAT ADDITIONALLY GIVE THE LANDOWNER A SEAT AT THE DESIGN TABLE ON WHAT OTHERWISE IS SIMPLY AN INTERNATIONAL HIGHWAY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 90 MILES OF SH 130 FROM SEGUIN TO GEORGETOWN, YOU KNOW, MY -- IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME THAT THIS IS PERHAPS THE LARGEST SINGLE PIECE OF RIGHT-OF-WAY PURCHASE IN THAT ENTIRE STRETCH. THIS IS A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND -- I'M JUST TROUBLED BY SEVERAL PIECES OF THE COMPLEXITY OF IT.

MAYOR GARCIA: BESIDES THE HIGHWAY BEING 90 MILES, POTENTIALLY TO COULD BE MUCH SHORTER THAN THAT IF SH 45 COMES IN AND THEN GOES INTO I-35. THEN THERE'S THE PROPOSAL TO THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION TO DO SH 130 IN A SHORTER TIME FRAME. AND I HAVE SEEN A LETTER SIGNED BY JUDGE DUERFLUR AND A JUDGE FROM TRAVIS COUNTY OFFERING 150 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE PURCHASE OF RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE CITY IS PUTTING IN 50 MILLION OF THAT FOR THE WHOLE SH 130. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION IS GOING TO DO ON THAT. SO I WOULD SUSPECT THAT THE COUNCIL OUGHT TO CONSIDER NOT ANNEXING THEM AT THIS TIME AND HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO WORK OUT THE ARRANGEMENTS. LIKE COUNCILMEMBER WYNN SAYS, WE WORKED THIS OUT IN THE LAST 30 MINUTES, CONNIE PUT THE FINISHING TOUCHES ON THIS, AND I'M NOT SURE -- I FOR ONE, I'M NOT SURE THAT I'M READY TO VOTE ON THIS ONE AT THIS POINT FOR ANNEXATION. SO I WISH -- MY WISH IS THAT WE COULD DO IT AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO COMMENT ON IT. YOU CAN COME TO THE MIC, IF YOU DO. MAYOR PRO TEM?

GOODMAN: I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, AS FAR AS I KNEW ON OUR AGENDA, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF ABOUT, BUT FIRST OF ALL THE POSTING IS FOR SECOND AND THIRD READ. COULDN'T WE DO SECOND READING AND NOT STOP THE WHOLE PROCESS?

MAYOR GARCIA: I THINK THE PROCESS IS SUCH THAT WE HAVE TO DO BOTH. SOMETHING ABOUT THE ANNEXATION RULES. MR. DWYER?

MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS PETE DWYER, THE APPLICANT FOR WILD HORSE. OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE HEARTBREAKING IF WE DIDN'T FINISH THIS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AND THERE'S A FEW THINGS I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SAY. THERE ARE AND IT MAY HELP YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION, SOME POSITIVE ATTRIBUTES ABOUT MOVING FORWARD ON THIS PROJECT. FIRST OF ALL, THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL ESTABLISHED A DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE CONCEPT, AND A LOT OF THE DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS IN THIS CITY AND THIS REGION, I THINK THAT WAS A VERY LAUDABLE DECISION BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT DEVELOPMENT TO AN AREA WHERE DEVELOPMENT IS MORE APPROPRIATE. AS WITH OUR AIRPORT, WE'VE MADE A DECISION AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH INFRASTRUCTURE UP TO IT. AND THE PREVIOUS LAYERINGS OF THE AGREEMENTS IN THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TAKEN WITH REGARD TO WILD HORSE AND THE PROVISION OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER CIP I THINK HAVE HEADED US IN THAT DIRECTION. WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT OUT TO THIS AREA. AND AGAIN, SH 130 WAS NOT OUR IDEA, IT'S NOT OUR ROAD. WE DO THINK IT BRINGS A LOT OF ECONOMIC VITALITY TO THAT SIDE OF TOWN. BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE 25.5-MILLION-DOLLAR WATER AND WASTEWATER CIP, THE WAY THAT THE MECHANISM HAS BEEN SET UP, WE WILL GO BUILD THOSE FACILITIES AT VERY LOW RISK TO THE CITY. WE WILL BEGIN TO BRING THE INFRASTRUCTURE OUT. SO I THINK IT'S A LITTLE UNFAIR, IF YOU WILL. MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE BEST TERM FOR IT, TO JUST LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF WILD HORSE ALONE. THE 18 MILLION I THINK NEEDS TO ALSO BE AUGMENTED WITH THE FACT THAT THE 171 ACRES OF PARKLAND DEDICATION, YOU MAY REMEMBER WE HAD MR. GREASEMAN HERE FROM TRAVIS COUNTY. THAT PARKLAND HAD A VALUE IN EXCESS OF THREE MILLION DOLLARS. SO YOU'RE DRAKING THREE MILLION DOLLARS IN PARKLAND ACQUISITION. THE SOFT COSTS THAT WE DO NOT GET REIMBURSED FOR ON THE 25.5-MILLION-DOLLAR CIP ARE ENGINEERING AT 15% OR 3.8 MILLION DOLLARS, PLUS EASEMENTS AND LAND SITE VALUE VALUED AT OVER ANOTHER ONE MILLION DOLLARS. SO THAT'S ALMOST FIVE MILLION DOLLARS IN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT THAT'S NOT ON THAT 18-MILLION-DOLLAR ANALYSIS. IN ADDITION, SINCE THE AUSTIN ENERGY AND AUSTIN WATER AND WASTEWATER, WHICH WOULD SERVE YOU AND THESE FUTURE RESIDENTS, ARE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, MOST OF THE COMMERCIAL USES WILL BE OPERATED AT A PROFIT TO THOSE TWO ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND THEY'LL GENERATE ADDITIONAL TAX BASE AND CUSTOMERS, PLUS IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATIONS THAT WE DO USE, LIKE PARMER LANE, WE HAVE ESTIMATED THAT WE WILL CONTRIBUTE AND DONATE THREE TO FOUR MILLION DOLLARS IN THE -- AND THE MAXIMUM DEDICATION THAT WE CAN MAKE ON SH 130 WE VALUE IS 30% OF WHATEVER NUMBER YOU'RE THINKING YOU MAY END UP BEING COSTS ON THAT. SO WE'VE DONE THE NUMBERS, WE THINK IT'S STILL A VERY VIABLE PROJECT. WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD ON IT BECAUSE THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS A JUMPSTART, A HUGE ECONOMIC JUMPSTART TO THIS WHOLE REGION OF AUSTIN IN THE DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE. AND I THINK THAT THE RIPPLE EFFECT THAT THAT WOULD HAVE AND THE SINGLE THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THAT AREA IS REALLY GOING TO BE A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN. SO WE WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO POSTPONE AND TO TRY TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS AND NOT BREAK EVERYBODY'S HEARTS THAT HAVE WORKED SO HARD ON IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GRIFFITH: MAYOR?

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU, MR. DWYER. FURTHER QUESTIONS?

GRIFFITH: YES, SIR. MR. LUKAN, WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT MR. DWYER TALKED ABOUT THAT'S NOT IN YOUR ALL FUNDS ANALYSIS? DID YOU FIGURE EVERY TIME OF INCOME?

RIGHT.

GRIFFITH: SO EVERYTHING HE TALKED ABOUT IS ALREADY FIGURED IN TO THE 18 MILLION POSITIVE MINUS WHAT WE SPEND ON SH 130 RIGHT-OF-WAY?

WELL, WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITY, THAT'S PART OF -- .

GRIFFITH: IT'S IN THERE?

THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THE VARIOUS OTHER ENTERPRISES ARE SELF-SUPPORTING.

MAYOR GARCIA: COULD YOU BRING THE MIC CLOSER TO YOU?

THE WATER AND WASTEWATER WAS INCLUDED IN THERE AND ALL OF THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE INCLUDED AND ALL THE REVENUES FROM WATER AND WASTEWATER, BUT THE SUMS FOR THE OTHER ENTERPRISE FUNDS IS THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE SELF-SUPPORTING AND DON'T IMPACT THE GENERAL FUND ANALYSIS. SO IT'S -- BUT THIS 18 MILLION WAS AN ALL-FUNDS -- WELL, ACTUALLY, THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT, THE ALL-FUNDS IS.. IS -- WELL, THIS IS OUR GENERAL FUND ANALYSIS.

GRIFFITH: WHAT ABOUT ENTERPRISE AND GENERAL FUNDS? THAT'S WHAT I CALL ALL FUNDS IS BOTH OF THEM PUT TOGETHER, THE ENTERPRISE AND THE GENERAL. HAVE WE GOT THAT?

I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. BUT THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE SELF-SUPPORTING AND SEEM TO BALANCE. THE WATER AND WASTEWATER WAS -- AND I DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT THAT WAS POSITIVE OR WE WOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT -- THAT WOULDN'T HAVE COME FORWARD ON ITS OWN. THAT ALMOST CAN BE LOOKED AT AS A SEPARATE MATTER. LET ME GO BACK AND -- .

GRIFFITH: LET ME ASK YOU ONE MORE THING. THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S GOING TO GO FROM TOWN OUT TO THE DEVELOPMENT, HOW IS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE GOING TO BE PAID FOR?

YOU MEAN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER?

GRIFFITH: YES.

PART OF THE REIMBURSEMENT CONTRACT WITH THE DEVELOPER.

GRIFFITH: SO WHO WOULD REIMBURSE WHOM?

THE CITY REIMBURSES THE DEVELOPER FOR THE OVERSIZING OF THE FACILITY.

GRIFFITH: SO THAT'S A WASH?

WE MAKE MONEY ON THAT.

GRIFFITH: OKAY. THE THING THAT'S ATTRACTIVE ABOUT THIS IS IT RUNS INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGH A LOT OF LAND THAT WOULD BE VERY POSITIVE TO SEE TWO DEVELOPED IN TERMS OF HOMES AND BUSINESSES. AND THAT MAKES IT VERY ATTRACTIVE BECAUSE THE ABSENCE OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS I THINK WHAT HAS HELD BACK THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LAND BETWEEN TOWN AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE WILD HORSE. SO I FEEL LIKE IF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE GOES THROUGH THAT LAND, IT WILL HAVE A LOT BETTER SHOT AT GETTING DEVELOPED, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A POSITIVE ALL THE WAY AROUND. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS INTERESTED IN THE ANNEXATION.

COUNCILMEMBER, TO ANSWER YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBERS THAT MR. DWYER MENTIONED, THE VALUE OF THE PARKLAND, FOR EXAMPLE, THOSE WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THAT 18-MILLION-DOLLAR NUMBER.

MAYOR GARCIA: THOSE ARE NOT PART OF THE ALL FUNDS ANALYSIS, CORRECT?

THAT'S CORRECT. WE DO THAT MORE ON A CASH BASIS, CASH REVENUES THAT COME IN AND CASH EXPENSES.

SLUSHER: MAYOR?

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER?

SLUSHER: MR. STEVENS, SO THE NUMBERS MR. DWYER ROLLED OFF ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE ANNEXATION, CASH FLOW ANALYSIS, BUT DO YOU AGREE WITH THOSE FIGURES THAT HE GAVE?

I DON'T HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE TO DISPUTE THOSE FIGURES, COUNCILMEMBER, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO VERIFY THEM ALSO.

COUNCILMEMBER, IF I COULD JUST POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN THE ETJ, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THERE DWYER WAS TALKING ABOUT THE NET AMOUNT OF GENERAL REVENUE.

SLUSHER: WERE THEY EXCEEDING THAT OR IS THIS WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THE PARKLAND?

I BELIEVE THEY'RE EXCEEDING IT. THEY'RE EXCEEDING THEIR PARKLAND REQUIREMENT BY 37 ACRES.

SLUSHER: THEY'RE EXCEEDING BY 37. HOW MUCH IS THE REQUIREMENTS? SO ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 50% MORE?

AND SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE ABILITY TO ACQUIRE SOME OF THE THREE-MILLION-DOLLAR PARK PIECE THROUGH THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE OR AS MR. DWYER WAS TALKING ABOUT, OVER AND ABOVE THE DEDICATION REQUEST.

SLUSHER: DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT?

WE VALUED OFF ALL PARKLAND IN AT THREE MILLION, SO I WOULDN'T TELL YOU HOW IT'S SPLIT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE SUM OF THE NUMBERS THAT ARE ON OUR TALLY SHEET IS AN EXTRA 12 MILLION THAT MY ARGUMENT, RVEG, IS THAT THAT 12 MILLION GOES ON TOP OF THE 18 MILLION IN BENEFIT, AND IT DRAGS THE INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE SO THAT ALL OF THE THEN SUBSEQUENT USERS THAT BECOME CITY CUSTOMERS SHOULD IN MY BOOK BE ADDED ON AS NET GAIN REVENUE.

SLUSHER: GO THROUGH THE 12 AGAIN REAL QUICKLY.

APPROXIMATELY THREE MILLION PARKLAND. DRAGGING OUT THE 25.5 MILLION AT A VERY LOW RISK MECHANISM WITH APPROXIMATELY FIVE MILLION SOFT COSTS THAT WE DON'T GET REIMBURSED. SOFT COSTS AND EASEMENT AND SITE, THE ACTUALLY SITE FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND APPROXIMATELY FOUR MILLION DOLLARS FOR OTHER RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO DEDICATE, FOR EXAMPLE, PARMER.

[ONE MOMENT, PLEASE, WHILE CAPTIONERS CHANGE]

SLUSHER: LEADING UP TO 2006 WERE WE NEGATIVE --

SLIGHTLY NEGATIVE. 2003 IS MINUS 22,000. 2004 IS A MINUS 77,000. 2005 IS A MINUS 26,000.

WHAT DID YOU SAY THE FIRST YEAR, 20 SOMETHING?

22,000.

SLUSHER: ABOUT THREE YEARS TO -- TO WIPE OUT THAT ORIGINAL DEFICIT?

THAT IS CORRECT.

SLUSHER: THAT IS POSITIVE AND THEN IT HEADS UP TO 18 MILLION AFTER 25 YEARS, NOT COUNTING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, FOR 130.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SLUSHER: OKAY. OKAY. I WILL YIELD.

MAYOR GARCIA: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

ALVAREZ: MAYOR?

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ?

ALVAREZ: YEAH, MAYOR, I'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS FOR A WHILE NOW. AND I APPRECIATE THE GOOD DISCUSSION. AND -- AND I THINK JUST WHAT -- WEIGHING ALL OF THE ISSUES IN TERMS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND -- AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT OUR OBLIGATIONS ARE AND WHAT THE COMMITMENTS ARE AND THE -- ON THE PART OF THE APPLICANT, AND ALSO WHERE THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS IN -- IN RELATION TO THE CITY, YOU KNOW, IN THE -- IN THE EASTERN PARTED....... PART OF TOWN, EAST OF WALTER E. LONG LAKE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK GIVEN ALL OF WHAT WE HAVE HEARD, ALL OF THE PROS AND CONS, I THINK THAT THE NET BENEFIT TO THE CITY IS MUCH GREATER THAN THE COST TO THE CITY, BECAUSE I THINK ESPECIALLY IF WE GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT EASIER FOR -- FOR US TO HAVE MORE DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE AND AGAIN THAT'S A -- THIS WHOLE DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE APPROACH HAS BEEN ABOUT, IS HOW DO WE -- HOW DO WE DO THAT? HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT A REALITY. SO IT'S A TOUGH -- IT'S A TOUGH ISSUE, BUT -- BUT HAVING HEARD ALL OF THE DISCUSSION, I MYSELF AM GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE ANNEXATION AND THE ZONING ITEMS.

MAYOR GARCIA: OKAY.

SLUSHER: MAYOR, I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION. MR. ZAPALAC, I THINK THIS ONE IS FOR YOU. OKAY, I THINK THAT I HEARD YOU RIGHT EARLIER, BUT ARE WE -- IS THE CITY REQUIRING ALL OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION THAT WE CAN REQUIRE?

YES, SIR. WE FEEL THAT WE -- THAT WE HAVE NEGOTIATED -- WHAT WE HAVE NEGOTIATED IS THE MAXIMUM THAT WE COULD REQUIRE TO BE DEDICATED.

SLUSHER: OKAY, SO WE COULDN'T REQUIRE -- WHY DO WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THEN?

WELL, THE REASON IS THAT THE SH-130 IS A REGIONAL FACILITY OR A STATE-WIDE FACILITY THAT SERVES MORE THAN A LOCAL TRAFFIC. AND UNDER THE SUPREME COURT RULINGS OF THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE CAN ONLY REQUIRE DEDICATION PROPORTIONATE TO THE PROPERTY OWNNERS' IMPACT UPON THE TRAFFIC. SO IN THE CASE OF -- OF THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY, WHAT -- WHAT WE -- NOT HAVING THE DETAILED -- THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE FACILITY AT THIS TIME, WE -- WE CAME UP WITH A COUPLE OF OPTIONS, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE DESIGN LOOKS LIKE THAT WE FELT WOULD BE BASED UPON THE DEVELOPER'S IMPACT. IF THERE ARE FRONTAGE ROADS, THEN CERTAINLY THE DEVELOPER GETS A LOT OF BENEFIT FROM THAT, IN TERMS OF ACCESS TO THE ABUTTING PROPERTIES. IF THERE NOR FRONTAGE ROADS, THE ACCESS IS MORE LIMITED IN TRYING TO TIE A DIRECT TRAFFIC IMPACT TO THE PROPERTY IS MORE LIMITED.

AND SO THIS AGREEMENT IT'S -- HE HAS TO PAY FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WHERE THERE ARE FRONTAGE ROADS.

THAT'S CORRECT. IF THERE ARE FRONTAGE ROADS THROUGHOUT AND CAN DEDICATE 150 FEET FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE ROAD. IF THERE ARE NO FRONTAGE ROADS HE WOULD ONLY DEDICATE WHERE THERE ARE ACCESS RAMPS AT MAJOR INTERCHANGES.

SLUSHER: I KNOW THE STAFF HAS SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT ON THIS AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND IN Y'ALL'S ESTIMATION THIS IS ALL THAT YOU CAN LEGALLY GET IN THE WAY OF RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION.

YES, SIR.

SLUSHER: YOU CONCUR WITH THAT, MS. TERRY.

YES, SIR.

SLUSHER: OKAY. WELL, MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION, ALTHOUGH I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT'S ARGUMENT THAT WHEN HE STARTED THIS, 130 WAS -- WAS GOING WEST. I MEAN, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WERE ON RECORD AS WANTING IT TO GO ON THE EASTERN ROUTE, SO IT WAS KNOWN THAT THERE WAS THAT DISCUSSION AND IT COULD VERY LIKELY GO THROUGH HERE. BUT AT THAT TIME, IT WAS GOING TO THE WEST. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE DEDICATION, BUT -- BUT I'M SATISFIED WITH THE STAFF'S ANSWERS WHAT WE HAVE GOTTEN AND WHAT WE CAN LEGALLY REQUIRE. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER WYNN RAISES SOME REAL GOOD POINTS. MAKES IT -- MAKES A REALLY TOUGH DECISION ON THIS. BUT I CAN SEE IF WE WERE TO HOLD OFF AND JUST LET THE COUNTY BUY IT, I'M NOT -- I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD WORK OR -- OR PLAY, EITHER. AND I THINK WE HAVE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO -- INTO THE DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE INTO TRYING TO GET DEVELOPERS TO BUILD INTO THE DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE RATHER THAN IN THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE. AS A MATTER OF FACT THIS IS A DEVELOPER WHO USED TO BUILD IN THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE AND HAS NOW MOVED AND IS DOING WHAT -- WHAT I THINK EVERYONE UP HERE ACKNOWLEDGES IS -- IS A VERY GOOD PROJECT IN THE DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE. I THINK IT COULD BOOST THE -- IT COULD HELP THROUGH THE -- HELP THE ENTIRE AREA AS THIS DEVELOPS. AND IT IS A POSITIVE CASH FLOW TO THE CITY REGARDLESS OF -- I MEAN, UNLESS THOSE RIGHT-OF-WAY COSTS REALLY, REALLY GO UP, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE A POSITIVE CASH FLOW TO THE CITY REGARDLESS. SO EVEN THOUGH -- I THINK COUNCILMEMBER WYNN RAISES SOME REALLY SIGNIFICANT POINTS, I'M GOING TO BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF IT.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. MAYOR PRO TEM?

GOODMAN: I WAS JUST TRYING TO LAY OUT SORT OF THE -- THE GOOD THINGS AND THE BAD THINGS ABOUT ALL OF THIS. AND ONE OF THEM WAS THAT WE DEFINITELY DID WANT TO TAKE CONTROL OF WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY THAT WAS GOING TO IMPACT US, WENT UP, WHEREVER 130 WAS GOING TO BE. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST WHEREVER POSSIBLE. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO POINT OUT THAT IT WAS THE PREFERRED GROWTH CORRIDOR. AND THE PLAN WAS NOT YOUR NORMAL SUBURBAN PLAN AND FOR IT TO BE OUT IN THE GREEN FIELDS AND HAVE A PLAN THAT WAS -- THAT WAS LIKE THIS, WITH THE NEO TRADITIONAL FACTORS AND ELEMENTS WAS REALLY GOOD. SO THAT ALSO WAS A GOOD THING. NOW, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY JUST TO REMIND OURSELVES THAT -- THAT 150 FEET IS A LOT. NOW FOR 130 YOU NEED EVEN MORE THAN THAT. BUT IT'S NOT LIKE WE COULD ASK ANY MORE OF ANYBODY ELSE, EITHER, IF THEY CHOSE NOT TO. SO THIS MAY NOT BE THE FIRST OR THE LAST TIME. I MEAN, I GUESS IT IS THE FIRST. BUT IT WON'T BE THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAVE TO TRY TO GET MORE RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM SOMEONE THAN THEY HAVE TO GIVE. AND I THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT THE -- THAT THE STATE NEEDS TO WORK WITH US ON, TOO. DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER HOW MUCH THE COUNTY'S BOND ITEM WAS ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR 130? I HAVE FORGOTTEN. BUT I THINK THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS -- IF WE ARE THINKING THAT THIS IS $30 MILLION WORTH, FOR INSTANCE, ROUGHLY, THEN I'M THINKING THAT THE COUNTY'S DOLLARS MAY NOT BE ADEQUATE FOR WHAT THEY ARE THINKING THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY COSTS ARE GOING TO BE AS WELL.

MAYOR GARCIA: I THINK THAT -- THAT THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION HAS SAID THAT WHAT WE ARE PUTTING UP IS NOT ADEQUATE, BUT THAT THEY APPRECIATE US PUTTING IN THE OFFER.

GOODMAN: LITTLE BIT BY LITTLE BIT. OKAY. SO THE POINT BEING THAT I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT GOES AWAY, EVEN WHEN WE GET PROPERTY OWNER TO PROVIDE THE DEDICATED RIGHT-OF-WAY UP -- UP AHEAD OF TIME. NOT THAT I WANT TO JINX ANYTHING OR MAKE EXPECTATIONS THAT WILL THEN COME TRUE. BUT -- BUT I JUST THINK ON ALL OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO GET CONTROL AT THIS STAGE AND I WISH THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER DID FEEL COMFORTABLE GIVING MORE RIGHT-OF-WAY SO THAT WE COULD JUST NOT WORRY ABOUT THAT. ON THE OTHER HAND, I UNDERSTAND WHY A PROPERTY OWNER WOULDN'T -- WOULDN'T FEEL INCLINED TO DO IT AND THERE IS THE 150 FEET DESPITE ALL OF THAT. THANKS, MAYOR.

WYNN: MAYOR?

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

WYNN: THANK YOU. MR. LUKENS, A QUESTION FOR YOU. WHY IS IT THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THIS FOR LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION? WHY NOT FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION?

WELL, THIS LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION IS ACTUALLY IN AND OF ITSELF A -- AN INCENTIVE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. SINCE THEY HAVE A -- AN SER THAT'S APPROVED AND WE HAVE GOT A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT, WE COULD ANNEXATION THIS -- ANNEX THIS AREA FOR FULL PURPOSES. BUT WE ENTERED INTO THIS WHOLE MATTER AS OF WAY OF ENCOURAGING GROWTH IN THIS DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE AND IN THIS DIRECTION, GOING OUT 290 EAST. SO THE LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION IN AND OF ITSELF IS AN INCENTIVE. ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S PART OF A WHOLE PACKAGE. IF YOU WANT TO GET -- IF YOU WANT TO USE THE REIMBURSEMENT CONTRACT TO EXTEND UTILITIES EAST, THAT'S ONE THING THAT YOU DO. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A P.U.D. SO YOU CAN HAVE THE SORTS OF LAND USE CONTROLS AND THINGS THAT YOU WANT OF THAT NATURE, IF -- YOU WANT A MASTER PLANNED PROJECT, THAT'S THE SECOND THING. AND THIRD, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND REDUCE THE -- THE TAX BURDEN OF THE PROJECT SOMEWHAT AND YOU DO A LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION. SO ALL OF THESE THINGS COME TOGETHER.

WYNN: SO THE INCENTIVE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION THAT YOU JUST HAD, THE INCENTIVE BEING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS -- PROPERTY OWNER WANT PAY CITY PROPERTY TAXES, CORRECT?

UNTIL THE PROJECTS START COMING INTO THE FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION. BUT THEY WILL PAY A FIVE YEAR ROLLBACK WHEN THEY COME INTO THE CITY'S JURISDICTION. SO, YOU KNOW, THE EXACT -- THE EXACT AMOUNT OF THAT BENEFIT WOULD BE HARD TO GAUGE.

WYNN: OKAY. BUT THE DYNAMICS ARE SO WE ANNEX LIMITED PURPOSE SO HE DOESN'T PAY CITY PROPERTY TAXES, BUT THEN WE TURN AROUND AND GIVE HIM OVER A THOUSAND -- 2,000 ACRES APPROXIMATELY OF P.U.D. ZONING, SO EVEN THOUGH SOME TRACKS WON'T BE BUILT ON FOR YEARS, AND IF THEY HAD BEEN JUST A -- YOU KNOW, 550 DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS OUT THERE, THE TRACKS -- THE TRACTS WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE ZONED UNTIL SUCH TIME AS DEVELOPMENT IS READY AND SO TRACTS ALONG 130 WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE RURAL -- ZONING ON THEM. BUT BY OUR ACTION TODAY, LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION, SO NO PROPERTY TAXES PAID TO THE CITY BY THE PROPERTY OWNER. P.U.D. ZONING, WHICH GOES AHEAD AND GIVES VERY SPECIFIC ZONING AND VALUE TO ALL OF THE LAND UP AND DOWN 130, EVEN THOUGH THE ADJACENT LAND WON'T BE BUILT ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, DELIVERING SEWER OUT THERE, MARKET DEMAND, ET CETERA, AND THEN TAXPAYERS TURN AROUND THIS YEAR AND CONDEMN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, AT -- AT THE -- ESSENTIALLY THE FUTURE VALUE, THAT IS THE P.U.D. ZONING PUT IN PLACE, SO IT SEEMS TO ME A -- A HECK OF AN INCENTIVE.

LET ME GO BACK TO ABOUT THE FULL PURPOSE CONVERSION. THE AREAS GET ANNEXED AS THEY GET -- CONVERTED TO FULL PURPOSE STATUS AS THEY GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

WYNN: CORRECT.

BUT AT THE END, I THINK IT'S 2008, 2009 ALL COMES IN, IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR PLATTING PROCESS. I WANTED TO MAKE EVERYONE CLEAR IT WASN'T SOME SORT OF LONG-TERM PROCESS. ACTUALLY IT COMES -- IT ALL GETS CONVERTED FAIRLY QUICKLY.

WYNN: OKAY. BUT BECAUSE WE ARE GIVING P.U.D. ZONING TO THESE TRACTS OF LAND THAT WON'T BE BUILT ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS, THE ZONING IS GOING TO BE IN PLACE. ESSENTIALLY THE VALUE ENHANCEMENT HAPPENS INSTANCE JOYSLY -- INSTANTANEOUSLY WHEN THAT COMES INTO PLAY SO THE VALUE GOES FROM CORN FIELDS INTO MIXED USE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TRACTS, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO UTILITIES UP THERE, NO CHANCE OF IT BEING DEVELOPED ANY TIME SOON. BUT BECAUSE -- BECAUSE WE ARE DOING LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION, NOT FULL PURPOSE, HE ALSO WANT BE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES ON THAT LAND, EVEN THE LAND THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE TRACTS THAT HE WILL -- THAT HE WILL SELL TO THE TAXPAYERS AT -- AT MULTIPLES OF THE VALUE -- OH, OKAY. I SEE THE DYNAMIC HERE, THANK YOU.

GOODMAN: MAYOR?

MAYOR GARCIA: FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTION? WE HAVE -- I NEED TO MENTION TO YOU, THAT WE HAVE THE -- THE 5:30 MUSIC ITEM AND THE SINGER HAS A GIG THAT THEY HAVE TO GO TO. SO I --

I GOT A GIG TO GO TO [ LAUGHTER ].

MAYOR GARCIA: THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IS HERE TO -- YOU KNOW, TO ENTERTAIN US AND -- WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN RECESS THE MEETING FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES AND MAYBE -- MAYBE THE MUSIC WILL -- WILL HELP US GET CALMER AND BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE WITH MORE PRECISION. SO -- SO IF IT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY --

THOMAS: MAYOR, IF YOU WOULD JUST ALLOW ME TO COMMENT BECAUSE RIGHT AFTER THE PROCLAMATION I'M GOING TO LEAVE, I WON'T BE BACK. I AM LOOKING AT THE PROGRAM -- IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. BUT I AM LOOKING AT THE MONEY THAT -- THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO -- IN COST. UM, LIKE COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ, IT AN EXCELLENT, IT'S AN AREA THAT -- THAT THE DESIRE -- NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED. I THINK THAT I HAVE BEEN VERY ADAMANT ABOUT THAT. BUT WHEN YOU COME INTO THE WAY IT'S SET UP NOW AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF 130, IT'S GOING TO -- TO PUT US IN A PREDICAMENT THAT -- THAT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE MIGHT CAN IMPLEMENT THROUGH THE CITY THAT IS GOING TO HAMPER US PAYING THE OTHER PART OF THIS MONEY THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO PAY. SO -- SO THAT'S -- I JUST NEEDED TO SAY THAT, BECAUSE I THINK -- WE NEED TO WAIT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.

MAYOR GARCIA: DO YOU HAVE A FEW PROCLAMATIONS THAT YOU ALSO WANT TO PRESENT.

THOMAS: I DEFINITELY HAVE PROCLAMATIONS.

MAYOR GARCIA: LET'S RECESS FOR A FEW MINUTES, WE WILL COME BACK TO THIS ITEM AND -- AND IT'S -- LET'S SEE. BETH WILLIAMS, ARE YOU HERE? MS. WILLIAMS? DID SHE HAVE TO LEAVE? BETH WILLIAMS. COUNCILMEMBER, DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT YOUR PROCLAMATIONS NOW? BECAUSE -- GO AHEAD. WHILE OUR MUSICIAN GETS READY. GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL WE FINISH WITH OUR PROCLAMATIONS AND OUR MUSIC.

[ONE MOMENT PLEASE FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS]

MAYOR GARCIA: SO SIT BACK AND RELAX. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG AFTERNOON. SO WE NOW ARE GOING TO BREAK IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND HAVE A LITTLE MUSIC. MS. BETH WILLIAMS WAS BORN INTO A MILITARY FAMILY AND MOVED EVERY TWO TO THREE YEARS, LIVING IN PUERTO RICO, PAKISTAN AND THE PHILIPPINES, TEXAS, GEORGIA AND JAPAN, ALL BEFORE THE AGE OF 17. BETH CAN ALSO RECALL HER DAD SING TO GO HELP PASS THE TIME FOR THE FAMILY. SHE BELIEVES IT WAS A COMFORTING SOUND OF HER FATHER'S VOICE AND HER MOTHER'S GIFT FOR PLAYING THE PIANO THAT INSTILLED IN HER TO LOVE FOR MUSIC AT AN EARLY AGE. FROM THE VERY BEGINNING SHE WROTE HER OWN SONGS. AFTER A BRIEF MUSICAL JOURNEY TO NASHVILLE, SHE FINALLY MADE HER HOME IN TEXAS AND RELEASED ONE EMPTY CHAIR. I GUESS THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST SONGS, ALBUMS?

THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY SECOND ALBUM.

MAYOR GARCIA: WHICH WAS RECORDED LIVE IN THE STUDIO IN ONE DAY. THIS PROJECT SOLIDIFIED HER PLACE IN THE TEXAS MUSIC SCENE. BETH'S PASSIONATE CALL TO MUSIC HAS BEEN THE DRIVING FORCE IN HER LIFE. HER VOICE IS ABSOLUTELY BREATHTAKING AND HER PURR SUES HER CAREER BY A FLAME AND BURNING DESIRE WITH A HOME FOR THOSE WHO WILL LISTEN. IT'S WITH A GREAT DEAL OF PLEASURE THAT I SFWRAUS TO YOU TODAY, THE VERY TALENTED BETH WILLIAMS. WELCOME, MS. WILLIAMS. [APPLAUSE].

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[APPLAUSE].

THANK YOU.

MAYOR GARCIA: WE'RE HAPPY.

BE HAPPY NOW.

MAYOR GARCIA: TELL US WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PLAY.

ACTUALLY, I'LL PLAYING -- .

MAYOR GARCIA: YOU CAN ADVERTISE USER MURVEG.

I'M PLAYING AT HILL'S CAFE TONIGHT. AND IF YOU GO TO MY WEBSITE, IT'S BETH WILLIAMS MUSIC.COM. CAN Y'ALL SEE THAT OKAY? AND BETH WILLIAMS MUSIC.COM HAS MY SCHEDULE AND THIS IS A COPY OF MY NEW CD. IT'S CALLED IN THIS OLD HOUSE, PRODUCED BY LLOYD MAZE AND TERRY ENDRIKS. GO TO MY WEBSITE, BETH WILLIAMS MUSIC.COM AND COME SEE ME WHEREVER I'M PLAYING.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU WITH A PROCLAMATION DECLARING FEBRUARY THE 14TH, 2002 AS BETH WILLIAMS DAY IN AUSTIN.

THOMAS: GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME IN AND DO THESE AWARDS TO THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED A LOT OF THEIR TIME AND EFFORTS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. AS WE KNOW, THIS IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, BUT I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CELEBRATES ALL THE TIME, NOT JUST THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY. I JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARDS TO SEVERAL PEOPLE. I THINK I BROKE HISTORY BECAUSE I HAVE 14 TO GIVE, BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO DO FOR THE BREVITY OF TIME, I JUST WANT TO -- FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO START OUT ASKING MS. HUNT TO COME FORWARD FOR JANIE PERIHARRISON. [APPLAUSE]. I'LL READ THE FIRST ONE AND THEN WE'LL JUST GO BY THE NAMES AND I'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEF HISTORY ABOUT EACH INDIVIDUAL. IT SAYS THE CITY OF AUSTIN DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD DURING THE 37TH ANNUAL OBSERVATION OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH. WE ARE PLEASED TO RECOGNIZE JANIE PERRY HARRISON FOR HER CONTRIBUTIONS TO HISTORICAL PRESERVATION AS CO-FOUNDER OF THE WH PASSION HISTORICAL SOCIETY, THROUGH WHICH SHE HAS RENDERED VALUABLE SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN, PRESENTED THIS 14TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2002, SIGNED BY OUR MAYOR, GUS GARCIA. [APPLAUSE].

GOOD EVENING. MY MOTHER DID NOT GIVE ME A SPEECH TO GIVE. SHE JUST SAID YOU NEEDED TO BE THERE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO RECEIVE AN HONOR. BUT I WANTED TO SAY THAT MY MOTHER, WHO IS AN AUSTINITE, WHO, BY WAIT, LIVES ON THE SAME STREET SHE HAS LIVED ON ALL OF HER 88 YEARS, IS VERY PROUD AND VERY HONORED TO RECEIVE THIS. SHE HAS WORKED HARD, VERY, VERY HARD EVEN THOUGH SHE CANNOT GET OUT NOW TO DO ANYTHING, TO PRESERVE ALL OF THE THINGS, HISTORICAL THINGS IN EAST AUSTIN THAT HAVE BELONGED TO AFRICAN-AMERICANS. AND SHE HAS AT HER HOUSE SO MUCH MATERIAL, SO MANY THINGS THAT WE COULD USE TO REMIND US OF WHERE WE HAVE COME FROM. AND HOPEFULLY TO PRESERVE THAT AS WELL AND TO PROBABLY MAGAZINE FI THAT IN THE YEARS TO COME. I -- MAGNIFY THAT IN THE YEARS TO COME. I THANK YOU SO MUCH, SHE THANKS YOU AND ALL OF OUR FAMILY THANKS YOU FOR THIS HONOR FOR MY MOTHER. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE].

THOMAS: I HAVE TO SAY THAT MS. HARRISON HAD A GREAT DEAL IN MY LIFE BECAUSE WE WERE IN THE SAME CHURCH FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS AT FIRST BAPTIST. THE NEXT PERSON WILL BE MR. FRANCES -- NO, FANNIE LAWLESS AND IT IS FOR HER CONTRIBUTIONS SERVING BLACK HISTORY IN AUSTIN BY ESTABLISHING THE BLACK HERITAGE COMMITTEE. AND I WOULD ASK MS. LAWLESS TO COME UP. [APPLAUSE]. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT PERSON WILL BE MR. HERMAN LVON JUNIOR, FOR HIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BY ESTABLISHING THE CENTER FOR WORKFORCE TRAINING AND CAREER TECHNOLOGY AND AS PRESIDENT OF THE AUSTIN AREA WORKFORCE LEAD. [APPLAUSE].

COUNCILMEMBER, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. I WANT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE AUSTIN AREA URBAN LEAGUE AS WE CELEBRATE THIS YEAR OUR 25TH ANNIVERSARY HERE IN AUSTIN. WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THE URBAN LEAGUE HERE 25 YEARS AGO WE HELPED THE DISADVANTAGED AND DISENFRAN TRIESED AFRICAN-AMERICANS TO BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT AND SELF RELIANT. AND THAT MISSION HASN'T CHANGED YET BECAUSE THE NEEDS ARE STILL HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, WORK WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN AS WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES NECESSARY, BUT ALSO TO HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT, SELF-RELIANT IN THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[INAUDIBLE].

THE MAYOR WANTED ME TO SAY THAT WE'RE ALSO HAVING OUR ANNUAL EQUAL OPPORTUNITY DINNER TOMORROW NIGHT AT THE RENAISSANCE AUSTIN HOTEL STARTING AT 5:30, AND SEE YOU THERE. AND OUR SPECIAL GUEST IS ROADWAY AIR. AND ALSO WE'RE HONORING A SPECIAL, SPECIAL INDIVIDUAL, MS. WILLIE MAY KIRK AS AN AWARDS RECIPIENT. [APPLAUSE].

THOMAS: THE NEXT PERSON WILL BE NONE OTHER THAN MR. NELSON LINDHER FOR HIS OBSERVATIONS TO SOCIAL EQUITY AND WITH THE LOCAL CHAPTER OF THE NWWAP. NAACP.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. MAYOR AND FELLLY CITY COUNCIL. I ACCEPT THIS ON BEHALF OF AUSTIN NAACP BOARD AND ALSO OUR MEMBERSHIP. WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN MAKING THIS A BETTER CITY THAT WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF AN LET'S CONTINUE TO FIGHT TO MAKE THIS CITY FREE OF RACISM AND CLASSISM AND ALL FORMS OF INJUSTICE SO WE CAN ALL REACH OUR HIGHEST IDEAL. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE].

THOMAS: THE NEXT GENTLEMAN IS NO STRANGER, BUT IT IS MR. BYRON MARSHAL FOR HIS CONTRIBUTION TO NEIGHBORHOOD REVAITLE VITAL SAYING -- REVITALIZATION THROUGH THE AUSTIN REVITALIZATION AUTHORITY. [APPLAUSE].

ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD AND MEMBERS OF THE AUSTIN REVITALIZATION AUTHORITY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL, THE MAYOR FOR ALL THE SUPPORT IN HELPING US MOVE FORWARD. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO, AS THE OTHER RECIPIENTS HAVE SAID, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PROMISE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WE'RE TRYING TO HELP UNLOCK IT AND TO ACTUALLY REVITALIZE IT. SO WE APPRECIATE THIS AND WE HOPE YOU WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE].

THOMAS: THE NEXT PERSON WILL BE NONE OTHER THAN MR. BART ADVANCE. MR. VANCE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THE ARTS AS A CEO, PROR ARTS AND HE'S SERVING AS AN ADVOCATE FOR ALL ARTISTS OF COLOR IN THE AUSTIN AREA. [APPLAUSE].

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GIVE ME A STAGE, YOU KNOW I TAKELIKE TO STAKE TAKE SOME TIME, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE BRIEF. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, LINDA DAILY AND COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS AND ALL THE OTHER WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE COUNCIL WHO HAVE GIVEN ME SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. WE'VE GOT A LOT TO DO, BUT WITH YOUR SUPPORT WE CAN DO IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE].

THOMAS: I HAD ASK MR. EMMITT WATERS TO COME FORWARD. FOR HIS CONTRIBUTION TO THE PRESERVATION OF ONE OF THE OLDEST AFRICAN-AMERICAN CEMETERIES IN AUSTIN, BARTON SPRINGS BAPTIST CHURCH AND THE CEMETERY IN THAT AREA. [APPLAUSE].

IT'S A GREAT HONOR TO BE HERE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS, THE MAYOR AND MS. BEVERLY GRIFFITH. IT'S NICE TO BE HERE. I WISH THAT MORE PEOPLE COULD GET TOGETHER. WE HAVE SO MANY CEMETERY.IES THAT NEED WORK. I WISH WE COULD GET A WORKFORCE TOGETHER AND DO SOMETHING. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE].

THOMAS: THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARDS THAT WERE GOING TO BE PRESENTED TODAY, BUT THEY WERE UNABLE TO BE HERE. AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE NAMES. REVEREND FRANK GARRETT JUNIOR FOR HIS CONTRIBUTION TO THE WAKEUP CALL PROGRAM AT KEZI. MR. GARY ROW, WHICH IS.. IS -- GUERRO. DID I PRONOUNCE THAT RIGHT? MR. GARDO FOR COMMITTING HIS COMMUNITY SERVICE AND DEDICATING ASSISTING THE ELDERLY RESIDENTS AND DOING PLUMBING WORK AND HOUSING REPAIR AT NO CHARGE. ALSO, MR. ANDREW JACKSON WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE. HE'S ONE OF THE HEAD FOOTBALL COACHES AT REAGAN HIGH SCHOOL. DR. JEFFREY JAMES. DR. JAMES IS HERE? YES, HE IS. COME FORWARD, DR. JAMES. [APPLAUSE]. WE GIVE THIS AWARD TO DR. JAMES FOR HIS WORK IN THE HEALTH CARE THROUGH THE EAST AUSTIN HEALTH CARE CENTER FROM 1984 TO THE PRESENT. DR. JAMES. [APPLAUSE].

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS RECOGNITION. IT IS INDEED AN HONOR. I'M A NATIVE AUSTINITE. I WAS RAISED IN THE ROSEWOOD PROJECTS, BUT I WAS RAISED WITH A VISION. AND SO THIS IS VERY DEAR AND MEANINGFUL TO ME BECAUSE I HAVE ALWAYS HAD A VISION OF BEING A SERVANT. AND TO HAVE MADE A SMALL BUT HOPEFULLY POSITIVE IMPACT ON HEALTH CARE AND THE DELIVERY SYSTEM AS IT EFFECTS ALL PEOPLE IN GENERAL, I'M HONORED, HONORED TO BE SERVED AND HONORED TO BE RECOGNIZED. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE].

THOMAS: ALSO, DR. STERVIN LANCE IS ONE OF THE PERSONS GOING TO BE HONORED TODAY FOR WORKING IN THE EDUCATION SYSTEM THROUGH THE EAST SIDE SOCIAL ACTION COALITION. ALSO MR. AIRCRAFT MITCHELL FOR HIS -- ERIC MITCHELL FOR HIS TIME SERVING TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN PLACE SIX FROM 1994 TO 1997. AND MR. DARYL PIERCE FOR HIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE CAPITOL CITY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. AND I THINK I GOT EVERYONE. MS. LAWLESS, COME ON MS. LAWLESS. [APPLAUSE].

YES. I JUST HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHAT I HAD TO SAY WHEN I WAS UP HERE BEFORE. I AM FANNY LAWLESS. I'M A CO-FOUNDER ALSO OF THE WH PASSION HISTORICAL SOCIETY. WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS INTEGRATED, JANIE HARRISON AND I DECIDED WE NEEDED SOMETHING TO HELP THE STUDENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON. WE DEVELOPED THE NEGRO HERITAGE COMMITTEE. AND IT TRAVELED IN ALL OF THE SCHOOLS IN AUSTIN. AND IT HELPED A WHOLE LOT. WE WERE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. WE GOT FUNDING FOR THE EXHIBIT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY AND WE'RE JUST ALL ABOUT IT STILL. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO TELL THE EAST SIDE STORY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. TOM IF I COULD GET EVERYONE TO COME OVER IN FRONT, WE WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE TOGETHER. BUT AS YOU COME, I DO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE SOMEONE THAT IS WHAT I CALL MOMMA, IT'S WILLIE MA CURT. SHE IS THE ONE THAT REALLY INSPIRED ME TO DO THE PRESENTATION. SHE CAME IN TO ME AND I SAID WHAT DO YOU WANT, MOM IN A? SHE SAID I DON'T WANT ANYTHING. I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR THE THINGS THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO FOR THE COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. BUT THERE IS SOMETHING FOR MOMMA CURT, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ON THE 28TH. SO ALL THAT HAVE RECEIVED THEIR DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARDS, WE WANT YOU TO COME BACK ON THE 28TH, WHICH IS OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING IN FEBRUARY OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE]. Y'ALL COME UP FRONT. WE WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE. MAYOR?

THOMAS: IF THE MAYOR DON'T MIND, ALSO I JUST WANT TO THANK MY STAFF FOR HELPING ME ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE DID TODAY.

MAYOR GARCIA: IN MAKING THIS PRESENTATION, I HAVE TO TELL THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ENGINEERS THAT MY BROTHER IS AN ENGINEER, SO WE HAVE ENGINEERS IN OUR FAMILY. AND THIS ONE READS THAT WHEREAS DURING THE 51ST ANNUAL CELEBRATION OF NATIONAL ENGINEERS WEEK, 400 VOLUNTEERS FROM AUSTIN AND THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA WILL BE VISITING MORE THAN 100 SCHOOLS TO CULTIVATE INTEREST IN ENGINEERING, MATH AND SCIENCE AMONG OUR YOUTH. AND WHEREAS THE VOLUNTEERS HOPE TO ENCOURAGE GIRLS AND MINORITIES TO CONSIDER NON-TRADITIONAL FIELDS OF STUDY AND WHEREAS THE IMPORTANCE OF ENGINEERING AND TECHNOLOGY TO OUR SOCIETY ALSO WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED ON TELEVISION, ON THE INTERNET AND IN DEMONSTRATIONS AT LOCAL MALLS BY THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS ENGINEERING -- BY THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS ENGINEERING STUDENTS, NOW THEREFORE I, GUS GARCIA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, TEXAS, DO HERE BY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY THE 17TH THROUGH THE 23RD AS NATIONAL ENGINEERS WEEK IN AUSTIN. AND I COMMEND YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND I KNOW MY BROTHER GOES AROUND TALKING TO EVERYBODY ABOUT BECOMING AN ENGINEER. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE].

THANK YOU ALL. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO COME BY HERE IN FEBRUARY. WE'RE REALLY OFF TO A GREAT START THIS YEAR. WE HAVE OVER 400 VOLUNTEERS FROM OVER 30 BUSINESSES, PROFESSIONAL SOCIETIES AND THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS IS HELPING US TREMENDOUSLY. THIS YEAR WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING OUT A LITTLE FURTHER. YOUR HOSTS FOR THE MEETING MEETING HERE, LCRA, ARE HELPING US NOT ONLY FINANCIALLY, BUT THEY HAVE 30 VOLUNTEERS WHOB SPREAD THROUGHOUT, AS YOU KNOW, THE LOWER COLORADO. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING OUT TO SCHOOLS THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT TO BEFORE. WE GOT A LOT OF FINANCIAL HELP FROM A LOT OF COMPANIES AROUND HERE, 3M, IBM, INTEL, MAXIMUM ENTERPRISES HELPS WITH OUR LOCAL WEBSITE. SBC RESOURCES TECHNOLOGY, INC., SOLECTRON AND TEXAS SOCIETY OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, OF COURSE. THIS YEAR, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, WE ARE DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WE ARE HAVING COMMUNITY EVENTS THIS YEAR. WE WERE AT HIGHLAND MALL AS PART OF THE KLRU KIDS' CLUB AND THERE WE SAW OVER A THOUSAND KIDS OVER ABOUT A FOUR-HOUR PERIOD. WE'RE HAVING ANOTHER EVENT COMING UP HERE SHORTLY ON THE 23RD OF FEBRUARY, KLRU IS HELPING US OUT WITH THAT AS WELL AS THE CHILDREN'S COURTYARD AND WE HOPE TO SEE AT LEAST ANOTHER THOUSAND THERE AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET OUT TO SEE ABOUT 20,000 ALTOGETHER IN THE SCHOOLS. MOST IMPORTANT ARE REALLY OUR VOLUNTEERS. WITHOUT THEIR ENTHUSIASM, WITHOUT THEIR TIME GETTING OUT AND KIND OF STIRRING THE KIDS UP IN TERMS OF HOW IMPORTANT SCIENCE AND MATH IS, WE COULDN'T ACCOMPLISH THIS. SO MY THANKS TO ALL OF THEM, TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN FOR THEIR GREAT SUPPORT. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. OH, AND I FORGOT, THAT'S RIGHT. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SIX YEARS NOW. MY DAUGHTER, LAURA, IS EIGHT YEARS OLD, SO LAURA'S MEMORY IS FILLED WITH NATIONAL ENGINEER'S WEEK. AND SHE HAS SOMETHING TO PRESENT TO THE MAYOR. I THINK WE NEED TO TURN IT AROUND. [APPLAUSE]. SO OUR HONORARY ENGINEER.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYOR GARCIA: ARE WE GOING TO RODEO OR WHAT? [LAUGHTER]. THIS PROCLAMATION DECLARES FEBRUARY THE 22ND TO MARCH THE THIRD AS TRAIL RIDE WEEK. AND I'LL READ THE REST OF THE PROCLAMATION IN A LITTLE WHILE, BUT I THINK YOU'LL ENJOY WHAT THIS YOUNG LADY IS ABOUT TO DO. SO THERE'S THE MIC.

HEAD 'EM UP! MOVE 'EM OUT! WAGON'S HO! IT'S TRAIL RIDING ROW RODEO TIME IN TEXAS. WE'RE GETTING READY TO ROLL OUT TO THE 28TH ANNUAL AUSTIN FOUNDERS TRAIL RIDE ON WEEK FROM FRIDAY A FEBRUARY THE 22ND. IT'S A WEEK LONG 110 MILE TRAIL RIDE WITH HORSES, MULES AND LOTS OF COVERED WITH A GONZALEZ THAT ARE COMING IN FROM ALL OVER TEXAS AND ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES. AND SOME FOREIGN COUNTRIES SO RECREATE THE OLD WAGON TRAINS AND CATTLE DRIVES THAT SETTLED AUSTIN, OUR GREAT LONE STAR AT A TIME OF TEXAS AND OUR GREAT UNITED STATES. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT AND WATCH US COME IN OR COME RIDE WITH US. YOU CAN EVEN RENT A HORSE AND JOIN US EVEN IF YOU DON'T OWN ONE. AND COME ENJOY RIDING THROUGH THE BEAUTIFUL TEXAS HILL COUNTRY. WE'LL BE STARTING IN SEGUIN, WHICH IS ON PART OF THE OLD CHISHOLM TRAIL RUN AND THEY TRUD YUD TO TAKE THE COWS UP TO KANSAS. THEN WE'LL BE HEADING UP TO NEW BRAUNFELS, RIDING ON THE GUADALUPE RIVER TO CANYON LAKE AND THEN FISHER, WIMBERLEY AND THEN WE'LL END UP IN CAMP BEN MCCOLLOUGH WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY TOO. FROM THAT CAMP SITE WHERE THEY COME FROM FROM THE TEXAS INDEPENDENCE DAY AND RID RODE I DON'T PARADE AND THEN OUR TRAIL RIDERS WILL BE FEATURED IN ALL THE BRIGHT RED ON THE GRAND ENTRY THAT OPENS THE RODEO ON MARCH THE SECOND WITH SAWYER BROWN AS THE ENTERTAINER. AND IT IS THE ONLY RODEO GRAND ENTRY OUT OF 13 PERFORMANCE THALS RUN FROM MARCH THE SECOND TO THE 16TH AND WE'VE GOT AN HONORARY MEMBERSHIP FOR MAYOR GARCIA AND ALL OUR COUNCILMEMBERS BECAUSE THEY ARE HONORARY MEMBERS OF THE 18TH ANNUAL AUSTIN FOUNDERS TRAIL RIDE. [APPLAUSE]. HAPPY TRAILS.

MAYOR GARCIA: SO FROM FEBRUARY THE 22ND TO MARCH THE THIRD, TRAIL READS AND RODEOS, AUSTIN GOES WESTERN. THANK YOU. NOW IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO PRESENT THE CITY OF AUSTIN DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD TO ONE OF MY DEAREST FRIENDS. FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS OF SUPPORT, COMMITMENT, DEDICATED EFFORT ON BEHALF OF THE SISTER CITY'S RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND THE CITY OF SALTILLO MEXICO. GLORIA PENNING TON IS A DESERVING OF PUBLIC ACLAIM AND COMMUNITY RECOGNITION. IN ORGANIZING PLANNING AND PREPARING COUNTLESS EXCHANGE VISITS, AND LET ME TELL YOU THIS IS A LITTLE OF WORK, TO AND FROM SALTILLO, HER KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING FROM HELPED BUILD A BRIDGE BETWEEN CULTURES AND CREATE STRONG BONDS BETWEEN OUR CITIZENS AND THEIRS. THROUGH HER ENERGETIC AND SUSTAINED EFFORTS AS HOSE STES, TOUR GUIDE, COMMITTEE MEMBER CHAIR, SHE HAS SUCCEEDED IN MAKING THIS SISTER CITY RELATIONSHIP A MODEL FOR OTHERS IN AUSTIN, TEXAS AND ACROSS THE NATION. WE'RE PLEASED TO HONOR HER DEDICATIONS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS WITH THIS AWARD PRESENTED THIS 14TH DAY OF FEBRUARY OF THE YEAR 2002. AND I WROTE IN HERE, I DIDN'T MEAN TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE BEAUTY OF THIS, BUT WITH MY BAD WRITING I SAY, GLO, YOU REALLY DESERVE THIS AWARD, AND SHE REALLY DOES.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE].

WHAT A WONDERFUL VALENTINE, ISN'T THAT? YOU KNOW, IT WAS IN 1968 WHEN THEN-MAYOR ROY BUTLER APPOINTED AN AUSTIN SALTILLO SISTER CITY COMMITTEE. IN THOSE VERY EARLY DAYS IT WAS MOSTLY THE HIGH OFFICIALS WHO PARTICIPATED IN EXCHANGE PROGRAMS, BUT IN THE '80'S UNDER MAYOR RON MULLEN AND COUNCILMEMBER JOHN SERVANO, THE MEMBERSHIP CHANGED. WE HAD MORE COMMUNITY REPRESENTATION. AND THEN CAME ALONG MY DEAR FRIEND GUS GARCIA, AND HE GAVE US EVEN MORE SUPPORT AND SUGGESTED THAT WHAT WE OUGHT TO BE DOING IS SHARING OUR KNOWLEDGE, OUR TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE. WE OUGHT TO BE WORKING IN GATHERING MEDICAL EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES FOR OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN SALTILLO, SO THOSE PROJECTS STARTED, WHERE TO NOW THE HISPANIC FIREFIGHTERS ARE PART OF OUR DELEGATION AND PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND TRAINING, AMIGO AT, OUR HISPANIC POLICE OFFICER ASSOCIATION ARE APART. RECENTLY WHEN COUNCILMEMBER RAUL ALVAREZ WAS ELECTED, WE CROSSED OUR FINGERS AND HOPED THAT THE SUPPORT WOULD CONTINUE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE SUPPORT HAS CONTINUED AND WE ARE GRATEFUL. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. [APPLAUSE]. THE MEMBERSHIP OF OUR ASSOCIATION THANKS YOU, ESPECIALLY YOU, MAYOR GUS GARCIA, FOR RECOGNITION OF THEIR LABOR ON BEHALF OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN SALTILLO, MEXICO. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE].

MAYOR GARCIA: YOU ALL JUST BEAR WITH ME A LITTLE WHILE LONGER. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ, WHO IS NOW THE COORDINATOR OF THE CITIES GOVERNMENT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF SALTILLO. SO HE'S OUR LIAISON, COUNCIL LEE ASON. COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ.

ALVAREZ: THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I REALLY WANT TO ECHO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID ABOUT GLORIA AND ALL THAT SHE'S DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST WITH SALTILLO, BUT ALL THE MANY DIFFERENT THINGS AS A LONG TIME EMPLOYEE OF THE PARKS AND REKEETION DEPARTMENT AND ALL THE ISSUES SHE WORKED ON THERE PERTAINING TO SENIORS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE SHOW THAT THEY ALSO PUT ON, THE TELEVISION PROGRAM THAT SHE ALSO PRODUCED WAS ALSO AN INCREDIBLE CONTRIBUTION TO THE FABRIC OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND CERTAINLY WITH AUSTIN-SAL SALTILLO SISTER CITY SHE HAS BEEN ONE OF THE FOUNDATIONS OF THAT PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION AND WE'RE GLAD TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HER ON THAT BECAUSE THE RELATIONSHIP CONTINUES TO GROW AND WE WANT TO INVITE FOLKS WHO ARE INTERESTED TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST ALSO IN THE SALTILLO SIDE TO BRING PEOPLE OVER HERE TO AUSTIN ONCE A YEAR JUST LIKE WE SEND A BIG DELEGATION OVER THERE. AND WITH EITHER OF THOSE UNDERTAKINGS, THERE'S A NEED FOR A LOT OF RESOURCES AND I THINK GLORIA IS DOING A WONDERFUL JOB AS A CHAIR OF THE ASSOCIATION FOR MANY YEARS. AND -- BUT AS THESE THINGS GET MORE POPULAR, WE NEED MORE AND MORE SUPPORT AND SO THE MORE THE MERRYER. WE WANT TO INVITE EVERYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR SISTER CITY IN MEXICO TO CALL MY OFFICE OR GET IN TOUCH WITH THE -- WITH THE ASSOCIATION BECAUSE IT A REALLY BEAUTIFUL THING TO SEE THAT KIND OF EXCHANGE AND JUST WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY. BUT THANK AGAIN ONE MORE TIME OUR GUEST OF HONOR HERE, GLORIA PENNING TON FOR A WONDERFUL CONTRIBUTION IN THIS AREA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GLORIA. [APPLAUSE].

MAYOR GARCIA: A PERSON WHO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH GLORIA WORK WHILE SHE WAS A MEMBER OF THE PARKS BOARD, THE HONORABLE MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL, BEVERLY GRIFFITH. BEVERLY, WELCOME?

GRIFFITH: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M BEVERLY GRIFFITH, WHO HAS HAD THE PRIVILEGE AND THE HONOR TO KNOW AND WORK WITH GLORIA PENNING TON FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS. STARTING DURING MY DAYS ON THE PARKS BOARD. GLORIA IS ONE OF THE MOST CIVIL LIESING PEOPLE I HAVE EVER KNOWN. THE DEFINITION OF CIVILIZATION THAT IS FINE IS ONE THAT TAKES SPECIAL CARE IN NURTURING ITS I DON'T THINKEST PEOPLE AND ITS OLDEST PEOPLE. -- YOUNGEST PEOPLE AND ITS OLDEST PEOPLE. AND GLORIA'S WHOLE LIFE HAS BEEN DOING THAT. THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT SHE HAS MADE TO THE LIVES OF SENIORS WILL GO ON AND ON. SHE HAS ALSO BEEN A MAGNIFICENT ROLE MODEL FOR YOUNGER PEOPLE OF ALL BACKGROUNDS. AND I COUNT MYSELF AMONG THOSE. I HAVE ADMIRED AND TRIED TO BE LIKE HER FOR A LONG TIME, AND STILL HOPE AS TIME GOES ON TO FOLLOW HER AND TO ENRICH THE CIVILIZATION AS SHE HAS DONE. OUR GREAT ROLE MODEL AND MENTOR, MS. PENING TON. [APPLAUSE].

MAYOR GARCIA: ALSO HERE TONIGHT IS GLORIA'S HUSBAND, MEL. WELCOME, SIR. [APPLAUSE]. IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT YOUR SPOUSE, YOU CAN SAY IT, OTHERWISE JUST ENJOY THE EVENING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US. AND FOLKS, THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT TONIGHT. WE'LL BE BACK IN A FEW MINUTES AFTER WE GET A BITE TO EAT. THANK YOU.

MAYOR GARCIA: THERE BEING A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL IN THE CHAMBERS, I WANT TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER. AND AT THE TIME WE RECESSED WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ITEMS 42 AND 43. AND THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE TABLE ON ITEMS 42 AND 43. THIS BEING ORDINANCES, THEY WILL REQUIRE A VOTE OF FIVE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. SO IF ANY OF YOU ARE OUT THERE, WITHIN HEARING DISTANCE OF MY VOICE -- THERE WE ARE. I THINK THERE'S ONE MORE COUNCILMEMBER THAT IS FINISHING UP DINNER AND THEY'LL BE HERE SHORTLY.

GOODMAN: MAYOR, COULD I ASK A PARLY MEN TERRY QUESTION?

MAYOR GARCIA: SURE. WE'RE IN SESSION, SO WE CAN START THE DISCUSSION.

GOODMAN: RELATIVE TO THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE, AND I BELIEVE I MADE THE SECOND, CAN I OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION THAT I SECONDED?

MAYOR GARCIA: ABSOLUTELY.

GOODMAN: OKAY. WHAT I WOULD OFFER IS ON PAGE 2 OF THE AGREEMENT TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL, UNDER RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION, SECTION A, IT SAYS 75 FEET ON EACH SIDE OF THE CENTER LINE OF SH 130 SHALL BE DEDICATED AT THE TIME THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS ARE COMPLETE FOR THE WILD HORSE P.U.D. SEGMENT OF SH 130. AND END IT THERE. A PERIOD AFTER 130.

MAYOR GARCIA: STRIKE THE REST.

GOODMAN: STRIKING ALONG THOSE AREAS, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. AND THEN STRIKING SECTION B ALTOGETHER.

A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. DID THESE PROVISIONS THAT WERE DRAFTED FOR THE ZONE IS ORDINANCES AND NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ORDINANCE, SO THE MOTION YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS FOR ADOPTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. YOU ARE FREE TO DISCUSS -- IS FOR ANNEXATION. YOU ARE FREE TO DISCUSS ALL THE ISSUES BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THE OF THEM BEFORE YOU AT THE PRESENT TIME, BUT THIS SECTION WAS REALLY DRAFTED FOR THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

GOODMAN: YOU'RE RIGHT. I FORGOT.

MAYOR GARCIA: THE MOTION IS FOR ANNEXATION. SO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR ANNEXATION? WE WILL BE CONSIDERING THE AMENDMENTS THAT MAYOR PRO TEM TALKED ABOUT, BUT IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE VOTE ON ITEMS -- WE'RE RUSHING IT BECAUSE IT'S VALENTINE'S DAY AND MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO GO HOME AND BE WITH THEIR LOVED ONES. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ITEMS 42 AND 43 FOR SECOND AND THIRD READING, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

MAYOR GARCIA: OPPOSED, NO? MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF FIVE TO ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER WYNN VOTING AGAINST. NOW WE'RE UP TO 28.

AND MAYOR, IF I CAN HELP YOU.

MAYOR GARCIA: MAYOR PRO TEM OR MS. TERRY?

I KIND OF WANTED TO HELP YOU WITH PROCEDURE AT THIS POINT ON ITEM 28. NOW WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS YOU HAVE THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED ON SECOND READING, AND THEN IT IS THE COUNCIL'S -- IF IT IS THE COUNCIL'S WILL TO ADOPT THE ADDITIONAL AGREEMENTS AND CLARIFIED PROVISIONS WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO, THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO AT THIS POINT IS YOU WOULD -- A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ZONING ORDINANCE ON THIRD READING WITH THESE ADDITIONS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. AND IN THAT MOTION IT WOULD ALSO BE APPROPRIATE IF YOU SO WISH TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO EXPLORE POST-ZONING CASE THE POSSIBILITY OF 380 AGREEMENTS AND THAT IT WOULD ALSO BE APPROPRIATE, IF YOU SO WISH AT THIS POINT, TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO BRING FORWARD AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD DEFINE SACHLT H 130 AS A SCENIC ROADWAY. AND IT WOULD ALSO BE APPROPRIATE IF YOU SO CHOSE AT THIS POINT TO APPROVE IN YOUR MOTION THE CHANGES TO THE LAND USE PLAN WHICH WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE EXHIBITS AS OUTLINED BY SUSAN VILLAREAL FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.

MAYOR GARCIA: OKAY. QUESTIONS FOR MS. TERRY? IS THERE A MOTION?

GOODMAN: THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. WHAT MS. TERRY JUST READ. MAYOR THE MOTION IS WHAT MS. TERRY JUST READ INTO THE RECORD.

WITH THE CHANGE IN PAGE 2 ON RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION. AM I CORRECT?

MAYOR GARCIA: CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT THAT WOULD BE IN PAGE 2, THE SECTION A WOULD END WITH A PERIOD AFTER SH 130 THE FIRST TIME -- THE SECOND TIME IT'S MENTIONED IN THE THIRD LINE. AND WE WOULD DELETE ALONG THE AREAS OF THE PROJECT THAT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE MAIN LANES, THE FRONTAGE ROADS ON SH 130, THAT WOULD BE STRICKEN. AND SECTION B, PART B WOULD BE STRICKEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

GOODMAN: JUST TO REITERATE, MAYOR, THAT BEING THAT THIS ALSO AS A WATER AND WASTEWATER REIMBURSEMENT COMPONENT, NOT THIS ORDINANCE, BUT THE PLAN, AND THAT STAFF WILL LOOK INTO THE ECONOMIC FEASIBILITY OF A 380 FOR THE PROJECT.

MAYOR GARCIA: MS. BROWN, DO YOU HAVE THAT?

I WILL WORK WITH MS. TERRY AND WE WILL HAVE IT.

MAYOR GARCIA: OKAY. GOOD. WELCOME, HIS LYNN. THERE ARE PORTIONS OF THE MOTION, OF COURSE, THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY REFLECTED IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF WITH THE ADDITIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE NOTED. AND THEN THE DIRECTIONS TO STAFF, WHICH WOULD SIMPLY BE PART OF THE MOTION.

MAYOR GARCIA: RIGHT. I DON'T REMEMBER WHO SECONDED THAT MOTION?

GRIFFITH: I'LL SECOND IT.

MAYOR GARCIA: SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH. DISCUSSION?

WYNN: MAYOR?

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

WYNN: REMIND ME WHAT IS MEANT BY SCENIC ROADWAY?

SUSAN OR GREG, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THE -- WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DESIGNATE SOMETHING AS A SCENIC ROADWAY.

THE RESTRICTIONS ON FINES ALONG THAT ROADWAY LIMIT HEIGHT, LIMIT SIDE AND ILLUSTRATE NATION TO BE O. O. ILLUMINATION TO BE MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING THAN WE MIGHT HAVE SOMEWHERE. USUALLY WE MAKE ROADWAYS SCENIC ROADWAYS, I THINK IN THE PAST, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, WE MADE A LOT OF ROADWAYS IN AUSTIN THAT WERE BEING EXTENDED LIKE STASSNEY EEFTED OF I-35 AND PORTIONS OF PARMER LANE, PORTIONS OF SLAUGHTER TO BECOME SCENIC ROADWAYS. AND IT REALLY JUST REDUCES THE HEIGHTS AND IMPACT OF SIGNS AND VISUAL IMPACT OF A MOTORIST DRIVING ALONG.

WYNN: BY SIGNS, YOU MEAN NON-BILLBOARDS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON PREMISE SIGNS.

OKAY.

WYNN: MS. TERRY, CAN YOU HELP ME? I SUSPECT THE DEVELOPER KNOWS WHICH -- GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHICH TRACTS WITHIN THAT P.U.D. ARE LIKELY TO GET DEVELOPED IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE AND WHICH ONES WON'T BE. DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ZONE WITHIN A P.U.D. BY CALLING IT INTERIM ZONING OR EVEN LIKE INTERIM RURAL ZONING? THAT IS, GIVING HIM THE ZONING THAT HE NEEDS TO GET GOING ON HIS HOUSING TRACTS, BUT HOLD OFF ON THE ZONING DESIGNATION THAT WILL REPLACE THE VALUE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR 130?

I'M GOING TO TRY AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION GENERALLY, BUT I'M ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO RELY HEAVILY ON STAFF, GREG GURNSEY TO HELP ME OUT WITH THIS. THE PROVISIONS OF THE CITY CODE CONCERNING P.U.D. ZONING CONTEMPLATED THE DEVELOPMENT OF A -- OF A LARGE PIECE OF LAND WITH MULTIPLE USES AS AN INTEGRATED HOLE AND NOT ON A -- AS AN INTEGRATED WHOLE AND NOT ON A TRACT BY TRACT BASIS. THIS CONTEMPLATES TREATING THIS AS A LARGE DEVELOPMENT. THE CODE IN STRUCTURING P.U.D. ZONING DID NOT CONTEMPLATE INTERIM ZONING AS WE NORMALLY THINK OF WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ANNEXATION, AND WE'RE ANNEXING LAND AND WE HAVE PIECES OUT THERE, SUBDIVISIONS OUT THERE OR WHATEVER WHERE WE ASSIGN OR CLASSIFICATIONS FOR INTERIM ON A LOT BY LOT OR TRACT BY TRACT BASIS WHERE IT'S NOT SUBDIVIDED. THE P.U.D. PROVISIONS OF THE CITY CODE CONTEMPLATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A LARGE AREA OF LAND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SORT OF -- I HATE TO USE THE WORD UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT'S THE TERM THAT COMES TO MIND THAT HAS A SPECIAL MEANING. BUT IT IS A UNIFIED WHOLE. AND IT DOES NOT -- DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR INTERIM ZONING IN THE CONTEXT THAT YOU HAVE INTERIM ZONING WHEN YOU'RE DOING ANNEXATIONS AND YOU'RE TRYING TO ASSIGN SOMETHING AS A STOPGAP MEASURE THAT AUTOMATICALLY COMES INTO PLAY BY OPERATION OF THE LAW WHEN YOU ARE IN AN ANNEXATION MODE. WE HAVE DONE LARGE DEVELOPMENT ANNEXATIONS BEFORE AND WE HAVE TIED THEM TO SOME COMPLEX ZONING STRUCTURES, BUT WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT THE WAY P.U.D. ZONING IS STRUCTURED IN THE CODE, IT JUST SIMPLY DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE INTERIM ZONING, DOESN'T CONTEMPLATE IT, DOESN'T PROVIDE FOR IT, DOESN'T ENVISION IT. QUITE FRANKLY, IT IS NOT EVEN APPROPRIATE IN THE CONTEXT OF P.U.D. ZONING. WITH THAT I'M GOING TO LET GREG KIND OF FILL IN AROUND THE EDGES TO DESCRIBE FOR YOU WHAT THE ACTUAL PROVISIONS OF THE CODE ARE.

GREG GURNSEY, NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AND ZONING. THE ISSUE ABOUT THE P.U.D. IF WE LOOKED AT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE WHOLE, SO IF IT'S CONTEMPLATED THAT PORTIONS OF THE AREA THAT ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR ZONING TODAY WOULD BE LEFT OUT, I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THE BALANCE. ALSO, I THINK THIS WAS A CONSENSUAL ANNEXATION, AND SOME OF THE PARTS OF THE AGREEMENT THAT HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT IN THE P.U.D. MAY BE I GUESS IN JEOPARDY OF THAT AGREEMENT THAT STAFF AND THE APPLICANT HAVE MADE TO THE DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF THIS P.U.D.. BUT RIGHT NOW AT THIS MOMENT UPON ANNEXATION, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED INTERIM RURAL RESIDENTIAL. AND THE IDEA OF BRINGING IT BACK NOW THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE THE REVIEW AND MADE THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION, WHAT'S BROUGHT BEFORE YOU IS THAT WHOLE PIECE. CERTAINLY THE COUNCIL COULD ZONE A PORTION OF IT, BUT THEN AGAIN, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE WHOLE PIECE COME IN BECAUSE WE'VE REVIEWED AND MADE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE WHOLE. AND I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DEFINITIVELY TELL YOU WHAT THE IMPACT IS IF YOU START REMOVING PIECES AT THIS TIME.

WYNN: OKAY. THANK YOU.

MAYOR GARCIA: FURTHER QUESTIONS, DISCUSSIONS ON THE MOTION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

MAYOR GARCIA: OPPOSED NO.

NO.

MAYOR GARCIA: THE MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF FIVE TO ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER WYNN VOTING NO.

MAYOR, MAY I SAY A WORD, MAYOR?

MAYOR GARCIA: SURE, PETE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOUR STAFF AND ALSO ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS AND COMMISSIONERS. THERE HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS PUT IN ON THIS AND THEY'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD LUCK WITH THE PROJECT. IT'S PART OF OUR DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE INITIATIVE. COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, I SEE SOME FRIENDS OF YOURS IN THE AUDIENCE, AND YOU HAVE ITEM NUMBER 35. IS THAT GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME?

[ONE MOMENT, PLEASE, WHILE CAPTIONERS CHANGE]

LAST YEAR WE ATTEMPTED TO BUILD, EVEN ON A TEMPORARY BASIS A PUBLIC RESTROOM FACILITIES IN AND AROUND EAST SIXTH STREET. WE ACTUALLY PROPOSED IT VERY NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF 6TH AND TRINITY. THIS DOWNTOWN HOMELESS SHELTER IS HALF A BLOCK AWAY FROM THAT FAILED EFFORT. MY QUESTION IS, BECAUSE THE ANSWER IS NO, SO MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE WE NOT DESIGNING INTO A DOWNTOWN MEN'S HOMELESS SHELTER THE CONCEPT OF WHAT I CALL PUBLIC RESTROOMS. THAT IS EXTERIOR ACCESSED RESTROOM FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY TO -- AT A VERY STRATEGIC LOCATIONS, RIGHT BEHIND THE ALLEYS BEHIND EAST SIXTH STREET WHERE WE HAVE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF ARRESTS EACH YEAR FOR -- FOR THAT VERY REASON.

MR. LEARY IS HERE, I THINK THAT HE CAN PARTIALLY ADDRESS THAT QUESTION. AND I HAVE SEEN -- I HAVE SEEN THE ASSISTANT CHIEF MCDONALD AROUND, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE WILL NEED HIM TO HELP YOU RESPOND TO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS. DAVID, WHY DON'T YOU START WITH --

SURE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, I'M DAVID LOWRY OF THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT. COUNCILMEMBER, IN DEVELOPING THE SHELTER, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE INVOLVED, VARIOUS STAKEHOLDER, A VERY ACTIVE DESIGN COMMITTEE. FROM TIME TO TIME, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. THE GENERAL FEELING HAS BEEN THAT IT'S PREFERABLE NOT TO MIX POPULATIONS HERE. I MEAN, THIS SHELTER IS FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON THE HOMELESS POPULATION. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME VERY STRICT RULES AND POLICIES IN TERMS OF ACCESS TO THE FACILITY. UTILIZATION AND SO FORTH. CURRENT RULES WITH THE TEMPORARY SHELTER, FOR EXAMPLE, REQUIRE THAT PEOPLE BE THERE BY A CERTAIN PERIOD AT A CERTAIN TIME IN THE EVENING. WE DON'T ALLOW, YOU KNOW, OPEN ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE EVENING FOR A LOT OF REASONS. THE CONCERN HAS BEEN THAT, ONE, WE SHOULDN'T BE MIXING, YOU KNOW, POPULATIONS WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY. IF WE WERE TO -- TO HAVE THE RESTROOMS, FOR EXAMPLE, OPEN, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE EVENING, THERE WOULD BE SAFETY AND SECURITY ISSUES AS WELL AS MAINTENANCE AND, YOU KNOW, OPERATION AND CONCERNS. PRESENTLY WE DON'T INTEND FOR THE FIRST FLOOR TO BE OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE AFTER THAT TIME IN WHICH WE REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS TO BE IN THE SHELTER. SO -- THAT'S BASICALLY BEEN THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE DESIGN COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE BEEN PROCEEDING ON THAT BASIS. I KNOW THAT A.P.D., AS THE MANAGER MENTIONED, HAD BEEN LOOKING MORE BROADLY, SO TO SPEAK, IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY IN THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AND HAD IDENTIFIED OTHER OPTIONS FOR -- FOR PUBLIC TOILET FACILITIES DOWNTOWN.

WYNN: I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE ROUTE, SAY, EAST SIXTH STREET PATRONS INTO THE HOMELESS SHELTER TO USE THE RESTROOM. IT SEEMS TO BE QUITE EASY TO DESIGN 100 SQUARE FEET INTO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING THAT COULD BE, A COUPLE OF HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM THE ACTUAL ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR THE HOMELESS SHELTER, BUT -- BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE WASTEFUL AND SILLY THAT WE ARE GOING TO -- THAT NUMEROUS DOWNTOWN GROUPS, INCLUDING THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, HAVE ENDORSED THE IDEA OF PUBLIC RESTROOM FACILITIES. WE TRIED TO DO IT AT 6TH AND TRINITY, BUT WE DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WERE FOLKS LIVING RIGHT ABOVE WHERE WE WERE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY BEING A TEMPORARY PORT-A-CAN SORT OF RESTROOM FACILITY WHERE NOW LESS THAN HALF A BLOCK AWAY, WE ARE GOING TO BE BUILDING A NEW STRUCTURE AND -- I JUST -- I JUST -- SEEMS TO ME IF WE WERE GOING TO SPEND SOME MONEY REDESIGNING THIS BECAUSE OF GREAT STREETS, WE SHOULD HAVE CHALLENGED EVERYBODY AND FIGURED OUT WHY WE ARE NOT GETTING A PUBLIC RESTROOM AT THAT LOCATION. BUT -- IF THE DESIGN TEAM HAS COME UP WITH A CONSENSUS NOT TO DO THAT, THEN SO BE IT. IF THAT'S THE ANSWER, THEN --

THAT'S CERTAINLY THE CASE AT THE PRESENT TIME, YES, SIR.

WYNN: OKAY, MAYOR, I GUESS THAT I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM NO. 35.

MAYOR GARCIA: MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER WYNN TO APPROVE ITEM NO. 35, IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH. DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED, NO. MOTION CARRIES. THAT LEAVES ITEMS 22, 23, 24, 25. WHICH ALL RELATE TO -- TO THE TAX ANTICIPATION NOTES AND RELATED ISSUES. MR. CITY MANAGER.

GARZA: MAYOR, WE HAVE BOTH THE BUDGET OFFICER, RUDY GARZA HERE AND JOHN STEVENS DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND -- WE HAVE MADE NUMEROUS PRESENTATIONS ON THIS, I SEE OUR TREASURY WALKING IN. WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. THAT LEAVES COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO DISPOSE OF THE ITEMS THE WAY WE PROPOSED, WHETHER YOU WANT TO AMEND THOSE, WE WILL TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ON WHY IT IS THAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED WHAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED.

MAYOR GARCIA: MAYOR PRO TEM, HAVE -- IF YOU RECOGNIZE ME FOR A MOTION, I WILL PUT IT IN PLACE, THEN WE WILL CONSIDER THE AMENDMENTS THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING.

GOODMAN: YES, MAYOR.

MAYOR GARCIA: I'M GOING TO MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEMS 22, 23, 24 AND 25. AND COUNCILMEMBERS SLUSHER AND ALVAREZ HAVE -- HAVE COMMENCED AMENDMENTS -- COMMENTS, AMENDMENTS AND OTHER THINGS, I THOUGHT TO BEGIN THE DISCUSSION WE WOULD PUT THOSE ON THE TABLE. AND SEE IF WE CAN BEGIN FROM THERE.

GOODMAN: THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM THE MAYOR. FOR APPROVAL OF 22, 23, 24, 25, IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ. COMMENT FROM THE MAKER OF THE MOTION?

MAYOR GARCIA: WE HAVE -- 22 IS AN ORDINANCE AND 25 IS AN ORDINANCE. SO -- SO LET ME RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER, FIRST, FOR QUESTIONS AND -- AND COMMENTS AND AMENDMENTS AND THEN WE CAN GO TO COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ. COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER.

SLUSHER: WELL, MAYOR, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE, DOES IT INCLUDE COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ'S --

MAYOR GARCIA: NO, NOT YET.

SLUSHER: OKAY.

MAYOR GARCIA: IF YOU WANT TO I WILL RECOGNIZE HIM FOR THE AMENDMENTS AND GO FROM THERE.

SLUSHER: WELL, HOLD OFF JUST A SECOND. I WAS GOING TO ASK THE STAFF HOW -- IF WE DIDN'T ADD THAT IN, HOW DOES THE STAFF PLAN TO DEAL WITH THOSE --

MAYOR GARCIA: JOHN AND RUDY, IF YOU COULD COME AND -- AND DENNIS, IF YOU COULD ALSO COME UP. THERE'S SPACES FOR THREE OF YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER, IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR CORRECTION -- YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, LET ME TRY TO ANSWER IT THIS WAY: MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE AMENDMENT THAT COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ IS GOING TO PROPOSE IS THAT IT WOULD ADD 1.2 MILLION BACK TO THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE AND THEN THROUGH A FUTURE ACTION, $600,000 WOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE FOR THE BASIC NEEDS, SOCIAL SERVICES. FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THAT -- THAT WOULD MITIGATE SOMEWHAT MORE THE PROBLEM THAT WE FACE NEXT YEAR IN TERMS OF THE -- OF A SHORTFALL, ADDING BACK TO THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE. WITH THE ITEM AS PROPOSED, WE WILL NEED TO -- TO MAKE UP 2.4 MILLION FOR THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE NEXT YEAR, RATHER THAN 1.2.

SLUSHER: OKAY, IT --

OR 600,000 IS THE NET AMOUNT WOULD END UP.

SLUSHER: THEN BUT THE -- THE NEEDS THAT THAT'S TRYING TO ADDRESS WOULD THOSE JUST GO UNMET.

WE WOULD HAVE TO -- TO DRAW DOWN THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE FURTHER IF -- IF COUNCIL PASSED AN ITEM TO -- TO PROVIDE THAT -- THAT MONEY TO -- TO THE C.A.N.

THEN AFTER THE -- AFTER OUR DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, THE STAFF LOWERED THE AMOUNT OF THE TAX ANTICIPATION INCREASE, BUT THEN THIS RAISES IT BACK UP BUT NOT AS HIGH AS IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION, IS THAT CORRECT?

THAT'S CORRECT.

SLUSHER: GO THROUGH THAT FOR ME.

WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED THE -- THE TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE AT $8 MILLION TO FUND THE ENTIRE $2.8 MILLION SHORTFALL IN THE SALES TAX AND THE ENTIRE 5.2 MILLION THAT WE ARE INCURRING IN UNANTICIPATED HOMELAND SECURITY COSTS. COUNCIL SAW THE PRESENTATION WE GAVE AND ASKED US TO COME BACK WITH SOME ALTERNATIVES, LOOKING AT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE INSTEAD OF FUNDING THE ENTIRE AMOUNT WITH THE TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE. SO WE BROUGHT FORWARD THREE OTHER ALTERNATIVES. ONE OF WHICH WAS WAS TO ISSUE A TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE IN THE AMOUNT OF 5.6, THAT WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH TAKING MONEY FROM THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE AND -- AND 800,000 ISSUED IN CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS FOR THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS PART OF THE HOMELAND SECURITY COSTS. AND ANOTHER OPTION WAS TO -- TOOK IT FURTHER DOWN TO 4.8 MILLION AND THAT WAS TO TAKE 2.4 MILLION FROM THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE, 800,000 IN CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AND THE REMAINDER FROM THE TEXAS ANTICIPATION NOTE. AND THEN THE FINAL THIRD ALTERNATIVE WAS TO -- RATHER THAN SHOOT FOR ACCUMULATING 13.5 MILLION IN DEPARTMENTAL SAVINGS THAT WE HAD HOPED TO CARRY OVER TO HELP US WITH OUR '03 BUDGET, TO FUND THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OUT OF THAT.

SLUSHER: WITH THE PROPOSED INCREASES, WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA, WHAT'S IN THIS MOTION IS BEFORE US IS BEFORE COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT, WHAT'S THE COST IMPACT ON THE AVERAGE HOME OWNER?

I THINK RUDY HAS -- HAS --

THE CURRENT PROPOSAL AS IT IS, ON THE AGENDA IS 99 CENTS A MONTH FOR THE AVERAGE HOME, BUT HOME IS $12 YEAR.

$12, 11.88 A YEAR.

CORRECT.

SLUSHER: AND COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ'S AMENDMENT WOULD ADD HOW MUCH TO THAT.

THAT WOULD ADD 33 CENTS A MONTH, ABOUT ANOTHER $4 A YEAR.

SLUSHER: OKAY. SO 1.33 TOTAL. TOTAL $1.33 A MONTH?

$1.23. 99 CENTS PLUS 33 CENTS.

SLUSHER: 1.32.

CORRECT.

THE ANNUAL IMPACT TO THE AVERAGE HOME IS ABOUT $16.

SLUSHER: OKAY. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT IS IT THAT -- COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ? 6 MILLION AND HOW MUCH -- HOW MUCH SOCIAL NEEDS ARE WE MEETING WITH THAT? I THINK THAT'S -- I'M SORRY?

MAYOR GARCIA: THE TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE -- IS 1.2 MILLION, THE -- THE MOTION THAT I HAVE ON THE TABLE PRODUCES 3.7 -- 3.57 OR 3.6 MILLION IN -- IN TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE AMOUNT. THE AMENDMENT THAT COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ HAS PROPOSED ON THIS SHEET THAT'S BEEN DISTRIBUTED TAKES THAT TO 4.8, GIVING THE ADDITIONAL 1 TONIGHT 2 MILLION -- 1.2 MILLION TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT FROM CONTINGENCY RESERVE AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER MOTION FOR THE 6:0000,000.

YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.

SLUSHER: THAT'S ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. I MIGHT HAVE REMARKS LATER, MAYOR.

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ?

ALVAREZ: YES, MAYOR. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHY IT GOT PUT ON THE AGENDA THE WAY IT DID, BUT WHAT WE ARE REALLY DOING HERE IS STAFF PROPOSED A 1.66 TAX INCREASE. THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED ALL ALONG. BUT THE ACTION THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE TODAY IS GOING TO SAY WE ARE REDUCING THAT FROM 1.66 TO 1.0, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM STATES. BUT IT -- IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT WE USE AS MUCH CONTINGENCY AND IT ALLOWS US TO MEET SOME OF OUR SOCIAL SERVICE NEEDS. SO REALLY THE ACTIONS WE ARE TAKING TODAY IS NOT WE ARE INCREASING TAXES, IT'S WE ARE LOWERING THE -- THE AMOUNT WE HAD THOUGHT THAT WE NEEDED TO INCREASE FROM 1.66 TO 1.0, AND WE ARE ABLE TO -- WE ARE GOING TO -- YOU KNOW, THE REASON THAT WE ARE ABLE TO BRING IT DOWN FROM 8.5 MILLION TO ABOUT 4.8 MILLION IS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO SAVE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE EXACT AMOUNT IS, MAYBE THAT -- I THINK THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER WAS TRYING TO SPELL OUT WAS WE ARE GOING TO TAKE SOME FROM CONTINGENCY, UNDER MY PROPOSAL THAT WOULD ONLY BE -- I THINK THAT WOULD GO DOWN TO 1.2 MILLION INSTEAD OF 2.4 MILLION. AND THEN WE ARE TAKING SOME -- WE ARE DOING SOME SAVINGS AND THEN WE ARE DOING SOME THROUGH THE BOND SALE. THAT'S WHAT REALLY WATER DOING RIGHT HERE, IS WE ARE SAYING WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT OUT, WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE TAXPAYER PAY FOR ALL OF THIS, WE ARE GOING TO SAVE SOME MONEY, DO SOME THROUGH BONDS AND WE ARE GOING TO USE A LITTLE LESS FROM THE CONTINGENCY THAN THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS PUT ON THE TABLE FOR THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA AND SO I THINK AGAIN THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM SOME FOLKS IS WE DON'T WANT TO RAISE TAXES. SO THE DISCUSSION UP TO THIS POINT HAS BEEN 1.66, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO RAISE IN ORDER TO MEET THE NEEDS AND SO WITH THE COUNCIL, AT LEAST WHAT'S ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW, WHAT THE COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING IS NOT 1.66, BUT 1.0 AND SO AGAIN, I THINK IT'S MUCH BETTER APPROACH THAN -- THAN COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY TRYING TO APPROACH THIS IN TERMS OF A TAX INCREASE FOR THE -- FOR THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN. AND SO THAT'S WHY I MYSELF AM SUPPORTING THIS APPROACH AND WOULD LIKE FOR -- FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER MY AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO -- TO I THINK MEET SOME OF THE SOCIAL SERVICE NEEDS THAT HAVE ARISEN AS A RESULT OF SEPTEMBER 11TH AND ALSO USE LESS OF A CONTINGENCY, GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE ALL KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT NEXT BUDGET YEAR, NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, WHERE WE ARE GOING TO FIND THAT MONEY TO REPLACE -- REPLENISH THAT FUND. SO I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD WHAT EXACTLY WE ARE DOING.

MAYOR GARCIA: WE ARE READY FOR YOUR AMENDMENTS. SO FIRE THEM AWAY, FIRE AWAY.

THE FIRST AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO INCREASE THE TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE FROM 3.75 MILLION TO 4.8 MILLION --

MAYOR GARCIA: LET ME GO AHEAD, THAT'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT SINCE I MADE THE MOTION TO DO THIS, I CONSIDER THAT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. I DON'T REMEMBER WHO SECONDED THAT. YOU SECONDED THAT -- -- WAS IT YOU OR THE MAYOR PRO TEM?

ALVAREZ: THAT'S RIGHT. IT WAS MY SECOND.

MAYOR GARCIA: ALL RIGHT. THE SECOND ONE.

THE SERIOUS THE SECOND --

ALVAREZ: THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS TO DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE UTILIZED FROM HOMELAND SECURITY FROM 2.4 MILLION TO 1.2 MILLION.

MAYOR GARCIA: THE ADDITIONAL 1 TONIGHT 2 MILLION FUNDING -- 1.2 MILLION IS COMING FROM TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE. BASICALLY YOU ARE TAKING TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE MONEY TO -- TO FILL THE GAP AND YOU ARE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF -- THAT WE ARE TAKING FROM THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE. I CONSIDER THAT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

ALVAREZ: THE THIRD AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO AMEND THE -- OUR CURRENT BUDGET BY UTILIZING A -- 600,000 FROM CONTINGENCY RESERVE TO FUND THE CITY'S MATCHING CONTRIBUTION FOR THE COMMUNITY ACTION NETWORK'S INCREASED SOCIAL SERVICE NEEDS.

MAYOR GARCIA: OKAY. LET ME DO THIS ON THAT ONE, COUNCILMEMBER, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU.

ALVAREZ: YES.

MAYOR GARCIA: I -- 22 IS THE ORDINANCE AND IN HE SENSE THAT ORDINANCE SAYS THAT WE ARE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A SALE PRIOR TO APRIL 19TH, AN AMENDMENT TO EXCEED 3.57, THAT ITEM I THINK NEEDS TO BE TAKEN UP FIRST BECAUSE THAT IS AN ORDINANCE AND REQUIRES 5 VOTES IF WE ARE GOING TO PASS IT ON ALL THREE READINGS. SO -- SO LET ME WITHDRAW MY ORIGINAL MOTION FOR ALL OF THE ITEMS AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 22 WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS MADE BY COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ. MAYOR PRO TEM, I DIDN'T ASK YOU TO -- TO RECOGNIZE ME, BUT I WENT AHEAD AND MADE THAT NOTHING.

GOODMAN: THAT WAS A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND?

ALVAREZ: SECOND.

GOODMAN: COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ SECONDS.

MAYOR GARCIA: OKAY. DISCUSSION ON THAT PARTICULAR MOTION?

GRIFFITH: MAYOR, I HAVE A TRUCK QUESTION, IS THIS A GOOD TIME TO ASK IT.

MAYOR GARCIA: IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS.

GRIFFITH: ON THE HOMELAND SECURITY COSTS, I JUST NEEDED A CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS UNIT AND WHEN IT'S GOING TO COME IN. THE PERSONNEL AND THE EQUIPMENT ARE -- ARE 224,641 DOLLARS. AND THE TRAINING AND OVERTIME AND INSTRUCTORS ARE 275,400 DOLLARS, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF ABOUT A HALF A MILLION. WHEN WILL THAT EQUIPMENT COME IN?

WE HAVE ONE MODEL OF THE REST EXCUSE TRUCK THAT WILL TAKE A YEAR TO GET IN. THEN THERE'S ANOTHER MODEL THAT CAN GET IN A LITTLE BIT QUICKER THAN THAT, BUT IT WILL STILL BE MOST OF A YEAR.

GRIFFITH: BEFORE THE -- BEFORE THE HAZMAT EQUIPMENT IS IN?

BEFORE THE -- BEFORE THE VEHICLE WILL BE DELIVERED. A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT CAN COME EARLIER THAN THAT.

GRIFFITH: OKAY. I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY THERE WAS A HALF A MILLION IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR -- FOR IT IF IT'S NOT COMING FOR A YEAR.

THE PERSONNEL WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE IMMEDIATELY AND THE -- THE EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD BE ORDERED FOR THE TRUCK WOULD BE ORDERED IMMEDIATELY AND THEN I DON'T KNOW HOW THE -- HOW -- WHEN WE PURCHASE VEHICLES, I'M NOT SURE HOW THE MONEY IS PAID OUT FOR THAT, BUT JUST THE TRUCK ALONE COSTS ALMOST HALF A MILLION.

GRIFFITH: SO YOU DO NEED THE HALF A MILLION FOR THE TRUCK THAT'S COMING NEXT YEAR IN THIS CAREER'S BUDGET?

WELL, I'M SORRY THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE MONEY IS PAID OUT PER VEHICLE, BUT I KNOW SOME AMOUNT OF THAT MONEY HAS TO BE PAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE ORDER. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE REST IS DUE.

BASICALLY YOU DO THE ORDERING HERE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. YOU ARE TALKING IT WILL BE DELIVERED NEXT SPRING. YOU ARE GOING TO BE PASSING THE SUBSEQUENT ITEM 23 IS A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION WHICH AUTHORIZES US TO ENCUMBER THE MONEY SO WE CAN TELL THE MANUFACTURER WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE BANK TO PAY FOR THAT WHEN THE TRUCK GETS DELIVERED. YOU WILL THEN BE SELLING THIS NOTE BASICALLY RAISING THE TAX RATE, RATHER, IN THE -- IN ADDITION YOU WILL BE DOING THE TAX RATE IN THE FALL. SO THAT YOU CAN PAY BACK THAT NOTE AND THE MONEYS THERE AND YOU ARE DONE. THAT'S HOW THIS TRANSACTION IS WORKING. SO HE'S RIGHT. HE WILL BE HIRING FOLKS IMMEDIATELY, ENCUMBERING MONEY IMMEDIATELY. THAT'S THE PROCESS.

GRIFFITH: THE REASON THAT I WAS ASKING IS IT'S PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT ARE 220, ALMOST 225,000. THEN TRAINING AND OVERTIME ARE 275. SO YOU NEED TO DO THAT BEFORE THE MACHINE, BEFORE THE BIG THING COMES?

RIGHT. WE WILL NEED THAT RIGHT AWAY.

GRIFFITH: OKAY. JUST NEEDED TO CHECK ON THAT. SOUNDED LIKE A LOT OF MONEY BEFORE THE TRUCK COMES. BUT -- MAYBE NOT. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS ABOUT A MILLION, IT'S THE HEAVY RESCUE UNIT. AND IT HAS PERSONNEL FOR 360,000, THE -- THE APPARATUS, THE TRUCK ITSELF, 525,000, AND THEN EQUIPMENT IS 100,000 AND THEN MAINTENANCE IS 10,000 FOR A TOTAL OF ALMOST A MILLION, 995. DO WE NEED THAT IN -- ALL OF THAT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET? WHEN IS THAT ONE GOING TO COME.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN I SAID IT'S ALMOST A YEAR FOR THE VEHICLE TO BE DELIVERED. BUT WE WOULD PUT THE ACTUAL RESPONSE UNIT IN SERVICE RIGHT AWAY. THAT WOULD BE A JOINT RESPONSE UNIT THAT IS STAFFED NOT ONLY WITH FIREFIGHTERS, BUT ALSO WITH PARAMEDICS FROM THE E.M.S. DEPARTMENT. SO IT WOULD BE A JOINT RESPONSE UNIT THAT WOULD START OPERATING IMMEDIATELY, AND GOING TO ALL OF THE MAJOR CALLS. AND SUPPLYING ASSISTANCE IN THAT WAY.

AND THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS ONE?

NO, IT'S THE SAME ONE.

GRIFFITH: IS IT THE SAME ONE?

IT'S THE SAME ONE. THERE IS A TEAM, THOUGH, THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS TEAM IS OUR WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION TEAM THAT WE PUT TOGETHER FOR THE TERRORISM TASK FORCE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT DEAL. THAT'S A SEPARATE DEAL. THE RESCUE UNITS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE HEAVY RESCUE IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW WITH THE TRUCK AND THE PARAMEDICS AND FIREFIGHTERS.

GRIFFITH: RIGHT THE 525,000-DOLLAR THING, THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND THEN A LOT OF PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT.

YES.

GRIFFITH: I WAS JUST WONDERING IF ALL THAT EXPENSE WAS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS YEAR, BUT YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT IT IS.

WE ARE GOING TO PUT THEM IN SERVICE IMMEDIATELY. ON A DIFFERENT VEHICLE, BUT THEN WHEN THE SPECIALIZED VEHICLE GETS HERE, THEY WILL MOVE OVER TO THE SPECIALIZED VEHICLE AND BE FULLY FUNCTIONAL.

GRIFFITH: OKAY. AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CASUALTY TRAILERS AND INCREASED OVERTIME AND TRAINING FOR THAT. AND -- PUT TOGETHER 239,000. THAT'S IN THE -- IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

THE MASS CASUALTY TRAILER, THAT'S TWO TRAILERS, THEY ARE $40,000 EACH. THAT REALLY IS A -- ENOUGH EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO START ORDERING NOW TO HAVE TO TREAT BETWEEN 50 AND 150 PATIENTS AT A SINGLE EVENT. RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T DO THAT. AND THEN THE OVERTIME, A LOT OF THAT MONEY WAS SPENT IN DECEMBER. FOR -- FOR A THREE HOUR MASS DESTRUCTION COURSE FOR ALL OF OUR UNIFORMED STAFF. WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 1.5 TO 2.5 HOURS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE SOMETIME, PROBABLY AROUND APRIL OR MAY TIME PERIOD TO TRAIN THE CREWS ONCE SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT WE HAVE ORDERED THROUGH THE GRANT BECOMES AVAILABLE.

GRIFFITH: ALL OF THAT EXPENSE DOES NEED TO HAPPEN IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET?

YES, MA'AM.

GRIFFITH: JUST NEEDED TO CHECK ON THAT.

GOODMAN: MAYOR, I HAVE ONE MECHANICAL QUESTION, ALSO.

MAYOR GARCIA: MAYOR PRO TEM?

GOODMAN: WE ARE POINTING TO TAXES TO BE GATHERED NEXT YEAR AS COLLATERAL. IN A SENSE, WE ARE USING TAXES THAT WE KNOW COULD BE RAISED, BUT WILL COME IN NEXT YEAR. I MEAN THE TAX RATE COULD BE RAISED, BUT IT'S TAX THAT WILL BE TAKEN INTO CITY COFFERS NEXT YEAR, LIKE COLLATERAL, WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF US YET.

THAT'S CORRECT, MAYOR PRO TEM.

GOODMAN: BUT IT'S LIKE RAIN, SOONER OR LATER, THAT HAPPENS. IS THERE ANY PRECLUSION BY DOING THIS FOR US FINDING OTHER RESOURCES TO PAY THAT NOTE WHEN IT COMES TIME?

NO, THERE'S NOT. YOU COULD USE OTHER RESOURCES IF -- IF OTHER RESOURCES WERE AVAILABLE AT THE TIME WHEN THE NOTE BECOMES DUE, YOU COULD USE THOSE OTHER RESOURCES.

GARZA: FOR INSTANCE, I REMEMBER IN THE '95-'96 BUDGET, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY COUNCIL HAD SAID WHEN THE BCCP BONDS WERE SOLD, IN THE '92 BOND PROGRAMS WERE SOLD, THAT YOU WOULD RAISE THE DEBT SERVICE RATE TO PAY FOR THOSE BONDS. THE DECISION WAS MADE NOT TO DO THAT, AND TO EAT THAT EXPENSE OUT OF THE OPERATING ACCOUNT. SO IN EFFECT WHAT THAT MEANT IS THE O AND M RATE ENDED UP PAYING BACK THE DEBT SERVICE FOR THAT. YOU MADE A TRANSFER FROM THE OPERATING FUND INTO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND SO THAT THE DEBT SERVICE CAN BE PAID. WHAT I WILL SAY TO YOU WHEN YOU DO THAT, THAT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE LESS DOLLARS TO SPEND ON THE OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE SIDE AND YOU SHORT YOURSELF. WHAT THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE, WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN -- HAS BEEN GREAT IS THAT YOU MADE THE COMMITMENT IN '98 AND -- THAT YOU WOULD SELL BONDS AND RAISE THE TAXES APPROPRIATELY, PAY BACK THOSE BONDS SO YOU WOULDN'T BE ROBBING THE OPERATING FUND TO PAY FOR THAT. WHEN YOU HAVE DONE THAT, YOU HAVE DONE THAT CONSISTENTLY EACH ISSUE. AS WE TOLD THE VOTERS THAT WE WOULD WHEN WE PUT THE INITIAL PACKAGE BEFORE YOU.

GOODMAN: I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT -- THAT MEDIA OR PEOPLE WATCHING THIS OR PEOPLE WHO READ THE PAPER LATER UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT AN INCREASE IN TAXES DONE AT A DIFFERENT TIME IN THE PROCESS. AND -- THAN WOULD NORMALLY BE DONE. WE HAVE NOT MADE A DECISION TO RAISE TAXES BY TAKING THIS ACTION. THAT HAPPENS DURING THE PROCESS.

IF -- IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT CAUSE THE TAX RATE TO GO DOWN AND -- IN OTHER AREAS, THEN -- THEN I THINK THAT IS THE CASE. WE WILL -- WHEN WE SET OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE, WE SET THAT BASED ON WHAT OUR OBLIGATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY IN THAT YEAR ARE. AND SO THIS WILL BECOME ONE OF THOSE OBLIGATIONS. IF WE DECIDE TO USE ANOTHER REVENUE SOURCE TO PAY FOR THAT OBLIGATION, THEN -- THEN TO THAT EXTENT YOU ARE CORRECT.

GOODMAN: RIGHT.

GARZA: MAYOR PRO TEM, THE ONLY REVENUE SOURCE THAT I COULD SEE WOULD BE THE OPERATING ACCOUNT. YOU WOULD FIND ADDITIONAL SAVINGS IN THE OPERATING ACCOUNT, YOU WOULD MAKE ADDITIONAL CUTS WITHIN THE BUDGET TO DO THAT, YOU WOULD PERHAPS BE ABLE TO -- YOU MAYBE HAVE A WINDFALL IN TERMS OF SALES TAX THAT COMES IN THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SET ASIDE FOR THIS DEBT SERVICE. BUT WHAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH IS YOUR OPTIONS ARE TO FIND ADDITIONAL REVENUE ON THE OPERATING BUDGET SIDE AND THEN MOVE MONEY FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET INTO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND TO PAY -- BUT THE OBLIGATION IS THERE. YOU CAN FIND -- THERE'S ALWAYS DIFFERENT WAYS TO DEAL WITH THAT. IT'S THE GENERAL FUND THAT IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS.

WYNN: MAYOR?

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

WYNN: I WILL GO BACK TO SOME EARLIER QUESTIONS THAT I'VE HAD. WE WERE TOLD THAT -- WELL, ONE, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A TAX RATE INCREASE. AND I JUST REALIZED THAT BASED ON THE MAYOR PRO TEM'S COMMENTS, TECHNICALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING IS SIGNING A TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE. WHEN EXACTLY IS THAT NOTE DUE?

IT WILL BE DUE ONE YEAR FROM THE TIME WE RECEIVE THE PROCEEDS FROM THE TIME OF THE NOTICE.

WYNN: DO WE HAVE THE OPTION TO PAY IT EARLIER?

CERTAINLY.

WYNN: SO NO GREATER THAN ONE YEAR FROM THE DATE THAT YOU SELL IT OR THE DATE THAT WE APPROVE IT?

FROM THE DATE OF SALE.

WYNN: DATE OF SALE. BUT -- BUT I MEAN THE FACT OF THAT -- THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC 1.6 CENTS TAX RATE INCREASE PROPOSAL INITIALLY AND -- AND I BELIEVE THAT COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ'S ADJUSTMENT IS MAKING AN ASSUMPTION OF A -- OF A VERY SPECIFIC TAX RATE INCREASE, ARE YOU SAYING BY TAKING THE ACTION TONIGHT WE ARE NOT DETERMINING THE MAKEUP OF HOW WE PAY THAT ANTICIPATION NOTE BACK?

YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO PAY THAT BACK IN ANY LAWFUL WAY, WHICH WOULD BE -- AS THE CITY MANAGER HAS SAID, IT COULD INCLUDE A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND IF YOU WANT TO STRUCTURE THE BUDGET THAT WAY NEXT YEAR. BUT -- BUT THE QUESTION WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE WHERE WOULD THE MONEY COME FROM FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

WYNN: RIGHT. BUT WE ARE NOT VOTING ON A TAX RATE THIS EVENING?

THAT'S RIGHT. YOU WILL VOTE TO SET THE TAX RATE AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2003. WHAT YOU ARE DOING THIS EVENING IS UNDERTAKING AN OBLIGATION TO REPAY WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ HAS PROPOSED, TO REPAY AN OBLIGATION IN THE AMOUNT OF 4.8 MILLION. FOR NEXT YEAR.

WYNN: ALL RIGHT.

WHICH CAN BE REPAID FROM THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE.

WYNN: OKAY. EARLIER MR. GARZA SAID THAT THAT REPRESENTED YOU KNOW 99 CENTS PER MONTH PER AVERAGE HOME PRICE, I GUESS, IN AUSTIN.

THAT WAS AS -- AS WRITTEN ON THE ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION OF 3.57 MILLION. THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL -- IN MOVING FROM 3.57 TO 4.8 MILLION, IT TAKES IT UP FROM 99 CENTS A MONTH, ADDS AN ADDITIONAL 33 CENTS A MONTH TO -- TO A DOLLAR -- TO $1.32 A MONTH.

WYNN: THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE $16 OR SO PER YEAR. IT STRIKES ME AS BEING LOW, BECAUSE IT SOMETIMES TO -- SEEMS TO ME THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT APPROXIMATELY A 3% TAX RATE INCREASE IF THAT'S HOW WE FUND THESE NOTES NEXT YEAR. WHAT DO YOU SHOW AS THE AVERAGE -- THE CURRENT TAX BURDEN ON THE AVERAGE HOME OWNER IN AUSTIN?

...>GARZA: WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST IS USED THE MEDIAN -- IS IT -- THE AVERAGE OR THE MEDIAN? WE USE A VALUE --

WE USE THE AVERAGE.

GARZA: ON THAT AVERAGE, BASED ON THE $100 VALUATION FOR WHAT OUR TAX RATE IS. AND WHAT THIS INCREMENT WOULD ADD TO THAT.

BASED ON THE AVERAGE HOME VALUE OF $158,000, THE CITY OF AUSTIN TAXPAYERS' AVERAGE TAX BILL IS ABOUT $727.

GARZA: FOR ALL OF THEM.

BASED ON THE CURRENT TAX RATE OF 45.97.

WYNN: ONE SIDE NOTE, DIE WANT TO REMIND OUR COLLEAGUES THAT AISD RAISED THEIR TAX RATE THIS WEEK OR LAST WEEK. SO THIS WILL BE A SECOND TAX RATE INCREASE ON HOMEOWNERS IN AUSTIN IF INDEED WE ANTICIPATE USING THE TAX RATE INCREASE TO PAY BACK THE NOTE. WHEN THE ANALYSIS CAME BACK THAT -- THAT WITH THE STAFF PROPOSAL THIS WEEK THAT INCLUDED THE 1.2 MILLION DOLLARS IN WHAT I WOULD CALL EXPENSE SAVINGS, IT ENDS UP ALL OF THOSE EXPENSE SAVINGS WERE FROM OUR HEALTH AND OUR E.M.S. DEPARTMENTS AND THEY -- THEY BASICALLY ARE VACANCY SAVINGS. WAS THAT 1.2 MILLION DOLLARS PART OF THE $8 MILLION SCENARIO THAT WE WERE GIVEN IN THE WORK SESSION?

NO, IT WASN'T. WHEN WE INITIALLY BROUGHT THAT $8 MILLION NUMBER FORWARD, WE WERE -- WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THE SAVINGS THAT WERE AVAILABLE. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING TO BOND COUNCIL ABOUT SETTING THE NOTE AT 8 MILLION, BACK IN NOVEMBER AND THEN PRESENTED IT TO YOU IN DECEMBER TO COUNCIL, WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THOSE SAVINGS AT THAT TIME.

WYNN: RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT STRUCK ME BECAUSE WHEN -- YOU KNOW, WHEN I AND SOME OTHER COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGED THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR EXPENSE SIDE OF OUR BUDGET, YOU SEE THE -- THE RIFLE SHOT TRAJECTORY WE ARE SHOWING OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS OF OUR EXPENSE GROWTH PATTERN, WE ASKED FOR A SCENARIO, VERY PAINFUL GUT WRENCHING SCENARIO, TAKE ALL 8 MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF -- YOU KNOW, WHAT WE GENERALLY CALL BUDGET CUTS, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL CAME UP WITH $8 MILLION AND IT DIDN'T INCLUDE EVEN THE 1.2 THAT NOW WE ARE BEING SHOWN AS THE EXPENSE SAVINGS ON -- ON AT LEAST THE SCENARIO IN FRONT OF US. AND FRANKLY IT'S FROM A DEPARTMENT THAT I -- YOU KNOW, THAT I WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE LOOKED AT INITIALLY. JUST KNOWING WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES IN THIS CITY. THEN PUBLIC SAFETY BEING SORT OF THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THIS WHOLE ANALYSIS. SO IT STRIKES ME THAT -- THAT -- YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE AN $8 MILLION COST SAVINGS SCENARIO, THEN THE NEXT WEEK WHEN WE GET A PROPOSAL IT INCLUDES AN ADDITIONAL $1.2 MILLION IN SAVINGS AND SO I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE THAT WE -- YOU KNOW, HAVEN'T LOOKED UNDER EVERY ROCK. EVEN IF WE HAVE LOOKED UNDER EVERY ROCK, WHETHER WE HAVE CHALLENGED OURSELVES ON WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO ALTER THAT EXPENSE TRA CORRECT THE EARLIER WE ALTER THAT, THE LESS PAINFUL IT IS IN THE FUTURE YEARS. TRAJECTORY. I'M SORT OF FRUSTRATED BY THAT'S SPECT OF THE EXPENSE SIDE -- ASPECT OF THE EXPENSE SAVINGS OF THE EQUATION.

COUNCILMEMBER, AS WE HAVE SAID ALL ALONG THE STRATEGY THAT WE PROPOSE WITH THE $8 MILLION TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE IS -- IS ONE THAT WE THINK POSITIONS US BEST FOR NEXT YEAR AND AVOIDS LAYOFFS FOR THIS YEAR. AND AS WE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN I BELIEVE IN THE LAST WORK SESSION, ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES THAT COULD BE DONE THAT WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND WOULD BE TO TRY TO SAVE AN ADDITIONAL $8 MILLION THIS YEAR. CARRY THE FULL 13 AND A HALF MILLION OVER FOR NEXT YEAR TO HELP US GET THROUGH NEXT YEAR WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE -- TO MAKE THAT MANY MORE CUTS FOR NEXT YEAR. BUT I DON'T -- WE COULD NOT SAVE AN ADDITIONAL $8 MILLION THIS YEAR ABOVE THAT 13 AND A HALF WITHOUT HAVING TO LAY OFF CITY EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

WYNN: WHAT DOES OUR PAY FOR PERFORMANCE LINE ITEM COST US EACH YEAR?

ABOUT 7 MILLION, TO THE AGAIN RAM FUND, I BELIEVE. -- TO THE GENERAL FUND, I BELIEVE, ABOUT 7 MILLION.

WYNN: SO YOU ARE SAYING WE CAN'T FIND THE EXPENSE CUTS. YET IF EVERY CITY EMPLOYEE HAD THEIR SALARY FROZEN FOR ONE YEAR, NOBODY LOST A JOB, THAT'S THE NUMBER THERE.

GARZA: THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION THAT THE COUNCIL OUGHT TO HOLD IN ITS POCKET AS PART OF ITS DELIBERATION FOR THE BUDGET OF '03. YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THAT ABILITY TO SAY, I THOUGHT THE NUMBER WAS 9, BUT IT'S -- WHETHER IT'S 7 OR 9 MILLION FOR THE THREE AND A HALF OR 5%, THAT AUTO A RECKONING THAT YOU HAVE TO COME WHEN YOU PUT THE PAY PACKAGE TOGETHER IN LIGHT THAT YOU HAVE SEVERAL OTHER CONTRACTS THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. I THINK YOU COULD REDUCE THAT TO SAY WE ARE JUST GOING TO DO A COST OF LIVING OF 2.5% OR WHATEVER THE RATE OF INFLATION IS, YOU COULD SAVE HALF THAT..... THAT MONEY. BUT I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY THIS DECISION TODAY IS NECESSARILY GOING TO SAVE YOU FROM HAVING TO MAKE THAT KIND OF A DECISION FOR THE '03 BUDGET. THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED FOR PERFORMANCE FISCAL YEAR '03 HAS BEEN DEALT WITH, IT'S OUT, THAT HAPPENS AT THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY OF EVERY YEAR. THAT'S BEEN DONE. BUT YOU COULD DO IT FOR NEXT YEAR, THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU LOOK AT. YOU COULD LOOK AT A LOT OF OTHER THING, OBVIOUSLY. COUNCILMEMBER, YOU MAY MA A VERY GOOD POINT. I THINK THAT WE HELD A LOT OF POSITIONS OPEN. THIS WEEK WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT SWEEPING THOSE POSITIONS. JUST SAYING, WE ARE NOT -- WE ARE GOING TO SWEEP THEM AND NOT FILL THEM. AND WHAT DOES THAT DO IN TERMS OF THE DELTA, THE DEFICIT THAT WE ARE PROJECTING FOR FISCAL YEAR '03. THIS IS VERY EARLY FOR US TO BE DOING THAT. SOME ANALYSIS IS BEING DONE ABOUT THAT. SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS OBVIOUSLY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET RELEASED BECAUSE THEY ARE CRITICAL LIKE YOU MENTIONED. I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE AN E.M.S. WORKER WHO MAY BE VACANT AND SAY WE WILL HOLD IT OPEN FOREVER, OBVIOUSLY I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I THINK THAT ANALYSIS IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DONE, YOU HAVE SOME CONTRACTUALS THAT I THINK IN THE -- AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN YOU ARE PUTTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS TOGETHER FOR THE '03 BUDGET, THAT I THINK THAT -- THAT I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND DOING THOSE AND IF THAT DOESN'T CLOSE YOUR GAP, THEN YOU DEAL WITH THE ISSUES OF EMPLOYEES. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF HOW YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THIS.

WYNN: THE ANSWER JUST NOW WAS THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TODAY TO AVOID LAYING OFF EMPLOYEES IF WE HAVE TO DO THIS WITHOUT A TAX INCREASE. AND I JUST FOUND ONE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

NO, COUNCILMEMBER, THAT'S NOT -- WHAT I PHRASED THAT, IN THE CONTEXT THAT I PHRASED THAT IN WAS IF WE TRIED TO SAVE AN ADDITIONAL $8 MILLION, ABOVE AND BEYOND THE 13.5 MILLION. THE OTHER OPTION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL WAS TO TAKE THE ENTIRE 8 MILLION OUT OF ALL OF THE SAVINGS THAT WE WERE PROJECTING FOR THE END OF THE YEAR, AND ESSENTIALLY, AS I BELIEVE I DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION, THAT'S -- THAT'S DEFERRAL MECHANISM RATHER THAN A FINANCING MECHANISM. SIMPLY MEANS THAT THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE TO CUT OR THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET GROWS BY THAT MUCH.

WYNN: OKAY. THOSE ARE -- GENERIC QUESTIONS. ON THE SPECIFIC AMENDMENT, I -- I CERTAINLY RESPECT AND APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ GIVING THE PRESENTATION FOR US YESTERDAY IN THE WORK SESSION. IT STRIKES ME THAT -- THAT THE DAY AFTER WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, WE ARE MAKING A -- A SIGNIFICANT SORT OF POLICY DECISION. ONE QUESTION IS THE 600,000 DOLLARS PROPOSED FOR THE C.A.N. BASIC NEEDS PROGRAM, WHO TECHNICALLY IS -- IS THERE A CHECK WRITTEN TO SOMEBODY? WHAT'S THE -- WHO ACTUALLY GETS THAT $600,000?

DAVID LOWRY IS GOING TO TRY TO RESPOND TO THAT.

GARZA: COUNCILMEMBER, I THINK WHAT WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN, IT WILL GO BACK TO C.A.N., THEY WILL DO REVIEWS, SOCIAL SERVICE PROVIDER ARE RECOMMENDED AS PART OF AUGMENTING THOSE CONTRACTS, THEN WE WOULD COME BACK AND GET THOSE APPROVED. BUT DAVID --

THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS WHO WE WORK WITH THROUGH THE SOCIAL SERVICES CONTRACTING MECHANISM WHICH IS TIED IN TO THE C.A.N. PROCESS. WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IF THAT FUNDING IS APPROVED IS WE WOULD GO BACK, HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY ACCESS NETWORK, TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE CONTRACTS WE CURRENTLY HAVE WITH AGENCIES THAT ARE PROVIDING FOR THOSE BASIC NEEDS AND BY THE WAY, THOSE ARE THE SAME AGENCIES IN TERMS OF THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU HEARD WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, WERE SURVEYING THE DEMAND FOR SERVICES AND LOOKING AT THE INCREASE FOR DEMAND. THOSE ARE SERVICES BEING REQUESTED OF THOSE AGENCIES THAT WE CURRENTLY FUND. SO ULTIMATELY WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IS AN AMENDMENT TO EXISTING CONTRACT TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THEIR CAPACITY TO MEET THAT DEMAND.

WYNN: TECHNICALLY, THERE WOULD BE A FEW DOZEN CHECKS WRITTEN?

IT PROBABLY WOULD BE -- I WOULD GUESS WE ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT MAYBE HALF A DOZEN AGENCIES THAT WE CONTRACT WITH. AND WHAT WE DO, COUNCILMEMBER, IS, YOU KNOW, THEY INVOICE US ON A REGULAR BASIS, RELATED TO THE AMOUNT OF SERVICE THEY PROVIDE AND THEN THROUGH THE CONTRACT WE -- WE REIMBURSE THEM FOR THOSE SERVICES.

WYNN: OKAY. THANK YOU.

GARZA: COUNCILMEMBER, ALSO I THINK THAT MR. LURERY, WE HAVE ALREADY MADE CONTACT WITH THE COUNTY TO SEE IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MATCH THOSE TO THE 600,000, THE 1.2 MILLION DOLLAR FUNDING.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT A PRESENTATION SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HEARD AT THE WORK SESSION WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WITH THE -- CERTAINLY WITH THE HOPE AND EXPECTATION THAT THEY CAN MATCH WHAT THE CITY CONTRIBUTES TO THIS.

WYNN: MY CONCERN WITH THAT MIGHT BE SO THE COUNTY RAISES THEIR TAX RATE, THE CITY RAISES THEIR TAX RATE, AISD RAISES THEIR TAX RATE ALL AT A TIME WHEN -- YOU KNOW, FOLKS ARE --

AND -- AGAIN, COUNCILMEMBER, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD FINANCE IT, WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE IN TERMS OF RESERVES OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER RESOURCES OR, YOU KNOW, THE TAX RATE. BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO -- TO DETERMINE.

WYNN: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ALVAREZ: MAYOR?

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ?

ALVAREZ: I THINK IT'S LAUDABLE SITTING HERE SAYING WE ARE NOT GOING TO RAISE TAXES. A POINT A FINGER TO THE 600,000 FOR SOCIAL SERVICES THAT HAVE ARISEN AS A RESULT OF SEPTEMBER 11TH, YOU KNOW, BUT WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO THE 19.5 MILLION THAT WE ARE SPENDING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S A VERY STARK CONTRAST THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IN TERMS OF THE CUTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INCORPORATE INTO THIS ACTION, THE 1.2 MILLION, WE HAVE ALREADY ASKED STAFF TO FIND MORE SO SOME OF THAT CAN GET APPROPRIATED. THIS DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIND THIS ADDITIONAL 1.2 MILLION AS WELL. I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO REMEMBER WITH ALL OF THIS, BECAUSE -- YOU KNOW, IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY DID YOU HAVE CAREER NEXT YEAR. -- A VERY TOUGH YEAR NEXT YEAR. A LOT OF INCREASED UNEXPECTED UNFORESEEN EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE HAD TO INCUR IN THE AREA OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND IN THE AREA OF SOCIAL SERVICES WE HAVE DISCUSSED RECENTLY. THAT'S AN EXTRA $20 MILLION, AN EXTRA $20 MILLION THIS FISCAL YEAR FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE -- AGAIN, WE ALWAYS -- ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A SAFE COMMUNITY, ALL OF US HERE ON THE COUNCIL DO AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE DETERMINED IS NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, A SAFE COMMUNITY AND -- AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT -- THAT I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE -- THAT WE AUGMENT WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF POLICE AND FIRE AND E.M.S. AND ALSO IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN. BUT I LIKE ALL MY CLIEGS HERE DON'T -- COLLEAGUES HERE DON'T WANT TO PLACE ALL OF THE BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYERS. THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY LET'S DO A TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE FOR THE FULL AMOUNT THAT WOULD THEN HAVE TO BE PAID BACK NEXT FISCAL YEAR. BUT LET'S LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS OF PAYING FOR THESE INCREASED AND UNEXPECTED NEEDS AND SO -- SO I THINK IT'S A VERY BALANCED WAY OF DOING IT. YOU KNOW, WE STILL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME INCOME, SOME -- SOME SAVINGS THIS YEAR AND WE STILL, YOU KNOW, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME VERY DIFFICULT ISSUES NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. BUT THIS WAY, AGAIN, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE NOT LAYING ANYBODY OFF. WE HEARD THAT DALLAS ALREADY LAID 200 PEOPLE OFF. YOU KNOW, AND -- AND IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO TALK ABOUT MORE CUTS, IT'S HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, IT'S LIBRARIES, PARKS AND RECREATION AND I'M NOT SURE, I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER WYNN MENTIONED HE DIDN'T WANT TO CUT FROM THOSE DEPARTMENTS. IF WE CUT ANY MORE, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME FROM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE GENERAL FUND SUPPORTS. THOSE ARE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE PRIMARILY SUPPORTED BY THE GENERAL FUND. AND SO -- SO AGAIN WE ARE NOT LAYING ANYBODY OFF. WE ARE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THE SEVENS WE COMMITTED TO -- THE SERVICES WE COMMITTED TO PROVIDE IN THE COMMUNITY. IF WE DON'T TAKE THIS APPROACH, THEN AGAIN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START SCALING BACK THE SERVICES, START SCALING BACK OUR WORKFORCE AND I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THIS IS A REASONABLE WAY TO APPROACH THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE AND THEN WE WILL WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS AND WHO KNOWS? MAYBE THINGS WILL TURN AROUND AND WE WILL HAVE MORE REVENUE THAN EXPECTED AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE ALL OF THESE SERVICES AND CONTINUE WITH THE -- WITH THE LEVEL AND SIZE OF WORKFORCE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. SO THAT'S REALLY I THINK WHAT'S AT ISSUE HERE. BECAUSE WE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SAVE A HECK OF A LOT OF MONEY NEXT YEAR AND -- AND I THINK WE ARE TRYING TO APPROACH IT, YOU KNOW, IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO BE FAIR TO -- AND ADDRESS ALL OF THE NEEDS THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS. SO THAT'S MY OWN PERSONAL SENTIMENT. BUT -- BUT I DO AGAIN WANT TO -- I GUESS I JUST WANT TO -- I GUESS HEAR WHAT OTHER FOLKS HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR -- FOR A LONG TIME.

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH?

GRIFFITH: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO OFFER SOMETHING THAT -- THAT I THINK ENHANCES WHAT COUNCILMEMBER WYNN WAS SAYING. I WAS READING THE ECONOMIST LAST NIGHT, WHICH IS PROBABLY MY NUMBER ONE FAVORITE BUSINESS MAGAZINE. AND CAME ACROSS THEIR CONSUMER PRICE FORECAST. THEY SAY THAT IN 2001, THE COST OF LIVING WENT UP 2.9%. AND IT IS EXPECTED TO ONLY GO UP 1.4% THIS YEAR. SO AS WE ARE POINTING TOWARDS NEXT YEAR, THE -- AS THE MANAGER SUGGESTED, IT COULD BE REASONABLE TO -- TO HAVE NO -- HOPEFULLY NO LAYOFFS, BUT CERTAINLY SALARY ADJUSTMENT MIGHT NOT BE WHAT IT'S BEEN BECAUSE COST OF LIVING, ACCORDING TO -- ACCORDING TO FORECASTS IS NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT HAS BEEN.

MAYOR GARCIA: THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM NO. 20 -- LET ME GET MY AGENDA ITEM. 26. FURTHER DISCUSSION?

SLUSHER: MAYOR, I WANTED TO EXPLAIN HOW I'M GOING TO VOTE.

MAYOR GARCIA: GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY. COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER.

SLUSHER: I WILL TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT. I KNOW WE WANT TO GO HOME. BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT I THINK AS YOU KNOW FROM THE U.S. CONFERENCE OF.

MAYOR GARCIA:, THAT REALLY EVERY CITY IN THIS NATION IS FACING SIMILAR SITUATION, WE HAVE ALREADY HEARD DALLAS MENTIONED TONIGHT HAD SOME LAYOFFS, HOUSTON HAS HAD SOME DRAMATIC FINANCIAL PROBLEMS. WE CAN'T -- IT NOT ALL CONTRIBUTABLE TO SEPTEMBER 11TH. I WOULDN'T WANT TO FALL INTO THAT. WE ALL KNOW THE ECONOMY WAS SLOWING BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11TH. OF COURSE THAT'S HAD A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON LIFE IN THIS COUNTRY AND ON -- ON OUR ECONOMY IN PARTICULAR. AND THE -- WE HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE OUR EXPENSES ARE GOING UP, EXCUSE ME, THE -- THE PUBLIC SAFETY EXPENSES ARE GOING UP, OUR SOCIAL NEEDS ARE GOING UP, AS WE SAW IN THE BRIEFING YESTERDAY, YET OUR REVENUES, THE REVENUES ARE GOING DOWN. AND SO WE HAVE GOT TO FIND SOMETHING, WE HAVE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO DEAL WITH THAT. I THINK THIS IS A PRUDENT COURSE. IT'S NOT A HUGE INCREASE, IT'S NOT A HUGE TAX INCREASE. IT'S ABOUT A DOLLAR A MONTH, WITH -- IF IT'S -- IT WAS MORE WHEN IT WAS PROPOSED AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ IS RIGHT. HE'S PUTTING 33 CENTS IN, 34 CENTS IN ABOVE WHAT IT WAS MONDAY. BUT THAT WAS AFTER -- IT WAS ALREADY CUT DOWN FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. AND I CONGRATULATE HIM ON DOING THAT BECAUSE THAT HEARING YESTERDAY REALLY BROUGHT OR THE BRIEFING YESTERDAY REALLY BROUGHT HOME THE HUMAN IMPACT THIS IS HAVING ON SO MANY PEOPLE. AND THAT'S REALLY A SMALL PRICE TO PAY TO MEET THOSE NEEDS. I THINK IT'S TO AT LEAST BEGIN TO MEET THEM. I THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO THE WAY HE'S DOING IT TO HAVE THAT MONEY IN THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE AND THEN WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WE SEEK THE COUNTY MATCH THE CITY'S FUNDING, SO WE CAN DOUBLE WHAT'S GOING TO THAT. AND HELP MORE FOLKS. AND -- IN THAT WAY. SO I THINK THIS IS A PRUDENT THING TO DO. WE ARE IN A WAR-TIME REALLY, IT'S NOT A CONVENTIONAL -- IT'S NOT A CONVENTIONAL WAR, IT'S NOT BEING FOUGHT IN A CONVENTIONAL WAY. AND WE'VE HAD, AS WE KNOW, PEOPLE ON THE HOMEFRONT HAVE PAID REAL SERIOUS SACRIFICES AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE KILLED IN THE SEPTEMBER 11TH ATTACKS AND THE IMPACT THAT HAD ON FAMILY AND FRIENDS. BUT REALLY IN THE -- IN THE DAILY LIVES THAT WE ARE LEADING, THERE IS NOT REALLY THE KIND OF SACRIFICE THAT THERE'S HAD TO BE IN OTHER WARS LIKE -- LIKE GAS RATIONING AND THAT'S SORT -- THAT SORT OF THING THAT WENT THROUGH IN WORLD WAR II. SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY A PRETTY SMALL PRICE TO PAY TO MEET SOME OF THE HUMAN NEEDS AND TO PROVIDE FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS OF OUR CITY.

MAYOR GARCIA: FURTHER COMMENTS? LET ME JUST MENTION THAT BREAK UP OF THE AMOUNT OF THAT NEEDED CAME AS A RESULT OF MY REQUEST THAT WE SPREAD THE BURDEN INTO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, INCLUDING SOME EXPENSE REDUCTIONS. AND I THINK THAT THIS ONE FOR THE 8 MILLION, 3.5 WILL COME FROM TAX ANTICIPATION NOTE, 800 FROM -- FROM CAP -- I MEAN --

CONTRACTUAL --

FROM CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.

MAYOR GARCIA: CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AND THEN SOME -- SOME FROM CONTINGENCY RESERVE. I THINK SOME FROM SOME REDUCTIONS IN EXPENDTURES, THAT'S WHAT WE TRIED TO DO. THEN OF COURSE THE ISSUE CAME UP ABOUT THE NEEDS, YOU KNOW, THAT WERE BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL AT THE LAST WORK SESSION FROM THE PEOPLE AT THE COMMUNITY ACTION NETWORK. I THINK IT'S A BALANCED APPROACH. I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE LAYOFFS IN THIS CITY. THERE BEEN TOO MANY OF THOSE, IT HAS DAMAGED OUR ECONOMY SIGNIFICANTLY. I THINK THAT THE POSTER TEE MEASURES -- POSTERITY MEASURES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE BY THE CITY MANAGER HAVE WORKED AND I THINK WE CAN WEATHER THIS STORM TO SEE WHEN WE ARE GOING TO BE ACCIDENT TURN AROUND THE SITUATION. SO I -- I THINK IT'S A RESPONSIBLE WAY FOR US TO ADDRESS WHAT IS A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION. NOBODY LIKES TO BE IN THIS SITUATION. AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, THAT COME THIS SUMMER AND THIS FALL WHEN WE APPROVE THE BUDGET, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE ON THE TABLE. ALL KIND OF THINGS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE TABLE. BUT YOU ALL APPROVED A BUDGET FOR THIS PAST YEAR, YOU APPROVED THAT THING ONE DAY BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11TH. WITH A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE MADE WITH REGARD TO MANY THINGS. THIS NEXT BUDGET IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE IS TRYING TO ADDRESS WHAT IS BASICALLY A -- A DIFFERENT ECONOMIC SITUATION, SO I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO ADDRESS IT. IT'S PROBABLY SOME FOLKS OUT THERE THAT THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO -- WE ATE TO LAY OFF SOME PEOPLE LIKE DALLAS HAS, LIKE SOME OTHER PEOPLE, SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT APPROACH. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HANG TOGETHER ON THIS ONE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO -- TO BRING ABOUT RESOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE. I COMMEND COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ FOR LOOKING AT THE ISSUE THAT CAME ON IT OF THE -- CAME OUT OF THE COMMUNITY ACTION NETWORK. THAT SAID I WILL RECOGNIZE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO COMMENT ON THE ITEM 22 MOTION. AND ITS AMENDMENT. ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE? OKAY. IF NOT, ALL NOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

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OPPOSED NO?

MAYOR GARCIA: I DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW HOW TO -- CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE?

MAYOR GARCIA?

MAYOR GARCIA: YES.

MAYOR PRO TEM GOODMAN?

GOODMAN: YES.

COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ?

ALVAREZ: YES.

COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH.

GRIFFITH: YES.

COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER?

SLUSHER: YES.

COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

WYNN: YES.

MAYOR GARCIA: THAT PASSES ON A VOTE OF 6 TO 0 TO 1 ABSENCE AND THAT'S COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS THAT -- THAT HAD TO LEAVE TO ATTEND TO A PRIOR COMMITMENT. ITEM NO. 2, 23, I'M SORRY, --

GARZA: 24 CAN BE TAKEN TOGETHER.

MAYOR GARCIA: 23 AND 24 CAN BE TAKEN TOGETHER, EXCEPT THAT THE AMOUNT INSTEAD OF BEING 3.57 IS GOING TO BE 4. 8. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THAT ITEM. COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ?

ALVAREZ: THESE --

GARZA: THESE ARE JUST SIMPLY REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION.

ALVAREZ: I MOVE APPROVAL.

MAYOR GARCIA: MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ TO APPROVE ITEMS 23 AND 24. THOSE TWO ARE RESOLUTION, IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER. DISCUSSION? AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST RESOLUTIONS TO -- TO REIMBURSE THE CITY FOR THE AMOUNTS THAT WE ARE -- WE TALKED ABOUT IN ITEM NO. 22. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED, NO. MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF 6 TO 0 TO 1. ITEM NO. 25, MR. CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS LENGTHY ORDINANCE.

GARZA: ALL RIGHT. LET ME ASK JOHN TO DO IT. THERE'S ONLY ONE AMENDMENT I THINK THAT'S NEEDED HERE. THAT'S THE AMENDMENT THAT OF OFFERED BY -- BY COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ --

RIGHT. AT THIS POINT -- WE NEED TO ADD TO THE THIRD AMENDMENT THAT COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ --

MAYOR GARCIA: LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET A MOTION ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THEN WE WILL CONSIDER THE AMENDMENT.

GOODMAN: MOVE APPROVAL, MAYOR.

MAYOR GARCIA: MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

ALVAREZ: SECOND.

MAYOR GARCIA: SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ. LET ME SEE IF I DID THIS RIGHT. WE DID THE INCREASE FROM 3.7 TO 4.8 IN NUMBER 22. WHERE DO WE DO THE DECREASE IN THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE FROM 2.4 TO 1.2, DO WE DO IT HERE?

YES, SIR.

ALVAREZ: NO, WE DID --

MAYOR GARCIA: OKAY. THE 2.4 ON LINE -- THE FIFTH, SIXTH LINE FROM THE BOTTOM, THAT'S GOING TO BE 1.2 MILLION INSTEAD OF 2.4. AND WHEREVER YOU SEE A 3.57, THAT'S GOING TO BE 3 -- GOING TO BE 4.8.

FURTHERMORE, WE WOULD ADD A LINE WHERE WE WOULD TAKE 600,000 FROM CONTINGENCY RESERVE TO COMMUNITY ACTION NETWORK.

ALVAREZ: THAT WOULD BE MY ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT.

MAYOR GARCIA: THE TWO AMENDMENTS, COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ, THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO INTRODUCE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU HAVE LISTED ON THIS SHEET. DEALING WITH THE DECREASE OF THE AMOUNT OF CONTINGENCY RESERVE UTILIZED FOR HOMELAND SECURITY FROM 2.4 TO 1.2. YOU CAN MAKE THAT AMENDMENT. AND THEN THE MAKER AND SECONDER WILL HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

ALVAREZ: I OFFER THAT AMENDMENT, MAYOR.

MAYOR GARCIA: OKAY.

GOODMAN: FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

MAYOR GARCIA: THAT'S AGREEABLE TO THE MAKER. THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS BY THE -- AMEND THE BUDGET BY UTE....UTILIZING THE 600 THOUGH FUND THE CITY'S MATCHING CONTRIBUTION FOR THE COMMUNITY ACTION NETWORK. THE QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT TODAY?

GARZA: YOU DON'T HAVE TO. YOU CAN COME BACK AFTER DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY AND/OR YOU COULD DO IT CONTINGENT UPON SOME AGREEMENT -- YOU COULD DO IT, SAY, WE ARE GOING TO HOLD OFF ON PROCEEDING WITH FUNDING UNTIL THOSE DECISIONS IN TERMS OF WHERE THE COUNTY IS. THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS TO DO IT.

MAYOR GARCIA: THE MONEY THERE IS IN THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE. MY PREFERENCE IS THAT WE DO IT AFTER...... WE HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS WITH -- AFTER WE HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ I WOULD RATHER DO IT THAT WAY.

ALVAREZ: I GUESS AS LONG AS THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING MORE OR LESS OF THE LEVEL, YOU KNOW, THAT --

MAYOR GARCIA: SINCE WE REDUCED THE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE TAKING FROM CONTINGENCY RESERVE FROM 2.4 TO 1.2, WE COULD -- ONCE AGAIN, GO BACK AND TAKE 600,000 FROM THAT RESERVE AFTER WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE COUNTY ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

GARZA: JUST SO COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ, WE WILL MOVE AS FAST AS WE CAN, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE AGENCIES ARE IN NEED. WE WILL VISIT WITH THE COUNTY QUICKLY AND HOPEFULLY HE CAN COME ALONG TO THE MEETING WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE AND GET THAT ESTABLISHED.

MAYOR GARCIA: 22 AND 23 GAVE YOU THAT FLEXIBILITY, MR. CITY MANAGER. WHO MADE THAT MOTION? OKAY.

CLERK BROWN: MAYOR PRO TEM GOODMAN.

MAYOR GARCIA: SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ. DISCUSSION ON ITEM NO. 25 NONRESPONSIVE IF NOT ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF 6 TO 0 TO 1 WITH COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS ABSENT. I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE STAFF AND MECHANICS OF THE COUNCIL FOR O -- MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR WHAT I THINK IS ONE OF THE BETTER WAYS OF ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE. ONLY TIME WILL TELL WHETHER WE DID THE RIGHT THING HERE, IF THE ECONOMY TURNS AROUND AND WE DO BETTER, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE OKAY. BUT -- I SUSPECT THAT COME SEPTEMBER AND ALL DURING THE TIME THAT WE WILL BE NEGOTIATING THE BUDGET, WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS TO MAKE. I HAVE TOLD THE COUNCILMEMBERS THAT FOR THIS BUDGET, MS. FUTRELL, EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE. AND IT WILL MEAN SOME SACRIFICES IN SOME AREAS THAT ARE CRITICAL AND OUR HOPE IS THAT THE -- THE SERVICES THAT -- THAT THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN HAVE COME TO EXPECT FROM THE CITY ARE NOT REDUCED TO A POINT WHERE WE WOULD BE DISAPPOINTING OUR CITIZENS. SO -- SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, EVERYBODY, FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

GARZA: MAYOR, THANKS, I KNOW THAT JOHN, RUDY, DENNIS, ALL OF THESE PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS WORKING WITH TOBY PUTTING TOGETHER THE TASK FORCE HAVE DONE JUST A GREAT JOB. WE ARE PLEASED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE.

MAYOR GARCIA: THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER. COUNCILMEMBERS, THAT'S ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE FOR ACTION. WE HAVE TWO -- TWO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS THAT WILL NOT REQUIRE ANY COUNCIL ACTION. WHEN WE COME BACK, BUT THEY ARE PRIVATE CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY ITEMS UNDER 559 .071, ONE TO DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES REALITIED TO THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS BY POLICE AND PERSONNEL RECORDS AND THE OTHER ONE IS TO DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO AUSTIN 360 ASSOCIATES LP VERSUS THE CITY OF AUSTIN CAUSE NUMBER GM00 -- GN-001372 IN THE 261ST JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT OF TRAVIS COUNTY. WE ARE RECESSED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WILL COME BACK ONLY TO -- TO -- TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING. SO -- SO WE WILL BE BACK WHENEVER WE GET THROUGH. PRAIRIE.......

MAYOR GARCIA: THERE'S A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH TO ADJOURN, SECONDED BY SLUSHER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AND LEAVING. WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.