Closed Caption Log, Council Meeting, 12/5/02

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Mayor Garcia: THERE BEING A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL IN THE CHAMBERS, I'M CALLING THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL FOR DECEMBER THE 5th, BACK TO ORDER. THE COUNCIL HAS CONCLUDED ITS EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NO DECISIONS WERE MADE. AND AT THIS TIME WE WILL GO TO THE TIME CERTAIN ITEM OF 1:30. FOR PURPOSES OF THE COUNCIL, THERE'S ONE CHANGE. ON ITEM NO. 10, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION GENERAL, IT'S LISTED AT DON RIVERA. AND IT SHOULD BE DORA RIVERA. FIRST SPEAKER ON CITIZENS COMMUNICATION GENERAL IS LATIFAH TAOMINA, THEN FOLLOWED BY MS. CAROL DALBY. IS MS. TAOMINA HERE? WELCOME.

HELLO, I'M LATIFH TAOMINA WITH AUSTIN CIRCLE OF THEATERS. I REALLY WANTED TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE COURAGE TO -- TO HIRE A CONSULTANT AND TO LOOK INTO DEVELOPING A BETTER WAY TO FUND OUR ARTS ORGANIZATIONS IN A VERY CRITICAL TIME AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT NOW IS THE SEASON OF GOOD CHEER AND GOOD WISHES. I THINK THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY HAD YOUR SHARE OF BAD ISSUE WISHES, I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU GOOD WISHES AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. I HAVE GIVEN YOU MATERIAL THAT I HAVE SENT ON SEPARATELY OF MODELS THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE USED THAT I HOPE THAT YOU WILL FIND HELPFUL. I'M HERE TO SAY THAT ALL OF US IN THE THEATER COMMUNITY ARE CERTAINLY WILLING TO SUPPORT YOU IN EVERY WAY. I ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE AT AUSTIN CIRCLE OF THEATERS ARE STARTING A LITTLE PROGRAM THAT I HOPE YOU WILL ALL AVAIL YOURSELVES OF. WE ARE HAVING SOMETHING CALLED PLAY MONEY. IT'S A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR $25. YOU PAY $25 FOR IT AND ONE DOLLAR EXTRA, WHICH IS OURS, BUT IT'S REDEEMED FOR THE FULL $25 AT A WHOLE LOT OF ARTS ORGANIZATIONS AND ALSO IF YOU WANT TO DO CLASSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE FUN. SO WE WANT YOU TO GO OUT AND PLAY. AND NOT STAY HERE BEHIND YOUR DESKS ALL THE TIME. I WANTED TO READ YOU SOMETHING THAT I CAME ACROSS THAT I FOUND VERY MOVING THAT I'M HOPING YOU ENCOURAGE YOU IN YOUR AD VENTURE AND YOUR PIONEERING WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING TO HELP KEEP AUSTIN CREATIVE AND VITAL. AND -- AND IT'S A QUOTE FROM A LADY IN ANOTHER ARTICLE. I WON'T CLAIM IT. BUT SHE SAID -- SHE WAS POINTING OUT THAT WILLIAM CARLOS WITH HIMALS SAID "IT'S HARD TO GET THE NEWS FROM POEMS, BUT MEN DIE MISERABLY EVERY DAY FOR LACK OF WHAT IS FOUND THERE. ARTS COUNTER CULTURE, HOWEVER DIVERSE, HOLDS IN PLAIN SIGHT WHAT THE MATERIAL WORLD DENIES, LOVE AND IMAGINATION. ART IS MADE OUT OF BOTH. A PASSIONATE, RECKLESS LOVE OF THE WORK IN ITS OWN RIGHT AS THOUGH NOTHING ELSE EXISTS AND IMAGINATIVE FORCE THAT CREATES SOMETHING NEW OUT OF DISPARIT MATERIAL. THANK YOU FOR WORKING TO PROTECT THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAROL DALBY, FOLLOWING CHER IS SHIRLEY MARTINEZ.

GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR, MAYOR PRO T AND COUNCILMEMBERS. I'M CAROL DARBY CO-CHAIR OF AUSTIN INTERFAITH, HERE TODAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND RECOGNIZE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ITS FORESIGHT AND CONTINUING TO INVEST IN THE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DURING THE RECENT ECONOMIC DOWNTURNS. WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR KEEPING ITS COMMITMENT TO FUND THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS SUPPORTED BY AUSTIN INTERFAITH. THESE PROGRAMS INCLUDE THE ESL PROGRAM WHICH SERVES OVER 1500 STUDENTS AT 9 DIFFERENT SCHOOLS LAST YEAR. SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM, WHICH TRAINED AND PLACED OVER 900 STUDENTS IN SUMMER JOBS. CAPITAL IDEA, THE JOB TRAINING PROGRAM WHICH CURRENTLY HAS OVER 426 ADULTS ENROLLED. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM, WHICH ENSURED OVER 7,000 STUDENTS ACCESS TO ENRICHMENT PROGRAMS AND SPARED THEM THE CHALLENGE OF BECOMING LATCH KEY KIDS. AS YOU KNOW, AUSTIN INTERFATE HAS NOT -- INTERFAITH IS NOT RECEIVED ANY MONEY FROM THE CITY, ALL FUNDING DIRECTLY TO THESE PROGRAMS. WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED INVESTMENTS IN THESE PROGRAMS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WE WILL CONTINUE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY ON THESE PROGRAMS TO ENSURE THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF AUSTIN. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. DARBY, MS. SHIRLEY MARTINEZ, FOLLOWING MS. MARTINEZ IS MS. REGINA ROGOFF.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS SHIRLEY MARTINEZ, I'M A PARTICIPANTS OF CAPITAL IDEA AND A LEADER WITH AUSTIN INTERFAITH. PRIOR TO BECOMING A PARTICIPANT I HAD ALWAYS WANTED TO ATTEND COLLEGE BUT I HAD NO RESOURCES. I ALWAYS KNEW THAT I HAD THE POTENTIAL, THOUGH. I DID NOT KNOW HOW I COULD PAY FOR CLASSES WORKING AT LOW PAYING JOBS, NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT I AM MARRIED AND I HAVE TWO CHILDREN WHO TAKE A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME TO SUPPORT. I FELT THAT THERE WAS NO WAY THAT I WOULD EVER BE ABLE TO ATTEND COLLEGE, BUT THEN ONE DAY I WAS WORKING AT A CAV FEAR I CAN'T, I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO MEET A CUSTOMER AND SHE TOLD ME ABOUT CAPITAL IDEA. AT FIRST THE PROGRAM SOUNDED TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. BUT I WENT TO AN ORIENTATION, I TOOK A CHANCE AND THREE MONTHS AFTER I WENT TO THE ORIENTATION, I WAS ENROLLED AT AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE. NEXT SPRING, I WILL BE COMPLETING MY DEGREE, AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE IN ELECTRONICS WHERE I PLAN TO GO TO WORK FOR ONE OF THE LOCAL SEMICONDUCTOR INDUSTRIES. RIGHT NOW AS -- AS CAROL WAS SAYING, WE HAVE 158 PARTICIPANTS WHO HAVE COMPLETED TRAINING AND WHO HAVE ENTERED EMPLOYMENT THROUGH CAPITAL IDEA. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 426 PARTICIPANTS STUDYING TO IMPROVE THEIR LIFE THROUGH CAPITAL IDEAS' EFFORTS. WHEN OUR PARTICIPANTS ENTER THE JOB FORCE, THE AVERAGE STARTING PAY IS $12.64 AN HOUR. 85% OF OUR PARTICIPANTS WHO HAVE COMPLETED TRAINING HAVE CORNER WAGES AT MORE THAN -- CURRENT WAGES AT MORE THAN $10 AN HOUR. BUT NOT ONLY GETTING BETTER PAYING JOBS AND NOT ONLY GOING TO SCHOOL AND BETTERING THEIR EDUCATION, CAPITAL IDEA THROUGH AUSTIN INTERFAITH IS BUILDING LEADERS FOR THE FUTURE. WE HAVE THE VOTE TO GET OUT THE CAMPAIGN FOR AUSTIN INTERFAITH WHERE 50% OF OUR PARTICIPANTS VOTED EARLY. WE HAD A 50% VOTER TURNOUT. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE FINAL NUMBERS WHICH PROMISED TO BE BETTER THAN 50%, BUT THAT WAS A 27% INCREASE OVER OUR LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION NUMBERS, WHICH WE ARE VERY, VERY PROUD OF. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE CONTINUED FUNDING, EVEN THOUGH THE BUDGET IS TIGHT. AND I WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT YOU HAVE AND ARE CONTINUING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN A LOT OF LIVES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO MINE. WE ARE MAKING SOMETHING BETTER OF OUR LIVES, THANKS TO CITY COUNCIL'S INVESTMENT IN CAPITAL IDEA. THANK YOU. HOWEVER, MY NAME IS REGINA ROGOFF, I WOULD LIKE TO WISH YOU A HAPPY CHANUKKAH. AS YOU KNOW GETTING OUT THE VOTE IS HARD WORK. AUSTIN INTERFAITH WORK LEADER ARE HIGH WORKER. ON AVERAGE WE HAD A 17% INCREASE IN TURNOUT OVER THE 19978 GUBERNATORIAL ELECTION. AN INCREASE HIGHER THAN THE STATE'S OVERALL AVERAGE. IN PRECINCT 129, WHICH IS LOCATED BETWEEN MLK AND 183, IT WAS A 19% INCREASE. IN PRECINCT 124, THE KEALING AREA, IT WAS A 30% INCREASE AND IN PRECINCT 439, THE ZAVALA AREA THE VOTER TURNOUT WAS UP A WHOPPING 45%. WE PLAN TO CONTINUE REGISTERING VOTERS, EDUCATING LEADERS, WORKING WITH YOU THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND HAVING A STRONG PRESENCE IN THE MAY 2003 ELECTION. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR THE CITY.

Mayor Garcia: 2003, RIGHT? DID I SAY TWO, YES, THREE, OF COURSE, I'M SORRY.

Mayor Garcia: NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU, MS. ROGOFF.

AND BEYOND.

Mayor Garcia: AND BEYOND. CLAYTON, MR. CLAYTON T.LEVERETT FOLLOWED BY GENEVA SUPPOSE ALIVA. MR. CLAYTON T. LEVERETTE, IS HE HERE? GENEVA OLIVA. WELCOME.

THANK YOU. MAYOR GARCIA, COUNCILMEMBERS. I'M HERE THIS -- THIS AFTERNOON TO -- TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT LIQUOR -- NO LIQUOR SALES NEAR OUR SCHOOL, SAFETY APPEARED CONCERN FOR OUR CHILDREN. OUR COMMUNITY, WE HAVE BEEN REALLY TALKING, DISCUSSING, I GUESS [INAUDIBLE] SO MANY MEETINGS, TALKING ABOUT LIQUOR. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE GOODS AND ALL OF THE BADS, SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE JUST MORE BAD THAN GOOD WHEN THERE'S LIQUOR, ESPECIALLY CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL. ESPECIALLY, JUST I BROUGHT A LITTLE THING HERE THAT'S IT'S BEEN A LITTLE HARD TO TRY TO EXPLAIN TO OUR CHILDREN'S, YOU KNOW, THIS -- WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO THIS YOUNG LADY, ALL BECAUSE OF LIQUOR BECAUSE OF A DRUNK DRIVER. YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S SAD THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAS TO HAPPEN. IT'S HARD TO TRY TO EXPLAIN TO OUR KIDS AT OUR SCHOOL THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THIS HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, LIFE WILL GO ON. BUT -- HOW CAN YOU REPLACE A LIFE? WHEN THEY WILL NOT HAVE A CHANCE? THIS YOUNG LADY HAD A CHANCE TO LIVE AND TO TELL HER STORY. BUT OUR KIDS AT OUR SCHOOL ARE YOUNGER THAN THESE -- THAN THIS YOUNG LADY. AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT BRINGING LIQUOR INTO OUR COMMUNITY. SO PLEASE GIVE THEM AND GIVE US A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR LIFE AND TO BETTER OURSELVES. THANK YOU.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU. THERESA SCHREIBER. IS SHE NOT HERE? DORA RIVERA. MS. RIVERA, WELCOME.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR GARCIA AND COUNCILMEMBERS. I'M JUST HERE TO SEE -- FOR THE STUDENTS AT ALLEN ELEMENTARY, WE ARE STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIQUOR AND ALCOHOL SOLD SO CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL. OUR CONCERN IS BECAUSE THE KIDS USED THE PLAYGROUND IN THE EVENINGS TO COME PLAY AND WHO IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A DRUNK DRIVING DRIVING BY THERE OR GETTING INTO THE YARD WHILE THEY WERE PLAYING THERE. I HOPE YOU ALL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND LET US KNOW THAT IT IS DANGEROUS FOR THEM TO BE OUT THERE WHEN THEY ARE DRINKING LIQUOR IN THE SCHOOL GROUNDS. SO -- SO THANK YOU FOR -- FOR TAKING THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU, MS. RIVERA. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AGREEMENTS AND ALSO WE ARE ALSO RE-- SOME COUNCILMEMBERS ARE RECONSIDERING THE C.S. 1 TO MAYBE GOING TO CS-CO THAT IS IN THE PROCESS. DR. HERRERA, SYLVIA HERRERA, WELCOME, DR. HERRERA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ADOPTING THE PODER RECOMMENDATION TO LOOK AT HISTORIC ZONING AND GENTRIFICATION AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THIS ISSUE MOVING FORWARD AND HAVING TO -- TO -- FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT. I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY MENTION SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF -- OF SOME THE RESEARCH THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN REGARD TO L.I. ZONING AND C.S. 1 ZONING AND YOU HAVE GOTTEN -- PRESENTATION THAT I DID TO AISD LAST WEEK REGARDING THIS. WE HAVE BEEN PART OF THE GOVALLE JOHNSON TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA, THERE'S FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND IN THE 78702, THERE'S ACTUALLY FOUR MORE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND THEN THE ONE HIGH SCHOOL IS JOHNSTON. WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES. ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE COMMISSION, THERE'S OVER 140 PERMITS IN THE 78702 AREA. WHAT'S MORE ELEMENTARYING, THOUGH, ARE THE -- WHAT'S MORE ALARMING, THOUGH, ARE THE FACT THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN ARE DRINKING, THAT'S A REAL BIG CONCERN STATE-WIDE, LOOKING AT THE SCHOOL SURVEY OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE AMONG STUDENTS, GRADES 4 4 TO 6 IN 2002, IT WAS REPORTED THAT 14% OF ELEMENTARY STUDENTS -- ELEMENT STEER STUDENTS HAD DRUNK TWO OR MORE WINE COOLERS IN A ROW AT LEAST DURING THE 2000 YEAR SCHOOL YEAR. THIS IS CONSIDERED HEAVY DRINKING FOR CHILDREN 12 AND YOUNGYOUNGER. SO WE NEED TO SET EXAMPLES OF NOT FINDING AN EXCUSE FOR PLACES THAT WERE IN -- FOR SOCIAL DRINKING, BUT RATHER HAVE A -- PLACES THAT WE CAN HAVE AN EXCUSE FOR NOT DRINKING. AS ALSO INDICATED IN THE AISD PLANNING POLICY FOR SITE REQUIREMENTS, SCHOOLS SHOULD NOT BE LOCATED FOR INDUSTRIAL OR BUSINESS USES THAT WOULD PROVIDE NOISY AND/OR HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS AND/OR TRANSPORTATION PROBLEMS. IT HAS BEEN THE PRACTICE OF THE DISTRICT TO OPPOSE ZONING OF MORE THAN L.R. ADJACENT TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS OR MORE THAN G.R. TO SECONDARY SCHOOL. IT FURTHER STATES LIKEWISE LOCATIONS WHICH ARE ADJACENT TO FORMER [INAUDIBLE] SITES, HIGH VOLTAGE POWER LINES, HIGH PRESSURE GAS LINES OR OTHER POTENTIALLY TOXIC SUBSTANCES ARE TO BE AVOIDED. I HAVE ALSO INCLUDED A LIST OF DIFFERENT PROPERTIES AROUND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE JOHNSTON-GOVALLE AREA THAT NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND WE HAVE REVIEWED THEM WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PROCESS. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BRING THEM TO YOUR ATTENTION AT THIS POINT. THERE IS A CORRECTION -- [BUZZER SOUNDING] ON THAT LIST. IT SHOULD BE 407 AND UP TO 411 TILLERY AND NOT 105 TILLERY. THANK YOU.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, DR. HERRERA. MR. GUS PENA. MR. PENA, WELCOME, SIR.

MAYOR, COUNCILS -- COUNCILMEMBERS, GUS PENA, PRESIDENT OF EAST AUSTIN CONCERNED HISPANICS. I WANT TO READ OFF A LIST OF NAMES, THEN I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHY. MR. AND MRS. KERRI AND BECKER OF BALCONES RECYCLING, ATTORNEY AT LAW MR. JERRY MORRIS, ATTORNEY JERRY HARRIS, ATTORNEY JEFF RUSK, PAUL LINEHAN, MICHAEL RIVERA ENGINEER, MR. HARVEY DAVIS, LULU FLORES, DAVID ESCOMEAL, DAVID WEEKS, BARBER, DAVE EVANS, AUSTIN TRAVIS COUNTY MHMR, ALL HELPED TO PROVIDE 120 DINNERS FOR 120 FAMILIES OF THE MOST NEEDIEST FAMILIES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. I DON'T COME HERE TO -- TO GET ACCLAIM FOR ME, BUT I GET -- I COME HERE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR SUPPORT BECAUSE OTHERWISE IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR THEM, 120 FAMILIES WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RECEIVE CHRISTMAS EARLY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TURKEYS AND HAM. WE APPRECIATE THEM VERY MUCH. WE HAVE -- WE ARE GOING TO SEND LETTERS OF APPRECIATION OUT THIS WEEK. COUNCILMEMBERS THIS IS ANOTHER REASON THAT WE VOLUNTEER OUR TIME AND EFFORT AND OUR FUNDING FOR -- WHAT LITTLE WE HAVE TO HELP THE LESS FORTUNATE. THEN I WILL EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE, ALSO. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS, HOSPITAL DISTRICT, WE ARE IN SUPPORT, WE NEED IT, BUT WE ARE STILL NOT CLEAR ABOUT THE TAXING FORMULA. I WISH BEFORE IT WAS PUT TO VOTER REFERENDUM, GUS, THAT YOU ALL WOULD EXPLAIN THE TAXING FORMULA OR WHATEVER TAXING METHOD IT'S GOING TO USE IN THIS HOSPITAL DISTRICT BEFORE IT PUT TO THE VOTERS. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO EDUCATE THE VOTERS. WE CAN'T JUST VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE NEED THE FULL SPECIFICS ON THAT. AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU ALL WILL BE INCLUSIVE ON WHOEVER IS ON WHATEVER COMMITTEE, WHATEVER BOARD IS GOING TO BE DEALING WITH THIS HOSPITAL DISTRICT. ANOTHER THING THAT YOU ALL HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT IS ABOUT THE SHORTAGE OF NURSES, WHEN I WAS AT SETON, WHEN I HAD A HEART PROBLEM, HEART CONDITION, STILL HAVE IT. I WAS MOVED FROM THE FOURTH FLOOR TO THE FIFTH FLOOR BECAUSE THERE WAS A SHORTAGE OF NURSES. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT. THEY THINK ABOUT TEACHER SHORTAGES, ET CETERA, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE HEALTH CARE FIELD AND NURSING SHORTAGE HERE. SETON IS PROPOSING TO BUILD A NEW HOSPITAL. I'M HOPING IT DOESN'T DAMAGE WHATEVER SERVICE IT'S SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE TO THE NEEDY AND CHILDREN OF AUSTIN TRAVIS COUNTY. I'M HOPING THEY DON'T. WITH THE NEW DISTRICT, THERE'S ANOTHER HOSPITAL BEING PROPOSED TO BE BUILT. WHERE ARE THE NURSES GOING TO COME FROM. THERE'S ALREADY A BIG SHORTAGE OF THEM. TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND THE OTHER COMMITTEES, ALSO. ANOTHER THING IS THE LAST THING THAT I HAVE TO SAY IS KEEP DOWNTOWN STREETS AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST TO CHANGE IT TO TWO-WAY STREETS, GUS AND COUNCILMEMBERS. BUT YOU HAVE THAT MONEY TO SPOAPT THAT ISSUE, USE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE MORE WISE AND PRUDENT, ON THE POOR, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN THAN THAT BOONDOGGLE. A LOT OF CLOSED DOOR MEETINGS WITH CAPITAL METRO, REGARDING THIS RFQ BY CAPITAL METRO, LET ME WRAP UP BECAUSE I VICE-PRESIDENT BEEN HERE IN A LONG TIME, I'M A LITTLE BIT ANGRY ABOUT THIS. YOU SEE A LOT OF PERSONS THAT HAVE BEEN AN MINUTES FORKED THE SO-CALLED SPOKESPERSON FOR THE EAST AUSTIN COMMUNITY. WE ARE NOT TERRITORIAL, I GREW UP ON EAST FIFTH STREET, WE HAD TO PUT UP WITH THE TANK ARM BEFORE THE ONE ON SPRINGDALE, WE HAD THE SLAUGHTER HOUSE. I'M HOPING THAT WHOMEVER HAS THE POWER TO MAKE THE DECISIONS, MAKES THE APPROPRIATE DECISION THAT'S INVOLVES THE ACTUAL INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT'S GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN IT. MY AUNTS LIVE ON EAST FIFTH, MY COUSIN ON FOURTH STREET. WE HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, GUS, I HEAR A LOT OF TALK OF A LOT OF MEETINGS, THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. INVOLVE THE PEOPLE IN THIS DIALOGUE. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

Mayor Garcia: LET ME SAY THAT ALL OF THE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN HELD BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITH CAPITAL METRO, ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCED TO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THEY'VE HAD BECAUSE THEY MOSTLY HAVE BEEN COORDINATED BY CAPITAL METRO.

I APPRECIATE YOUR STATEMENT, GUS. THAT'S VERY WELL TAKE PLACE, BUT I HAVE HEARD SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ANOINTED THE SPOKESPERSON OR LEADERS OR WHATEVER. THAT'S NOT TRUE, THEY HAVE NEVER LIVED ON EAST FIFTH STREET. IF YOU WANT TO GO OVER THERE, ASK THE COMMUNITY THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL OF THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION GENERAL. AND UNLESS MR. CLAYTON L. LEVERETTE SHOWED UP. CLAYTON T. LEVERETTE SHOWED UP. DID HE COME IN? OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK THE CITY CLERK TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS.

Clerk Brown: ON ITEM 33 COUNCILMEMBERS WHERE IT SAYS LOCATED AT 4323, IT SHOULD READ THEN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 53,047. ITEM NO. 36 HAS BEEN POSTPONED INDEFINITELY. ITEM NO. 50, SHOULD READ: FOR AN ANNUAL PREMIUM MUM IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $100,000 FOR EACH OF THE THREE EXTENSION OPTIONS FOR A TOTAL READVISED CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,515,504. FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $100,000 IS AVAILABLE. FOR ITEM 41, APPROVE AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE APPROVED FISCAL YEAR 2002-2003 OPERATING BUDGET TO CONTINUE THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH KENNETH THREADGILL'S MUSICAL FOUNDATION, AUSTIN, TEXAS, FOR MANAGEMENT AND OPERATION OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC NETWORK IN THE AMOUNT OF $675,000 FOR THE FIFTH YEAR OF THE CONTRACT FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $3,223,000. ITEM 51, INSTEAD OF THE APPROXIMATELY 227 ACRES THAT SHOULD BE 228 ACRES. ITEM 57, DELETE THE WORDS A NINE-MEMBER AND PUT INSTEAD AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE. ITEM 59 IS ALSO SPONSORED BY MAYOR GUS GARCIA. ITEM 60 IS ALSO SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBER RAUL ALVAREZ. AND ITEM 65, THE TIME FOR THE SUGGESTED PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE 4:00 P.M. INSTEAD OF 6:00 P.M. THE TIME CERTAIN ITEMS, WE HAVE JUST CONCLUDED CITIZENS COMMUNICATION, ZONING IS AT 4:00 P.M. AND INCLUDES ITEMS Z-1 THROUGH Z-13. PLEASE NOTE THAT STAFF IS REQUESTING POSTPONEMENT OF Z-1 TO DECEMBER 12th, 2002 AT 4:00 P.M. AND Z-4, SLAUGHTER LANE, TO JANUARY 6 January 6th -- I BELIEVE THAT'S JANUARY 9th, AT 4:00 P.M.

IS THAT 16th OR 9th?

THE 9th, MAYOR.

5:00 P.M. IS THE NEAR TERM CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, ITEM 66 665:30 P.M. LIVE MUSIC AND PROCLAMATIONS, 6:00 P.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS, ITEMS 67 AND 68. THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION ARE ITEMS NUMBER 14, WHICH WILL BE TAKEN UP AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS NUMBER 67. ITEM 20 WAS PULLED BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER. 22 BY COUNCILMEMBER WYNN. 27 BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER AND WYNN. 41 BY COUNCILMEMBER WYNN. 58 BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER AND ALVAREZ. AND 59 BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY.

WYNN: HAIR?

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN? WITHIN WIN STAFF HAS ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS ON ITEM NO. 22, SO IT CAN BE PLACED BAY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

Mayor LACED BACK ON THE CONSTANT.

Mayor Garcia: ITEM 22 WILL NOT BE A DISCUSSION ITEM. THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE NEXT ITEM IS A PREVIEW OF ITEMS FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS IN THE FUTURE. CITY MANAGER?

Futrell:: ONE ITEM THAT WE HAVE COMING BACK ON THE 12th IS WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING A BRIEFING ON THE REDEVELOPMENT OF REPUBLIC SQUARE. SOMETHING BOTH YOU MAYOR AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM HOPED FOR A PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF. WE WILL BE DOING A BRIEFING OF THAT ON THE 12th.

> Mayor Garcia: OKAY. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? I HAVE A COUPLE MYSELF. FOR THE DECEMBER 12th MEETING TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE INTEL PROPERTY AND SITE AS A PREFERRED LOCATION FOR THE PROPOSED NEW FEDERAL COURTHOUSE. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE SPONSORED BY ME AND MAYOR PRO TEM GOODMAN AND COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER. AND THEN FOR THE DECEMBER 12 December 12th AGENDA, WE WILL HAVE TWO ITEMS HAVING TO DO WITH THE MUNICIPAL COURT. ONE IS TO CONSIDER APPOINTING A FULL-TIME MUNICIPAL COURT. ONE OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGES, JUDGE ELIZABETH EARLE, HAS RESIGNED TO TAKE HER POSITION IN THE ELECTED OFFICE THAT SHE WON THIS PAST NOVEMBER. THEAND THE SECOND ITEM IS -- AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM IS TO CONSIDER APPOINTING A DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY COURT JUDGE. WE WILL BE DOING TWO THINGS. ONE IS APPOINTING ANOTHER MEMBER TO THE MUNICIPAL, TO THE FULL-TIME MUNICIPAL COURT CONTINGENT AND ONE OF THE FULL-TIME JUDGES WILL BE APPOINTED TO THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY COURT. DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT DECISION. WE WILL -- WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THIS ITEM -- THESE ITEMS IN A MEETING OF THE -- OF THE JUDICIAL COMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL AND THEN WE WILL TAKE -- WE WILL HAVE THESE TWO ITEMS POSTED. BOTH IN THAT COMMITTEE MEETING AND ALSO IN THE COUNCIL MEETING. ITEM 58, LET'S SEE, THERE'S A REQUEST, MS. BROWN, ON ITEM 18, THERE'S A REQUEST BY COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLY TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM, IS THAT FOR ONE WEEK? OKAY. ITEM 18 IS REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT. SO WE WILL READ THAT INTO THE RECORD AS A CONSENT ITEM FOR POSTPONEMENT FOR DECEMBER THE 12th. AND -- ITEM NO. 58, IS IT 58 OR 59?

Thomas: 58, MAYOR, IF WEBLGD JUST POST -- IF WE COULD JUST POSTPONE IT TO THE 12th, THE NEXT MEETING.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY, ITEM NO. 58 COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL DECEMBER THE 12th. SO WE CAN CONSIDER THAT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THIS ITEM HAD BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, SO -- SO WE WILL -- THAT WILL NOT BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION AGENDA, IT WILL BE PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR POSTPONEMENT. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS OR ITEMS TO COME BEFORE THE -- BEFORE THE COUNCIL ON FUTURE AGENDAS?

Alvarez: MAYOR?

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ?

Alvarez: I WAS AN PATRIOTING TODAY TO APPOINT SOMEONE TO THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION, BUT I REALIZED THEY WILL LIVE JUST OUTSIDE THE CITY, SO I WILL BE ASKING COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A RESIDENCE WAIVER NEXT --

Slusher: ONLY ANNEXATION?

Alvarez: NO, JUST A WAIVER [ LAUGHTER ]

Mayor Garcia: OKAY, WE WILL NOT DO 56. THAT WAS THE ONLY APPOINTMENT THAT WE HAD, CORRECT.

Clerk Brown: NO, THERE IS ONE OTHER, COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS HAS AN APPOINTMENT.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS ON ITEMS TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL IN FUTURE MEETINGS? IF NOT, WE WILL GO TO THE READING OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, MS. BROWN?

Clerk Brown: THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR TODAY, ITEM 13 IS THE APPROVAL OF THE WORK SESSION MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 20th AND THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 21st. ITEMS 15, ITEM 16 IS AN ORDINANCE DOING ALL THREE READINGS, ITEM 17 IS THE THIRD READING, ITEM 18 IS ON CONSENT FOR POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 12th, ITEM 19 IS FOR SECOND AND THIRD READING AND I BELIEVE MR. GURP SEE HAS SOMETHING HE WOULD LIKE TO -- GUERNSEY HAS SOMETHING THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO YOU WHEN WE GET DONE READING THESE ITEMS. ITEM 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33 WITH THE CHANGES THAT WERE READ IN EARLIER, 34, 35, 36, FOR AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT, 37, 38, 39, 40 WITH THE CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51 IS AN ORDINANCE, ALL THREE READINGS, AND WAS ON THE CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS, 52, 53 IS AN ORDINANCE FOR ALL THREE READINGS, 54 AN AROUND FOR ALL THREE READINGS, 55, 56, IS THE APPOINTMENT TO THE ZONING AND PLATTING COMMISSION OF JOHN PHILLIP -- [INAUDIBLE], THANK YOU, DENISEE, COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS' APPOINTMENT, ITEM 57 FOR THE CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS, ITEM 58 FOR POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 12th. ITEM 60 FOR THE CHANGES, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, WHICH THE -- AS READ IN THE CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS.

Mayor Garcia: EVERYTHING ELSE IS TIME CERTAIN? ZONING AND THEN THE [INAUDIBLE] CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AT 5:00, PROCLAMATIONS AT 5:30, PUBLIC HEARINGS AT 6:00.

Slusher: MAYOR?

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER?

Slusher: I WOULD PUT BACK ON 20 AND CONGRATULATE MR. OLIVERES AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR WORKING OUT A SOLUTION THAT SEEMS TO HAVE PLEASED ABOUT EVERYONE INVOLVED.

THAT WOULD BE ALL THREE READINGS?

Slusher: THAT'S CORRECT.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK WITH -- ON THIS CONSENT AGENDA. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NEW TO THE MEETINGS HERE, THE COUNCIL RECEIVES THE AGENDA ON THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE THURSDAY OF OUR MEETING AND HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE ITEMS. THOSE ITEMS THAT -- THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DISCUSS ARE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BY INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBERS, THAT'S BEEN ANNOUNCED ALREADY. THE OTHER ITEMS THAT THE CLERK READ INTO THE RECORD WILL BE CONSIDERED IN ONE VOTE AFTER WE HAVE SPEAKERS APPEARED EXPLANATIONS BY STAFF AND MR. GUERNSEY I AM GOING TO RECOGNIZE YOU. I GUESS IT'S ON ITEM 19?

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS GREG GUERNSEY WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPEND. I WANTED TO POINT OUT THERE IS A VALID PETITION OF 39%. THE PROPERTY OWNER AND ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER HAVE WORKED OUT AN AGREEMENT. IT'S NOT COMPLETELY FINALIZED YET AND THE MAJORITY OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY HAD AGREED TO ARE IN A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HAS AGREED VOLUNTARILY TO ENTER INTO. IN PARTICULAR, THERE WAS ONE ITEM THAT SPEAKS TO A PARKING FACILITY ADJACENT TO A 25-FOOT BUFFER. AND BOTH PARTIES AND THERE'S A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OWNER HERE ALSO A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER ARE HERE AND THEY MAY WANT TO SPEAK FURTHER TO THIS. BUT THEY HAVE AGREED TO DELETE ITEM NO. 2, ALTHOUGH THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT IED IN THAT MAY BE ADDED -- I UNDERSTAND THAT MAY BE ADDED. MR. RICHARD SUTTLE JUNIOR IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, JIM WITLIF IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE [INAUDIBLE] MR. SUTTLE WOULD LIKE TO CLAIRE PIE ONE POINT REGARDING TO THE LOCATION OF THE PARKING FACILITY ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY. CLARIFY ONE POINT.

Mayor Garcia: MR. SUTTLE.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS RICHARD SUTTLE HERE ON BEHALF OF FLAGSHIP PROPERTIES. THEY OWN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ADJACENT TO THE TRACT THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF THE REZONING. WE ARE THE REASON THERE IS A VALID PETITION. THIS CASE STARTED OUT WHERE MY CLIENT DID NOT WANT A CAR DEALERSHIP NEXT TO THEIR MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT BECAUSE IT -- THEY'VE HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE BEFORE, THEY REALLY DIDN'T WANT ANOTHER ONE. IN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT, WE HAVE WORKED OUT AN AGREEMENT, MOST OF THE THINGS ARE DOCUMENTED. MY CLIENT IS IN HOUSTON, WE HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS JUST THIS WEEK, WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO FINALIZE THOSE DOCUMENTS. THE ISSUES THAT ARE REMAINING NOW ARE THAT WE DON'T WANT ANY STRUCTURED PARKING ON THE TRACT, AND THEN, TWO, WE DON'T WANT DRAINAGE STRUCTURES IN THE 25-FOOT BUFFER THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT. I THINK ALL WE HAVE HERE IS AN ISSUE OF JUST LAWYERS HAMMERING OUTS THE DOCUMENTS. WE CAN BE READY NEXT WEEK FOR THIRD READING. WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU DO SECOND READING TODAY, THIRD READING NEXT WEEK. WE CAN BRING IT BACK AND HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE NO ISSUE AND THE VALID PETITION WILL GO AWAY.

Mayor Garcia: MR. GUERNSEY, CAN YOU BE READY NEXT WEEK.

I THINK WE CAN BE READY BECAUSE THE ITEMS ARE SO FEW, SEEM TO BE PRECISE, REMOVING THE STRUCTURE FROM THE 25-FOOT BUFFER, I THINK WE CAN BRING THAT BACK FOR THIRD READING. KEEP IT ON SECOND TODAY AND KEEP IT ON CONSENT.

Mayor Garcia: ITEM NO. 19 WILL BE ONLY FOR SECOND READING. THAT WAS A REQUEST MADE BY MR. SUTTLE AND I GUESS AGREED TO BY THE APPLICANT. COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER?

Slusher: MID MY UNDERSTANDING THE NEIGHBOR WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE GROW GREEN ON THERE, IF WE COULD PUT THAT ON THERE THE NATIVE PLANTS PROGRAM.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I AM JIT WHITLIFF, COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER, WE ARE OKAY WITH THE GROW GREEN PROGRAM, YES, SIR.

Mayor Garcia: YOU ARE OKAY WITH SECOND READING TODAY?

YEAH, I THINK IT WILL BE ACCEPTABLE TODAY.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. MR. WHITLIFF REPRESENTS THE OWNER. OKAY. MR. PEDRO MARTINEZ, MATRIAS, SPEAKING ON ITEM NO. 57.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I COME HERE TO TOLD YOU ABOUT THE DAY LABOR SITUATION -- AS YOU KNOW, MR. MAYOR, THAT'S -- THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU ARE EXPECTING TO HAPPEN THERE OBVIOUSLY. AND I -- I THINK SO THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT, TO BENEFIT TO AUSTIN, IS TO TRY TO INVITE THE WORKERS WHO BEGINNING IN 1999 HE THEY -- THE ISSUE BEFORE WE MOVE THERE. AS YOU KNOW, ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON THE -- ON THE PEOPLE WHO USED TO BE IN THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IN THE SITE THERE, THEY KNOW ALL THE [SPEAKING IN SPANISH] NOBODY SPEAK UP. I AM GOING TO APPRECIATE YOU ARE VERY HONEST IN THIS ISSUE TO TRY TO ASK THEM TO BE PART OF THIS. BUT IT WAS THE FIRST OFFER THE CITY COUNCIL DID THREE YEARS AGO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, MR. MARTIAS. ANOTHER PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS MR. SABINO, HE INDICATED THAT HE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK AND HE IS AGAINST ITEM NO. 06, PLEASE GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT LEAST TWO WEEKS TO STUDY THIS PLAN -- ITEM NO. 60. THIS -- THIS ITEM IS NOT A PLAN AS SUCH. THIS IS ITEM NO. 60 IS TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH CAPITAL METRO. SO THERE WILL BE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS, -- [INAUDIBLE] BETWEEN CAP AT THE TIME AND THE CITY MANAGER AND THE -- BETWEEN CAPITAL METRO AND THE CITY MANAGER AND THE RESOLUTION SPEAKS TO THAT. THAT'S ALL OF THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. LET ME READ THEM INTO THE RECORD AGAIN, THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM NO. 13 IS APPROVE OF THE MINUTES FROM THE WORK SESSION OF NOVEMBER 20th AND THE REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 21st OF THE YEAR 2002, ITEM 15, ITEM 16 ON ALL THREE READINGS, ITEM 17 ON THIRD READING, ITEM 18 FOR POSTPONEMENT UNTIL DECEMBER THE 12th, ITEM 19 FOR SECOND READING ONLY, ITEM 20 FOR ALL THREE READINGS, 21, ITEM 22, IS THAT FOR ALL THREE READINGS, COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

WYNN: YES, SIR.

Mayor Garcia: SO 22 IS ALL THREE READINGS. 23, 24, 25, 26, 23, 24, 25, 26, 2628, 29 -- 26, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, FOR A POSTPONEMENT INDEFINITELY, 37, 38, 39, 40, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51 FOR -- FOR CONSENT FOR ALL THREE READINGS WITH THE CHANGES READ INTO THE RECORD, 52, 53 FOR ALL THREE READINGS, 54 FOR ALL THREE READINGS, 55, 56 WITH A -- WITH APPOINTMENTS READ INTO THE RECORD BY THE CITY CLERK, 57, 58, FOR POSTPONEMENT UNTIL -- UNTIL DECEMBER THE 12th. COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER HAD PULLED THIS ITEM FOR DISCUSSION, BUT THE -- BUT THE -- THE ITEM -- THE MEMBER THAT PROPOSED THIS ONE WANTS TO POSTPONE IT UNTIL DECEMBER THE 12th. 60, 61, 62, 63, 6:00 4 -- 64 AND 65. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLY. DISCUSSION?

Slusher: MAYOR, IF YOU WOULD SHOW ME AN STAPLING ON NUMBER 60, I'M -- SHOW ME ABSTAINING ON NUMBER 60. I'M ON THE CAPITAL METRO BOARD. I'M AFRAID THAT MIGHT PRECLUDE MY OPTIONS BY VOTING TO ADVISE MYSELF TO DO SOMETHING ON THIS BODY.

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS, DO YOU WANT TO ABSTAIN, TOO?

Thomas: [INAUDIBLE]

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. FURTHER COMMENTS? MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR --

Alvarez: MAYOR, PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT NUMBER 60 WHICH RELATES TO THE CAPITAL METRO CORRIDOR THERE ALONG FOURTH AND FIFTH STREET, BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE FUTURE, THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT CORRIDOR. AND REALLY WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM EVERYONE INVOLVED IS THAT NEIGHBORS WANT TO HAVE A PLACE AT THE TABLE. AND SO THERE'S -- THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOME DIFFERENT FOLKS WHO -- ALL WHO I THINK HAVE BEEN SAYING VERY SIMILAR THINGS. MAINLY BEING THAT THE NEIGHBORS WANT TO HAVE A VOICE IN THE PROCESS. AND SO TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, THERE IS THAT CONSISTENCY. WITH THIS RESOLUTION, I THINK WHAT IT ALLOWS IS THE CITY TO BE INVOLVED AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING FACILITATED BY CAPITAL METRO. IT'S A LITTLE OUT OF OUR JURISDICTION. BUT I BELIEVE IN IN THE CITY -- IF THE CITY AND CAPITAL METRO COME TO SOME AGREEMENT AS TO HOW DECISIONS RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT ARE GOING TO OCCUR, THEN THE CITY AND COUNCILMEMBERS AND THE MAYOR HAVE -- HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF AN INTEREST IN BEING INVOLVED AND SO THAT'S I -- I THINK TO ME THAT'S REALLY THE INTENT OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE. IT'S NOT TO NECESSARILY PUSH THIS PROCESS ALONG FASTER, IT'S TO -- TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE NEIGHBORS, LIKE WE HAVE IN A LOT OF OTHER AREAS IN EAST AUSTIN AROUND MUELLER, AROUND 11th AND 12th STREET, BUT LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND DEFINE A PROCESS FOR MOVING FORWARD IN THIS -- IN THIS AREA, IN THIS PARTICULAR TRACT OF LAND AND SO I REALLY THINK THERE'S SOME POSITIVE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING. GOOD -- GOOD MOVEMENT, SOME ACTIVITY, A LOT OF INTEREST ON THIS -- IN THIS ISSUE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO BUILD ON THAT, MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CREATE A PROCESS THAT IS OPEN AND INVITING TO EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO HAVE A SAY, THAT'S REALLY I THINK IN TERMS OF MY INTENT IS MAKING SURE THAT WE WORKING WITH EVERYONE, ALL OF THE INTERESTED PARTIES AND-- AND THE CITY BECAUSE IT DOES DEAL DEL WITH DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING AND -- NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND THOSE ARE ALL REASONS WHY I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE MORE OF A STAKE IN WHAT HAPPENS. WE DO HAVE A STRIKE BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A PLACE IN THE PROCESS. I HOPE WE CAN WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AT CAPITAL METRO AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ALL OF THE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED THUS FAR, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT -- THAT ALL OF THE VOICES ARE REPRESENTED AT THE TABLE. BUT I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE AND COMING UP WITH AN IDEA FOR WHAT I THINK IS A VERY POSITIVE WAY FOR US TO LOOK AT WHAT DEVELOPMENT MAY OCCUR HERE AND THE -- IN A WAY THAT'S VERY INCLUSIVE.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA?

Thomas: YEAH, MAYOR I WANTED TO COMMENTS ON THE SAME ONE ONE ON NUMBER 60, THAT COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ COMMENTED O. ALSO I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO LET THE CITIZENS KNOW THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS THAT WE HAVE ON CAPITAL METRO, MADE ALL EFFORTS OF COMMUNICATING AND LETTING PEOPLE KNOW, AWARE OF THE MEETINGS AND ALSO TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY ARE WELCOME TO THE MEETING. AND NOT ONLY JUST THE PLANNERS. I MEANT TO SAY THAT WHILE MR. PEEP I CAN'T WAS HERE, TO LET -- WHILE MR. PENA WAS HERE TO LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S OPEN TO EVERYBODY WHO IS PARS PAILGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU -- PARTICIPATING.

THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, NO. MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF 7 TO 0. AND NOW WE WILL GO TO THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE IS -- LET'S SEE. ITEM NO. 27 PULLED BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER AND WIN. IF WE COULD HAVE A PRESENTATION BY STAFF ON THIS ITEM, TO APPROVE NEGOTIATION, EXECUTION OF AMENDMENTS TO THE EXISTING PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH BARNES ARCHITECT PLUS GOETTING & ASSOCIATES PLUS JASTER QUINTANILLA JOINT VENTURE FOR ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER PARKING GARAGE AND DISTRICT COOLING PLANT.

MAYOR, I'M PETER REIKE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS. WE WERE REALLY NOT INTENDING TO DO A PRESENTATION. WE WERE ASSUMING TO RESPOND TO COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER'S AND COUNCILMEMBER WYNN'S QUESTIONS.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER OR COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, WHO WANTS TO KICK-OFF?

WYNN: I WILL START, MAYOR.

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

WYNN: THANK YOU, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER. MR. REIKE, I GUESS MY QUESTIONS ORIGINATED FROM JUST THE CONCEPT OF -- OF WE -- OBVIOUSLY WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME, EFFORTS, MONEY, WORK, I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN OVER TO THE ARCHITECT'S OFFICE, I HAVE SEEN A SUBSTANTIAL MODEL A YEAR OR MORE AGO OF THIS PROPOSED GARAGE. WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY DONE A BUNCH OF WORK. IT SEEMED TO ME THAT -- THAT MODEL THAT I SAW CONTEMPLATED, YOU KNOW, APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER OR A THIRD OF THE SITE BEING -- BEING, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN ENERGY COOLING TOWER AND FACILITY. JUST STRIKES ME THAT -- YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE HAD THIS EXISTING -- $1.2 MILLION A. AND E. CONTRACT, WITH THIS REVISION WE ARE ASKING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL 3 3.2 MILLION TO IT. FIRST AND FOREMOST I WAS STRUCK BY THE END MORE TEE OF THE -- END NOR TEE OF THE -- ENORMITY OF THE CONTRACT. IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS IT'S NOT THAT COMPLEX OF A CHALLENGE.

COUNCILMEMBER, THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT FOR 1.4 MILLION WAS FOR THE DESIGN OF A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION. AND WHEN THE TEAM, AS IED IN IT, WENT TO THE DESIGN, IT BECAME CLEAR THAT CERTAIN CHANGES TO THE ORIGINAL INTENDED DESIGN WERE NECESSARY. ONE WAS ACCESS TO THE PARKING GARAGE, WHICH RESULTED IN SOME CHANGES TO THE GARAGE LAYOUT ITSELF. THEM AS A SECOND ISSUE, BUT PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY, THAT THE DISTRICT PLAN WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO BE ACCOMMODATED AS A SUBSURFACE ELEMENT OF THE PARKING GARAGE, BUT HAD TO, DUE TO GROUND WATER LIMITATIONS AND OTHER SITE RESTRICTIONS, AND ACTUALLY HAD TO BE PLACED NEXT TO THE GARAGE, SO PART OF THAT ORIGINAL MONEY WAS ACTUALLY UTILIZED TO DEVELOP THE CONCEPTS OF WHAT THE GARAGE AND DISTRICT PLANT LAYOUT WOULD BE INSTEAD OF THE ORIGINAL INTENT. SO A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL MOPE, NOT ALL -- MONEY, NOT ALL OF IT, HAD BEEN UTILIZED TO COME TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE TODAY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE -- IF YOU LOOK AT THE R.C.A., THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE -- OF THE ADDITIONAL DESIGN COSTS, THIS IS GOING THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, BY THE WAY, IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE DESIGN, BUT ALSO FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, ADMINISTRATION SERVICES, IS FOR THE DISTRICT COOLING PLANT. MID INNING IS THAT THE DISTRICT COOLING PLANT HAS CHANGED SIZE AND NATURE IN TERMS OF THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT, THE SIZE OF EQUIPMENT AND ITS INTENDED USE FROM THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT. AND HAS INCREASED IN SCOPE RELATIVE TO THE DESIGN COSTS FROM WHAT WE ANTICIPATED ORIGINALLY. [ONE MOMENT PLEASE FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS] WIN IT SEEMS TO ME THAT --

9.8 MILLION.

9,775,000 IS WHAT WE ESTIMATE THE CONSTRUCTION COST TO BE.

Wynn: SO THEREFORE WE ASSUMED ABOUT A FIVE-MILLION-DOLLAR LAND COST ON THE GARAGE PORTION OF THE SITE?

WELL, PLUS THE DESIGN COST. THE PROJECT COST IS 14.1 MILLION.

Wynn: OKAY. AND I KNOW THAT ARCHITECTURALLY THE PROJECT HAS GONE THROUGH SEVERAL COMMISSIONS, PROBABLY THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION, THE DESIGN COMMISSION, AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, SOME CRITICAL COMMENTS MADE AT CERTAIN PARTS OF THOSE -- IN THAT PROCESS. DOES THIS CONTRACT ASSUME INCORPORATING AS MANY OF THOSE CONTRACTS AS POSSIBLE OR WILL THIS ARCHITECTURALLY TRY TO ACHIEVE SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE PROBABLY RECEIVED FROM THE DESIGN COMMISSION AND DOWNTOWN COMMISSION?

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT DOES, FOR INSTANCE. AGAIN, I BELIEVE THE ENTRANCES TO THE GARAGE WERE CHANGED FROM COMMENTS TO THE DESIGN COMMISSION AND THE DOWNTOWN ALLIANCE. AND I THINK SOME OTHER ELEMENTS WERE ADDRESSED BY THE ARCHITECT. I THINK JOHN STEVENS COULD PROVIDE A MORE IN-DEPTH ANSWER ON THIS QUESTION.

COUNCILMEMBER, IT DOES INCLUDE BASICALLY TWO CHANGES THAT WE HEARD FROM BOTH THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION AND THE DESIGN COMMISSION, ONE OF WHICH IS TO TAKE AWAY THE EXITS. WE HAD ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO HAVE TWO ENTRANCES AND EXITS INTO THE GARAGE, ONE ON FIFTH AND ONE ON FOURTH. WE ARE TAKING AWAY THE FOURTH STREET EXIT, AND THERE BY ALLOWING THAT FOURTH STREET ACCESS THERE TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY IN THE FUTURE OR FOR WHATEVER PEDESTRIAN USES ARE THERE, BUT IN ADDITION IT ALSO INCLUDES AN ADDITIONAL 25,000 OF RETAIL SPACE THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE GARAGE, PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT'S -- IT'S AVAILABLE PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE ARE TAKING THAT EXIT AWAY.

Wynn: AND MY LAST COMMENT BEFORE I YIELD THE FLOOR BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER, AT ONE POINT MUCH EARLIER IN THE GESTATION OF THIS PROJECT, PROBABLY TWO FULL YEARS AGO NOW, I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT AS PART OF THE DESIGN OF THIS GARAGE ARE WE CONTEMPLATING THE FUTURE LIKELIHOOD OF I-35 BEING RECONSTRUCTED LIKELY TO PRESS BELOW GRADE AND THEREFORE THE CAPITOL VIEW CORRIDOR THAT EXISTS FROM THE ELEVATED PORTION OF I-35 IN THEORY GOES AWAY? AND SO THE CAPITOL VIEW CORRIDOR THAT GOES ACROSS SH PROPERTY THAT CURRENTLY HAS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES ITS DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL, PERHAPS GOES AWAY AS WELL. AND SO HAVE WE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF UPGRADING THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS OF THE GARAGE AND THEREFORE IN THEORY, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SEVEN OR 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD IT COULD BE CONSTRUCTED ON TOP OF THE GARAGE. IS THAT PART OF THIS?

THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS AMENDMENT. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL STRUCTURAL CAPACITY, NOR THE DESIGN OF THAT CAPACITY INCLUDED IN THE COST THAT'S PRESENTED IN THIS AMENDMENT.

Wynn: HOW COMPLICATED AN ANALYSIS IS THAT? IF WE'RE PAYING AN ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERING FIRM $4.6 MILLION AND THEY SPEND, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE WEEKS ANALYZING ADDITIONAL --

I CAN THEORIZE ON THIS SOMEWHAT, COUNCILMEMBER. THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKED INTO. FOR INSTANCE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ESTABLISH AN HYPOTHETICAL HEIGHT FOR THE BUILDING. YOU WOULD HAVE TO ESTABLISH FLOOR NUMBERS, WHAT KIND OF BUILDING MATERIALS YOU ANTICIPATE, FLOOR HEIGHT, ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND YOU WOULD BE SPECULATING IN ALL LIKELIHOOD WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF TANGIBLE DATA. SO IF YOU REALLY WOULD WANT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, YOU WOULD PROBABLY ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME KIND OF FEASIBILITY STUDY TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE COST -- THE EXTRA COST TO BUILD ON A SITE WHERE YOU HAVE A USE ALREADY EXISTING THAT NEEDS TO CONTINUE WHILE YOU ERECT A HI-RISE ON TOP OF IT, WHETHER THAT PREMIUM COST FOR INSTANCE, WOULD STILL MAKE IT FEASIBLE IN COMPARISON TO OTHER SITES THAT MAY NOT HAVE THOSE RESTRICTIONS IN ORDER TO DETERMINE HOW HIGH YOU NEED TO BUILD IN ORDER TO RECOUP THOSE COSTS AND MAKE THE WHOLE PRO FORMA WORK. SO THERE ARE SO MANY CORRECTIONS IN THERE THAT YOU WOULD BASICALLY HAVE TO DESIGN FOR THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE UTILIZATION OF THE BUILDING. BUT WE FIRST WOULD LOSE A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT MIGHT BE, AND THEN BECAUSE OF THE LIKELY DIAMETERS OR DIMENSIONS OF COLUMNS, NARROWER SPACING, THICKER OR SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER SIZES, WE WOULD HAVE TO REVISIT THE GARAGE BECAUSE IT'S VERY LIKELY TO WE LOSE A NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES ON THE CURRENT ONE AND WE MAY HAVE TO ADD A DECK OF PARKING TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF FACTORS IN THERE, SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT'S NOT A CONSIDERATION.

Wynn: THAT'S ALL FOR NOW, MAYOR. I'LL YIELD TO COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER.

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER?

Slusher: I THINK MY QUESTIONS WERE COVERED, MAYOR.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR -- DID WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM?

Slusher: I MOVE APPROVAL.

Mayor Garcia: MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER TO APPROVE ITEM 27. IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ. DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO. THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 41 APPROVE AMENDMENT NUMBER 8 TO INCORPORATE THE APPROVAL FISCAL YEAR 2002-2003 BUDGET TO THE CURRENT CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT OF $675,000 AS APPROVED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2002-2003 BUDGET FOR SERVICES FOR THE FIFTH YEAR OF THE CONTRACT WITH KENNETH THREAD GILL'S MUSICAL FOUNDATION. AND THIS WAS PULLED BY COUNCILMEMBER WYNN.

MAYOR, WHAT YOU JUST READ WAS PRIOR TO THE REVISIONS THAT ARE ON YOUR CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS.

Mayor Garcia: CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. SO THE CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS ARE APPROVE AMENDMENT NO. 8 IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE APPROVED FISCAL YEAR 2002-2003 UPGRADING BUDGET TO CONTINUE THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT WITH KENNETH THREADGILL'S MUSICAL FOUNDATION FOR OPERATION OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC NETWORK IN AN AMOUNT OF $675,000 FOR THE FIFTH YEAR OF THE CONTRACT, FOR THE TOTAL CONTRACT NOT TO EXCEED $3,223,000. COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

Wynn: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE ALL RELATED TO JUST THE CONCEPT OF WHY WASN'T THIS CONTRACT REVIEWED BY THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION OF? IT SEEMS TO ME IF YOU LOOK AT IT FINANCIALLY, THIS DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF MUSICIANS, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE STAFF PERCEIVES THE ROLE OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION TO BE ON THIS ISSUE.

I BELIEVE AS WE HAVE -- FIRST, FOR THE RECORD, I'M VICKY SLEW BETTER, ACTING DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES. WE ARE NOW IN THE SECOND YEAR OF A -- OF THE FIRST OPTION OF THE CONTRACT. THE FIRST CONTRACT THAT WAS AWARDED WAS AWARDED TO A DIFFERENT COMPANY. THAT WAS A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT. I BELIEVE TWO YEARS AGO THAT CONTRACT WAS ASSIGNED TO THE KENNETH THREADGILL MUSIC FOUNDATION. AND LAST YEAR WE RENEWED OR WE DID AN OPTION FOR ANOTHER 36-MONTH CONTRACT. SO WE -- I BELIEVE THE WAY WE LOOKED AT IT IS WE FELT LIKE WE HAD ALREADY COMMITTED TO A CONTRACT; HOWEVER, WHEN WE DID THAT ACTION LAST YEAR, WE DID NOT BRING TO COUNCIL A FUNDING AMOUNT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO LEAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO DETERMINE THE LEVEL OF FUNDING. SO I THINK WE BELIEVED -- THE WAY WE LOOKED AT IT, WE WERE IN THE SECOND YEAR OF AN EXTENSION OPTION THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, WE WERE MERELY BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU THE FUNDING OF THAT SECOND YEAR OF THE EXTENSION OPTION. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T TAKE IT TO THE COMMISSION.

Wynn: OKAY. I THINK IT SEEMS REASONABLE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. IT'S JUST THAT IT JUST STRUCK ME AS BEING -- YOU KNOW, THE LION'S SHARE OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO FOR LOCAL MUSICIANS, JUSTIFIABLY, I HAD ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THE TECHNICALITIES OF CONTRACT COMPLIANCE BECAUSE WE TRY TO LOOK AT AS WE ROLL CONTRACTS OVER OR EXERCISE OPTIONS, AND IS IT YOUR BELIEF THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE EXISTING CONTRACT?

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON THE STAFF'S ANALYSIS. AND IN FACT, LAST YEAR WHEN WE BROUGHT THE SECOND THREE-YEAR EXTENSION OPTION TO YOU, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT UPGRADE OF THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT ELEMENTS OF THE AUDIT. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF REQUIREMENTS IMPOSED ON THE MUSIC FOUNDATION IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT THEY GO OUT AND FILM LIVE MUSICIANS AND SEVERAL OTHER AREAS. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT, I HAVE JIM BUTLER WITH OUR STAFF WHO COULD TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE SPECIFIC ELEMENTS THAT WERE IN THE CONTRACT AND HOW THEY HAVE PERFORMED.

Wynn: OKAY. I HAPPENED TO GLANCE AT IT AND I GUESS I SAW IN EXHIBIT A THAT WAS ENTITLED PERFORMANCE MEASURES. AND THERE WERE A NUMBER ON THERE THAT STRUCK ME AS, YOU KNOW, NOT -- YOU KNOW, NOT BEING MET RIGHT NOW, SO I THUMBED THROUGH IT A LITTLE MORE AND I FOUND IN SECTION 4-A OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC NETWORK MANAGEMENT SERVICES AGREEMENT IT SAYS THAT THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION SHALL PROVIDE THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS. AND IT SAYS THE CITY RETAINS CONTROL OVER ALL BROAD PROGRAMMING POLICIES AND THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAILY OPERATIONS OF OUR PROGRAMMING POLICIES. THE FACT THAT IT JUST STATES THAT THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION SHALL PROVIDE THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION AND THEN WE HAVE AN EXHIBIT 1-A THAT LISTS THOSE PERFORMANCE MEASURES, IT JUST SEEMS PRUDENT TO HAVE THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION JUST TELL US FROM AN OBJECTIVE THIRD-PARTY STANDPOINT WHETHER THOSE PERFORMANCE MEASURES HAVE BEEN MET. AND I GUESS I JUST -- I WOULD JUST BE MORE COMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT OCCUR.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE OPERATING MANAGER OF THE MUSIC NETWORK DOES GO TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS AND PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT PERSON HAS GONE AND PROVIDED A FULL EVALUATION OF THEIR PERFORMANCE OR NOT.

Wynn: AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT THE CURRENT CONTRACT WE HAVE, THE KENNETH THREADGILL MUSIC FOUNDATION, IS A SUCCESSOR CONTRACTOR FOR THIS CONTRACT, SO THAT SORT OF BEGS THE QUESTION, SO PERHAPS SHOULD WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALTERED OR CHANGED THE CONTRACT KNOWING WHEN WE HAD A NEW CONTRACTOR STEP INTO THE SHOES. I ADMIRE THE KENNETH THREADGILL FOUNDATION FOR TAKING ON THAT ROLE WHEN WE WATER AND WASTEWATER A -- WE AS A CITY HAD THIS FLAPPING IN THE BREEZE TWO YEARS AGO. BUT I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE HAVING A CONTRACT THAT HAS AN EXHIBIT PERFORMANCE MEASURES BASED ON THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO EVALUATE THOSE PERFORMANCE MEASURES, AND THEY NOT DO THAT. IT MAY BE THAT IF THE COMMISSION LOOKED AT THESE EVALUATIONS, RECOGNIZING THERE'S A NEW CONTRACTOR, PERHAPS THEY SHOULD BE AMENDED. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. I WOULD HAD LIKE TO GET THEIR INPUT. I JUST FEEL COMFORTABLE HAVING AN OBJECTIVE THIRD-PARTY ANALYSIS, WHICH SEEMS TO ME THE MUSIC COMMISSION IS THERE FOR US AS A COUNCIL TO HELP WITH THESE TYPES OF DECISIONS, AND I'D PREFER TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. I'LL DEFER THE TABLE RIGHT NOW, MAYOR, BUT I GUESS IF WE NEED A MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER US ASKING THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO DO A SIMPLE FURTHER CONTRACT AND EVALUATION OF THOSE PERFORMANCE MEASURES. BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

Goodman: MAYOR?

Mayor Garcia: MAYOR PRO TEM.

Goodman: UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE COUNCILMEMBER'S DESIRE IS, LET ME OFFER SOME INSIGHTS AND PERHAPS A WAY TO DO BOTH, WHICH I THINK WILL BE SELF-EXPLANATORY WHY I BELIEVE THAT IF WE DO NOT TAKE ANY ACTION AT ALL ON THIS CONTRACT TODAY, THAT IS A HARDSHIP THAT THE NETWORK MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO OVERCOME BECAUSE THEY ARE HAND TO MOUTH, QUOTE, UNQUOTE. WHEN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS DRAFTED AND OF COURSE IT WAS A VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION AND A VERY DIFFERENT EXPECTATION, SO THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES, SOME RECOMMENDED BY THE MUSIC COMMISSION, WERE IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT OR CONTRACTOR, WHICHEVER, RICK MELTIER, whichever, Rick meltier, WAS GOING TO TRY A VERY DIFFERENT APPROACH THAN WE HAD IN THE PAST AND VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE FINALLY HAVE SETTLED INTO, WHICH IS ALSO NOT TOTALLY DESIRABLE IN THAT WE DON'T OFFER THE RESOURCES FOR THE VERY BEST NETWORK OPERATION IT COULD BE, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN WHERE IT SEEMED TO BE HEADED WITH THE OTHER CONTRACT AND THOSE PROVISIONS. NOW, TO SOME DEGREE STAFF, CITY STAFF, WOULD HAVE TO BE THE FACILITATOR AND/OR MEDIATOR OF A FORUM FOR THE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND REVIEW WHAT THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND PROVISIONS WERE EXPECTED TO BE. AND AS WITH THE NETWORK, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES IN THAT CONTEXT EITHER, SO THAT WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A MUSIC PERSON ON THE STAFF. WHEN ACVB BECAME ITS OWN ENTITY, OUR FORMER LIAISON WENT THERE, SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE KIND OF STAFF SUPPORT AND KNOW-HOW CURRENTLY ON CITY STAFF THAT WE DID BACK THEN. SO PROBABLY TOGETHER WITH IT BEING A WHOLE NEW BALLGAME IN TERMS OF THE CONTRACT AND EACH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND EXPECTATIONS AND HOPES FOR THE FUTURE, ALONG WITH NOT HAVING STAFF THAT CAN FACILITATE EEMP WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED IN THAT CONTRACT, PROBABLY NOBODY QUITE KNEW WHAT DIRECTION WE WERE TAKING RIGHT NOW. SINCE IT DOES -- IT COMES UP RELATIVELY FREQUENTLY IN COUNCIL DISCUSSIONS AND CERTAINLY WHEN THE STATESMAN REMINDS US THROUGH EDITORIAL OR OTHER THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED AND CERTAIN E-MAIL MESSAGES ARE ALWAYS DESIGNED TO GET OUR ATTENTION. BUT OTHER THAN THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD THE STAFF I THINK TO HELP THE COMMISSION DO SUCH A PERFORMANCE STANDARD CHECK. NOW, GIVEN ALL THAT, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, THEN IT WOULD BE NICE TO LOOK AT THE BENCHMARK AND SEE WITH A VERY DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT THAT CONTRACT IN THE FUTURE OF THAT NETWORK, HOW THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS OR BENCHMARKS SHOW UP FOR US. I THINK THAT WHAT MIGHT BE MORE PRACTICAL IS TO EXTEND AND/OR -- CITY LEGAL MAY HAVE SOME HELP FOR ME ON HOW TO PHRASE THIS, BUT DO A THREE-MONTH CONTRACTUAL ACTION TODAY INSTEAD OF THE YEAR SO THAT NOTHING DISINTEGRATES WHILE WE LOOK AT THE REVIEW THAT COUNCILMEMBER WYNN OR OTHERS MIGHT LIKE TO LOOK AT. SO THAT WOULD BE HOPEFULLY SOME INSIGHT, AND SECONDLY, MY REQUEST, COUNCILMEMBER WYNN.

Wynn: THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. WHEN I GLANCED AT THE CONTRACT I SAW THERE'S NO WAY THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE AND IT SAYS PERHAPS THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE. AND THIS CONTRACT SAYS AS AN EXAMPLE THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SET THE PROGRAMMING POLICY. I'VE NEVER BEEN ASKED WHETHER I WANT TO HAVE COUNTRY WESTERN ON TUESDAY NIGHT OR NOT. AND THE CONTRACT CLEARLY STATES THAT. IT SAYS THE MUSIC COMMISSION PROVIDES THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION AND WE CONTROL PROGRAMMING. WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT DOING THAT. SO I AGREE. SO I'M NOT COMFORTABLE JUST EXTENDING FOR ANOTHER 36 MONTHS OR WHATEVER THIS IS, YOU KNOW, 12 MONTHS EVEN, AN EXISTING LONG-TERM CONTRACT THAT WE'RE JUST IN A DIFFERENT WORLD THAN WE WERE WHEN THIS WAS NEGOTIATED APPARENTLY. SO I LIKE THE MAYOR PRO TEM'S SUGGESTION THAT WE DO SOME TYPE OF SHORTER TERM AMENDMENT TO PERHAPS KEEP THE THING AFLOAT WHILE WE DO A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT REEVALUATION OF WHAT IT IS WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND FIGURE OUT. I THINK IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE FOR THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION TO BE ADVISING US, AND THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMUNITY TO BE ADVISING ON SOMETHING THAT IS THE LION'S SHARE REALLY OF WHAT WE TRY TO DO FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.

Goodman: WELL, AND IN FURTHER CONTEXT, MAYOR, IF I CAN, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ALL OF US TO REVISIT THAT CONTRACT BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE FUNDING TO THE NETWORK WITH IS NOT NEARLY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED AND SO THERE IS AN IMPERATIVE FOR HOW TO BEST FULFILL THE CONTRACT. SO THE EXPECTATIONS ORIGINALLY WHEN THIS CONTRACT WAS WRITTEN WERE FOR A VASTLY LARGER DOLLAR AMOUNT OF OPERATING REVENUES AND THE EXPECTATION FOR COMMISERATE WITH THAT KIND OF OPERATIONAL BUDGET. SO THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND REFRESH OURSELVES ON AND SEE. REALISTICALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO EXPECT BENCHMARKS TO BE REACHED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO REACH THEM, THE PERSONALITY, EQUIPMENT, SO ON AND SO FORTH, THE ARCHIVING ABILITY TO ACCESS YOUR ARCHIVES, SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO ACTUALLY, IT IS A REALLY GOOD TIME FOR ALL OF US TO GO REVISIT THE CONTRACT, SO I THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT. WE GET SO CAUGHT UP IN SURVIVAL AND CREDIT CRITICISM THAT WE KIND OF FORGET ABOUT THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE CONTRACT ITSELF.

IF I MIGHT JUMP IN FOR A SECOND. AS YOU MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS, IF YOU WERE GOING TO PURSUE THE THREE-MONTH OPTION, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT YOU MAKE THE MOTION AS A THREE-MONTH HOLDOVER OF THE EXISTING CONTRACT RATHER THAN A THREE-MONTH NEW CONTRACT. SO WE HOLDOVER THE CURRENT YEAR CONTRACT FOR THREE MONTHS, WE JUST EXTEND IT FOR THREE MONTHS, WHICH WE CAN DO.

VICKY, THAT WOULD ESTIMATE AT ABOUT 55,000 A MONTH AS A ROUGH CUT EDIT.

> Goodman: 56,250.

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLEY?

Dunkerley: I THINK ANOTHER THING I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT AS WE'RE REVIEWING THIS DOCUMENT, KEEPING IN MIND THE LEVEL OF FUNDING WE HAVE, NUMBER ONE, I THINK ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT FUNDING COMES FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND THE BALANCE OF IT FROM ENTERPRISE FUNDS. BUT THE REAL ISSUE OR SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I'VE RECEIVED VIA E-MAIL IS THAT MANY OF THE MUSICIANS FEEL THAT IT COULD BETTER SERVE THEM IN A WAY THAT IT'S NOT DOING AT THIS TIME. A LOT OF THAT IS A FUNCTION OF MONEY. SO I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT OR TRY TO GET SOME KIND OF FEEL FOR WHAT THE SUGGESTIONS MIGHT BE AND PUT THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE FUNDING LEVEL WE HAVE. JUST WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER TO HELP SUPPORT THE LOCAL MUSIC SCENE WITH THE FUNDING LEVELS THAT WE HAVE. IF YOU COULD INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY. KIND OF A SUMMARY, TO BE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO DO A THREE-MONTH HOLDOVER CONTRACT, ABOUT 56,000, AND WE'LL WORK OUT THE PRO RATA SHARE OF THAT EACH MONTH. DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO BRING THIS CONTRACT UP TO DATE, REVISIT THE PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENTS, AND BRING BACK TO COUNCIL A CONTRACT THAT REFLECTS MORE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING NOW AND WHAT WE CAN EXPECT IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE. AND AS PART OF THAT WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE OUR EXISTING RESOURCES AND THE BENEFITS. AM I GETTING YOUR PART OF IT CORRECT, BETTY?

DUCK DUNK YES, TRYING TO TO AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. I'M GETTING E-MAILS SAYING THE NETWORK IS NOT VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE LOCAL MUSICIANS. WELL, I'M NOT SURE WHAT EXACTLY THAT MEANS. I'D LIKE TO GET THAT CLEARER AND THEN WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE CONTEXT OF THE FUNDING TO IMMEDIATE MOOET THAT NEED. THERE MAY BE SOMETHING WE CAN DO AND THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE UNABLE TO DO. BUT I'M JUST NOT REAL CLEAR WHAT SOME OF THOSE EXPECTATIONS MIGHT BE IN THE CONTEXT OF THE FUNDING LEVELS THAT WE HAVE. AND.

AND MAYBE WORK DOES IT WORK WEDNESDAY THAT INTO THE REWORKING OF THE PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENTS BECAUSE IT'S THE SATISFACTION OF THE VIEWERS AS WELL AS THE MUSICIANS IN TOWN.

Goodman: I KNOW SOME OF THAT WAS AN EXPECTATION FROM LOCAL MUSIC VENUES AT LIVE TAPING OR EVEN TAPED AND REPLAYED, PERFORMANCE COULD HAPPEN AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE YOU HAVE THE EQUIPMENT AND THE HOOKUP TO BE ABLE TO GO DO IT. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, OBVIOUSLY THOSE PERFORMANCE VENUES WILL NOT BE ON THE AIR SINCE THERE'S NO WAY TO DO IT.

Wynn: MAYOR?

Mayor Garcia: THE AMOUNT WOULD THEN BE 168,000, ABOUT 56,000 PER MONTH. COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

Wynn: I DID HAVE ONE TECHNICAL QUESTION I MEANT TO ASK EARLIER. I LOGGED ON TO THE AUSTIN MUSIC NETWORK WEBSITE, AMN.ORG, AND I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THERE WAS SOME REVENUE GENERATION TRYING TO HAPPEN. I GUESS THEY HAD PRESSED AND ARE SELLING IN DVD'S OF AUSTIN MUSIC VIDEOS. BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, IT SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF ALL PROCEEDS GO TO THE HEALTH CLINIC OR THE AUSTIN MUSICIANS HEALTH CLINIC. AND IT SORT OF STRUCK ME, YOU KNOW, WHY -- ONE, I GUESS, WHOSE MONEY WAS USED TO PRESS THAT DVD. AND WHY WERE THE PROCEEDS OF -- WHY WOULD THE PROCEEDS OF THAT GO TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE MUSIC NETWORK OR TO PAY BACK TAXPAYERS? AND WHAT IS THIS ENTITY THAT'S GETTING THE FUNDS OFF OF THAT DVD SALES?

COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE FUNDING SOURCE WAS TO MAKE THOSE DVD'S, BUT I WOULD FIND OUT. IF IT WAS CITY DOLLARS WERE USED, WE WOULD ASSUME THAT ANY REVENUES GENERATED FROM THE SALE OF THOSE WOULD GO BACK TO FUND THE MUSIC NETWORK OPERATION.

Wynn: I WOULD ASSUME THAT TOO.

I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT.

Futrell:: I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE HAD SOME GOOD NEWS TODAY ON THE AUSTIN MUSIC NETWORK, WHICH IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE A POTENTIAL FOR A SAN ANTONIO CONNECTION NOW FOR THE AUSTIN MUSIC NETWORK, I BELIEVE THROUGH GRANDE, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF VIEWER SHIP AND EXPOSURE FOR THE CHANNEL.

Mayor Garcia: AND ONE OTHER THING THAT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT DURING THE THREE-MONTH PERIOD IS THE THING THAT COUNCILMEMBER WYNN BROUGHT UP, AND THAT IS WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WANTED THEM TO CONSIDER OTHER FUNDING OPTIONS, OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. AND WE CAN LOOK AT THAT TO SEE WHAT EFFORTS, AND THIS THING COULD BE ONE OF THEM. AND THE IDEA OF WHEN WE FUNDED BACK WHEN WAS THAT AT SOME POINT IT WOULD BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION OR NOT. DO YOU KNOW HOW BIG THE BUDGE IS, THEIR BUDGET?

$675,000.

> Mayor Garcia: SO THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING OTHER THAN THE CITY FUNDING?

THEY GENERATE A VERY SMALL AMOUNT FROM SPONSORSHIPS AT THIS POINT. THEIR GOAL IS TO BE REAL AGGRESSIVE AS FAR AS FUND-RAISING. THEY HAVE STAFF THAT THEY RECENTLY HIRED AND THEY FEEL THAT ONCE THEY I AM -- THEY'RE GETTING SOME ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT FROM ANOTHER SOURCE, BUT THEY FEEL LIKE THE QUALITY OF THE PROGRAMMING AND THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS THAT THEY'LL HAVE A MORE MARKETABLE PRODUCT TO HELP THEM WITH FUND-RAISING EFFORTS.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. WELL, THAT WOULD BE A BETTER INDICATING OF COMMUNITY ACCEPTANCE BECAUSE SENDING A TELEVISION REPORTER TO THE STREETS TO ASK PEOPLE WHETHER THEY WATCH THE MUSIC NETWORK IS REALLY NOT A GOOD INDICATOR FOR ME AS TO WHETHER PEOPLE WATCH THE CHANNEL OR NOT. I THINK A BETTER INDICATOR IS THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE AN INTEREST IN HAVING CUSTOMERS WATCH THE MUSIC CHANNEL WOULD BE PUTTING THEIR DOLLARS DOWN SO THAT WE CAN IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE TRANSMISSIONS.

PERHAPS WE COULD INCORPORATE A QUESTION IN OUR ANNUAL CUSTOMER SATISFACTION SURVEY AS FAR AS THE VIEWER SHIP OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC NETWORK, IF THAT WOULD HELP GIVE YOU A GAUGE ON THE VIEWER SHIP OR THE INTEREST.

Goodman: LET ME ADD TO THAT, MAYOR, IF I COULD. IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A SURVEY TOOL, THEN WE NEED TO BE SURVEYING THE LIKELY MARKET, WHICH IS NOT YOUR RANDOM PERSON IN THE STREET. IT WOULD BE -- [INAUDIBLE - NO MIC]

SO INSTEAD OF SENDING A REPORTER TO THE STREET TO ASK PEOPLE, I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE DONE MORE LIKE THE OTHER SURVEYS ARE DONE.

Goodman: SO THE AUDIENCE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY FREQUENT THE MUSIC VENUES OR THE VISITORS, TOURISTS WHO HAVE ACCESSIBILITY TO THAT CHANNEL AND SEE IF THAT LAYS IN THEIR CHOICES, AND THOSE WHO ACTUALLY OFFER THE MUSIC VENUES.

Mayor Garcia: AND THIS IS NOT NEGATIVE AGAINST TELEVISION REPORTERS, BUT YOU STOP SOMEBODY ON THE STREETS AND THEY MIGHT BE GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE, YOU ASK THEM WHAT ABOUT THE MUSIC CHANNEL? THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S THE PERSON THAT I GOT WHEN I WATCHED AND HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE RESPOND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE MUSIC CHANNEL. THEY COULD HAVE BEEN FROM CLEVELAND AND THEY WERE HERE FOR THE WEEKEND. I DON'T KNOW.

Futrell:: MAYOR PRO TEM, ONE OF THE FLAWS OVERALL IN OUR CUSTOMER SATISFACTION AND PRIORITY SURVEY IS WE HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT A WAY TO SURVEY IN A STATISTIC IN THE CORRECT FASHION, BUT GET THE CUSTOMERS OF THE SERVICE. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THAT FOR ALL OF OUR SERVICES. SO THE SURVEYS ARE BEING REDESIGNED RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO CAPTURE THE LIKELY BASE, THE LIKELY CUSTOMER BASE. IT WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMEMBER WYNN HAD BROUGHT UP A YEAR AGO IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSION. YOU MAY ASK THE QUESTION, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT E.M.S. SERVICES, AND THE 500 PEOPLE THAT WERE RANDOMLY ASKED, MAY NOT ACCESS E.M.S. SERVICES. SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO TARGET OUR SURVEY TO THE LIKELY CUSTOMER BASE. AND IF THIS IS ONE OF THE FORMS THAT'S CHOSEN AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'LL WORK ON THAT.

Goodman: THERE'S ONE OTHER CONTEXT. I ASSUMED STAFF AND MUSIC COMMISSION WILL BE DOING THE BULK OF THIS REVIEW AND NOT COUNCIL, SO WHILE IT'S OUT THERE LET ME ASK THAT ONE MORE THING BE A PART OF THE EVALUATING AND REVIEWING AND RECOMMENDING ANYTHING FOR THE FUTURE. AND THAT IS IN LIGHT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE THAT COUNCILMEMBER WYNN AND COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLEY ARE EMBARKING ON, AND THAT I HOPE THE REST OF US WILL BE PART OF IN THAT CREATIVE ARTS AND INDUSTRY, IS A COMPONENT OF THE INCENTIVES AND EXPECTATIONS THAT WILL WILL BE A PART OF THAT. THAT WE ALSO INCORPORATE THE FINDINGS OF THE MUSIC STUDY FROM BACK AWHILE, THE INFUSION INTO OUR OWN ECONOMIC BASE, THE DIVERSITY AND TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN QUANTIFY OR QUALIFY QUALITY OF LIFE AND INDIVIDUAL IDENTITY ISSUES THAT MAKE AUSTIN A DESTINATION AND THE SUBSEQUENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WE CAN COUNT ON FROM REVENUES FROM VISITORS. AND ALSO, MAYBE WE CAN KIND OF QUANTIFY THE AMOUNT THAT THIS ACTUALLY PLAYS IN INCENTIVES. AND I KNOW I HAVEN'T ARTICULATED THAT VERY WELL, BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUES OR SOME INITIATIVE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO CHANNEL THE GROWTH OR THE ENCOURAGEMENT THAT WILL ENHANCE OUR ECONOMIC BAIT, SUCH AS DOWNTOWN AND SMART GROWTH AND SMART HOUSING AND ALL OF THAT, THE MATRIX, THAT HAS LED TO A MUCH BETTER AND SOLID ECONOMIC BASE FOR DOWNTOWN THAN BEFORE THAT INITIATIVE HAPPENED. I'D LIKE TO KNOW IN THE RELATIVITY IF WE COULD DO A SPREADSHEET -- THIS MAY BE TOO HARD. BUT WE OFFER INCENTIVES FOR MANY, MANY POSITIVE THINGS TO HAPPEN. THE ONLY THING WE DO FOR MUSIC BASICALLY IS HAVE A MUSIC COMMISSION AND THE MUSIC NETWORK. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. SO THE SMALL PART, THE THIRD OF THIS BUDGET THAT WE GET FROM GENERAL FUND IS PRETTY SMALL POTATOES COMPARED WITH SOME OF THE INCENTIVES THAT WE TRY TO PUT TOGETHER WITH OTHER COMPONENTS OR ECONOMIC BASE. SO I'D LIKE TO GET A FEEL FOR THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT OF THAT INCENTIVE AND HOW THAT PLAYS INTO WHAT WE OFFER AND THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT WE GET FROM OTHER INCENTIVE INITIATIVES. AND THE REASON THAT I'M SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE INITIATIVE THAT THE COUNCILMEMBERS ARE INVOLVED IN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR NURTURING THE DIVERSITY THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE FOR STABILITY, KEEPING OUR SENSE OF PLACE AT THE SAME TIME, AND ALSO JUST GETTING A GOOD HANDLE ON -- WHAT THE ACTUAL RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS FOR THAT AND ANY OTHER INCENTIVIZING, IF THAT'S A WORD. IS THAT POSSIBLE? OR AM I GOING PAST WHAT YOU CAN DO?

I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO LOOK INTO THAT. I BELIEVE ONE OF YOUR STATEMENTS WAS THAT IT MAY BE A BIG SPREADSHEET AND DIFFICULT TO DO. AND I THINK ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES WILL BE IN QUANTIFYING THE BENEFITS OF THE MUSIC NETWORK SINCE WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE VIEWERSHIP IS AND HOW THAT MAY HELP ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY BRAINSTORM ABOUT WAYS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF WE CAN COME UP WITH ANYTHING. DID.

OOD AND THE OTHERTHING --

Goodman: AND THE OTHER THING, COUNCILMEMBER WYNN MENTIONED THE DVD'S, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT WITH WE ASKED THE NETWORK, I'M SURE THEY COULD HAVE TOLD THAT. AND TWO OF THE PROJECTS THE MUSIC COMMISSION HAS TAKEN ON OVER TIME IS TO TRY TO PUBLICIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE WORK OF PEOPLE AT THE SIMMS FOUNDATION, WHICH IS THE FOUNDATION FOR MUSICIANS WHO ARE THE VERY POOREST OF US AND DON'T HAVE ACCESSIBILITY OR DON'T KNOW ABOUT PROGRAMS TO TRY TO ACCESS HEALTH & HUMAN SERVICES WHEN THEY CERTAINLY NEED IT. THE SAME WITH THE DOUG SAHM CLINIC FOR THE NEEDS OF FOLKS WHO ARE A VERY DEFINED PART OF OUR POPULATION AND MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THINGS THAT WE TRY TO PROVIDE FOR THEM IN THE SAME WAYS WE DO ANY OTHER MEDIA PERSON WHO DOESN'T HAVE THE TRADITIONAL AND TYPICAL JOB SECURITY AND BENEFITS TO LOOK AT. SO I'M SURE THAT COUNCILMEMBER WYNN WILL HAVE AN ANSWER VERY QUICKLY, IF NOT ALREADY.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. FURTHER DISCUSSION?

Thomas: YES, MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND. I ALSO RECEIVED SOME E-MAILS TOO ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. IF I COULD JUST GET A BREAKDOWN ON THE BUDGET, ON WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING ON THE SPECIFIC CONTRACT. THANK YOU.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM. THIS IS FOR 168,000 FOR A THREE-MONTH PERIOD, AN EXTENSION. OKAY. THE MAYOR PRO TEM MOVES. SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER. DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

Mayor Garcia: OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO. COUNCILMEMBER WYNN SAID TO RECORD HIM AS VOTING IN FAVOR OF. OKAY. SHOW IT 6-0-1 WITH COUNCILMEMBER WYNN OFF THE DIAS. THE CITY ATTORNEY TELLS ME THAT EVEN THOUGH HE LEFT INSTRUCTIONS THAT THAT DOESN'T FLY. ITEM NUMBER 59, APPROVE A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO REVIEW RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION RELATED TO THE DOWNTOWN TRANSPORTATION PROJECT. THIS IS SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS, DO YOU WANT A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THIS?

Thomas: I GUESS SO TO GET IT CLEARED UP.

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER PULLED IT.

Thomas: THAT WOULD BE FINE.

AUSTAN LIBRACH IS ON HIS WAY UP. AND I THINK THE QUESTIONS ARE REALLY CENTERING AROUND HOW ARE BIKE LANES AND ACCESS COVERED IN THE CURRENT STAFF PROPOSAL AND HOW DOES THIS PLAY INTO THAT. AND HERE COMES AUSTAN AND WE'LL LET HIM EXPLAIN THAT FOR US. AUSTAN, YOU'RE GOING TO BE UP. I THINK JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW NORTH-SOUTH BIKE ACCESS IS OR ISN'T ADDRESSED AND RELATE IT TO THE ITEM WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, TALKING ABOUT THE TWO STREETS IN QUESTION.

OKAY. MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM, COUNCILMEMBERS, THE NORTH- SOUTH BIKE VENUES IN THE DAMP WERE NOT DIRECTLY CONSIDERED SINCE WE DO HAVE A BIKE PLAN THAT CALLS FOR BIKE LANES ON A NUMBER OF STREETS IN DOWNTOWN. WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT DEPENDING ON WHERE COUNCIL DECIDED TO GO WITH RESPECT TO TWO-WAY STREETS REGARDING TRINITY AND SAN JACINTO THAT BIKE LANES ON THOSE TWO STREETS WOULD BE CERTAINLY VIABLE AND ARE IN THE PLAN. AND IF THAT WAS PART OF THE PROPOSAL FROM COUNCIL THAT WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD FIRST WITH BIKE LANES ON THOSE TWO STREETS WITH THE CONSERVATION TO TWO WAY STREETS. THERE'S ALSO DISCUSSION IN THE BIKE PLAN, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, TO HAVE TWO-WAY -- EXCUSE ME, TO HAVE BIKE LANES ON GUADALUPE AND LAVACA. AND WE DID NOT RECOMMEND -- DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE NEAR TERM RECOMMENDATIONS SIMPLY BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO STREETS THAT REPRESENT A PAIR OF ARTERIALS COMING INTO AND OUT OF DOWNTOWN, ALONG WITH A PAIR OF ARTERIALS FIFTH AND SIXTH THAT WE RECOMMENDED LEAVING AS THEY ARE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE BALANCE WITH REGARD TO THE CHANGES TO DOWNTOWN, THAT WE STILL MAINTAINED THE FLOW FOR TRAFFIC AS WELL AS TO PROVIDE FOR SOME IMPROVEMENTS FOR PEDESTRIANS AND FOR BICYCLISTS. SO WE HAVE A SITUATION ON GUADALUPE AND LAVACA WHERE IF YOU WERE TO PUT IN BIKE LINES NOW YOU WOULD BE TAKING OUT EITHER A LANE OF TRAFFIC OR THE PARKING ON GUADALUPE AND LAVACA. AND WE FELT WITH ALL THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAD ON THE TABLE, WE DID NOT FEEL IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AT THIS TIME.

Futrell:: SORT OF SHORT AND SWEET, YOU WERE FOCUSING ON TWO-WAY STREETS DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THE DISCUSSION ON DAMP AS THE WAY TO DO EAST-WEST AND NORTH-SOUTH BIKE LANES.

THAT'S CORRECT.

Mayor Garcia: THIS ITEM WAS SPULD BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER, SO LET ME RECOGNIZE HIM AT THIS TIME.

Slusher: THANK YOU, MAYOR. IN THE DAMP STUDY, WHERE IN THE PROCESS, WHAT'S THE TIME LINE ON TRINITY AND SAN JACINTO GOING TWO-WAY?

OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THAT WOULD BE THE FOURTH PAIR OF CONVERSIONS, BUT DEPENDING ON YOUR DISCUSSION AND WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE, IT COULD BE MOVED UP. I THINK, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE ARE SOME REMAINING ISSUES WITH COLORADO AND BRAZOS, WHICH WAS THE BEAR -- NORTH-SOUTH PAIR THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY RECOMMENDED TO DO FIRST, THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT WITH CAPITAL METRO. CAPITAL METRO IS VERY INTERESTED IN MAKING COLORADO AND BRAZOS A CLOCKWISE TWO-WAY PAIR, BUT THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT THOSE ISSUES AND LOOKING AT DEDICATED BUS LANES. SO IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO MOVE FIRST TO TRINITY AND SAN JACINTO.

Slusher: OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT MIGHT COME UP HIGHER THAN FOUR IN THE ORDER, IMPLEMENTATION ORDER IF WE PASS THAT LATER TONIGHT. BUT WHAT ABOUT IN THE MEANTIME FOR THE NORTH-SOUTH BICYCLE TRAFFIC? I SHARE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT ELIMINATING ANOTHER TRAFFIC LANE OR ELIMINATING THE PARKING ON SHRA VAC CA AND GUADALUPE. I DON'T THINK I WANT TO DO THAT, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CYCLISTS MOVING NORTH-SOUTH IN THE MEANTIME?

> I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER AT THIS POINT.

WELL, COLORADO HAS A LOT LESS TRAFFIC THAN GUADALUPE AND LAVACA. WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH THAT FOR BICYCLE ACCESS?

POSSIBLY IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. I THINK -- COLORADO, OF COURSE, SHOULD WE ALSO MOVE FORWARD TO LIGHT RAIL, IS CURRENTLY THE NUMBER ONE CANDIDATE FOR LIGHT RAIL AS WELL. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO FACTOR IN WITH REGARD TO WHERE VARIOUS THINGS SHOULD GO. AND WE DON'T -- WE HAVEN'T CONCLUDED THAT ANALYSIS AT THIS POINT.

Slusher: OKAY. I KNOW ANOTHER GOOD PLACE TO RIDE -- ACTUALLY, IF YOU'RE JUST COMING THROUGH DOWNTOWN IS TO GO THROUGH ON NUECES BECAUSE IT'S FLAT AND THERE'S LESS TRAFFIC. AND IF YOU'RE COMING -- AS YOU COME FROM THE SOUTH. AND IF YOU'RE COMING FROM THE NORTH, RIO GRANDE, A NICE HILL TO GO DOWN, AND LESS TRAFFIC THERE. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT US EMMITTING THE TRAFFIC LANE ON GUADALUPE AND LAVACA, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THE DAMP STUDY, WHICH IS GOING TO CAUSE SOME -- IT'S GOING TO BE SOME CHANGES DEFINITELY IN THE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC FLOW, AND I'M CONCERNED THAT WOULD BE TOO MUCH DISRUPTION RIGHT NOW. SO I DON'T THINK I COULD VOTE FOR THIS AT THIS TIME. WE MIGHT EITHER CALL FOR A VOTE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS OR FOLD IT INTO THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING ABOUT THE OVERALL DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC PLAN.

Mayor Garcia: THIS RESOLUTION MAINLY TALKS ABOUT -- TO RECEIVE RECOMMENDATIONS AND COMMENTS WITHIN 90 DAYS.

Thomas: MAYOR? , BASICALLY THIS IS TRYING TO ARE DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE FEASIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING IT. IT'S NOT SAYING -- THAT CAME FROM OUR URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ALSO -- I KNOW WE DO, LET ME SAY THIS, THAT WE PAY ATTENTION TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND I THINK THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME, STAFF HAS SPENT TIME ON THIS. AND ON THIS FIRST ITEM I DID HAVE OTHER STREETS, SO I REMOVED THAT. BUT GUADALUPE AND LAVACA I -- I UNDERSTAND WHAT AUSTAN IS SAYING, BUT WE'VE STILL HAD ACCIDENTS ON THOSE STREETS WITH BIKES, SO I THINK THE FEASIBILITY AND LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO. THAT'S MY MAIN GOAL. WE CAN ALWAYS LEAVE IT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

Slusher: LET ME TRY SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK WE'VE ALREADY HEARD WHAT THE STAFF THINKS THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD DO ADDITIONALLY IN 90 DAYS. WHAT ABOUT IF WE SAID -- ASKED STAFF TO LOOK AT RECOMMENDING SAFE NORTH-SOUTH ROUTES THROUGH DOWNTOWN FOR BICYCLES? AND I WOULD THINK THEY COULD DO THAT IN LESS THAN 90 DAYS, COULDN'T YOU?

WE'LL CERTAINLY TRY.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY.

Thomas: SO THAT WOULD --

Slusher: I'M NOT SAYING THEY DID A FEASIBILITY STUDY, BUT HE JUST STOOD UP HERE AND SAID HE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS FEASIBLE AND THAT THEY DID LOOK AT THAT AS PART OF THE DAMP AND DIDN'T THINK IT WAS. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO -- THAT WE HAVE A SAFE NORTH-SOUTH ROUTE THROUGH DOWNTOWN. PERSONALLY, IF I RODE MY BIKE THROUGH DOWNTOWN, I WOULD GO DOWN AND GO ON NUECES BECAUSE THERE'S LESS TRAFFIC THERE AND IT'S NICE, SAFE PASSAGE THROUGH DOWNTOWN. SO I WOULD DO THAT. I WOULD SUGGEST OUR STAFF LOOK AT THAT AS A POSSIBILITY, TOO. I HEAR THAT CYCLISTS WANT TO -- DON'T WANT TO GO -- DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN ANOTHER BLOCK, THEY WANT TO STAY ON THE MAIN STREET, BUT I JUST -- I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY VERY SAFE, AND I FRANKLY WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO DOWN A BLOCK BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF CARS IN THIS TOWN THAT NEED TO MOVE THROUGH DOWNTOWN AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR THE PEDESTRIANS, SO WE HAVE GUADALUPE AND LAVACA REALLY FOR THE AUTOMOBILES TO MOVE QUICKLY THROUGH DOWNTOWN. THEY'RE ONE WAY. AND MR. LIBRACH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THE BICYCLES ON THE TWO-WAY STREETS, WHICH IS WHAT WHAT RIO GRANDE AND NUECES ARE TOO, I WOULD POINT OUT. SO ANYWAY, IF YOU MADE THAT -- THERE'S NOT A MOTION ON THE TABLE, IS THERE?

Mayor Garcia: NO, BUT I'LL TAKE ONE.

Slusher: I WOULD MOVE TO LOOK AT SAFE NORTH-SOUTH ROUTES THROUGH DOWNTOWN FOR BICYCLES, COME BACK IN 45 DAYS.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER. IS THERE A SECOND?

Slusher: IT'S DYING OUT THERE. [ LAUGHTER ]

Mayor Garcia: SECONDED BY -- WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER. SAMMY EDEN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR GARCIA AND COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS TOMMY EDEN. I'M ON THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION. I ATTENDED STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN GREAT STREETS MASTER PLAN EVERY MONTH FOR OVER A YEAR. ALMOST EVERY MONTH ONE OF THE BICYCLES OR ANOTHER ONE ON THAT STAKEHOLDER GROUP WOULD POINT OUT AN OBSERVATION THAT THE CITY STAFF WAS PLACING THE NEEDS OF MOTORISTS AS A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN THE SAFETY OF BICYCLES. MAYBE I SHOULD SAY THE CONVENIENCE OF MOTORISTS OVER THE SAFETY OF BICYCLES. I FIND IT VERY DISCONCERTING THAT OUR STAFF CONSIDERS IT MORE IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC THAN TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF BICYCLISTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN EARLIER THIS WEEK A BICYCLIST WAS KILLED ON THE -- ONE OF THE STREETS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET BICYCLE LANES. I FIND THIS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. THE STAFF DOES NOT HAVE AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW. I HOPE YOU HEARD THAT. THE STAFF DOES NOT HAVE AN ANSWER ABOUT WHAT BICYCLIST -- WHAT ROUTE BICYCLISTS SHOULD BE TAKING TO GET NORTH AND SOUTH THROUGH DOWNTOWN. RIGHT NOW, GUADALUPE AND LAVACA HAVE THE HEAVIEST BICYCLE TRAFFIC OF ANY STREET DOWNTOWN. AND OUR STAFF IS FAILING TO PROVIDE SAFE FACILITIES FOR BICYCLISTS TO GET THROUGH ON THE MOST HEAVILY TRAFFICKED STREETS. AND COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ELIMINATION OF EITHER A TRAFFIC LANE OR A FEW PARKING SPACES. I'M SORRY. I DO NOT FIND THIS ACCEPTABLE. A BICYCLIST WAS KILLED. HOW MANY BICYCLISTS HAVE TO BE KILLED BEFORE WE CAN GET BICYCLE LANES ON GUADALUPE AND LAVACA? THANK YOU.

Slusher: MAYOR, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR MR. EDEN. MR. EDEN, I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT BICYCLE SAFETY, THAT'S WHY I JUST INSTRUCTED THE STAFF OR PUT A MOTION FORWARD TO INSTRUCT THE STAFF TO FIND A SAFE NORTH-SOUTH ROUTE THROUGH DOWNTOWN. AND -- BUT WOULDN'T YOU AGREE THAT BICYCLISTS HAVE A CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITY TO TRY TO FIND SAFE ROUTES AND AT LEAST TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SAFE ROUTES THAT THE CITY PROVIDES AND SPENT A FEW MILLION DOLLARS ON?

I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE EVERY STREET IN THE CITY SAFE FOR BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.

Slusher: OKAY. THE REASON I ASK, THE OTHER DAY -- LET ME BACK UP. THE CITY SPENT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH -- IT WAS BEFORE I WAS ON THE COUNCIL -- BUT PUTTING CANTILEVERS ON THE DRAKE BRIDGE, THE FIRST SOUTH STREET BRIDGE SO THAT CIRCLE CISTS AND -- CYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS COULD RIDE AND WALK THERE WITHOUT BEING ON THE TRAFFIC.

Mayor Garcia: NO, THE LAMAR BRIDGE.

Slusher: NO, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE CANTILEVERS, BUT THERE IS A CANTILEVER DOWN FROM IT AND THEY'RE SEPARATED, TOTALLY SAFE FROM THE TRAFFIC. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. TO ME, SINCE THE CITY SPENT THAT MONEY WE HAVE PEOPLE COME DOWN AND ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF PUTTING IN THOSE FACILITIES, I WOULD THINK BICYCLISTS SHOULD USE THEM. THE OTHER DAY I WAS DRIVING IN MY CAR ACROSS THE DRAKE BRIDGE AND MR. EDEN WAS RIDING ON THE BRIDGE, NOT ON THE CANTILEVER. HE WAS RIDING IN THE TRAFFIC. AND I THINK THAT'S TAKING UNNECESSARY RISKS. I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE SAFE IF YOU WOULD RIDE WHERE THE CITY HAS PROVIDED FOR A BICYCLE LANE. IF YOU WANT TO COME DOWN AND TALK ABOUT PUBLIC -- ABOUT MAKING IT SAFE FOR CYCLISTS, THERE'S ONE WHERE THE CITY MADE IT SAFE FOR CYCLISTS, AND THE TRAFFIC CAN MOVE FREELY OVER THE BRIDGE AND INSTEAD YOU'RE OUT RIDING IN THE TRAFFIC. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S VERY RESPONSIBLE IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY.

WOULD YOU LIKE AN EXPLANATION?

Thomas: MAYOR?

Mayor Garcia: DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND, MR. EDEN? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID?

I WOULD LIKE TO, YES.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY.

THE DRAKE BRIDGE HAS PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FACILITIES ON BOTH SIDES, BUT THOSE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FACILITIES END WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF THE BRIDGE, PLACING -- [ BUZZER SOUNDS ] -- PLACING BICYCLISTS IN A VERY HAZARDOUS POSITION IF YOU FOLLOW THE SIDEWALK GOING IN THE NORTH DOWN DIRECTION. THE SAFEWAY FOR BICYCLISTS TO CROSS CESAR CHAVEZ AT SOUTH FIRST STREET IS IN THE MIDDLE LANE OF TRAFFIC, BECAUSE IF YOU GO OVER ON THE SIDEWALK OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND YOU TRY AND CROSS WITH THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL, THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC BOTH TURNING RIGHT AS THE BICYCLIST ATTEMPTS TO GO EITHER ON TO THE SIDEWALK ON LAVACA OR TO REENTER THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC. IT'S ACTUALLY SAFER FOR A BICYCLIST TO USE THE TRAFFIC LANES TO GO STRAIGHT THROUGH WITH THE REST OF THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC THAN TO TRY AND REALLY CROSS TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC THAT ARE BOTH CROSSING IN FRONT OF THE BICYCLISTS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, AND MOST MOTORISTS ARE NOT EXPECTING TO SEE A BICYCLIST THERE.

Slusher: SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU THINK THAT BICYCLISTS SHOULDN'T USE THE PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLE FACILITY THAT'S PROVIDED ON THE DRAKE BRIDGE. THEY SHOULD INSTEAD RIDE IN THE TRAFFIC?

I BELIEVE THAT WHEN THE CITY HAS PROVIDED ADEQUATE FACILITIES FOR BICYCLISTS TO USE THAT THEY SHOULD USE THEM. I DON'T CONSIDER THIS PARTICULAR CANTILEVER AN ADEQUATE FACILITY IN THE PLACE WE'RE IN. AND THAT IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH FIRST STREET AND CESAR CHAVEZ.

Slusher: SO YOU CAN'T JUST GET OVER THERE AND CROSS LIKE A PEDESTRIAN WOULD AND THEN GET INTO THE TRAFFIC ON THE RIGHT LANE?

THAT IS A MORE HAZARDOUS MAFER YIEWFER THAN MAKE -- MANEUVER THAN TAKING THE LANE AND RIDING WITH THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

Slusher: WHAT ABOUT THE PFLUGER BRIDGE? DO YOU USE THAT ONE OR DO YOU RIDE OUT ON THE OLD LAMAR BRIDGE?

THE PFLUGER BRIDGE IS A VERY GOOD FACILITY AS IT'S BEEN BUILT FOR EAST AND WEST BICYCLE TRANSPORTATION. FOR NORTH AND SOUTH TRANSPORTATION I CONSIDER IT UNFINISHED.

Slusher: SO YOU RIDE -- ARE YOU SAYING YOU RIDE OUT IN THE TRAFFIC WHEN YOU CROSS -- OUT IN THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC WHEN YOU CROSS THE DRAKE BRIDGE AND WHEN YOU CROSS THE LAMAR BRIDGE? YOU DON'T THINK EITHER ONE OF THEM IS ADEQUATE, THE CITY HASN'T SPENT ENOUGH MONEY YET TO MAKE IT WHERE YOU CAN USE EITHER ONE OF THOSE FACILITIES FOR NORTH-SOUTH?

THE NEW PFLUGER BRIDGE BRINGS BICYCLISTS UP TO THE NORTH BANK OF TOWN LAKE. AT THAT POINT A BICYCLIST GOING NORTH AND SOUTH HAS TO FOLLOW THE SPIRAL DOWN TO THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL AND THEN CROSS AS A PEDESTRIAN TO CROSS CESAR CHAVEZ TO GET UP ON TO --

> Slusher: YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

FOR NORTH AND SOUTH USE I USE THE OLD HISTORIC LAMAR BRIDGE. IF I'M GOING EAST AND WEST I USE THE BEAUTIFUL NEW PFLUGER BRIDGE, WHICH IS A FANTASTIC FACILITY FOR THOSE GOING EAST AND WEST.

Slusher: OKAY. I THINK WE'VE TAKEN UP ENOUGH TIME, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

Thomas: MAYOR? ON COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER'S MOTION TO AMEND THE ITEM, WAS IT STILL INCLUDING THE BIKE LANES ON GUADALUPE AND LAVACA?

> Slusher: IF STAFF CAN LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S FINE. I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY SAID WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT OUT OF THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF ELIMINATING A LANE FOR CARS ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE STREETS BECAUSE I THINK THOSE -- THAT'S WHERE WE SET ASIDE FOR THE CARS TO -- WHEN THEY'RE COMING THROUGH DOWNTOWN TO BE AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE OTHER ONES MORE AMENABLE PEDESTRIANS AND PSYCHISTS. THAT'S WHAT -- CYCLISTS. THAT'S WHAT THE DAMP STUDY IS ALL ABOUT.

Thomas: I'D BE WILLING TO SECOND IT IF WE CAN JUST ADD WHAT YOU WANTED TO ADD, BUT KEEP THE WORDING IN THERE.

Slusher: YEAH. I WAS GOING TO ADD THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT SINCE I MADE THE MOTION. IT'S FINE TO DO IT LIKE THAT. BUT MAYOR, I WOULD -- I KNOW MR. EDEN IS A VERY FREQUENT CYCLIST, BUT I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE FOLKS IF YOU'RE RIDING A BICYCLE TO TAKE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND GO ON THE SAFER STREETS. I THINK WE WOULD HAVE LESS ACCIDENTS. I ALSO ENCOURAGE MOTORISTS TO BE MORE AWARE OF THE BICYCLES. I THINK WE NEED TO USE A LITTLE COMMON SENSE HERE, AND I STILL THINK THAT NUECES AND RIO GRANDE ARE SAFER. I THINK IT'S SAFER TO RIDE ON A BRIDGE THAT'S PROVIDED FOR BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS RATHER THAN IT IS TO RIDE IN THE TRAFFIC. AND I THINK THE PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY LESS LIKELY -- PEOPLE IN THEIR CARS ARE LESS LIKELY EVEN TO BE EXPECTING TO SEE CYCLISTS WHEN A BRIDGE HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR THEM TO RIDE SEPARATELY. WE CREDIT SIZE -- I'VE HEARD, ANYWAY, OF PEOPLE THAT WANT MORE ROADS CRITICIZE FOR SAYING WELL, THE MOTORISTS, THEY JUST WANT TO GET THERE A FEW MINUTES EARLY AND WE'VE GOT TO SPEND MILLION OF DOLLARS SO A FEW PEOPLE CAN GET SOMEWHERE A FEW MINUTES EARLY. WELL, I THINK SOMETIMES THAT'S A VALID CREDIT CRITICISM, BUT I WOULD ASK CYCLISTS IF THEY THINK THE SAME THING. TAKE A FEW MINUTES LONGER, GO ON THE SAFER STREETS AND DRIVE MORE SAFELY. [ONE MOMENT, PLEASE, FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS]

Goodman: ... NOT AS A COMPONENT OF THE MULTI MODAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN. I WOULD HOPE FROM HERE ON OUT THAT WE ACTUALLY DO LOOK AT FACILITIES FOR BIKE USE AND MORE OF THEM THE AS -- MORE IN THE AESTHETIC SENSE. I THINK THE PFLUGER BRIDGE IS GRAND AND GLORIOUS, BUT TOM MOW IS RIGHT, AS -- TOMMY IS RIGHT, AS A TRAVEL ROUTE, IT'S NOT VERY EFFECTIVE, NEITHER IS THE DRAKE IN THAT THERE ARE STILL TIME CONSTRAINTS, IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO BICYCLE TO WORK OR TO SOME DESTINATION, WE STILL IN THE MODERN DAY WHERE YOU HAVE APPOINTMENTS OR RESPONSIBILITIES AT A CERTAIN TIME AND A CERTAIN PLACE AND SO THE TRANSPORTATION THAT YOU TAKE HAS TO BE ONE WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU NEED TO DO IT. WHEN YOU HAVE TIME FOR MORE LEISURELY BIKE RIDING, THE WAY THE BRIMS ARE RIGHT NOW WORK FINE. BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND KEEP ON HEADING NORTH QUICKLY, RELATIVELY QUICKLY, BEING ON A BIKE, WE STILL DO NEED TO BE ABLE TO CROSS THAT STREET. YOU DON'T HAVE THE LEISURE TO GO WANDERING AROUND THE BIKE LANES ALONG THE RIVER. GREAT WHEN YOU HAVE TIME, BUT NOT WHEN YOU ARE ACTUALLY USING IT AS A TRAVEL ROUTE. AND YOU HAVE A JOB OR DESTINATION AND TIME AT THE END. WE THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE DESIGN TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND ROADWAYS FOR CARS. AND WE NEED TO ACTUALLY IT GREAT THAT SORT OF THING INTO DESIGNING OUR BIKE ROUTES AND LANES AT THE SAME TIME. THANKS, MAYOR, THAT WAS MY TWO CENTS.

Mayor Garcia: DO YOUD IN THE MOTION, MS. BROWN? MARES

Alvarez:, I HAVE A VERSION OF THE RESOLUTION --

Mayor Garcia: THAT'S BEEN AMENDED. MS. BROWN, IF YOU COULD -- IF YOU COULD READ INTO THE RECORD HOW THE AMENDED RESOLUTION READS.

Clerk Brown: I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME. WHAT I UNDERSTOOD WE WERE AMENDING IS TO ASK THE STAFF TO LOOK AT THE NORTH-SOUTH ROUTES FOR SAFETY AND TO BRING BACK THE REPORT IN 45 DAYS, THAT THAT IS IN ADDITION TO WHAT --

Slusher: BUT THE -- MAYOR, THE COPY -- THE COPY COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ HAS -- STILL HAS THE FOUR ITEMS, I THINK THREE OF THOSE WERE TAKEN OFF. IT WOULD BE -- EVERYTHING WAS TAKEN OFF EXCEPT --

Alvarez: TWO.

Slusher: THAT'S CORRECT, EXCEPT NUMBER 2. 1, 3, AND 4 ON THIS COPY WERE ELIMINATED.

Thomas: SHE HAS A COPY.

Clerk Brown: THE ONE I HAVE HAS ONE ITEM ON IT, BIKE LANES ON GUADALUPE AND LAVACA STREETS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT WE ARE AMENDING THAT NOW TO ADD NORTH-SOUTH STREETS FOR SAFETY AND THAT IT WOULD BE BACK IN 45 DAYS INSTEAD OF AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

Alvarez: MAYOR, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO THE ANALYSIS OF WHAT IT WOULD DO, WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO PUT THOSE BIKE LINE LANES IN PLACE OF WHAT THE INTENT WAS. WHAT WOULD IT TAKE, WHAT WOULD IT COST, ARE YOU GOING TO AFFECT THE LANES, HOW IS IT GOING TO AFFECT PARKING, WHAT WILL IT COST? THEN I THINK THAT'S ONE ASPECT. THE OTHER ASPECT WE LOOK AT HOW IT AFFECTS THE TRANSPORTATION, TRAFFIC FLOW, BUT -- BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS IN THERE BECAUSE I THINK ORIGINALLY THAT WAS WHAT WAS INTENDED BECAUSE THIS IS A PROPOSAL THAT IS IN THE BIKE PLAN AND TO A CERTAIN DEGREE I WOULD LIKE TO COMPARE, YOU KNOW, OUR ABILITY TO DO THAT TO THE OPTION OF -- OF THE TWO-WAY STREETS ON SAN JACINTOS AND WHAT OTHER STREET WAS THAT THAT YOU MENTIONED?

TRINITY.

AND TRINITY. IF THOSE ARE THE FOURTH LEG OF THE IMPLEMENTATION, THAT COULD BE 8 OR 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. BUT IF WE CAN DO AN ANALYSIS THAT SHOWS THIS IS CHEAPER AND DOESN'T AFFECT THE TRAFFIC FLOWS, MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE QUICKER, I REALLY THINK THAT IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT THAT INFORMATION AND SEEING HOW IT RELATES TO WHAT -- WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING IN TERMS OF THE DAMP PROPOSAL.

MAYOR, I'VE BEEN REQUESTED TO RIDE THE -- TO READ THE RESOLUTION.

BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS DIRECTED TO CONSIDER THE FEASIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATION FROM THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, BIKE LANES ON GUADALUPE AND LAVACA STREETS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT COMMENTS FROM COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, SUCH AS THE GREATER AUSTIN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE, AND THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL OF AUSTIN, SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE REVIEW OF THE PROPOSAL, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT RECOMMENDATIONS AND COMMENTS ARE TO BE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THIS RESOLUTION. MID INNING IS WE ARE CHANGING THAT LAST PART THAT -- WITHIN 90 DAYS TO 45 DAYS?

Mayor Garcia: WELL, ALSO, NORTH-SOUTH. COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER?

Clerk Brown: RIGHT, WE ARE ADDING THE NORTH-SOUTH?

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE AMENDMENTS TO HIS OWN MOTION. SO --

Slusher: I'M SORRY, MAYOR, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?

Mayor Garcia: SHE READ INTO THE RECORD THE ONE THAT -- THAT SAYS, THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND COMMENTS ARE TO BE PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE NORTH-SOUTH.

Slusher: THAT'S THE AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT THAT I MADE TO IT WAS THAT THE -- THAT THE MANAGERS STUDY THE -- THE SAFE NORTH-SOUTH BICYCLE ROUTES THROUGH DOWNTOWN AND REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITHIN 45 DAYS AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS ASKED IF THAT WOULD STAY ON AS PART OF IT, THE ORIGINAL PART OF THE MOTION THAT HE HAD. COULD THAT STAY ON AS PART OF IT, I SAID YES THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. GOT IT, MS. BROWN?

Clerk Brown: YES.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? IF NOT, ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED, NO. MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF 7 TO 0.

Thomas: MAYOR, IF I COULD ASK ONE CLARIFICATION. NOT ON THIS ITEM, BUT 41, WHEN I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE -- CITY MANAGER -- I WAS ASKING ABOUT A REPORT ON THE BUDGET. EXCUSE ME. TALKING ABOUT THE OVERALL BUDGET, NOT JUST WHAT WE JUST AMENDED 56,000. BUT ON 41, WE JUST GOT OFF OF.

YES.

Thomas: WAS THAT UNDERSTOOD?

Futrell:: YES, I INTEND TO GIVE YOU A BREAKDOWN OF THE FULL BUDGET.

Thomas: FUGHT BUDGET, THANK YOU. -- FULL BUDGET, THANK YOU.

Futrell:: SURE.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. IT'S 3 -- IT'S 3:35, 3:36 -- 3:00 -- ACTUALLY 3:40. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A 20 MINUTE RECESS, WE WILL BE BACK FOR THE 4:00 TIME CERTAIN. COUNCIL IS IN RECESS.

THERE BEING A QUORUM IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, I'M GOING TO CALL BACK TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL OF THURSDAY, DECEMBER THE 5th. WE ARE IN THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY HANCOCK BUILDING, 3700 LAKE AUSTIN, BOULEVARD, AUSTIN, TEXAS. I CALL UP FOR CONSIDERATION, THE 4:00 TIME CERTAIN ZONING HEARINGS AND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCES AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS.

Glasgo: GOOD AFTERNOON, ALICE GLASGO, OUR ZONING CASES FOR TODAY ARE AS FOLLOWS: ITEM NO. Z-1, CASE C 14-86-25, THIS IS A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AMENDMENT. STAFF IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT TO -- TO DECEMBER THE 12th SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS SOME ASPECTS OF THE COVENANT. ITEM NO. Z-2, C 814-88-0001, ALSO A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AMENDMENT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2800 WAYMAKER WAY. THE ZONING AND PLATTING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AMENDMENT WITH CONDITIONS. THIS IS READY FOR YOUR APPROVAL. ITEM NO. Z-3, C14-01-183, LOCATED AT 2031 STATE HIGHWAY 71 EAST, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A CHANGE FROM INTERIM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO CS-CO, WHICH STANDS FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL SERVICES WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR TRACT 1 AND GR-CO, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL SERVICES, WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ZONING FOR TRACT 2. THE ZONING AND PLATTING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT CS-CO GENERAL COMMERCIAL SERVICES CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ZONING FOR TRACT 1 AND GR-CO, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL SERVICES, CONDITIONAL OVERLAY COMBINING DISTRICT FOR TRACT 2. THIS CASE IS READY FOR FIRST READING ONLY. ITEM NO. Z-4, C14-02-102 LOCATED AT 3305 AND 3415 WEST SLAUGHTER LANE, STAFF IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT TO JANUARY THE 9th, 2003 BECAUSE THE APPLICANT YESTERDAY AMENDED THE APPLICATION FOR THIS PROPERTY, WHICH NECESSITATES US TO RECALCULATE THE PETITION THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED DUE TO THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE APPLICATION. THAT'S WHY WE ARE REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT. ITEM NO. Z-5, C 14 H-02-20 LOCATED AT 1200 ENFIELD ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS 1500 WINDSOR ROAD. CURRENTLY ZONED F.M. 3, THE FLICT -- MULTI-FAMILY 3, THEY ARE SEEKING A CHANGE OF HISTORIC ZONING TO THE PROPERTY. THAT DESIGNATION HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY BOTH THE ZONING AND PLATTING COMMISSION AND HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION TO ZONE THE PROPERTY TO MULTI-FAMILY 3 HISTORIC. THIS CASE IS READY FOR ALL THREE READINGS. ITEM NO. Z-6, C14-02-111, LOCATED AT 1200 BLOCK OF WEST HOWARD LANE, THE CHANGE IN ZONING IS FROM GR-CO, COMMERCIAL -- COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR TRACT 1, AND CS-CO, GENERAL COMMERCIAL SERVICES WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ZONING FOR TRACT 2. TO GR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL FOR TRACT 1 AND CS FOR TRACT 2. THE CHANGE IN ZONING IS TO ALLOW CHANGES AND CONDITIONS OF THE PREVIOUS ZONING TO LINE UP WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE OCCUR IN THE -- OCCURRING IN THE AREA. THE REQUEST THAT THE PLIGHT HAS PUT FORT IS RECOMMENDING THE ZONING AND PLATTING COMMISSION FOR TRACT 1 TO GR-CO AND CSCO TO TRACT 2. THIS CASE IS READY FOR ALL THREE READINGS. Z-7, C14-02-118, LOCATED AT 9101 BRODIE LANE, CHANGE FROM LO-CO WHICH STANDS FOR LIMITED OFFICE WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY TO GR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE ZONING ZONINGS RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT GR-CO, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, THIS CASE IS READY FOR ALL THREE READINGS. Z-8, C14-02-122, AN TON EQUIPMENT, LOCATED AT 829 BASTROP HIGHWAY, THE CHANGE IN ZONING IS FROM INTERIM RR TO I.P. STAFF IS REQUESTING AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT ON THIS CASE AND THE INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT WOULD REALLY TAKE THIS CASE TO ABOUT JUNE OF NEXT YEAR, ABOUT SIX MONTHS. THE REASON FOR IT, WE JUST FOUND OUT TODAY FROM THE WATERSHED PROTECTION THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING ENGINEERING STUDIES FOR THE CARSON CREEK WATERSHED AND THEY -- THEIR PRELIMINARY INFORMATION SHOWS THAT THE AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY WITHIN THE 25 AND 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN. WHICH REALLY CHANGES OR MIGHT CHANGE WHAT ZONING OUGHT TO BE RECOMMENDED HERE ONCE THEY CONCLUDE THE STUDY. THEY ANTICIPATE TO CONCLUDE THE STUDY IN JUNE OF 2003. THAT'S WHY WE ARE RECOMMENDING AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT TO ALLOW STAFF TO -- THE ENGINEERS TO CONCLUDE THAT STUDY SO WE CAN FIND OUT PRECISELY WHERE THE FLOODPLAIN LIES.

ON ITEM NO. 7, MS. GLASGO, WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION?

Glasgo: Z-7 TO GRANT THE ZONING CHANGE TO GR-CO ON ALL THREE READINGS.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. THIS ONE IS CONSENT FOR POSTPONEMENT INDEFINITE?

WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT POSTPONED, BUT PAUL LINEHAN IS SHAKING HIS HEAD.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT THE TIME THAT WE CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA.

Glasgo: ITEM NO. Z-9 IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM. Z-10, C14-02-151 LOCATED AT 300 WILL WEST SLAUGHTER LANE. THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM LR-CO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CONDITIONAL OVERLAY TO GR, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING. THE ZONING ZONINGS RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT GR-CO, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL CONDITIONAL OVERLAY WITH CONDITIONS AND THIS CASE IS READY FOR FIRST READING ONLY. Z-11, C14-02-158, LOCATED AT 13292 POND SPRINGS ROAD, THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM INTERIM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO GR-CO, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. THE ZONING AND PLATTING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT GR-CO, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ZONING AND THE CASE IS READY FOR ALL THREE READINGS. ITEM NO. Z-12, C14-02-159, LOCATED AT 13284 POND SPRINGS ROAD, CHANGE IN ZONING FROM INTERIM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO GR-CO, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING. THE ZONING AND PLATTING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT GR-CO WHICH STAND FOR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ZONING ON THREE READINGS. ON ITEM NO. Z-13, CASE C14-02-165, THIS CASE IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE AREA THAT WATERSHED PROTECTION IS CONDUCTING A FLOODPLAIN STUDY. WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THIS CASE BE POSTPONED INDEFINITELY. AND MS. DOWD THAT ACCEPTED THAT POSTPONEMENT ISN'T HERE TO DISCUSS IT. THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE CONSENT ITEMS MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, MS. GLASGO. LET ME READ THE LISTING. Z-1 IS CONSENT FOR POSTPONEMENT, Z-2 CONSENT ITEM. 3 IS CONSENT FOR FIRST READING. 4 IS CONSENT FOR POSTPONEMENT TO JANUARY THE 9th, '03. ONE IS CONCEPT FOR POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 12 December 12th. 5 IS CONSENT ALL THREE. 6 CONSENT FOR ALL THREE, SEVEN CONSENT FOR ALL THREE. EIGHT IS CONSENT FOR POSTPONEMENT INDEFINITELY. 10 IS CONSENT FIRST READING. 11 CONSENT THREE READINGS. 12 IS CONSENT FOR ALL THREE READINGS. AND 13 IS CONSENT FOR AN INDEFINITE PERIOD. WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT I THINK WHAT I WILL DO IS -- LET'S SEE. DISCUSSION. I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT'S SIGNED UP ON THE CONSENT ON THE DISCUSSION ITEM.

MR. LINEHAN WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, I DON'T THINK HE SIGNED UP. HE'S THE APPLICANT FOR --

Mayor Garcia: YOU SAID 9 WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM? BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP. IS THAT BECAUSE WE --

SARAH CROCKER IS THE AGENT FOR THAT CASE.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY.

Mayor Garcia: MR. LINEHAN, WHICH ITEM IS THE ONE THAT YOU ARE WANTING TO TALK ABOUT?

Z-8. I JUST -- I JUST FOUND OUT THIS MORNING THAT THERE WAS A REQUEST BY STAFF. I'M PAUL LINEHAN MAYOR, I JUST FOUND OUT THIS MORNING FROM STAFF THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT. WE HAVE BEEN BLUE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UNANIMOUS APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE KNEW ABOUT FLOODPLAIN PROBLEMS IN THIS AREA, WE'VE HIRED ESBY ASSOCIATES TO DO A FLOODPLAIN ANALYSIS WITH THE PLANNING OF THE SITE WE ARE ABLE TO PASS THE WATER THROUGH THE SITE TO PREVENT FLOODING AND TRY TO WORK ON REDEFINING CARSON CREEK. WHAT HAPPENED BACK IN 1950, THEY MINED THIS ENTIRE AREA IT NOW SHEET FLOWS IN CHANNELIZATION TO THE CREEK TO PREVENT FLOODING NEEDS TO HAPPEN. WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM. TO HAVE AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT UNTIL THE STUDY IS DONE UNTIL JUNE OF NEXT YEAR, AFTER WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS IS KIND OF NUTS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN STUDYING IT. I'M AGAINST IT. IF YOU WANT TO POSTPONE ME A MONTH TO GET WITH CITY STAFF, WATERSHED PROTECTION TO SHOW THEM OUR PLAN I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.

Mayor Garcia: LET ME ASK MS. GLASGO A QUESTION. POSTPONEMENT INDEFINITE DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO GO UNTIL JUNE. THERE COULD BE SOMETHING IN THE INTERIM THAT WILL ALLOW THIS CASE TO COME BACK, ISN'T IT?

Glasgo: CORRECT, YOU DON'T POSTPONE TO A TIME CERTAIN, WE TYPICALLY DON'T LET IT GO BEYOND SIX MONTHS. BUT IT COULD COME BACK AT ANY TIME. IT JUST MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO RENOTIFY, BUT IT CAN COME BACK.

Mayor Garcia: IS ANYBODY HERE FROM WATERSHED PROTECTION.

YES, JOE GUERRERA IS HERE, IN CHARGE OF ALL OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES. MAYBE HE WITH GIVE US A FEEL FOR WHETHER A MONTH WILL GIVE HIM ENOUGH INFORMATION TO HAVE ENOUGH SUFFICIENT INFORMATION. THE ONLY CONCERN IS THAT IF THE STUDY DETERMINES THAT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS IN THE 25 YEAR FLOODPLAIN, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PROHIBITS ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THE 25 YEAR FLOODPLAIN. IF YOU GO AHEAD AND ZONE THE PROPERTY TO INDUSTRIAL, YOU WOULD HAVE ZONED PROPERTY THAT HAS -- THAT IS -- THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE.

Mayor Garcia: SURE. MR. GUERRERO?

GOOD AFTERNOON, JOSE GUERRERO WITH THE WATERSHED REVIEW DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE A FEMA MAPPED FLOODPLAIN IS OVER A 30-YEAR-OLD STUDY, WE ARE REMAPPING THE ENTIRE CARSON CREEK WATERSHED, PRELIMINARY INDICATIONS THAT THE FLOODPLAIN COULD CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE AREAS AFFECTING THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THE -- TODAY'S AGENDA. SO WE WOULD WELCOME A CHANCE TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANTS, THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEERS TO DISCUSS THE DRAINAGE SITUATION AND THERE BY SHARE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AS WELL.

OKAY.

Mayor Garcia: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. GUERRERO. QUESTIONS FOR MR. GUERRERO? SO IF IN HE IS ACCEPTS YOU AND THE APPLICANT, MR. GUERRERO, CAN RESOLVE THE ISSUE AND YOU ARE SATISFIED THAT -- THAT THE PROPOSAL WILL -- WILL NOT ENDANGER ANYTHING, THEN THIS -- THEN THAT CASE CAN COME BACK; IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

YES, SIR.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY.

IT'S NOT CONTINGENT ON YOU FINISHING THE STUDY.

NOT CON CONTINUING GET AT ALL, NO, SIR.

OKAY.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, QUESTIONS, ANYBODY?

[INAUDIBLE - NO MIC]

Mayor Garcia: I KNOW. I AM GOING TO RECOGNIZE THE SPEAKERS. I HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THE CARDS YET.

Slusher: MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION ON Z-7. MS. GLASGO -- IT SAYS IN THE BACKUP THAT THIS -- THIS TRACT IS SUBJECT TO -- TO S.O.S., BUT I THOUGHT THIS IS THE ONE WHERE THERE'S A SITE THAT'S GRANDFATHERED ON HERE, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT. SO IS THIS ONE, THOUGH, THIS TRACT HAVING A -- HAVING THIS PIECE OF IT SUBJECT TO S.O.S.?

MR. GUERNSEY HAS SOME INFORMATION ON THAT.

Gurnsey: GREG GUERNSEY WITH NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AND ZONING. IT IS IT'S MID INNING IF IT WAS RETAIL IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED A CHANGE IN PROJECT. UNDER CHAPTER 245 OF THE LOAL GOVERNMENT CODE THIS CHANGE IN PROJECT WOULD HAVE IT COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH S.O.S. IF IT WERE TO PURSUE A LAND USE THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL I GUESS OFFICE USE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE PROPERTY -- AND THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED, THAT MAY THEN BE EXEMPT UNDER 245 FROM CURRENT WATERSHED REGULATIONS, BUT A CHANGE IN USE TO RETAIL WOULD HAVE REQUIRED THIS COMPLY WITH S.O.S.

Slusher: LET ME RUN THAT BACK AT YOU, MAKE SURE THAT IED IN IT. BY CHANGING THE ZONING FROM L.O. -- THE OFFICE TO THE RETAIL, THEN THAT PUTS IT UNDER S.O.S. WHERE IT WASN'T BEFORE.

NOT NECESSARILY CHANGING THE ZONING. BUT IF THEY WERE TO GO FORWARD WITH A RETAIL USE, WHICH WEED IN THIS PROJECT IS PROPOSED FOR A GOODWILL, RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT, THAT CHANGE IN PROJECT WOULD TRIGGER S.O.S. COMPLIANCE.

Slusher: OKAY. SO --

THEY HAVE --

Slusher: IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY -- FOR SOME REASON THEY ARE SEEKING A ZONING CHANGE TO RETAIL. SO IF THEY CARRY THAT OUT, PUT A RETAIL USE ON THERE, THAT MAKES IT UNDER S.O.S. IF THEY GET THE ZONING CHANGED TO RETAIL, SAY, WELL, WE ARE GOING TO STILL BUILD THE OFFICE --

WE WOULD HAVE TO RE-EVALUATE THEIR REQUEST AGAIN. BUT CURRENTLY WITH THE OFFICE ZONING DESIGNATION, IF THEY WERE TO GO AHEAD WITH THE OFFICE PROJECT, WEED IN THAT WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED. IF WE GO AHEAD WITH THE RETAIL PROJECT, IT WOULD NOT BE.

Slusher: OKAY, ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE ON BRODIE, WHAT NUMBER IS THAT?

I THINK WE MAY BE POSTPONING Z-4?

Slusher: I'M SORRY, THE ONE STAFF RECOMMENDED R.R. ON.

THAT'S Z-9, A DISCUSSION ITEM.

Slusher: OKAY, I WILL WAIT UNTIL WE DISCUSS IT.

Glasgo: OKAY.

Mayor Garcia: QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. MR. M.L. ZONE INDICATED THAT HE WOULD SPEAK ONLY IF IT IS NOT POSTPONED. THIS ITEM HAS BEEN POSTPONED. Z-1, MR. SLOAN, I SAW YOU SOMEPLACE. DAVID BOWS? DARYL, I'M SORRY. IF YOU COULD COME UP. YOU ARE SPEAKING ON Z-4, AGAIN, Z-4 IS ALSO POSTPONED.

IT IS POSTPONED. I HAD SIGNED UP NOT KNOWING FOR SURE THAT THE ITEM WAS GOING TO BE POSTPONED. AND I WILL READDRESS MY COMMENTS TO THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

Mayor Garcia: IT'S JANUARY THE 9th.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO MARK YOUR CARD SO THAT THEY KEEP IT UNTIL JANUARY THE 9th. J ARM NOLD ON ITEM C 7. ARNOLD, NOT WISHING TO SPEAK, REGISTERED IN FAVOR OF. JOHN EMPY. THIS IS ON Z-8.

GOOD AFTERNOON, THE FIRST THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT SINCE CITY STAFF SUDDENLY DISCOVERED THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM, THIS PROBLEM WOULD AND SHOULD APPLY EQUALLY, FOR THE RECORD, TO EVERY PROJECT, EVERY PENDING PROJECT, CHANGE OF ZONING, UPSTREAM OF THIS POINT. ALL RIGHT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT FOR THE RECORD THAT CHANGING WHERE THEY ARE DRAWING THE FLOODPLAIN IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION. ALL RIGHT? THE CITY IS BOTH IMPLICIT, COM POLICE SIT AND -- COMPLISIT AND NEGLIGENT IN THIS SITUATION. THEY DECLARED IT ILLEGAL FILL. THEY HAVE REFUSED TO MOVE IT OR REQUIRE ANYONE ELSE TO MOVE IT. ALSO, JUNE OF 2003 FOR A STUDY, WHICH IS DUPLICATING WORK ALREADY DONE BY THE COUNTY IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. THE DRAINAGE SITUATION HERE IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. AND THE CITY HAS KNOWN THIS FOR YEARS. MORE THAN FOR YEARS. FOUR YEARS. THEY HAVE FURTHER AGGRAVATED THIS JUST IN THE PAST MONTH BY WHILE WORKING ON A WATER LINE PROJECT RIGHT ALONG 183, DELIBERATELY, INTENTIONALLY PUMPING WATER OUT OF THE HOLE THEY DUG ON TO MY PROPERTY. WHICH IS AN ASSAULT. AN ASSAULT WITH MALICE IN BLACK LETTER LAW. YOU HAVE CONVERTED MY PROPERTY INTO A DRAINAGE EASEMENT. THAT IS A VIOLATION OF U.S. CONSTITUTION, THE FIFTH AMENDMENT AND ILLEGAL TAKING AND LIKEWISE OF THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION. IF THIS IS NOT RESOLVED, IMMEDIATELY, ALL RIGHT, I INTEND TO FILE IN FEDERAL COURT FOR MY ACTUAL DAMAGES IN THE FLOODING OF MY PROPERTY THAT HAS OCCURRED SINCE THE CITY WAS NEGLIGENCE IN -- WAS NEGLIGENT IN THIS, INCLUDING LAST NOVEMBER WHEN THERE WAS WATER IN MY HOUSE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD TO BRING BOATS TO BRING US OUT AND WERE OUTSIDE OF THE -- WE ARE OUTSIDE OF THE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN, AND FOR PUNITIVE AND EXEMPLARY DAMAGES. THE CITY HAS ABSOLUTELY NO DEFENSE, YOU HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR FOUR YEARS. AND THE PROFESSIONAL BOARD OF ENGINEERS HAS ALREADY REVIEWED THIS AND FOUND THAT THE CIVIL ENGINEER WAS NEGLIGENT IN THIS CASE. THUS THE CITY BY EXTENSION, HAVING A DUTY TO SUPERVISE THIS, IS ALSO NEGLIGENT. AND SINCE YOU PUMPED WATER ON TO MY PROPERTY, DELIBERATELY, WATER THAT YOU LOCATED AND PUMPED ON TO MY PROPERTY, YOU ARE ALSO GUILTY OF AN ASSAULT WITH MALICE. AND WHEN I COMPLAIN TO THE CITY, JUST ASKING THEM TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM, NOT ONLY DID THEY REFUSE TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM, THEY CREATED EXCUSES NOT TO, UP TO AND INCLUDING STATING THAT JET LANE WAS A PRIVATE ROAD, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE QUITE WELL AWARE THAT IT BELONGS TO THE CITY, BELONGED TO THE COUNTY BEFORE THAT, AND HAS BELONGED TO THE CITY SINCE THE FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION [BUZZER SOUNDING], WHEN IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT IT BELONGED TO THE CITY, THEY SAID OH, WELL AND STILL DOESN'T FIX -- DIDN'T FIX IT. THE CITY MANAGER REFUSED TO SPEAK TO ME ABOUT IT. REFUSED ME AN APPOINTMENT AT ANY TIME.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

MAYOR, COUNCIL, IT'S UNDERSTANDING THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION WAS THIS GENTLEMAN ABOUT THE ISSUE THAT HE'S RAISED. I CAN'T CONFIRM ON THE MEETINGS, BUT I KNOW THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. I THINK THE STAFF HAVE DISCUSSED IT WITH HIM AT LENGTH. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. GETTING BACK TO THE AGENDA, [INAUDIBLE - NO MIC] Z-1 IS CONSENT FOR POSTPONEMENT UNTIL DECEMBER 12th. 2 IS CONSENT FOR A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AMENDMENT. 3 IS CONSENT FOR FIRST READING. 4 IS CONSENT FOR POSTPONEMENT. 5, 6, 7, CONSENT FOR THREE READINGS. 8 IS POSTPONED INDEFINITELY. 10 IS CONSENT FOR FIRST READING. 11 IS CONSENT FOR THREE READINGS. 12 IS CONSENT FOR THREE READINGS. 13 IS CONSENT FOR POSTPONEMENT INDEFINITELY. FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

Goodman: YES, MAYOR.

Mayor Garcia: MAYOR PRO TEM?

Goodman: I DON'T HAVE ANY PAGES IN THE RIGHT ORDER HERE, BUT I AM INTERESTED AND CONCERNED ABOUT THE CARSON CREEK ISSUE. WHEN WE FIRST ANNEXED THAT AREA, THERE WAS AN ISSUE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY ABOUT THE FLOODING AND WHAT I REMEMBER AT THE TIME WAS THE SOURCE OF THE EXTRA RUNOFF WAS FROM PROPERTY THAT THE CITY HAS NO CONTROL OVER, NO AUTHORITY OVER, AT LEAST THAT WAS THE LEGAL RESPONSE AT THE TIME. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S MUCH MORE HAPPENING THAN I WAS AWARE OF AND I WOULD LIKE A CLEARED INNING OF -- A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED, RUNOFF FROM WHAT, AND HOW IN FACT THE CITY PLAYED A PART IN THAT, WHAT IS THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT -- THAT CONTRIBUTED TO AT LEAST A PERCEPTION OF ADDITIONAL RUNOFF. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE A LEGAL DEFINITION OF -- I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE SPEAKER SAID, BUT IT WAS WITH MALICE. I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INTENT AND MALICE, THERE MAY BE INTENT BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT TO DO X, ALTHOUGH I DOUBT IF IT WAS TO FLOOD ANYBODY. SO I WOULD LIKE A CLEARED INNING OF WHAT OUR PROJECT -- A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR PROJECT WAS, WHAT THE IMPACT FOR OUR SYSTEM IS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO -- TO IMPROVE. AND WHAT EXACTLY OUR OPTIONS ARE AT THIS POINT SINCE -- IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING, AS THE SPEAKER WAS, THEN MAYBE THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ABOUT AUTHORITY OVER THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I THOUGHT WE HAD NO AUTHORITY OVER, IF IN FACT THE PRIVATE ROAD IS NOT A PRIVATE ROAD AT ALL. AND I JUST -- I HAVE MORE AND MORE QUESTIONS NOW, HAVING LISTENED TO THAT, THAT I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANSWERS FOR AND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BEFORE I VOTE ON ANYTHING THAT MAY CONCEIVABLY EXACERBATE IT. SO PART OF THAT IS WHAT IMPACT IS THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW -- DOES THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW HAVE ON THE EXISTING PROBLEM. WE OFTEN TELL PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE AND HAVE HAD FOR MANY, MANY YEARS THAT PRECLUDES THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDITIONAL RUNOFF AFTER DEVELOPMENT RELATIVE TO THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF PREDEVELOPMENT. OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S SOMEWHAT THEORETICAL BECAUSE WE STILL DO INCREASE IMPERVIOUS COVER AND NOT EVERY INCH OF RUNOFF IS CAPTURED. SO I NEED TO HAVE A BETTERED UNDERSTANDING OF ALL OF THOSE ISSUES BEFORE I CAN VOTE.

Mayor Garcia: THIS PARTICULAR CASE WHERE THERE IS A THREAT OF LITIGATION, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THIS ITEM ON AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA. FOR -- TO RECEIVE ADVICE FROM COUNSEL ON IT. AND IF -- IF WE ARE READY TO -- TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON THE 12th, LET'S PUT IT ON THE 12th. IF NOT, WE CAN GO DO JANUARY. THIS CASE IS NOT COMING BACK FOR A WHILE. OBVIOUSLY THE -- IT -- IF A LAWSUIT IS FILED, THAT ITEM WILL THEN APPEAR ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA. BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR DISCUSSIONS TO A MINIMUM ON THIS ONE BECAUSE OF THE THREAT OF LITIGATION AND HOW OUR -- HAVE OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR ATTORNEY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THAT WOULD PROTECT THE INTEREST OF THE CITY. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO MOVE.

Mayor Garcia: MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER WYNN. SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLY. FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION?

Goodman: JUST, MAYOR, THAT IF -- I CAN'T FIND MY PAGES, I'M SORRY, C 3 OR C 4 -- I MEAN Z-3 OR 4th --

Mayor Garcia: DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THE AGENDA AGAIN?

Goodman: IF IT'S CARSON CREEK, I CAN'T -- IF THAT'S STILL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA --

Glasgo: MAYOR PRO TEM, WE ARE POSTPONING THE TWO ITEMS, Z-8 AND Z-13, WERE THE CASE THAT'S WE HAVE PULLED TO POSTPONE INDEFINITELY BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE CARSON CREEK WATERSHED. WE WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION FROM WATERSHED PROTECTION REGARDING THE PRELIMINARY STUDY THAT CURRENT -- THEY ARE CURRENTLY CONDUCTING THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE IN THE FLOODPLAIN. SO WE ARE POSTPONING THOSE TWO ITEMS --

Goodman: I THOUGHT Z-4 WAS ALSO ONE.

Glasgo: Z-4 IS IN THE SLAUGHTER CREEK WATERSHED. THAT'S BEING POSTPONED TO JANUARY THE 9th.

Goodman: OKAY, LET ME JUST -- BORROW CITY LEGAL'S AGENDA FOR JUST A SECOND.

Mayor Garcia: LET ME READ THIS INTO THE RECORD AGAIN MAYOR PRO TEM. ONE IS CONSENT FOR POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 12 December 12th. TWO IS CONSENT, THREE IS CONSENT FOR FIRST READING, FOUR IS CONSENT FOR POSTPONEMENT TO JANUARY THE 9th, 5, 6, 7, CONSENT FOR ALL THREE READINGS, 8 IS CONCEPT FOR POSTPONEMENT INDEFINITELY, 10 IS CONSENT FOR FIRST READING, 11 IS CONSENT FOR THREE READINGS. 12 CONCEPT FOR THREE READINGS AND THREE CONSENT FOR INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT. THE MOTION THAT I NEED IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE CONSENTS ITEMS.

I'M SORRY, MAYOR? ON Z-3 IS ANOTHER ONE THAT MAYOR PRO TEM MENTIONING. JOE GUERRERO INDICATES THIS IS NOT AN AREA OF CONCERN REGARDING THE DRAINAGE AND FLOODING. THE AREA THAT HE HAS CONCERN OVER ARE ON 18 AND -- ITEM NO. 8 AND 13. SO 3, MAYOR PRO TEM, IS IN THE SAME WATERSHED BUT NOT WITH THE SAME PROBLEM.

Goodman: OKAY, I MISUNDERSTOOD THEN WHEN HE WANTED TO SPEAK, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

HE WAS SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO ITEM NO. 8.

Mayor Garcia: CONSENT ITEM 8. INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT.

Goodman: OH, OKAY. THAT IS THE CONSENT ITEM. OKAY.

Mayor Garcia: THE MOTION BY YOU COUNCILMEMBER WYNN IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA?

WYNN: YES, SIR.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLY?

Dunkerly: YES.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY, DISCUSSION. MAYOR PRO TEM? CLEARED UP ALL OF THE ITEMS? ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED, NO. MOTION CARRIES. VOTE OF 7 TO 0. [ONE MOMENT PLEASE FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS]

Glasco: THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY IS OF CRUSHED MATERIAL AND THE STAFF'S CONCERN IS THAT AT THE TIME OF THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL STATE THE CONVERSION OF THE PROPERTY TO AN OFFICE USE, SHOULD OFFICE ZONING BE GRANTED, WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY AND PARKING AREAS BE UPGRADED TO AN ALL-WEATHER SURFACE TO ACCOMMODATE THE USE UNDER THE NEW ZONING, UNDER THE COMMERCIAL ZONING. HOWEVER, SINCE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS COVER TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE CRITICAL QUALITY WATER ZONE AND THE WATER QUALITY TRANSITION ZONE, CONVERTING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL THE PROPERTY HAS TO BE UPGRADED TO COMPLY WITH THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH REQUIRES SURFACING, HENCE THE IMPERVIOUS COVER UNDER THE S.O.S. ORDINANCE. WE THEREFORE FEEL THAT THOSE DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS WOULD CREATE A CONSTRAINT AND THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS RURAL RESIDENTIAL FOR THE PROPERTY. I WILL PAUSE HERE AND TAG MURPHY IS HERE FROM WATERSHED PROTECTION WHO CAN SPEAK MORE TO THE S.O.S. ORDINANCE AND WHAT IT ALLOWS VERSUS WHAT CANNOT BE PUT THERE. AND THEY ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO FLOODPLAIN ISSUES ALSO REGARDING THE FLOODPLAIN. AGAIN, IN ADDITION I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT IN WORKING WITH WATERSHED THE AREA OF THIS PROPERTY IS BOTH WITHIN THE 25-YEAR FLOODPLAIN AND THE 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN. THE ELEVATION OF THE PROPERTY SHOWS THAT THE HOUSE, THE RESIDENCE CURRENTLY IS 1.1 FEET ABOVE THE CURRENT CITY OF AUSTIN 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN AND ALSO ABOVE THE 25-YEAR FLOODPLAIN. SO THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN, BOTH THE 25 AND THE 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN. AND WHILE THERE'S AN EXISTING RESIDENCE THERE, WE WOULD CONSIDER WHAT MIGHT OCCUR IN THE FUTURE SHOULD REDEVELOPMENT BE SOUGHT BEYOND WHAT THE CURRENT OWNER MIGHT WANT TO DO CURRENTLY. SO I'LL LET THE APPLICANT MAKE REPRESENTATION AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS AFTER SHE SPEAKS.

Mayor Garcia: WELCOME.

GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL, I'M SARAH CROCK AT THE TIME HERE ON BEHALF OF DEBRA DUNKETT. SHE'S BEEN A BUSINESS OWNER FOR 25 YEARS. SHE HAS A TALENT AGENCY. AND THEY SUPPLY AUDIO OR VOICEOVER TALENT FOR THE INDUSTRY. AND SHE HAS, AS I SAID BEFORE, OPERATED IN SOUTH AUSTIN FOR OVER 22 YEARS. SHE'S VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROPERTY. IT'S 1.8 ACRES. SHE DID PURCHASE IT. LIKE MOST PEOPLE OUT THERE WHEN THEY BUY PROPERTY, THEY DON'T ALL UNDERSTAND THE INS AND OUTS OF THE S.O.S. ORDINANCE. WHAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THIS: THIS IS AN EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE. IT'S 1500 SQUARE FEET. IT HAS LEGAL LOT STATUS, SO IT DOESN'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS. MY CLIENT DOESN'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING, DOESN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO THE CURRENT RESIDENCE. SHE DOESN'T NEED TO EXPAND, SHE DOESN'T NEED A SITE PLAN. SHE DOESN'T WANT TO ADD ON ANYTHING. AND I MIGHT ALSO ADD THAT UNDER S.O.S., WHICH SHE'S COMPLETELY SUBJECT TO BECAUSE SHE HAS NO ENTITLEMENTS AND SHE HAS NO 1704. THIS ISN'T ONE OF THOSE PARTICULAR SITUATIONS, SHE WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO ADD ANYTHING. S.O.S. IN AND OF ITSELF BUILT IN A LOT OF PROTECTION ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE RULES AND THE REGULATIONS IT HAS WITH REGARD TO THE WATER QUALITY ZONE AND THE WATER TRANSITION ZONE. SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT CANNOT BE EXPANDED UNDER S.O.S. WHAT'S THERE NOW, WHAT'S THERE TODAY AND YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE AS-BUILT SURVEY, IS LIKE I SAID A 1500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE. THAT'S ALL YOU GET, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, YOU CANNOT GET ANY MORE. THE CODE REQUIRES THAT YOU PROVIDE A HARD WEATHER SURFACE FOR PARKING AS BROUGHT UP BY STAFF, HOWEVER, AND THERE ARE NO ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCES PERMITTED BY S.O.S., BUT YOU CAN, HOWEVER, GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND ASK FOR A VARIANCE TO NOT HAVE TO PROVIDE A HARD SURFACE ASPHALT PARKING AREA, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD DO FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. I THINK IT WOULD QUALIFY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING ANYTHING THAT WOULD INCREASE RUNOFF IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FOORM. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT UNDER THE CODE YOU ARE PERMITTED TO INSTALL PERFECTIOUS PAVERS. YOU CAN DO UP TO 20% PERFECTIOUS PAVERS. SO IF WE HAVE AN AREA WHERE WE NEED TO PUT A HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACE, WE COULD CERTAINLY ACCOMMODATE SOMEBODY WITH PERFECTIOUS PAVERS. SO THERE ARE OPTIONS WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. SHE'S VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS TRACT. SHE LIKES IT BECAUSE IT HAS SORT OF A RURAL RESIDENTIAL FEEL TO IT AND SHE DOESN'T FREIGHT OPERATE A BUSINESS WITH A SIGN, SHE DOESN'T -- SHE HAS THREE EMPLOYEES, THAT'S ALL SHE'S HAD FOR THE LAST 22 YEARS. SHE CERTAINLY DOESN'T NEED TO INCREASE HER EMPLOYEE BASE BECAUSE MOST OF HER WORK FROM HER CLIENTS IS DONE OVER THE COMPUTER. THEY SHIP ALL OF THEIR AUDIO STUFF OVER THE COMPUTER. SHE DOES OCCASIONALLY HAVE AUDITIONS. THAT'S VERY RARE. SO SHE DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY TRAFFIC THERE. SHE PROBABLY HAS LESS TRAFFIC THEREIN THR ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASE THAN IF IT WAS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE. SHE DOESN'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. SHE'S PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH IT JUST THE WAY IT IS. AND I THINK THAT N.O. IS A REASONABLE REQUEST FOR 1 POINT WILL ACRES HERE. MISS HE IS CUE, WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY SINCE 1950 THAT SOLD IT TO MY CLIENT, I HAVE A LETTER IN MY FILE, NOT ONCE IN THE 50 YEARS THAT SHE OWNED THE PROPERTY, LIVED HERE AND RAISED HER FAMILY, CAN THAT CREEK COME OUT OF THE BANK AND FLOOD HER HOUSE. NOT ONCE. YES, IT'S IN THE 100 YEAR. IT'S WELL OUT OF THE 25-YEAR AND THE HOUSE IS TWO -- FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION IS TWO FEET ABOVE THE 100 YEAR. THANK YOU.

Mayor Garcia: QUESTIONS FOR MS. CROCKER?

Slusher: I'VE GOT ONE. MS. CROCKER, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID. YOU WOULD GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS TO TRY TO KEEP FROM HAVING TO BUILD THE PARKING?

I ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING AREA. I WOULD GO TO THE BOARD I OF ADJUSTMENTS TO NOT HAVE TO PUT ASPHALT DOWN ON TOP OF IT, KEEP OUR CRUSHED GRANITE OR GRAVEL, JUST EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE GOT.

Slusher: MISS GLASGO, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. IS IT -- IS IT A CITY REQUIREMENT FOR PARKING THAT IS KICKING IN THE SITUATION WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET AN S.O.S. LIMITED ADJUSTMENT IN ORDER TO HAVE THE REQUIRED PARKING? I DON'T KNOW IF I PHRASED THAT RIGHT. I'M WONDERING IF -- BECAUSE IT SAYS IN THE BACKUP AND I THINK YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE -- GO OUTSIDE THE S.O.S. IN ORDER TO HAVE ENOUGH PARKING. IS THAT SO THAT IT WOULD MEET A CITY REQUIREMENT OR IS THAT FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY HAD PROPOSED?

THAT'S WHAT THE REQUIREMENT FOR -- CURRENTLY THE USE ON THE SITE OF THE RESIDENCE, IF COUNCIL GRANTS THE ZONING TO OFFICE, THEN THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE IN USE, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO FILE CHANGE IN USE UNDER THE BUILDING PERMITTING REQUIREMENT TO CONVERT THE USE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. AT THE TIME THEY DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING. THE REQUIRED POORK IS FOR THIS HOUSE WOULD BE FIVE PARKING SPACES. AT THAT TIME THAT'S WHEN THE REQUIREMENT OF FIVE SPACES WOULD HAVE TO HAVE HARD SURFACE, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT.

Slusher: OKAY. I'M GLAD TO SEE THE STAFF TAKING A STRICT APPROACH TO S.O.S. HERE. I AM A LITTLE SYMPATHETIC TO -- THAT IT'S A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE ON BRODIE LANE THAT I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD -- IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT -- TO REQUIRE IT TO BE LIKE MS. CROCKER IS STATING, WHERE THAT THEY WOULDN'T REQUIRE ANY MORE PAVEMENT, AND THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE EITHER. ,WHERE WE LOCK IT IN RIGHT NOW WHERE MS. DUNKETT CAN USE IT AS AN OFFICE, BUT AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL PAVEMENT AND STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY, THOSE GET LOCKED IN AS PART OF THE ZONING CASE.

Glasco: WELL, THE ZONING -- THE SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WOULD BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE ZONING. I THINK IF YOU GRANT THE ZONING THIS WILL HAVE TO GO FORWARD TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS SEPARATELY.

Slusher: WE CAN DO THAT.

Glasco: THEY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE CLIENS OR SEEK A VARIANCE AT THE TIME THEY'RE READY. BECAUSE TODAY BEFORE YOU IS JUST A ZONING CHANGE, JUST A CHANGE IN ZONING, AND NOT TO CONSIDER ANY VARIANCES OR TO ADJUST ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT WOULD BE A FUNCTION, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PAVERS, AND PAT MURPHY CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK TO THE IMPERVIOUS PAVERS AND PARKING. BUT WITH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, THAT'S THEIR PURVIEW AND NOT COUNCIL'S THROUGH THE ZONING.

Slusher: BUT IF THERE HAD TO BE A LIMITED ADJUSTMENT, THAT WOULD COME TO YOU LIKE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT SAID NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET YOU DO THE PAVERS, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME HERE FOR THE LIMITED ADJUSTMENT.

Glasco: THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE PART AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE FROM THAT ASPECT.

Slusher: MR. ZAPALAC, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? I NOTICED YOU WERE UP THERE A SECOND AGO.

COUNCILMEMBER, GEORGE ZAPALAC WITH WATERSHED PROTECTION. THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL, RATHER THAN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SETS THE REQUIREMENT FOR PAVED PARKING. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF CAN WAIVE ADMINISTRATIVELY, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE SOME CRITERIA UNDER WHICH SUCH A WAIVER COULD BE GRANTED. AND PRIMARILY IT'S TO PROTECT TREES OR OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES.

Slusher: OKAY. SO THIS WOULD FIT UNDER THAT THEN, WOULDN'T IT? IF YOU'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE WATER QUALITY, THAT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE?

IT POSSIBLY COULD. WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS OF THIS SITUATION.

Slusher: OKAY. THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. MR. MURPHY, I NOTICED YOU'RE COMING UP TO THE MICROPHONE.

JUST ONE QUICK CLARIFICATION. IF THEY USED PERMEABLE PAVING OR NOT, OUR CODE CURRENTLY COUNTS THAT AS IMPERVIOUS COVER THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. SO THAT'S REALLY NOT PART OF THE -- THAT'S IRRELEVANT TO THE ISSUE. IF THEY HAVE TO HAVE PAVING OF ANY SORT, THAT'S THE ISSUE.

Slusher: OKAY. MS. CROCKER, YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T NEED TO ADD THAT OR ANY KIND OF PAVING?

NO. ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS ASKING WITH STAFF IS WE HAVE TO PROVIDE ZERO PARKING SPACES, WHICH WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT. WE WOULD BE WILLING TO LIMIT OUR IMPERVIOUS COVER TO EXACTLY WHAT'S ON THE SITE NOW. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONDITION IN THE ORDINANCE, THAT YOU CAN LIMIT THE SITE, THE IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE SITE TO EXACTLY WHAT IT IS NOW.

Slusher: AND MR. MURPHY SAID THAT WOULD INCLUDE THEN -- THAT WOULD INCLUDE EVEN PAVERS BECAUSE THOSE ARE COUNTED AS IMPERVIOUS COVER.

IF THEY WERE TO -- I THINK WHAT MS. CROCKER TALKED ABOUT WAS ADDING PARKING AND TO IMPERMEABLE PAVING TO DO THAT. WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT IS IF YOU ADD PAVING OF ANY SORT, THAT'S GOING TO BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE S.O.S.

Slusher: OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU SAID. AND MS. CROCKER, YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T NEED TO ADD ANY PARKING? AM I HEARING THAT RIGHT? THE CITY WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO UNLESS YOU GET SOME KIND OF EXCEPTION EXEMPTION, BUT AS FAR AS WHAT YOU ACTUALLY NEED ON THIS PROPERTY --

WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE TO IT. WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ELSE TO IT AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ELSE TO IT.

Slusher: SO YOU WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF A MOTION THAT SAYS -- LET ME TRY TO REPHRASE WHAT YOU JUST SAID. THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THIS WITH THERE BEING NO ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS COVER ADDED TO THIS TRACT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

Slusher: OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT ON FIRST READ, MAYOR.

Dunkerley: SECOND.

Mayor Garcia: MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DO WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO. [ LAUGHTER ]

Slusher: I'LL REPEAT IT, MAYOR. IT WOULD BE TO APPROVE THIS ZONING OF L.O. --

Mayor Garcia: N.O.

Slusher: I'M SORRY, N.O., WITH AN AMENDMENT THAT THERE BE NO ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS COVER BEYOND WHAT'S ON THE TRACT RIGHT NOW.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. IS THERE -- AND THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLEY.

Slusher: AND WE WOULD ADD, OF COURSE, THE GROW GREEN. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU, MS. CROCKER? MS. CROCKER? WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT THE GROW GREEN ON THERE.

SURE.

Slusher: OKAY.

COUNCILMEMBER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE -- WE WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH MS. CROCKER ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY THE IMPERVIOUS COVER IS THAT EXISTS ON THE TRACT NOW BECAUSE WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO IS WE'LL HAVE TO NAIL DOWN EXACTLY WHAT THAT IMPERVIOUS COVER IS, BECAUSE SIMPLY SAYING IN THE ORDINANCE THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY MORE IMPERVIOUS COVER DOESN'T REALLY TIE IT DOWN FOR US BECAUSE WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S OUT THERE.

Slusher: I APPRECIATE THAT AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I PUT IT ON FIRST READING ONLY.

YEAH. SO WE WILL NAIL IT DOWN WITH MS. CROCKER, AND THAT MEANS MS. CROCKER WILL HAVE TO GIVE US IN METES AND BOUNDS.

I CAN DO THAT.

GOOD.

Goodman: MAYOR, CAN I ASK STAFF A QUESTION QUICKLY BEFORE WE GO FOR A VOTE.

Mayor Garcia: LET'S SEE IF WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO TO QUESTIONS. OR DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.

Goodman: NO. I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL ONE MOTION.

Mayor Garcia: MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES. MAYOR PRO TEM?

Goodman: A LONG TIME AGO WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH ISSUES ON THIS IN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS THAT HAD RECHARGE AND TRYING NOT TO ADD MORE IMPERVIOUS COVER EVEN FOR PARKING OR DRIVEWAYS WHEN NOT NEEDED, THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT PERVIOUS PAVERS AND FOUND OUT THAT DOES ACT PRETTY MUCH LIKE IMPERVIOUS PAVERS. BUT WE ALSO HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DIFFERENT GRADINGS AND SIZES OF GRAVEL, SO ON, SO FORTH, PACKED DIRT, AND SOME TREATMENT FOR PACKED EARTH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT. SO DID WE EVER HAVE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT OFFERED ALTERNATIVE HARD SURFACE WHILE STILL BEING PERVIOUS FOR CONDITIONS AND REQUESTS LIKE THIS?

NOTHING RIGHT NOW IN THE CODE PROHIBITS USE OF THOSE SORTS OF ALTERNATIVE PAVING MATERIALS AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE COMPACTION AND LOADING STREAM THAT'S REQUIRED BY OTHER SECTIONS OF THE CODE. SO THE WATERSHED REGULATIONS DON'T PROHIBIT THE USE OF THOSE, THERE'S JUST CURRENTLY NO INCENTIVE OR THERE IS NO DISCOUNT, IF YOU WILL, FROM IMPERVIOUS COVER BY USE OF THAT. AND FOR THE REASONS YOU JUST STATED. MANY OF THOSE PRODUCTS COMPACT OVER TIME OR WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT LONG-TERM PERMANENT YABILITY RELATIVE TO -- PERMANENTABILITY -- PERMANENT YABILITY RELATIVE TO SEDIMENTATION AND STUFF. SO THE CODE CURRENTLY USE LOUZ YOU TO USE PERM I CAN'T BELIEVE PAVING, AND THERE'S NO NENT TO DO SO. AND NOTHING WAS BROUGHT FORWARD ON THAT RECENTLY, AND FRANKLY THE LAST THING THAT WAS DONE WITH THIS IS WE REMOVED THE CREDIT THAT WAS PREVIOUS HI IN THE CODE IN 1986 BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING SUCH PROBLEMS WITH HOW IT WAS PUT IN. AND IN MANY CASES IT WAS BEING PUT IN OVERCOME PACTED BASE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE CONSTRUCTION -- THE STRENGTH REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ELSEWHERE IN OUR CODES AND FOR FIRE TRUCKS AND SO FORTH.

Goodman: JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU MEAN IF SOMEBODY WERE PROPOSING THAT SORT OF DRIVEWAY OR DRIVING PATH, THEY COULD DO IT, BUT THEY WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED BY THE ZONING CODE TO PUT IN ACTUAL PAVING OF SOME SORT?

IT IS ALLOWED AS A PAVING ALTERNATIVE. CURRENTLY THERE ARE MANY PRODUCTS, AND I'M SURE MR. ZAPALAC COULD BE MUCH MORE SPECIFIC ON THIS, BUT THERE ARE NUMEROUS ALTERNATIVE PAVING MATERIALS OUT THERE NOW THAT MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS AND CAN BE USED. THERE'S JUST NO CREDIT GIVEN FOR USE OF THOSE. AND SO RIGHT NOW SOMEONE IF THEY WERE BUILDING A PARKING LOT COULD USE ASPHALT, CONCRETE, PERMEABLE PAVERS. THAT'S NUMEROUS PRODUCTS. ANY OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE OKAY, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE GIVEN SOME SPECIAL CREDIT OR -- FOR IMPERVIOUS COVER OR INCENTIVES ELSEWHERE IN THE CODE TO DO THAT.

Goodman: OKAY. THANK YOU. IT MAY BE TIME FOR US TO ASK FOR A LITTLE REVISITATION WITH THAT WHOLE ISSUE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZONING AND PLATTING AND ENVIRONMENTAL BOARDS.

WE CAN HAVE THE STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ISSUE AND GO THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE BOARDS.

Mayor Garcia: THERE'S BEEN A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM C-9 WITH THE -- Z- -9 WITH THE AMENDMENTS ON FIRST READING. AND A CLARIFICATION MADE BY THE CITY ATTORNEY WITH REGARD TO THE REQUEST THAT WAS MADE TO THE APPLICANT'S AGENT BY SPECIFYING THE IMPERVIOUS COVER AMOUNTS. FURTHER DISCUSSION?

Dunkerley: MAYOR, WOULD YOU SHARE WITH ME WHO MADE THE MOTION AND SECOND? I HAD IT ON THE HEARING, BUT NOT ON THIS MOTION.

> Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER MADE THE MOTION TO THE AMENDMENTS AND COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLEY SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

Mayor Garcia: OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO. WE HAVE THREE MINUTES BEFORE THE 5:00 O'CLOCK TIME CERTAIN, AND SO WE'LL STAND IN RECESS HERE, RETURNING E-MAILS, AND WE'LL COME RIGHT BACK IN ABOUT THREE MINUTES.

Mayor Garcia: IT IS NOW 5:00 O'CLOCK, AND I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING OF THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL OF DECEMBER THE 5TH BACK TO ORDER. AND WE ARE TO OUR 5:00 P.M. NEAR TERM CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT HEARING. AND THE ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 66. AND IT SAYS APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEAR TERM CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT TRANSPORTATION RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN IT HAS THE EXPLANATIONS OF THE FUNDING MECHANISMS. AT THIS TIME -- CAN WE HAVE THE CITY MANAGER UP HERE, PLEASE? ITE I'LL RECOGNIZE O.O. I'LL RECOGNIZE MR. LEE BROCK FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MY NAME IS AUSTAN LIBRACH. I'D LIKE TO JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. SINCE WE DID PRESENT THIS IN WORK SESSION, I WON'T GO INTO THE DETAILS, BUT WE DO HAVE HERE AS WE DID THEN STAFF FROM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE WORKED ON THIS, AND WE HAVE -- I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE CONSULTANTS HERE OR WILL SHORTLY WHO CAN BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU HAVE THEM AS WE DID AT THE WORK SESSION. THIS ITEM HAS -- YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU THAT HAS A TOTAL OF ACTUALLY 25 DIFFERENT PARTS. THE FIRST 15 ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE CONSTRUCTION-RELATED ITEMS. THERE ARE SEVEN FOLLOWING THAT THAT ARE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FURTHER STUDY AND THEN THREE FINAL ITEMS HAVING TO DO WITH POLICY MATTERS, FOR A TOTAL OF 25. THESE REPRESENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE STAFF TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION TO THE STAFF OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. BASICALLY TO TAKE ISSUES WITH REGARD TO IMPROVING MOBILITY DOWNTOWN AND ISSUES WITH REGARD TO IMPROVING PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLINESS AND TO MELD THOSE TOGETHER INTO A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL IMPROVE DOWNTOWN, IMPROVE TRAFFIC AND IMPROVE MOBILITY FOR PEDESTRIANS AND FOR BICYCLISTS DOWNTOWN. AND WE, AS YOU MAY RECALL, USED A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT STUDIES AND A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS TO BRING THE INFORMATION TO US. AND WITH THOSE STUDIES AND WITH THAT INFORMATION WE WENT TO THE PUBLIC, TO THE COMMUNITY, TO THE STAKEHOLDER COMMUNITY AND TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OF THE CITY. WE ALSO DID THROUGH THE INTERNET DID A SURVEY, AND THAT SURVEY DATA IS AVAILABLE IN YOUR BACKUP AS IS THE BACKUP INFORMATION, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE HAVE IT, FROM VARIOUS BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND STAKEHOLDER GROUPS THAT HAVE WRITTEN TO US AND INDICATED THEIR POSITION ON THESE VARIOUS ITEMS. WE ALSO PREPARED A CHART THAT WE NICKNAMED THE SMILEY CHART THAT HAS IN IT MOST OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS COMPARED TO EACH OTHER SIDE BY SIDE WITH REGARD TO THE FIRST 15 ITEMS IN THE RESOLUTION. I HAVE A SUGGESTION TO THE COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO HOW YOU MAY WISH TO PROCEED WITH THE CONDUCT OF CONSIDERATION OF THESE ITEMS, AND THAT IS TO TAKE THESE IN SERIES AS OPPOSED TO ONE VOTE FOR THE ENTIRE 25 ITEMS. AND I THINK YOU MAY HAVE COPIES OF -- BEFORE YOU OF THE SEVEN SUGGESTED VOTES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO LAY OUT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. IF I MAY, MAYOR, THE FIRST -- AND THESE ARE, GENERALLY SPEAKING, ALTHOUGH YOU MAY DISAGREE AND CERTAINLY THE COMMUNITY MAY DISAGREE, FROM WHAT I ASSUME TO BE THE EASIEST ITEMS, MEANING THAT THERE HAS BEEN VERY BROAD CONSENSUS IN FAVOR OF THOSE, TO THE HARDEST ITEMS, MEANING THAT THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF CONTROVERSY, CONCERN OR ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I WOULD START WITH THE EASIEST FIRST. AND THAT VOTE WOULD BE FOR IF YOU TAKE IF YOU FOLLOW ME WITH THE RESOLUTION, FROM THE FIRST 15 ITEMS, I'M SUGGESTING THAT ITEMS 3, 4, 10, 11, 12 AND 15 FROM THAT FIRST GROUP -- SHOULD I WAIT? LET ME WAIT UNTIL YOU FIND THE HOPE OF THE RESOLUTION.

Mayor Garcia: GO AHEAD.

THE RESOLUTION SHOULD BE IN YOUR BACKUP. I BELIEVE IT'S AT THE END OF THE BACKUP ACTUALLY.

Mayor Garcia: YES, IT IS.

IF I MAY, I'LL PROCEED. AGAIN, FROM THIS FIRST WHAT I'LL CALL CONSENT VOTE WOULD BE ITEMS 3, 4, 10, 11, 12 AND 15 FROM THE FIRST GROUP. AND THEN ITEMS 3, 4, 5 AND 7 FROM THE SECOND GROUP AND ITEM 3 FROM THE THIRD. AND I'LL READ THESE JUST SO IT'S CLEAR WHAT I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU. ITEM 3 IN THE FIRST GROUP IS TO PROVIDE NORTH TO WEST AND SOUTH TO EAST DUAL LEFT TURN LANES FROM LAMAR BOULEVARD TO BARTON SPRINGS ROAD. NUMBER 4, CONVERT SECOND STREET TO TWO-WAY BETWEEN SAN ANTONIO AND TRINITY AND CONVERT SECOND STREET TO THE STANDARD PROPOSED IN THE SECOND STREET RETAIL DISTRICT PLAN. AND I MIGHT FOOTNOTE THAT THIS THIS PARTICULAR ITEM HAS BEEN BEFORE COUNCIL SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE AND YOU'VE ALREADY FUNDED STUDIES AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. IT APPEARS HERE I THINK SIMPLY THAT WE START OFF WITH THIS SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE YOU HAD APPROVED FUNDING FOR THIS ITEM, SOME SIX, EIGHT MONTHS AGO. AND SO IT REMAINS AS PART OF THE PACKAGE, BUT IN FACT I BELIEVE YOU HAVE AT LEAST SENT US FORWARD ON THE WORK FOR THE SECOND STREET. THE SECOND ONE, THE NEXT ONE IS ITEM 10, PROVIDE REVERSIBLE LANE ON SOUTH FIRST BETWEEN BARTON SPRINGS ROAD AND CESAR CHAVEZ. THEN NUMBER 12, EXTEND WEST AVENUE BETWEEN THIRD STREET AND CESAR CHAVEZ. NUMBER 15, EXTEND WEST THIRD STREET FROM NUECES TO WEST AVENUE WITH NEW BRIDGES OVER SHOAL CREEK. FROM THAT FIRST GROUP OF 15, IN THIS VOTE I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU THAT OUT OF THE SECOND GROUP OF RESOLVE CLAUSE, ITEM 3, WHICH IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ADOPTION OF A GREAT STREET'S MASTER PLAN, THE -- EXCUSE ME, I JUMPED AHEAD THERE. NUMBER 3 IS CONTINUE OPERATIONAL STUDIES OF DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC AND REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL EVERY FIVE YEARS ON THE STATE OF DOWNTOWN ACCESS AND MOBILITY AND IDENTIFY POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS. WE HAVE DONE THROUGH THE DAMP PROJECT A FIVE-YEAR STUDY AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO A SIMILAR DAMP STUDY ON A REGULAR BASIS FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND COMMUNITY CONSIDERATION AS WE MOVE DOWN INTO THE FUTURE. THE NEXT ONE IS NUMBER 4, CONTINUE COORDINATING WITH CAPITAL METRO TO IDENTIFY THE BEST STREET CONFIGURATIONS FOR DOWNTOWN TRANSIT ROUTES TO ENHANCE TRANSIT OPERATION AND PASSENGER TRANSFERS. OF COURSE, WE ARE FOLLOWING YOUR DIRECTION AND ARE WORKING ON THAT AND HAVE BEEN THE LAST FEW YEARS, CERTAINLY ON THIS PARTICULAR STUDY. AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT IS THE TREKS YOU WOULD LIKE US TO CONTINUE TO DO, TO FOLLOW. NUMBER 5, EVALUATE LONG-TERM OPTIONS TO MOVE PEOPLE AND GOODS TO AND THROUGH THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. THIS STUDY SHALL CONSIDER ALL TRANSPORTATION MODES AND SHALL NOT EXCLUDE THOSE OPTIONS WITH A POTENTIALLY HIGH COST. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE BROUGHT TO YOU TO DATE. WE HAVE LIMITED THIS TO THE FIVE YEARS, AS I INDICATED, AND HAVE LIMITED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THOSE THINGS THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE CIP VOTE OF THE VOTERS FOR BONDS. THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS SAYING, WELL, THERE ARE SOME LONGER TERM ISSUES TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE BUSINESS DISTRICT, AND WE BELIEVE WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE. AND IN FACT, AGAIN, YOU HAVE AGREED TO FUND A STUDY LOOKING AT HOV LANES COMING INTO DOWNTOWN. AND THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF CAMPO, IT WAS ENDORSED BY COUNCIL, AND WE SUGGESTED TO YOU FUNDING FOR IT OUT OF THE QUARTER-CENT. SO THAT IS ONE THAT, AGAIN, YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN AN ACTION WITH REGARD TO WHEN YOU DEALT WITH THE QUARTER-CENT FUNDING. THE NEXT ONE ON THIS LIST IS NUMBER 7, DEVELOP DOWNTOWN CURB SPACE ALLOCATION PROTOCOL USING ADVICE FROM CITY STAFF, MEMBERS OF THE APPROPRIATE CITY COMMISSION AND USERS OF DOWNTOWN CURB SPACE. THIS HAS TO DO WITH ATTEMPTING TO FIND MORE ON-STREET PARKING AND TO STANDARDIZE THE PROTOCOLS OR THE REGULATIONS THAT WE USE WITH REGARD TO WHEN WE ALLOW OR DON'T ALLOW FREE PARKING ZONES OR 15-MINUTE LOADING ZONES OR OTHER KIND OF ZONES THAT EXIST DOWNTOWN. AND WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE DO THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DAA AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO WORK THROUGH A CONSISTENT SET OF DOWNTOWN RECOMMENDATIONS. AND HOPEFULLY THROUGH THAT PROCESS FRAME UP IN IN FINDING ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE, ON-STREET PARKING DOWNTOWN. THE FINAL ONE IN THIS FIRST GROUP IS NUMBER 3 OF THE FINAL GROUP, WHICH IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ADOPTION OF A GREAT STREETS MASTER PLAN, THE CITY MANAGER IS DIRECTED TO DEVELOP COMPREHENSIVE ALTERNATIVE STREET SCAPE STANDARDS TO ENSURE THAT DOWNTOWN HAS A CONSISTENT LOOK AND FEEL AND IS CONCLUSIVE TO PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY. FURTHER, TO COMMENCE THE PROCESS OF ADOPTING SUCH ALTERNATIVES THROUGH THE CITY RULES, PROMULGATION POSTING PROCESS. THIS IS SORT OF THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF GREAT STREETS. THIS IS THE PART OF GREAT STREETS THAT INVOLVES THE DESIGN OF THE THINGS LIKE THE TREE WELLS, THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALKS, THE CURB, WHERE THE VARIOUS STREET EQUIPMENT WOULD GO AND STREET FURNISH FURNITURE AND THEIR SIZE AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO THIS IS THE DETAIL OF GREAT STREETS. SO THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, COUNCIL, ARE ONES THAT HAVE NOT RAISED ANY CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY, AND YOU HAVE NOT TO THIS POINT ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU MAY WISH TO TAKE THAT GROUP UP FIRST.

Wynn: MAYOR? MR. LIBRACH, YOU SEEMED TO HAVE SKIPPED OVER ITEM 11, WHICH IS ON MY SHEET AS A NON-CONTENTIOUS ISSUE.

I APOLOGIZE. I MEANT TO READ NUMBER 11. IT'S ON MY LIST. CAN I READ IT NOW. IT SAYS CONSTRUCT A NORTH TO EAST RIGHT TURN BAY FROM LAMAR TO SANDRA MEASURE RITA WAY. MORE RITA WAY. WOULD YOU LIKE AT THE ME TO READ THROUGH THE ENTIRE LIST? THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION OF VOTE WOULD BE WHAT I CALL THE RIVERSIDE VOTE, AND IT IS NUMBER 14 ON THE FIRST LIST, WHICH READS REDUCE THE WIDTH OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE TO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION IN THE VICINITY OF TOWN LAKE PARK. AND ALONG WITH THAT ONE, I HAVE RECOMMENDED A SIMILAR ITEM IN THE SECOND GROUP, WHICH IS TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALTERNATIVES THAT WOULD MAKE VIABLE THE REMOVAL OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE AS AN AT-GRADE ROADWAY THROUGH TOWN LAKE PARK. RIVERSIDE DRIVE SHOULD NOT BE PERMANENTLY CLOSED THROUGH THE PARK UNTIL SUCH TIME AS ALTERNATIVES ARE IMPLEMENTED TO REPLACE RIVERSIDE DRIVE'S LOST TRAFFIC CAPACITY. SO IT IS ON THE ONE HAND SAYING TO YOU THAT WE THINK WE CAN REDUCE RIVERSIDE DRIVE TO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION AND THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT WE ALSO BE TASKED WITH TRYING TO FIND A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO REMOVE RIVERSIDE DRIVE ALTOGETHER, BUT THAT THAT NOT BE DONE UNLESS WE'RE ABLE TO COME UP WITH ALTERNATIVES FROM THE TRAFFIC. SO THAT'S A PAIR THAT I BELIEVE THERE IS SOME CONCERN ABOUT SOME -- YOU HAD RECEIVED SOME TESTIMONY IN FAVOR AND SOME AGAINST REGARDING THAT. NUMBER 3 IS LEFT TURN ON CONGRESS, AND THAT IS SIMPLY NUMBER 2 FROM THE FIRST GROUP. AND THAT IS TO RESTRICT PEAK HOUR LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS ON CONGRESS AVENUE BETWEEN SECOND AND 10th STREETS FOR A SIX-MONTH STUDY PERIOD. NUMBER 4 IS THE LEFT TURN ON LAMAR, AND THAT IS NUMBER 1 FROM THE FIRST LIST. AND THAT READS, RESTRICT PEAK HOUR LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS FROM LAMAR BOULEVARD TO FIFTH AND SIXTH STREETS FOR A SIX-MONTH STUDY PERIOD. THEN THE FIFTH VOTE IS THE LANCE ARMSTRONG ITEM, AND THAT IS ITEM NUMBER 13 IN THE FIRST GROUP. AND THAT IS DEDICATE BIKE LANES FOR LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY ON FOURTH STREET THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THEN IF THIRD STREET REVERTS TO TWO-WAY TRAFFIC FLOW, THE CITY MANAGER IS DIRECTED TO REEVALUATE THE LOCATION OF THE BIKE LANES. SO IT IS A DECISION TO -- FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME TO LOCATE THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY ON FOURTH STREET. THE NEXT IS NUMBER 6 IN THE VOTING SEQUENCE, AND I'VE CALLED THAT THE CESAR CHAVEZ ISSUE. AND IT IS NUMBER 5 IN THE FIRST GROUP. AND READING, RETAIN CESAR CHAVEZ AS ONE WAY EASTBOUND SWEEN SAN ANTONIO AND TRINITY AND REINSTRUCT AND CONVERT THIRD STREET TO ONE WAY WESTBOUND BETWEEN SAN ANTONIO AND TRINITY STREETS WITH WIDENED SIDEWALKS AND OTHER AMENITIES. AND IT IS COUPLED WITH NUMBER 1 IN THE SECOND GROUP, WHICH IS TO EVALUATE THE LONG-TERM CONVERSION OF CESAR CHAVEZ TO A TREE-LINED TWO-WAY BOULEVARD IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SO ON THE ONE HAND, WE'RE SAYING AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING MAINTAIN A FIRST AND THIRD ONE WAY PAIR, BUT YOU'RE DIRECTING THE STAFF TO STUDY THE ISSUE OF FINDING AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW ULTIMATELY CESAR CHAVEZ TO BE CONVERTED TO A TWO-WAY STREET AS WELL AS THIRD STREET. FINALLY THEN THE LAST VOTE IS THE TWO-WAY CONVERSION VOTE. AND IT IS NUMBERS 6, #-, 78 AND #-. AND THAT IS TO CONVERT BRAZOS AND COLORADO TO TWO WAY BETWEEN SAYS CESAR CHAVEZ AND 11th STREET. CON CONVERT NINTH AND 10th STREET TO TWO WAY BETWEEN GUADALUPE AND IH-35 35. ONE YEAR AFTER THE CONVERSION IS COMPLETE STAFF SHALL PREPARE A REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER EVALUATING IMPACTS OF THE CONVERSION AND PROVIDING A RECOMMENDATION FOR OR AGAINST PROCEEDING WITH ONE TO TWO-WAY CONVERSIONS. AND THAT WOULD APPLY OBVIOUSLY TO WHICHEVER PAIR THE COUNCIL PICKS AS THE FIRST PAIR, IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO PICK A PAIR TO CONVERT. THE NEXT ONE, NUMBER 8, IS TO DIVERT SEVENTH AND EIGHTH STREET TO TWO WAY FOR SEVENTH AND FROM I-35 35 TO NUECES FOR EIGHTH STREET. AND THEN NUMBER 9 IS TO CONVERT TRINITY BETWEEN THIRD AND THIRD STREET AND 15TH STREET. AND SAN JACINTO BETWEEN CESAR CHAVEZ AND 15TH STREET TO TWO-WAY TRAFFIC FLOW. IT SAYS THESE ARE SECOND PHASE CHANGES TO BE MADE AFTER EVALUATION. I THINK, HOWEVER, BASED ON YOUR DECISION I THINK ON ITEM 59 EARLIER TODAY, AND TALKING WITH STAFF, I THINK THAT YOU CERTAINLY COULD CHOOSE TO DO TRINITY AND SAN JACINTO FIRST AS A FIRST PAIR, THERE BY MAKING IT EASIER TO PUT IN BIKE LANES IN THE NORTH-SOUTH DIRECTION. IN ADDITION THERE WOULD BE IN ALL OF THESE CONVERSIONS, THERE WOULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION THAT WOULD BE HAD WITH OWNERS, GARAGE OWNERS, AND OTHERS ALONG THOSE, WITH WHATEVER STREETS ARE CHOSEN, TO DETERMINE SPECIFIC DETAILS. AND THAT THEN GOES TO THE SECOND PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS NUMBER 2 FROM THE SECOND GROUP, WHICH IS COORDINATE WITH STATE OF TEXAS TO IDENTIFY AND ADDRESS POSSIBLE ISSUES CREATED BY TWO-WAY CONVERSION OF ANY STREETS THROUGH THE CAPITOL COMPLEX. AND THEN THE FINAL TWO IN THE GROUP -- THIRD GROUP, BEFORE THE TRAFFIC FLOW OF ANY DOWNTOWN STREET SEGMENT IS SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED, CITY STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDER GROUPS ON A BLOCK BY BLOCK, DWOAPT BY DEVELOPMENT BASIS TO IDENTIFY AND MITIGATE OPERATIONAL ISSUES ARISING FROM THE CHANGE. AND THEN FINALLY, CITY STAFF WILL DEVELOP APPROPRIATE AGREEMENT WATER AND WASTEWATER GARAGE OWNERS TO MITIGATE REASONABLE ACCESS RECONSTRUCTION COSTS RELATED TO CHANGES IN TRAFFIC FLOW DIRECTION AS FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE. THAT THEN COVERS ALL 25 OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ORGANIZED INTO THESE SEVEN DIFFERENT VOTES. I'LL BE GLAD TO GO OVER THAT AGAIN, OR I'M SURE THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING, OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, MAYOR.

Mayor Garcia: QUESTIONS FOR MR. LIBRACH? OKAY. WE HAVE SOME CARDS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THEY'RE BEING REARRANGED RIGHT BEHIND ME HERE, SO AS SOON AS I GET THEM -- WHY DON'T YOU COME AND JOIN US HERE AT THE CENTER DESK SO THAT WE LEAVE THE TWO ELECTRIC TURNS OVER FOR PEOPLE -- ELECTRIC TURNS OVER FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK. THEN YOU CAN BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. LECTURNS. HERE WE GO. I HAVE TO ANNOUNCE HERE THAT IN ABOUT EIGHT MINUTES WE WILL RECESS THIS MEETING BECAUSE WE HAVE TIME CERTAIN FOR MUSIC AND PROCLAMATIONS, AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT AFTER THIS. BUT MS. STAFFA, YOU WILL HAVE TIME TO SPEAK, SO I'LL CALL YOU. AND YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. WHERE ARE YOU? THERE YOU ARE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS. LET ME START BY SAYING, FIRST OF ALL, I AM A MEMBER OF THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE, THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BICYCLE COALITION. I'M A DOWNTOWN BUSINESSMAN AND A RESIDENT AND A PEDESTRIAN. SO I REPRESENT A LOT OF DIFFERING VIEWS HERE. FROM A PERSONAL NATURE, FIRST I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE TWO-WAY STREET CONVERSION. WHEN MOBILITY IS OUR BIGGEST ISSUE AT THE MOMENT, WHY WOULD WE BE DOING SOMETHING THAT ADMITTEDLY WOULD BE SLOWING DOWN VEHICULAR MOBILITY? WHAT WE HAVE HAD IN THIS PROCESS APPEARS TWO CONFLICTING STUDIES. ONE WAS AN URBAN PLAN AND ONE WAS A TRAFFIC MOBILITY STUDY. AND IN THE WILBUR SMITH REPORT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SUBSTANTIATION IN THE FACT THAT IT IS NOT NECESSARY AND IN FACT, IT IS DETRIMENTAL. I BELIEVE THAT ALL THE THIRD-PARTY STUDIES HAVE SUBSTANTIATED THAT TWO-WAY STREETS WILL INCREASE CONGESTION, INCREASE TRAFFIC DELAYS, ADD TO POLLUTION, AND IT ELIMINATES PARKING, WHICH IS A PRIMARY CONCERN IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. YOU HAVE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL, THE BUILDING OFFICE MANAGERS ASSOCIATION, NUMEROUS DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES, INCLUDING MANY MEMBERS, INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE, AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL. THERE HAS OOMS BEEN SOME CONCERN RAISED IN OTHER STUDIES IN THE CAMPO REPORT ABOUT THE IMPACT OF POLLUTION ON THIS. PROPONENTS SAY THAT TWO-WAY STREETS WILL CALM TRAFFIC, WHICH IS BASICALLY ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING IT WILL SLOW IT DOWN. THEY SAY THAT IT WILL PROMOTE RETAIL IF YOU DO SO. WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, CONGRESS AVENUE, WHICH HAS THE WIDEST SIDEWALKS IN TOWN, AND IS A TWO-WAY STREET, DOES NOT HAVE RETAIL. I THINK FOURTH STREET IS A TWO-WAY STREET. YOU DON'T HAVE RETAIL. YOU HAVE CLUBS, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE RETAIL. AND THE SAME COULD BE SAID OF RED RIVER. ALL OF THOSE STREETS ARE EXTREMELY CONGESTED. IF YOU GO OUT THERE ON A BUSY NIGHT, YOU WILL SEE THAT TWO-WAY STREET ISSUE IS WHAT CAUSED THAT TRAFFIC TO BACK UP INTO THE INTERSECTIONS AND CREATES I BELIEVE A GREAT DEAL OF DANGER FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS TRYING TO CROSS THOSE INTERSECTIONS. ALTHOUGH THE DOWNTOWN -- THE VISION FOR DOWNTOWN IS ONE WE ALL SHARE, AND THAT IS TO MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE TO WORK AND TO LIVE, I THINK WE CAN'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE ALLOWS THOUS OF PEOPLE WHO WORK DOWNTOWN AND THE ONES THAT DRIVE TO WORK EVERYDAY AND THAT ARE THERE SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY WORK. TO DELAY THEIR COMMUTE COULD CAUSE GREAT PROBLEMS FOR INTRERZ AND BUILDING OWNERS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, AS RENTS ARE SO CHEAP IN THE OUTLYING AREAS, MANY DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES ARE LOOKING OUT OF MOVING OUT OF THE CBD. IT'S A PRETTY SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS WHEN OUR OWN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DECIDED TO MOVE OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA BECAUSE OF COST AND PARKING ISSUES. I THINK THAT SPEAKS SLADE FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AS SOMEBODY THAT LIVES ON CONGRESS AVENUE AND WALKS TO WORK AND WORKS ON THE CORNER OF NINTH AND CONGRESS, I THINK THE PROBLEMS YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT WE HAVE GOT TO ATTACK IS THE VAI GRANT SI, THE PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE BUS BENCHES, THE GENERAL APPEARANCE OF DOWNTOWN, THE UNKEMPT APPEARANCE. AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PUT IN MONEY INTO CLEANING UP THE MAJOR STREET OF AUSTIN, TEXAS AT LEAST TO THE FRONT DOOR OF OUR STATE CAPITOL AND THEN I THINK WE CAN ATTRACT SOME RETAIL AS WELL AS RESIDENTS. THE SINGLE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THE LACK OF PARKING. THERE IS NO PLACE FOR SOMEBODY TO PARK UNLESS THEY CIRCLE THE BLOCK ENDLESSLY. IF YOU MAKE THAT TWO-WAY STREETS AND HAVING TO TURN LEFT TO GET AROUND THE BLOCK AGAINST ONCOMING TRAFFIC, THAT WILL MAKE IT WORSE. EVEN IF YOU GET INTO A PARKING GARAGE, THE COST IS PROHIBITIVE FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO COME. UNTIL THAT ISSUE IS RESOLVED, WE WILL HAVE GREAT ACTIVITY IN GETTING PEOPLE TO OPEN THEIR SHOPS DOWNTOWN. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT'S RECOMMENDED IS TO CONVERT NINTH AND 10th STREET TO TWO-WAY. WELL, IF YOU CAN VISUALIZE NINTH AND 10th, THERE'S NOTHING THERE. 10th STREET IS ONE WAY RIGHT NOW TO THE WEST SIDE. AND ON NINTH STREET YOU CAN PARKING GARAGES, YOU HAVE A FEW OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THEN YOU DEAD END INTO THE THORN BERRY BUILDING WHERE NINTH STREET IS COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN. TO USE THAT AS YOUR PROTOTYPE TO SEE IF A TWO-WAY STREET PARING WOULD REALLY WORK AND THAT BEING A ONE-YEAR EXPERIMENT AS THE INITIAL PHASE IS RECOMMENDED, REALLY DOESN'T SHOW YOU ANYTHING. I THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE. I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT. AS I LOOKED AT THE MODEL THAT WAS USED IN THE STUDY, YOU WILL FIND THAT THE MODELS THAT DATED INFORMATION. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE FACT THAT THE INTEL BUILDING IS NOT GOING TO BE USED AS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED. THE CSC PROJECT IS NOT, VIGNETTE IS NOT. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE COUSINS STONE BUILDINGS. ALL OF THOSE THAT POOR INTO VARIOUS ROADWAYS. THE MODEL ALSO DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY ACCOMMODATION FOR VALET PARKING THAT MAY BE USED IN A LANE OR ROAD CUTS OR BUSES OR DELIVERY TRUCKS OR FED EX TRUCKS. I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE. IF YOU CAN INDIVIDUAL WALL LIES WHAT BRAZOS WOULD BE AS A TWO-WAY STREET, IF IN FACT LEFT TURNS ARE ALSO PROHIBITED OFF OF CONGRESS. IF YOU'RE HEADING NORTH ON CONGRESS AVENUE AND YOU NEED TO TURN LEFT ON TO SIXTH STREET, YOU WILL NOW HAVE TO TURN RIGHT ON FIFTH, LEFT ON BRAZOS, WHICH HAS NOW BECOME TWO-WAY. YOU HAVE A MAJOR BUS STOP IN THE RIGHT LANE. EVERYONE IMMEDIATE NEEDING TO TURN LEFT WILL BE IN THE OTHER ONLY LANE THAT YOU CAN TRYING TO TURN LEFT AGAINST ONCOMING TRAFFIC ON TO SIXTH STREET. RIGHT AHEAD OF YOU IS THE DRISKELL I WILL, WHICH HAS VALET PARKING IN THE MAIN ENTRANCE. SO IF YOU HAVE A BUS IN ONE LANE AND A VAN UNLOADING OR A BEER TRUCK OR FED EX TRUCK AND ONLY ONE OTHER LANE TO GO STRAIGHT OR TURN LEFT AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO TURN LEFT, ALL YOU HAVE IS A PARKING LOT. [ BUZZER SOUNDS ] WAS THAT THE --

Mayor Garcia: THAT WAS THE SIX MINUTES.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

Mayor Garcia: YOU CAN SUMMARIZE.

WELL, BASICALLY I THINK WHAT WE HAVE IS A SITUATION WHERE THIS NEEDS MUCH MORE THOUGHT. I DON'T THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BENEFIT WHAT THE GOAL IS, AND THAT IS TO MAKE IT A BETTER DOWNTOWN FOR RETAIL, A SAFER PLACE FOR PEDESTRIANS OR A SAFER PLACE FOR BICYCLISTS. SO I THINK THAT THE MOTIVATIONS ARE THERE AND THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT ARE WELL INTENTIONED, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE FINDINGS WILL SUPPORT THAT.

Mayor Garcia: DO YOU HAVE ANY DIFFICULTY WITH THE FIRST 15 ITEMS THAT MOST EVERYBODY HAS AGREED ARE CONSENT?

I'M SORRY, I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT ALL 15 WERE. I'M NOT SURE YOU WANT ME TO GET INTO THOSE, MAYOR.

Mayor Garcia: MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS SOMEBODY WITH PROVIDE YOU WITH A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION. BECAUSE THESE ARE ONES THAT EVERYBODY HAS AGREED TO.

IN GENERAL THERE ARE MANY PARTS OF THE --

Mayor Garcia: THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE NOT, BUT --

THERE ARE MANY THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF. THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT I THINK DEFINITELY NEED MORE WORK. AND THOSE WOULD BE THE PROPOSED LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKE WOI. I THINK THE RIVERSIDE CLOSING IS NOT A GOOD IDEA AT THIS TIME. I THINK PROHIBITING LEFT TURNS OFF OF LAMAR IS PROBABLY A BAD IDEA. AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT MOODILY COME TO MIND -- IMMEDIATELY COME TO MIND.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [ONE MOMENT, PLEASE, FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS]

Mayor Garcia: NOW FOR SOME MUSIC. LIBBY KIRKPATRICK. HER VOICE IS THE FIRST THING THAT MOVES YOU, FROM HER DEEP REST NANT ALTO TO -- RESONANT ALTO. WINNER OF THE BLUE GLASS AWARD FOR VOCALS AND SONG WRITING IN 1999 SHE CONTINUES TO GROW AS AN ARTIST AND SONG WRITER. SO IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT I INTRODUCE TO YOU THE VERY TALENTED LIBBY KIRK PATRICK.

LIBBY, WELCOME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HELLO. [ (music) MUSIC PLAYING (music)(music) ] ((music) SINGING (music)(music)) CINCO DE MAYO ((music) SINGING (music)(music)) ((music) SINGING (music)(music)) [ APPLAUSE ]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

Mayor Garcia: THIS IS A PROCLAMATION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS PRESENTING TO YOU. WHEREAS BE IT KNOWN THAT WHEREAS THE LOCAL MUSIC COMMUNITY MAKES MANY CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARD THE DEVELOPMENT OF AUSTIN'S SOCIAL, ECONOMIC, AND CULTURAL DIVERSITY; AND WHEREAS THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF ARTISTS FURTHER AUSTIN'S STATUS AT THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, I, GUS GARCIA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, TEXAS, DO HERE BY PROCLAIM DECEMBER THE 5th, 2002, AS LIBBY KIRKPATRICK DAY IN AUSTIN. [ APPLAUSE ] YOU CAN PUT THIS WHEREVER YOU WANT. AND IN WITNESS WHERE WAS I HAVE HERE UNTO SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE GREAT CITY OF AUSTIN TO BE AFFIXED THIS FIFTH DAY OF DECEMBER IN THE YEAR 2002. THIS SAYS NOVEMBER, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY DECEMBER. MAYBE I OUGHT TO CHANGE IT. WHY DON'T YOU TELL EVERYBODY WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO PLAY NEXT.

WELL, I'M GOING TO PLAY THIS EVENING AT FLIPNOTICS IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH. I WILL BE THERE AT 10:00. YOU CAN CHECK OUT ANY FURTHER HAPPENINGS ON THE WEBSITE, MY NAME, LIBBYKIRKPATRICK.COM. I'M AFRAID FOR FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY I'M OFF TO BRAZIL. YOU WILL HAVE TO DO WITHOUT ME. I WILL BE BACK IN FEBRUARY OR APRIL AND I WOULD LOVE TO PLAY FOR YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S AN HONOR.

THANK YOU, LIBBY. GOOD LUCK TO YOU.

THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ]

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN? I SAW HIM STANDING AROUND SOMEPLACE. CAN SOMEBODY FIND HIM? HE'S BACK THERE? COOKIE REESE? IS COOKIE HERE? DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? DO I PRESENT THIS HERE OR FRIDAY NIGHT WHEN I GO OVER THERE? [ LAUGHTER ] WELL, WE WON'T WAIT UNTIL COUNCILMEMBER WYNN GETS HERE. BUT AUSTIN, AS YOU ALL KNOW, EVERY CHRISTMAS SEASON OF THE -- THE BALLET AUSTIN PRESENTS THE NUTCRACKER, THIS YEAR IS NO EXCEPTION. THEY ASKED ME TO BE MOTHER GINGER, BUT I'M AFRAID OF HEIGHTS. [ LAUGHTER ] AND I'M GOING TO -- I'M GOING TO DENY THEM THE -- THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT ME ON THOSE THINGS UP THERE. BUT I WILL BE THERE ON FRIDAY TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE PERFORMANCE. THE PROCLAMATION READS AS FOLLOWS: BE IT KNOWN WHEREAS BALLET AUSTIN'S PRODUCTION OF THE NET CRACKER IS THE LONGEST CONTINUOUS PRODUCTION OF THE HOLIDAY CLASSIC IN THE STATE OF TEXAS; AND WHEREAS THIS 40th ANNUAL PRESENTATION PROMISES TO BE EXTRA SPECIAL WITH LIVE MUSIC, HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN PERFORMING AND A STAR STUDDED CAST OF MOTHER GINGER PERFORMERS; AND WHEREAS I ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO SEE THIS SUE PERSON PERFORMANCE WHICH -- SUPERB PERFORMANCE, I, GUS GARCIA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, TEXAS DO HERE BY PROCLAIM DECEMBER THE 7th THROUGH THE 22nd AS BALLET AUSTIN'S 40th ANNUAL PRODUCTION OF THE NUTCRACKER. I PRESENT THIS TO COOKIE. AND YOU CAN TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SHOWS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ]

THANK YOU, WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT -- THAT SINCE 1962, BALLET AUSTIN HAS PERFORMED FOR ABOUT 1,400,000 CENTRAL TEXANS. WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS YEAR WILL BE NO EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE. WE WILL ALSO BE BRINGING 20,000 CHILDREN FROM OUR AREA SCHOOLS AS WE DO EACH YEAR. THAT WILL BE COMING FROM SECOND AND THIRD GRADES THROUGHOUT CENTRAL TEXAS. THEY WILL VISIT 122 122 SCHOOLS IN THE 38 SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT WILL BE BRINGING STUDENTS TO THE SPECIAL PRODUCTIONS. SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. WE APPRECIATE BEING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. IT'S A REALLY WONDERFUL THING TO -- TO BE STEWARDS OF AUSTIN'S HOLIDAY TRADITION AND I THINK THAT WE ARE SO EXCITED TO HAVE MAYOR GARCIA BE WITH US TOMORROW NIGHT AS THE CURTAIN GOES UP. BALLET AUSTIN HAS A TRADITION, THAT IS THAT EVERY PRODUCTION THAT WE BRING TO AUSTIN, THE VERY FIRST PERFORMANCE WE GIVE IS A GIFT TO OUR CITY. TOMORROW WILL BE NO EXCEPTION. TOMORROW NIGHT WE WILL INVITE -- WE HAVE THE CLIENTS OF 60 AREA NON-PROFITS THAT WILL COME AS OUR HONORED GUESTS AND MAYOR GARCIA WILL HELP US WELCOME THESE INDIVIDUALS, THEY ARE ALL IN THE SITUATION UNITED BY HUNGER, THEY ARE ALL CLIENTS OF CAPITAL AREA FOOD BANK. SO IT'S A -- WE WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO BRING 10,000 PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO THE BALLET IN THIS WAY. PEOPLE THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD NOT OTHERWISE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ARTS. WE ARE VERY EXCITED. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR TAKING JUST A MOMENT TO -- TO JOIN WITH US IN THIS TIME OF ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION AND WE ARE VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ]

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. WHY DON'T WE PUT THEM OVER THERE. THIS -- THIS PAST FEW MONTHS AUSTIN HAS BEEN READING A BOOK THAT WAS SELECTED BY THE MAYOR'S BOOK CLUB AND THE PEOPLE IN THE MAYOR'S BOOK CLUB ARE ASSEMBLING HERE BEHIND ME. THIS WAS AN EFFORT TO -- TO PLACE IMPORTANCE IN THE ART OF READING, SO MANY TIMES PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WATCH TOO MUCH TV AND WE DON'T READ ENOUGH BOOKS. AND SO I THINK IT WAS THE MAYOR OF SEATTLE THAT FIRST CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF SELECTING ONE BOOK, HAVING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY READ IT AND THEN HAVE DISCUSSION GROUPS. THE MAYOR OF CHICAGO, RICHARD DALY, SELECTED TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD, THAT WAS READ BY THE WHOLE CITY OF CHICAGO. HERE IN AUSTIN, A COMMITTEE OF PEOPLE SELECTED BLESS ME ULTIMA, BUT A NEW MEXICO AUTHOR. -- BY A NEW MEXICO AUTHOR. WE ALL READ IT. WE HAD DISCUSSIONS IN THE LIBRARIES. AND IT WAS -- THAT CULMINATED IN A VISIT OF THE AUTHOR TO AUSTIN AND A WONDERFUL MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH HIM AT FIESTA GARDENS. SO TODAY I'M PRESENTING A PROCLAMATION, WELL, CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION TO FOLKS THAT PARTICIPATED IN MAKING THIS EFFORT A REAL SUCCESS. AND THEY WILL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. [INAUDIBLE - NO MIC] THE CERTIFICATE READS AS FOLLOWS: FOR ALL OF HIS HARD WORK ON THE FIRST EVER MAYOR'S BOOK CLUB IN AUSTIN, WHICH BROUGHT AUSTINITES TOGETHER TO -- AND GOT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TALKING ABOUT THEIR SHARED EXPERIENCE, TOM ALTER IS DESERVING THE PUBLIC ACCLAIM AND RECOGNITION. WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORT AND DEDICATION THAT MADE THIS YEAR'S WHILE AUSTIN READS THE SAME BOOK, READING CAMPAIGN, SUCH A READING SUCCESS. I THINK WE HAD 3,000 BOOKS CHECKED OUT, 3,000 COPIES OF THE BOOK CHECKED OUT OF THE LIBRARY. THIS IS PRESENTED THE 5th DAY OF DECEMBER IN THE YEAR 2002, SIGNED BY ME. TOM?

THANK YOU.

THE SAME CERTIFICATE TO CINDY BENO. AND DAVID -- MY HANDS ARE -- ARE COLD, SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. DAVID FAULKNER. FLORES MANGES. PATRICIA [INAUDIBLE] TOM MOREMORAN. BRENDA -- TOM MORAN, BRAND DID A BRANCH. AND EVE [INAUDIBLE] EVE IS NOT HERE. OKAY.

AND EVAN, WE WOULD LIKE TO ESPECIALLY THANKS. HE'S A -- THE DIRECTOR, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS HUMANITIES INSTITUTE. WITHOUT THEIR COOPERATION AND HELP IN PARTICIPATION IN THIS EFFORT, WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT WITH ALL OF THE DISCUSSION LEADERS THAT THEY CONTRIBUTED TO THE -- TO THE PROJECT THIS LAST FALL. WE REALLY ENJOYED THIS PROJECT AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT DID BECOME KNOWN AS THE MAYOR'S READING CLUB. SO -- SO THE MAYOR'S NAME IS -- IS RIGHT UP THERE WITH OPRAH'S IN TERMS OF -- [ LAUGHTER ] -- INSPIRING ALL OF OUR INTERESTS IN READING. WITHOUT HIS PARTICIPATION, WITHOUT HIS VARIOUS APPEARANCES AT THE BOOK STORES, BARNES & NOBLES, BORDERS, BOOK PEOPLE, WE COULD NOT HAVE GENERATED THE ENTHUSIASM THAT THIS PROJECT DID OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. WE ARE ALREADY ABOUT GETTING THE SELECTION FOR NEXT YEAR. THE MAYOR WANTED US TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT. SO WE HAVE -- WE HAVE ASKED EACH OF OUR BRANCHES TO SUGGEST A PERSON, AN AVID READER. WE HAVE A LIST OF THOSE FOLKS, WE ARE GOING TO GET THEM TOGETHER AND HAVE THEM NARROW DOWN TITLES FOR US, DOWN TO ABOUT THREE TITLES AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO -- AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, ASK THE -- EVERYONE IF THEY WILL GIVE US THEIR OPINION ABOUT THOSE TITLES. SO WE ARE INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY IN THAT. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE AN ANNUAL PROJECT THAT CAN EXCITE THE COMMUNITY IN READING AND -- NOT ONLY READING BUT A COMMON CONVERSATION ABOUT READING. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. [ APPLAUSE ] LET ME -- LIKE EVERY GOOD ROMAN CATHOLIC HAS A MAKE CONFESSIONS ONE OF THE THINGS TAKE INTERESTED ME ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE WAS THAT I WAS ONE OF THOSE GUYS THAT DID NOT LEARN HOW TO READ EARLY ON IN SCHOOL. AND WHEN I FINISHED MY DEGREE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AND TRIED TO ENTER GRADUATE SCHOOL, I COULDN'T PASS THE READING TEST. THEY TOLD ME THAT I HAD TO TAKE A READING COURSE. THAT'S EMBARRASSING, READING IS TAKEN IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, NOT AFTER FOUR YEARS OF COLLEGE. BUT I FOUND OUT THAT PEOPLE CAN LEARN HOW TO READ AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO READ. SO -- SO I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED AND PARTICULARLY THE MESSAGE THAT WE SENT TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE. THAT PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY CARE ABOUT READING. SO I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE HERE, PLUS MANY MORE. WE HAVE A STACK OF CERTIFICATES FOR PEOPLE THAT ALSO CONTRIBUTED. TOM IS RIGHT, THEY WILL BE WORKING. IF YOU HAVE A BOOK THAT YOU THINK EVERYBODY IN AUSTIN OUGHT TO READ, THERE'S AN E-MAIL ADDRESS AT THE LIBRARY OR GO TO THE BRANCH LIBRARY, TELL YOUR LIBRARIAN THERE WHAT YOU THINK WE OUGHT TO READ AND THE COMMITTEE WILL CONSIDER IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ALL OF YOU, FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU DID. THE COMMUNITY OWES YOU A GREAT DEBT OF GRATITUDE FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] AND COUNCILMEMBER DARYL SLUSHER WILL MAKE THE LAST PRESENTATION.

Slusher: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. WELL, THE TEAM MIGHT COME UP HERE, YOU CAN COME UP HYPED ME AS I CALL YOUR NAME. BUT TODAY WE ARE GOING TO HONOR THE -- THE TEXAS HEAT TENNIS TEAM YOUTH TENNIS TEAM FROM AUSTIN, WE ARE REALLY PROUD OF THEM. THESE ARE KIDS THAT PLAY ON OUR PUBLIC COURTS, OUR PUBLIC TENNIS COURTS AND THEY WENT AND WON THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP, THEY WON THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP FROM OUR STARTING OUT FROM OUR PUBLIC TENNIS COURTS IN AUSTIN. SO GIVE THEM ALL A HAND JUST TO START WITH. [ APPLAUSE ] AND THEN THEY WENT TO THE NATIONAL JUNIOR OLYMPICS AND FINISHED SECOND. WON THE SILVER MEDAL. [ APPLAUSE ] I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP EMPHASIZING THAT THEY PLAY ON OUR PUBLIC TENNIS COURTS HERE IN AUSTIN. I'M REALLY PROUD OF THEM FOR THAT. I WANT TO CALL SOME OF THE KIDS WEREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING, BUT I'M GOING TO CALL THEM UP. ONE OF THE -- ONE -- I THINK THE COACH IS GOING TO -- TO SAY A FEW WORDS. KATE BONNER, SHE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT. WE WILL PUT THIS ASIDE FOR HER. JOHN BRICKLEY. [ APPLAUSE ] CHARLES DAWNG. I THINK -- STEVE DIMLER. [ APPLAUSE ] KIM THANG. [ APPLAUSE ] I CAN'T READ IT ON THIS ONE. NATE LANNINGHAM. [ APPLAUSE ] GARY PLEUTA. HE'S NOT HERE. WE WILL PUT THIS ONE ASIDE. JENNA RICHTER. [ APPLAUSE ] AND THIS ONE IS NOT HERE, ALEXIS RUSH ROYAL COULDN'T BE HERE WITH US. AND NOW WE ARE DOWN TO THE COACHES. ELLORY Mc CLANAH AND ALSO COACH BRYAN SMITHARD. [ APPLAUSE ] AND WE WILL LET -- I THINK COACH SMITHARD, EITHER -- ANY ONE OF YOU THAT WANTS TO SAY A FEW WORDS. BUT I KNOW THE COACH IS GOING TO SAY A FEW WORDS, COME ON UP.

FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANKS TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WITHOUT THE PROGRAMS IMPLEMENTED THERE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO IMPACT THESE KIDS' LIVES THE WAY WE DO. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT TENNIS ONLY. IT'S REALLY NOT. ALSO I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO LIZ WATSON, SHE WAS OUR FUNDRAISER CHAIR. I KNOW A LOT OF YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH HER AROUND HERE. OH, I COULD GO ON AND ON. ALSO I WANTED TO SAY WE COMPETE ODD A STATE-WIDE LEVEL -- COMPETED ON A STATE-WIDE LEVEL AGAINST 400 OTHER TEAMS ON THE REGIONAL NATIONAL LEVEL AGAINST 1600 OTHER TEAMS, AND TO GET SECOND PLACE IS QUITE PHENOMENAL AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE KIDS. LET'S ALL HAVE ANOTHER HAND FOR THE KIDS. [ APPLAUSE ] THAT'S ABOUT IT, THANKS A LOT. [ APPLAUSE ] [ONE MOMENT PLEASE FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS]

Slusher: I KNOW THERE'S MASON RUSH ROYAL WAS HERE, HIS SISTER IS ON THE TEAM, SHE WASN'T ACCIDENT BE HERE TONIGHT, IED IN HE'S THE TEAM'S STRONGEST SUPPORTER. WENT TO ALL OF THE GAMES, HE'S GOING TO ACCEPT ON BEHALF OF THE KIDS WHO WEREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE. [ APPLAUSE ] [ONE MOMENT PLEASE FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS] [ APPLAUSE ]

Mayor Garcia: HELLO, EVERYBODY. IF YOU WOULD GIVE ME YOUR ATTENTION FOR JUST A MINUTE. IS MR. RON PAINTER HERE? RON PAINTER? [GAVEL SOUNDS]. IS MR. RON PAINTER IN THE ROOM? OKAY. HERE'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO. WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT CAN TAKE FIVE MINUTES. IT'S A 6:00 O'CLOCK TIME CERTAIN ITEM. WE CAN FINISH IT SO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE FOR THAT ONE WITH GO HOME. AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THE 5:00 O'CLOCK TIME CERTAIN. AND THE ITEM IS -- I NEED ONE MORE COUNCILMEMBER. RON? WE'RE GOING TO BE CALLING ON YOU IN JUST A MINUTE. THERE BEING A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL IN THE CHAMBERS, I'M GOING TO CALL BACK TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL FOR THURSDAY, DECEMBER THE 5TH. OKAY. AND LIKE I INDICATED, THERE IS ONE ITEM THAT ONLY HAS ONE SPEAKER. IT'S THE NUMBER 67, TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AUSTIN DOWNTOWN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT 2003 ASSESSMENTS AND CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLL AND LEVEEING ASSESSMENTS. THE APPROVED 2003 ASSESSMENT RATE IS 10 CENTS PER 100-DOLLAR VALUATION AND IS ESTIMATED TO PRODUCE 1,422,000 AT A 96% COLLECTION RATE. ACTUALLY, THE SPEAKER THAT WE HAVE ON THIS ITEM SIGNED UP FOR ITEM 14, WHICH IS A RELATED ITEM. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK, RON? DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS -- ON 67 OR 14? THEY'RE RELATED.

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Mayor Garcia: WHAT?

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Mayor Garcia: OKAY. NO, IT'S NOT THE NOISE ORDINANCE. OKAY. MR. PRAEDE REVMENT?

MAYOR, YOU DID A GOOD JOB OF SUMMARIZING THERE, SO I CAN BE VERY BRIEF. YOU JUST NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER 67, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE '03 ASSESSMENT RATE FOR THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. AFTER WILL PUBLIC HEARING YOU NEED TO CONSIDER ITEM NUMBER 14, WHICH IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO ACCEPT THE PID FUNDS. I BELIEVE MR. BETS OF THE DAA HAS A BRIEF COMMENT HE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AND THEN WE'D BE PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. MR. CHARLES BETTS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. I HAVE A BRIEF STATEMENT. I WANT TO STATE THAT THE PROPERTY IN THE DISTRICT IS BENEFITTED BY THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE ASSESSMENT REVENUE AND THAT EXEMPTIONS FROM ASSESSMENT EXCLUDES SMALLER PROPERTIES THAT DON'T RECEIVE A BENEFIT CORRESPONDING TO WHAT THEY WOULD PAY TO JUSTIFY AN ASSESSMENT WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR WORKING PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNSELED AND WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN. I MAY ADD MR. WADE COOPER, OUR CURRENT CHAIR, IS WITH US TODAY ALSO.

Mayor Garcia: WELCOME.

THANK YOU. OKAY. RON PAINTER. NO? SOMEBODY SEEND YOU UP FOR -- SIGNED YOU UP FOR IT AND SAID YOU WERE IN FAVOR OF. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

Wynn: SO MOVE.

Mayor Garcia: MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, SECONDED BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

Mayor Garcia: OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES. NOW, ITEM 14 IS THE ACTION ITEM TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND -- ACTUALLY TO AMEND ORDINANCE 020901-01 FOR THE 2002-2003 OPERATING BUDGET. AND THE AMOUNTS ARE -- WE READ THEM PREVIOUSLY. AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THAT ITEM.

Wynn: MOVE APPROVAL, MAYOR.

Mayor Garcia: MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS.

MAYOR, EXCUSE ME, DAVID BOYD, SIS SENT CITY ATTORNEY. WE ALSO NEED TO VOIGT ON THE ORDINANCE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS FOR ITEM 67. THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO ORDINANCES FOR APPROVAL.

Wynn: MAYOR, THE MOTION WAS ACTUALLY MOTIONS 14 AND 67.

Mayor Garcia: 14 AND 67, BOTH. ON ALL THEE READINGS. FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE?

AYE.

Mayor Garcia: OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES. THAT'S ITEM 67. AND WE'RE BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 66. DAVID KRUEGER. WELCOME, SIR.

WELCOME TO YOU. I APPRECIATE BEING HERE. I THANK THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL FOLKS FOR LETTING US COME HERE TO SPEAK TONIGHT. MY NAME IS DAVID KRUEGER. I'M THE OWNER OF KRUEGER JEWELLERS AT EIGHTH AND CONGRESS. IT'S A STORE THAT MY FATHER OPENED IN 1939 AND WE'VE BEEN IN THE SAME LOCATION FOR THE LAST 63 YEARS AND HAVE WEATHERED THE CHANGES IN DOWNTOWN, INCLUDING ECONOMIC UP TURN, DOWNTURN, SIDEWAYS TURN, AND THE STREET IMPROVEMENT ON CONGRESS AVENUE, THE VARIOUS DIGGING UP OF CONGRESS AVENUE FROM TIME TO TIME, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE STILL HERE. ONE OF MY BIG CLAIMS TO FAME IS THAT I'M THE PRESIDENT AND MOST IMPORTANT MEMBER OF THE KRUEGER JEWELRY DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ASSOCIATION AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE HERE BEFORE US TONIGHT IS THE RESULT OF THE EFFORTS OF TWO CONTRADICTORY VISIONS FOR DOWNTOWN. ON THE ONE HAND THE URBAN PLANNERS WHO PUT FORTH THE GREAT STREETS PROPOSAL, THEIR MAIN PROPOSAL IN PART IS TO INCREASE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE ON DOWNTOWN STREETS AT THE EXPENSE OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC. FURTHER, THEY CONCEDE THAT MANY OF THEIR PROPOSALS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED ON BOTH ONE-WAY AND TWO-WAY STREETS. THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS PROPOSAL COMES FROM THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS TO WHOM THE CITY OF AUSTIN PAID OVER A MILLION DOLLARS WHO WERE CHARGED BY THE CITY WITH DETERMINING THE EFFECTS OF THE CHANGES THE URBAN PLANNERS SOUGHT. HAVING COMPLETED THEIR CHARGE BY THE CITY, THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS CAME UP WITH CONCLUSIONS THAT ACCORDING TO SOME ARE DISTRICTTORY TO WHAT THE CITY STAFF AND THE URBAN PLANNERS RECOMMENDED. AMONG THESE CONCLUSIONS BY TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS ARE THAT AUSTIN CAN BE MADE MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY WITHOUT CONVERTING TO TWO-WAY STREETS AND THAT ELIMINATING LEFT TURN LANES WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, AND THOSE LEFT TURN LANE ELIMINATIONS WOULD BE ON CONGRESS AND LAMAR. THIS ENTIRE DISCUSSION IS A SAD COMMENTARY ON THE FUTURE OF DOWNTOWN AUSTIN.

Mayor Garcia: LET ME INTERRUPT YOU JUST A MINUTE. IF YOU COULD GIVE HIM AN ADDITIONAL SIX MINUTES, WHICH WOULD MAKE HIS TOTAL SEVEN MINUTES. OKAY.

I DO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE CONCLUSIONS OF THIS REPORT. AT THE HEART OF THE UNBAN PLANNERS ASSUMPTION IS THAT VEHICULAR TRAFFIC WILL SOMEHOW GO AWAY IF WE BUILD NARROWER STREETS, DECREASE PARKING AND IMPEDE MOVEMENT IN DOWNTOWN AREA. THEY PUT CAR TRAFFIC AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PILE IN TERMS OF THEIR TRANSPORTATION HIERARCHY. THEY ASSUME A BUSTLING RETAIL DOWNTOWN, BUT THERE IS NO PLAN ANYWHERE IN THEIR OFFERING TO SUGGEST HOW WE WILL SUDDENLY HAVE STREETS FULL OF SHOPS, ENGEORGED WITH SHOPPERS, EXCEPT FOR SECOND STREET. HERE THE CITY PLANS TO SEND SEVERAL MILLION TAX DOLLARS TO CONVERT THE OBSCURE STREET TO A RETAIL CENTER. ANOTHER SAD TRUTH IS THE CITY'S INABILITY TO MAINTAIN THE CBD'S STREET AMENITIES. I CURRENTLY HAVE ONE TO THREE PEOPLE SLEEPING IN MY LOB F.B.I. NIGHTLY. THE PLANTER IN MY STORE LOOKS LIKE A REFUGEE FROM A COMPOST HERE. THE TREES ON CONGRESS AVENUE HAVE NEVER BEEN PRUNED SINCE 1981. THE URBAN PLANNER'S IDEAS NEVER INCREASES THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES INHERENT IN THEIR PLAN NOR THE IMPACT ON E.M.S. AND FIRE RESPONSE. BUT I TRY TO BE SOLUTION ORIENTED SO HERE ARE MY IDEAS FOR DREEING THE FUTURE OF DOWNTOWN. ADD A SIGNALIZATION COMPONENT ON CONGRESS AVENUE, MOVE ALL THE BUS TRAFFIC, AND I MEAN ALL THE BUS TRAFFIC TO BRAZOS AND COLORADO, LEAVING BOTH STREETS ONE-WAY. BUILD UNDERPASSES AT FIFTH AND SIXTH AND LAMAR. BUILD INCENTIVES FOR STREET LEVEL RETAIL AND DIRECT MORE ATTENTION TO MAINTAINING SIDEWALK AND STREET LEVEL AMENITIES ALREADY IN PLACE. THIS IS AN I WILL CONCEIVED PLAN THAT WILL COST AUSTIN TAXPAYERS ACCORDING TO THE CITY REPORT $17 MILLION TO IMPLEMENT WITH NO ASSURANCE OF ITS EFFICACY. IF WE PROCEED AND IT FAILS TO PRODUCE THE DESIRED RESULTS, NOT ONLY WILL IT BE COSTLY TO REVERSE, BUT IT WILL BE THE LEGACY OF THE COUNCIL THAT INSTITUTED THIS FI AS CO-. -- FEE AS CO-. I SENT AROUND A LETTER TO A LOT OF THE MERCHANTS DOWNTOWN AND ASKED THEM TO SIGN IT AND I THINK I GOT IN THE DAY AND A HALF THAT I TOOK IT AROUND I DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY REFUSE TO SIGN IT. IT'S DATED NOVEMBER EIGHTH. AND IT IS A LIST OF FACTS THAT I HAVE GLEANED FROM READING AND REREADING THE STUDY THAT WAS ULTIMATELY PRESENTED TO THE CITY. THESE ARE FACTS. THIS IS NO PLAN IN PLACE TO CHANGE NINTH STREET TO TWO-WAY IN THE CONVERSION. THERE IS NO PLAN IN PLACE TO BRING MORE RETAIL DOWNTOWN. THERE IS NO PLAN IN PLACE TO ACCOMMODATE THE INCREASE IN MAINTENANCE FOR THE ADDED STREET SCAPE. NO STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE ON THE THROUGH TRAFFIC DOWNTOWN. WHILE GREAT STREETS ARE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, IT IS A FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF PEDESTRIANS ARRIVE AT THE IS CBD BY CAR, ELIMINATING TURN LANES WILL ACCORDING TO THE WILBUR SMITH STUDY EXACERBATE TRAFFIC MOVEMENT. TWO-WAY STREETS WILL CREATE MORE EMISSIONS, IT WILL CREATE PEAK DELAY IN SOME AREAS BY 207%, TWO-WAY STREETS CREATE LESS VEHICULAR CAPACITY. AND THIS IS A QUOTE FROM THE WILBUR SMITH STUDY. DOWNTOWN AUSTIN CAN BE MADE MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY WITHOUT CONVERTING ONE WAY STREETS TO TWO-WAY OPERATION. THIS IS ALSO A QUOTE, THE DAMP CONSULTANT HAS REVIEWED THE OBJECTIVES AND PROPOSALS OF THE GSMP, THE GREAT STREETS MASTER PROGRAM, AND STRONGLY DISAGREES THAT IT IS NECESSARY TO CONVERT ONE WAY STREETS, ESPECIALLY THOSE SERVES AS PRIMARY CORRIDORS TO DOWNTOWN, TO TWO-WAY STREETS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THESE DPOALZ. FACT, NO ONE -- SORRY. NO ONLINE SURVEY HAS BEEN DONE BY THE CITY TO GET THE INPUT OF THE WORKERS DOWNTOWN. I WROTE ON LETTER TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND A FEW OF THE STAFF AND I JUST REAL QUICK, THERE'S A COUPLE OF INTERESTING THINGS HERE. THE PERSON THAT RESPONDED TO ME WAS MR. AUSTAN LIBRACH, WHO IS SEATED HERE. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED WAS WHAT PLAN IS IN PLACE FOR ASSESSING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE CHANGES TO TWO-WAY STREETS DOWNTOWN. MR. LIBRACH, IN PART HIS ANSWER WAS THE EVALUATION MEASURES WOULD BE DEVELOPED WITH THE ADVICE AND CONSENT OF THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY. WE'LL CHANGE THE STREETS FIRST AND THEN WE'LL ASK PEOPLE IF THEIR WORKING RATHER THAN ASKING THE PEOPLE WHAT DO THEY THINK ABOUT IT AND THEN MAYBE DOING THE STUDY. I MEAN, I HAVE NOT TALKED TO A SINGLE MERCHANT OR A SINGLE PERSON DOING BUSINESS DOWNTOWN THAT WAS EVER CONSULTED. NOW, THERE WERE THREE PUBLIC MEETINGS, BUT I CANNOT REMEMBER AND I DON'T HAVE A GREAT MEMORY, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER HEARING ANYTHING ABOUT A PUBLIC MEETING. ANOTHER QUESTION I ASKED IS WHAT PLAN IS IN PLACE FOR BRINGING MORE STREET LEVEL RETAIL DOWNTOWN? HIS ANSWER, THE SECOND STREET RETAIL DISTRICT, OKAY, IS PROPOSED FOR THE SIX-BLOCK AREA SURROUNDING THE NEW CITY HALL. THE CITY HAS PROVIDED INCENTIVES TO PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. THEN HE GOES ON TO SAY, THE SMART GROWTH MATRIX INCENTIVE PROGRAM ALSO ENCOURAGES STREET LEVEL RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL USES. HE GOES ON TO SAY, THIS PROGRAM HAS RESULTED IN NEW STREET LEVEL RETAIL SPACE, SPACE, NOT STORES, SPACE, AND A NUMBER OF PROJECTS DOWNTOWN. YEAH, THEY'RE SPACES. THERE'S NOBODY IN THOSE SPACES, BUT THEY'VE GOT THE SPACES. HE ALSO SAYS THAT THERE'S AN RFQ, A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR A CONSULTANT, A CONSULTANT, TO DEVELOP A DOWNTOWN RETAIL DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY. WELL, I GUESS MY QUESTION TO MR. LIBRACH IS WHY DIDN'T WE GET A RETAIL CONSULTANT 10 YEARS AGO AND GET STREET LEVEL RETAIL IN PLACE BEFORE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT TWO-WAY STREETS. THE ASSUMPTION HERE IS ACCORDING TO ALL THIS INFORMATION IS THAT WE PUT IN THE TWO-WAY STREETS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE RETAIL. I MEAN, I MEAN, I'VE ONLY BEEN IN RETAIL 33 YEARS AND I DON'T REALLY GET THAT. I'M ON A TWO-WAY STREET THAT HAS THE WIDEST SIDEWALKS IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN AND THERE IS NO RETAIL DOWNTOWN. THERE IS NO RETAIL DOWNTOWN. AND UNTIL THE CITY DOES SOMETHING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME DOWNTOWN, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY. ANOTHER QUESTION I ASKED HIM IS WHILE IT MAY BE TRUE THAT SOME BUILDING OWNERS DOWNTOWN MAY BE IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES, WHAT INPUT HAVE YOU RECEIVED FROM THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF WORKERS WHO HAPPEN TO BE VOTERS WHO WORK IN THOSE BUILDINGS AND WILL BE IMPACTED MOST DIRECTLY? AND HE SAYS TO ME, LAST SUMMER THE CITY ADDED TO ITS WEBSITE A SURVEY ON DOWNTOWN MOBILITY. I WOULD NOT HAVE SEEN THAT HAD JANIS CARTWRIGHT NOT FORWARDED ME THE -- WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, THE SWITCH OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT TO GET ON TO THAT WEBSITE. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT EXISTED. THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, WHAT I WOULD URGE THE COUNCIL TO DO IS THE FOLLOWING: THERE ARE FOUR THINGS ON HERE ON THIS LIST OF 15. I'M NOT ADDRESSING THE OTHER 10 OR WHATEVER IT IS. THERE'S FOUR THINGS ON HERE THAT -- [ BUZZER SOUNDS ] IS THAT MY SEVEN MINUTES? THAT'S MY NINE MINUTES. OKAY. SO I SHOULD SHUT UP? [ LAUGHTER ] JUST REAL QUICK, LET ME GO OVER THE FOUR THINGS REAL QUICK. THERE'S FOUR THINGS ON HERE. THE NORTH TO WEST AND SOUTHEAST DUAL TURN LANES AT LAMAR AND BARTON SPRINGS ROAD, THE EAST RIGHT TURN WAY BAY FROM LAMAR TO SANDRA MURAIDA WAY, EXTEND WEST AVENUE AND EXTEND THIRD STREET. OTHER THAN THAT THE TWO-WAY STREET CONVERSION IS GOING TO BE A TOTAL AND UTTER DISASTER. AND I THINK EVERYBODY WILL RUE THE DAY THAT YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, MR. KRUEGER.

Goodman: MAYOR, LET ME ASK HIM A QUESTION QUICKLY ABOUT SOMETHING HE SAID. AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID, JUST THE QUOTE. YOU SAID, UNTIL THE CITY DOES SOMETHING TO BRING BLANK DOWNTOWN.

STREET LEVEL RETAIL.

Goodman: THANKS.

Mayor Garcia: SARAH ANDRE? AND FOLLOWING MS. ANDRE IS JULIE FITCH, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT IS IN FAVOR OF. CELIA TEMPLE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT IS IN FAVOR OF. ALICIA VARGAS STNT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT IS IN FAVOR OF. AND AFTER THAT IS MR. DAVID TRIPOLI. IS HE HERE? OKAY. YOU'LL BE NEXT. WELCOME.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I'LL BE BRIEF. MY NAME IS SARAH ANDRE AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SCENIC AUSTIN. IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR WE PASSED A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED NEAR TERM CHANGES. ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS I'D LIKE TO READ THIS RESOLUTION FOR YOU. AS AN IMPORTANT STEP TOWARDS ACCOMPLISHING THE GOALS OF IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND VISUAL ENVIRONMENT WITHIN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN, SCENIC AUSTIN SUPPORTS THE CITY OF AUSTIN STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR NEAR TERM CHANGES IN DOWNTOWN STREETS. SCENIC AUSTIN RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PLAN AND FLOWING VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND MAKING THE AREA MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY FOR DOWNTOWN'S LONG-TERM VIABILITY. WE URGE THE CITY TO COMPLETE THIS PHASE WHILE MAINTAINING THE LONG-TERM VISION OF THE GREAT STREETS MASTER PLAN IN CREATING TREE-LINED 18-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALKS AND A TWO-WAY CESAR CHAVEZ GRAND BOULEVARD. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, MS. ANDRE. MR. TRIP POELY. TRIPOLI. AFTER HIM IS REED ROCKFORD, SAMANTHA CRAVEN. THEY HAVE GIVEN YOU THREE MINUTES, SO YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF 12 MINUTES. YOU DON'T NEED TO USE THEM, THOUGH. [ LAUGHTER ]

YOU'RE SAYING THAT TO A MAN WHO GIVE 12 MINUTES TO THE -- [ INAUDIBLE ] MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, HAVE THIS FORUM WITH CONSTITUENT AND HOPEFULLY COME TO SOLUTIONS AND RESOLUTIONS. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE AUSTIN WAREHOUSE ASSOCIATION. WE'RE A MEMBERSHIP THAT'S 30 STRONG. WE REPRESENT ABOUT $40 MILLION OF THE SALES TAX REVENUES AND WE ALSO REPRESENT ABOUT 1200 EMPLOYEES THAT WORK WITHIN THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY WE'RE AGAINST GREAT STREETS PROPOSALS, WE'RE AGAINST ISSUES. WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE ELEMENTS. I DID PUT TOGETHER A LETTER AND HAD THE OCCASION TO MEET AUSTAN LIBRACH AND RECAP THAT MEETING IN A LETTER. MAYBE YOU HAVE COPIES OF IT, SO I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THE POINTS, BEING 15 POINTS THAT ARE HERE. BUT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR PATRONS. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT COLORADO BECOMING A TWO-WAY STREET. THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS WITH THE CONVERSIONS THAT WE HAVE. RIGHT NOW COLORADO HAPPENS TO BE ONE WAY ON THE SECTION HEADING TWO FOURTH AND THEN IT GOES ONE WAY THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION FROM FOURTH. THERE'S A KNOT SO CON GREW ENT FLOW OF A FOUR-WAY STOP THERE. THE ONE WAY THAT IT FLOWS NOW HEADING SOUTH WORKS AS THE VALET STOP TO THE PATRONS GOING TO THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT. THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT REALLY REPRESENTS A LOT OF THE FLAVORS OF AUSTIN. WE TALK ABOUT CONVENTION BUREAU WANTS TO BRING BUSINESS INTO THE CITY. THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT IS A PLACE WHERE THERE'S GREAT RESTAURANTS, WONDERFUL LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AND IT'S A VIABLE EXISTENCE OF RETAIL ACTIVITY FROM THE ENTERTAINMENT COMPONENT. A LOT OF CARS AND OUR PATRONS THAT COME TO THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT AREN'T NECESSARILY JUST FROM DOWNTOWN, THEY COME IN OFF THIS STREET, THEY TURN RIGHT ON COLORADO, AND THOSE CARS DO BACK UP. THE FLOW OF ACTIVITY IS PRETTY STRONG. AND OUR FEAR IS THAT AS THOSE CARS BACK UP, IF COLORADO IS TWO-WAY, WE WOULD HAVE CAR DOORS AND VALETS AND PATRONS STEPPING OUT FROM THEIR DRIVER'S SEAT ON TO ONCOMING TRAFFIC. THAT CONCERNS US FROM THE SAFETY STANDPOINT. WE HAVE BUSINESSES ON EITHER SIDE OF COLORADO. THERE'S STRATEGIC VALET POINTS SO THAT CARS WITH FLOW, YOU CAN'T HAVE A VALET STAND AT EACH INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS OR CARS WON'T FLOW. THERE IS NO VALET ON FOURTH BECAUSE THE WAY THAT FLOWS NOW, ALL CARS HAVE TO DUMP ON FOURTH. WHEN YOU HIT THAT STOP YOU HAVE TO TO GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. SO OUR PROPOSAL IS THAT COLORADO STAY ONE WAY AND STAY ONE WAY ALL THE WAY TO CESAR CHAVEZ. THAT WAY WHEN WE'RE PARKING CARS AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING OUT OF THEIR CARS AND NOT COMING ACROSS TWO-WAY TRAFFIC, WE DON'T HAVE THE VALETS COMING ACROSS TWO-WAY TRAFFIC. AND THE LOTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR PARKING, WHICH WE AGREE WITH RETAIL PARKING AND ACCESSIBILITY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, THE LOTS ARE BEING USED, THE PATRONS WON'T HAVE TO CROSS AGAINST TWO-WAY TRAFFIC. THAT'S A CONCERN FOR US. ANOTHER CONCERN IS THE PLAN ITSELF, IS THERE A LONG-TERM RANGE PLAN FOR PARKING FOR THE VIABILITY OF DOWNTOWN? WHEN WE MET WITH AUSTAN AND PAUL, I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD BE IN THE PARKING BUSINESS. THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA. THERE'S PLENTY OF THINGS THE CITY CAN BE INVOLVED IN; HOWEVER, IS THERE A PROCESS WHERE PARKING CAN BE SLATED GOING FORWARD. IF SOMEBODY TAKES WHAT IS NOW SURFACE PARKING OF 100 SPOTS AND BUILDS A BUILDING ON IT AND THAT BUILDING MAY REQUIRE 200 SPOTS, IS IT POSSIBLE, WE SUGGEST, THAT THE CITY THEN LEGISLATE THAT THEY BUILD 300 PARKING SPACES TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE DISPLACED PARKING THAT IS GOING TO BE IN EXISTENCE? WE ALSO ASK THAT POSSIBLY THE CITY COULD HELP, AND WE'VE MET WITH THE PEOPLE AT THE STATE HOBBY BUILDING AT FOURTH AND LAVACA ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. WE'VE OFFERED TO PAY FOR SECURITY AND CLEANUP. WHEN WE SAY CLEANUP, NOT OURSELVES AND OUR BUS BOYS GOING OUT THERE AND CLEANING THEIR PARKING GARAGE, BUT TO PAY UP FOR THE CLEANUP AND SECURITY A, AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD NO AS FAR AS THAT PARKING GARAGE RIGHT AT FOURTH AND LAVACA THAT WOULD SERVICE THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT OF NOT BEING USED. THAT'S A CONCERN FOR US WITHIN THIS PLAN. IS THE PLAN GOING TO HAVE PARKING. DAVID MENTIONED RETAIL, AND I BELIEVE THAT RETAIL FOLLOWS THE POPULOUS. AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE MOBILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY AND PARKING FOR THE POPULOUS IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. ANOTHER CONCERN IS THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY. IT'S BEEN QUOTED THAT WE'RE AGAINST THE BIKEWAY. PEOPLE SAY WE'RE AGAINST GREAT STREETS. WE'RE NOT AGAINST GREAT STREETS. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ARGUE WITH WIDER SIDEWALKS, TREES, PARK BENCHES AND FRIENDLY PEDESTRIANS. THOSE ARE OUR PATRONS. WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS, WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT ONE-WAY STREETS GOING TWO-WAY THAT MAY CLOG TRAFFIC IN ORDER TO GET THE PEDESTRIANS HERE. THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY, WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE BIKEWAY. WE HAVE CONCERNS ON WHY WOULD IT GO ON FOURTH IF WITHIN THE PLAN ITSELF IS STATE THAT HAD THE INTENTION IS TO MOVE IT AT THIRD AT A LATER DATE? IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF DOING THE HARD WORK ONCE? CAN WE DO THE HARD WORK ONCE INSTEAD OF PUTTING A BIKEWAY IN AND THEN MOVING IT TO ANOTHER DESTINATION? SINCLAIR BLACK, WHO IS BEHIND GREAT STREETS, EVEN THINKS THIRD STREET IS A BETTER LOCATION FOR THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY. SO WHY PUT IT SOMEWHERE AND MOVE IT? IN BUSINESS THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO US. WE'RE TAUGHT TO TRY TO DO THE HARD WORK ONCE. SO THAT'S A CONCERN FOR US IN THE VIABILITY OF THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT. TAKING THE TWO-WAY STREETS TO ONE WAY WE THINK WOULD SLOW UP ACCESSIBILITY AND SO THAT'S A CONCERN. AND THE FACT THAT CONGRESS AVENUE IS THE MAIN STREET, AND AS EDDIE SAID SO ELOQUENTLY, IT GOES RIGHT INTO THE STATE CAPITOL. THERE'S NOT A PRETTIER SIGHT IN THE LAND. I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING 12 YEARS IN THE GREAT CITY OF CHICAGO. A SLOW BEGAN IS CHICAGO, THE CITY THAT WORKS. AND IT DOES. AND THERE'S NOT A BETTER RETAIL STREET IN AMERICA THAN MICHIGAN AVENUE. AND CONGRESS AVENUE SHOULD BE OUR MICHIGAN AVENUE. IT'S WIDE, IT'S GOT NICE SIDEWALKS. DOLLARS THAT ARE SPENT SHOULD BE TO IMPROVE CONGRESS AVENUE. I MEAN, MICHIGAN AVENUE HAS SOME OF THE HIGHEST SALES PER SQUARE FOOT, SOME OF THE HIGHEST RENTS PAID IN AMERICA. AND IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH ITS MIX OF OFFICE, RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL. THAT SHOULD BE THE MODEL THAT WE HAVE, A NICE BOULEVARD WITH TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENTS ON IT WHERE WE HAVE ACCESS TO TO IT. NOW, THE STREETS AROUND MICHIGAN AVENUE, MICHIGAN IS TWO-WAY STREETS, A WONDERFUL BOULEVARD DOWN THE CENTER, WIDE SIDEWALKS WITH TREES, PRUNED TREES, EDGE VEGETATION THAT GETS PLANTED BETWEEN SEASONS TO IT'S ALWAYS NICE AND FLOWERING, WELL DECORATED DURING THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS, THOSE STREETS AROUND IT ARE ONE WAY STREETS THAT PROVIDE ACCESSIBILITY, AND THEY HAVE THE INGRESS AND EGRESS PROPERLY SO THE GARAGES THAT ARE THERE. I KNOW MR. LIBRACH TALKED ABOUT THE GARAGES AND HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST TO CHANGE SOME OF THOSE GARAGES AND WHAT WOULD BE THE CITY EXPENDITURE TO MITIGATE THAT? THOSE ARE OUR CONCERNS. WE WANT THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS SUCCESSFULLY IN THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT. WE THINK WE'RE A VIABLE ENTITY. I'M AN OPERATING PARTNER OF TRULUCK'S AT FOURTH AND COLORADO. THE FIRST YEAR WE DIDN'T OPEN AT LUNCH. NOT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO, BUT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T. WE HAD TO WEATHER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COOL WATER LINE, WE HAD TO WEATHER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIBER-OPTIC LINE. UNTIL WE KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE STREETS, WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT TO OPEN FOR LUNCH. WE OFFERED COMPLIMENTARY VALET PARKING THAT I PAID FOR FOR OUR PATRONS AT LUNCH IN ORDER TO ATTRACT THEM. SO OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BUILD OUR LUNCH BUSINESS BY DOING THAT FOR THEM BECAUSE NOW PEOPLE ARE USED TO HOW TO GET AROUND. I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED IF THAT TRAFFIC FLOW CHANGES WILL OUR PATRONS CONTINUE TO FOLLOW US? AS THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT ASSOCIATION WE HAVE ABOUT 1200 EMPLOYEES TO CONSIDER. I'VE GOT 70 OF THEM ALONE AT MY RESTAURANT. MY OWN PERSONAL INCOME IS AT STATE ALONG WITH THE INCOME OF MY EMPLOYEES. I'M A PROPERTY OWNER. WE BOUGHT THE LAND AND THE BUILDING THERE. SO WE ASK, WE BEG AND WE PLEAD THAT YOU HEAR US TODAY. AND AS VOTERS, LISTEN TO US TO -- ABOUT OUR COMMENTS WITH THIS GREAT STREET PROPOSAL. WE BELIEVE THESE MODIFICATIONS ARE SIMPLE. WE BELIEVE THAT THE BIKEWAY IS BETTER ON THIRD STREET. IS IT SO NECESSARY AND THIRD AND FIRST RUN IN A PAIR? CAN THIRD BE A TWO-WAY AND FIRST BE A ONE WAY. HAS THERE BEEN A STUDY ON THAT? WE THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY OF GETTING THESE RESULTS AND WE APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU TAKE IN LISTENING TO US TODAY. ANY QUESTIONS?

Mayor Garcia: QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. CELESTE SNOW? AND FOLLOWING MS. SNOW IS MELISSA GONZALES. MS. SNOW, WELCOME.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CELESTE SNOW AND I'M THE SECRETARY OF THE AUSTIN WAREHOUSE DISTRICT ASSOCIATION. DAVID HAS SPOKEN ON BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATION THIS EVENING, BUT WE ALSO WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS IN OUR GROUP AND THE QUALITY OF THE ESTABLISHMENTS REPRESENTED. OUR MEMBERSHIP CONSISTS OF A WIDE VARIETY OF BUSINESSES, MANY OF WHICH LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR TODAY'S POPULARITY OF THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT THROUGH THEIR VISION AND HARD WORK. RESTAURANTS, LIVE MUSIC VENUES, COFFEE HOUSES, RESIDENTIAL UNITS, RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS, ARCHITECT'S OFFICE AND MORE CONTINUE TO WORK DILIGENTLY ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS TO NEW CHUR THIS MIXED USE DISTRICT IN THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. WE ARE CURRENTLY 30 MEMBERS STRONG, AS DAVID MENTIONED. SOME OF THE NAMES YOU WILL RECOGNIZE ARE THE WATER CAFE, CEDAR STREET COURTYARD, RED FINZ, GILL GANZ, SPEAK EASY, WHISK CAN I BAR, TRUE LUCK'S, ELEMENT. POLYESTERS, THE SPAGHETTI WAREHOUSE, LAVACA STREET BAR, ALAMO DRAIFT HOUSE, THE PLAZA LOST, DAVE CLARK ARCHITECTURE, AVANT STUDIOS. 217 LP AND CRIMSON RESTAURANT. THANK YOU.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, MS. SNOW. LET ME MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE HERE FOR ITEM 68, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 10-5 OF THE CITY CODE REGARDING SOUND AMP PLA INDICATION INDICATION FOR OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUES, THIS ITEM WILL NOT BE TAKEN UP TONIGHT. WE WERE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT. IT WAS GOING OBJECT A PUBLIC HEARING. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE 12TH. AND ACTION ON THAT ITEM WILL BE TAKEN IN JANUARY. SO IF YOU'RE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 68 ON THE SOUND AMPLIFICATION FOR OUTDOOR VENUES, THAT WILL NOT BE TAKEN UP TONIGHT. AS MELISSA IS COMING UP, BEFORE YOU START, TRICIA BAUERS GAVE YOU THREE MINUTES, AND I WANT TO READ INTO THE RECORD THAT ALONG WITH YOUR CARDS WE RECEIVED PETITIONS FOR NO LEFT TURNS ON FIFTH AND SIXTH STREETS AND THERE ARE 240 SIGNATURES THAT I WILL SEND TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS SO THEY CAN LOOK AT IT. THE PETITION LEADS, WE THE UNDERSIGNED RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN BY OUR SIGNATURES BELOW HERE BY RECORD OUR OPPOSITION TO ANY ACTION BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO PROHIBIT IN ANY WAY LEFT TURN MOVEMENT INTO EASTBOUND WEST FIFTH TO NORTHBOUND NORTH LAMAR, FROM NORTHBOUND NORTH LAMAR TO NORTHBOUND WEST SIXTH STREET AND FROM SOUTHBOUND NORTH LAMAR TO EASTBOUND SIXTH STREET. AND WE FURJ ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO REJECT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE STAFF TO PROHIBIT SUCH LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS AND TO TAKE WHATEVER ACTION IS NECESSARY TO FACILITATE LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTIONS HEREIN MENTIONED. WE FURTHER UNDERSTAND THAT THE ABOVE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POSITION OF THE AREA RETAILERS AND THE STATED POSITION OF THE WEST END AUSTIN ALLIANCE. AND THEN THE PETITION HAS A COVER STREET THAT SAYS THESE PETITIONS WERE SIGNED IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS. THE SIGNATURES WERE NOT SOLICITED, CUSTOMERS SIMPLY READ THEM AND SIGNED. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THEM AND IN MAKING YOUR DECISION. AND THIS IS SIGNED BY PATRICIA SLADE AND JIM MURPHY, CO-OWNERS OF THE SWIED ISSUE HILL ON O.O. SWEDISH HILL BAKERY. MS. GONZALES, WELCOME.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL FOR THIS TIME. I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT AND WE HAVE I THINK FLOODED OUR OFFICE WITH E-MAILS AND FAXES. I THINK WE SENT YOU ANOTHER 18 PAGES BEFORE THIS, ANOTHER MEMBER OF OURS DID. SO WE APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME THAT WE'VE TAKEN AHEAD OF TIME, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE BRIEF NOW BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE MORE TO SAY. I THINK OUR POSITION IS PRETTY CLEAR. I'M PRESIDENT OF THE WESTERN AUSTIN ALLIANCE. WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS OF OLD WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AWANA, THE DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALSO PART OF OUR GROUP, AND WE HAVE THE LANDOWNERS AND MERCHANTS. AND WE HAVE THREE OF THESE POSITIONS IN OUR AREA. WE HAVE THE EXTENSION OF WEST AVENUE AND WE HAVE THE SANDRA MURAIDA WAY AND WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THOSE. WE DO OBJECT TO THE NO LEFT TURNS OFF LAMAR. IF PEOPLE WANT TO DO THAT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THAT'S FINE WITH US. THAT'S THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO THERE. BUT THERE'S A GRID THERE THAT EXISTS. WHERE WE ARE THERE IS NO GRID. AND SO THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY OF THIS FUNCTIONING W. YOU HAVE TO MIND READ. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW AHEAD OF TIME THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE MOPAC, WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO US. YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SIGNS THAT WOULD TELL YOU HOW TO GO THESE ELABORATE WAYS AND MOST OF THEM WOULD PULL YOU THROUGH AWANA'S AREA. POOR TRICIA WOULD HAVE MORE PEOPLE GOING BY HER HOUSE THAN HER BUSINESS AT CERTAIN TIMES OF DAYS. IT WOULD BE AN INCREASE TO OTHER HER HOUSE AND A DECREASE TO HER BUSINESS. THEY'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE FROM SOUTH AUSTIN TO GET TO THE WEST PART OF LAMAR. AND YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHICH TURNS TO TAKE. YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO OVER THREE LANES ON LAMAR AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO KNOW THAT AHEAD OF TIME OR BE SWITCHING OVER A ONE BLOCK RADIUS. THE STUDY WAS FLAWED. IT DIDN'T TAKE ANY OF THESE THINGS INTO ACCOUNT. LET'S SEE. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANYBODY THAT THINKS THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA, SO I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT TO HOPEFULLY PEOPLE HAVE THE GOOD SENSE TO OPPOSE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, MS. GONZALES. KATE TRAVIS? SHE IS REGISTERED NOT WISHING TO SPEAK AND SHE WANTS ME TO READ THAT SOUTH CENTRAL COALITION OF NEIGHBORHOODS SUPPORTS THE STAFF'S INTERIM PLANS FOR RIVERSIDE. THAT'S THE ONE THAT REDUCES TRAFFIC ON RIVERSIDE TO ONE LANE WESTBOUND AND ONE LANE EASTBOUND. TOMMY EDEN? MR. EDEN, YOU HAVE DAVID ENSON GAVE YOU THREE MINUTES. STRANGELY ENOUGH, YOU SIGNED IN FAVOR OF AND HE SIGNED AGAINST, SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW --

I'LL COVER THAT.

Mayor Garcia: ARE YOU ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE? [ LAUGHTER ]

THANK YOU, MAYOR GARCIA AND COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS TOMMY EDEN AND I'M ON THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION. I'M BACK, AND I BROUGHT SOME FRIENDS ALONG. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE'VE SENT YOU A FEW E-MAILS. WE DON'T REALLY NEED ANY CHANGES TO OUR DOWNTOWN STREETS, ALL WE NEED IS A CHANGE IN ATTITUDES. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TWO-WAY STREETS DOWNTOWN. ALL WE NEED IS A CHANGE IN ATTITUDE. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE WIDER SIDEWALKS. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO HAVE ANY TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES ANYWHERE IN TOWN. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE BICYCLE LANES, BUT WE DO NEED A CHANGE IN ATTITUDES. AND AS LONG AS SOME OF THE MOTORISTS IN AUSTIN TAKE THE ATTITUDE THAT THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES WHO SHOULD BE ON SOME ROADS -- AND I'M NOT MENTIONING ANY NAMES -- WE DO NEED TO GIVE SOME CUES TO THOSE MOTORISTS THAT BICYCLISTS ARE LEGITIMATE ROADWAY USERS ON EVERY STREET IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN, INCLUDING THE SOUTH FIRST BRIDGE, THE DRAKE BRIDGE, AND THE OLD HISTORIC LAMAR BRIDGE. REALLY ALL WE NEED IS A CHANGE IN ATTITUDE. LET ME READ YOU SOME EXCERPTS FROM THE AUSTIN BICYCLE PLAN WHICH YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL, PASSED IN 1996. WITHOUT COMPELLING REASONS TO OMIT THEM, BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN ALL TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION SHOULD ENSURE THAT THE BICYCLE NETWORK IS PLEATED AS PLANNED -- COMPLETED AS PLANNED IN ORDER TO PROMOTE BICYCLE TRANSPORTATION IN AUSTIN. THIS WOULD EMPHASIZE THE INTEGRATION OF BICYCLING INTO THE REGULAR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IN AUSTIN. LET ME READ YOU ANOTHER EXCERPT. A NETWORK OF CYCLING LANES WOULD ENCOURAGE MANY BICYCLE OWNERS WHO CURRENTLY FEEL INTIMIDATED IN MOTORIZED TRAFFIC TO CYCLE MORE FREQUENTLY. WHEN AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC FLOWS EXCEED 10,000 OR AVERAGE MOTOR VEHICLE SPEEDS EXCEED 30 MILES PER HOUR, FIVE FOOT BIKE LANES WILL ATTRACT AND SERVE GROUP B AND C RIDERS BETTER THAN WIDE CURB LANES OR OTHER DESIGN TREATMENTS. YES, I CHECKED FOR AND NOW I'M ASKING THAT WE TRANSFER THAT AND CHANGE IT TO AGAINST. I HAD ORIGINALLY SAID THAT I WAS FOR THIS, AND NOW I'M ASKING THAT YOU HAVE THE CITY STAFF STUDY THIS PROPOSAL FOR ANOTHER 45 DAYS AND COME BACK WITH BETTER RECOMMENDATIONS. WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL NEW BRIDGE, THE PFLUGER BRIDGE. IT WAS -- THE ARCHITECT WAS HERE EARLIER. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BRIDGE. AND IT ACCOMODATES BICYCLISTS WHO ARE COMMUTING GOING EAST AND WEST VERY WELL. BUT THERE WAS A COST OVERJUNE WHEN IT WAS BEING BLTD AND IT WASN'T QUITE FINISHED AS IT WAS DESIGNED. IF IT HAD BEEN FINISHED, IT WOULD ALSO ACCOMMODATE NORTH AND SOUTH TRAFFIC PERFECTLY. AS IT IS, MANY BICYCLISTS CHOOSE TO USE THE OLD HISTORIC LAMAR BRIDGE BECAUSE THE NEW PFLUGER BRIDGE JUST DOESN'T QUITE GET YOU THERE. SOME PEOPLE HAVE ESTIMATED THAT IT TAKES AN EXTRA 10 MINUTES TO USE THE OLD -- THE NEW PFLUGER BRIDGE IF YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO GET ACROSS TOWN LAKE AND CESAR CHAVEZ AND THEN CONTINUE ON LAMAR BOULEVARD. I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY MEASURED HOW LONG IT TAKES, BUT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THAT'S CORRECT. NOW, I'M NO LONGER IN FAVOR OF WHAT'S LEFT OF THESE PROPOSALS. I HAD SAID THAT I'M IN FAVOR, BUT I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT BICYCLISTS ARE GIVEN ANY ADVANTAGE OVER MOTORISTS, WHICH IS PART OF WHAT THE GREAT STREETS PROPOSAL -- THE GREAT STREETS MASTER PLAN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ABOUT. AND THESE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES. THE CITY COUNCIL TOLD THE CITY STAFF WE WANT PEDESTRIANS FIRST, TRANSIT SECOND, BICYCLISTS THIRD, AND MOTORISTS LAST. AND I'M JUST NOT CONVINCED THAT WE'VE QUITE GOT THE PRIORITIES STRAIGHT YET. [ BUZZER SOUNDS ] THANK YOU.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, MR. EDEN. MR. LANGBORN, WELCOME WELCOME, SIR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS AUDLEY BLACKBURN. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE AUSTIN COUNCIL OF THE BLIND. YOU ALREADY HAVE IN YOUR PACKET A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE NEAR TERM IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE GREAT STREETS PROGRAM FROM THE AUSTIN COUNCIL. I WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF ISSUES TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CLEARLY UNDERSTAND SOME THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US. FIRST OF ALL, I WAS THINKING WHILE THESE PEOPLE WERE TALKING TO US LIKE THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT, I'D LOVE TO GO THERE, BUT THE TRUTH IS I CAN'T GET THERE. WHY? THE SIDEWALKS, OR A MORE ACCURATE DESCRIPTION WOULD BE WHAT SIDEWALKS? THERE AREN'T ANY. THE AREA AROUND SPAGHETTI WAREHOUSE FOR THOSE AND SEVERAL OF THE OTHER RESTAURANTS THAT WERE MENTIONED, YOU CAN'T SAFELY GET THERE AS A PEDESTRIAN. I TRIED. I GAVE UP. THAT STREET SCAPE IMPROVEMENT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO DO NOW. WE URM YOU TO DO THE FUNDING FOR THAT NOW. I ALSO NEED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STREET SCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, THE STATEMENTS INDICATED TO YOU THAT CAPITAL METRO'S PLAN TO MOVE THE ROUTES OFF OF CONGRESS AND ON TO BRAZOS, COLORADO AND OTHER STREETS IS A NON-CONTROVERSIAL ITEM IS NOT AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF THE FACT. IN 1996 WHEN I WAS SERVING THIS COUNCIL AS A MEMBER OF THE CAPITAL METRO BOARD, THIS ISSUE CAME UP BEFORE THE BOARD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS CLEARLY STATED TO THE BOARD AND THAT WE COMMUNICATED TO COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF WERE THAT WE WOULD NOT AGREE TO MOVING THE BUSES OFF OF CONGRESS WITHOUT A COMMITMENT TO MAKING SURE THAT COLORADO AND BRAZOS AND THE OTHER STREETS WHERE YOU PLAN TO MOVE THEM WOULD MEET A.D.A. ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IF YOU MOVE THE BUSES OVER TO THOSE STREETS WITH ALL THE OF THE ELEVATIONS AND THE DIFFERENT SIDEWALKS, NOW, A PERSON WHO IS WALKING AROUND WITH A SEEING EYE DOG, WHO HAS GOT SIX FEET, DOESN'T HAVE MUCH TO COMPLAIN ABOUT, BUT FOR PERSONS IN WHEELCHAIRS AND PERSONS WHO HAVE LIMITED MOBILITY, PERSONS USING WHEELCHAIRS, THAT AREA IS A NIGHTMARE FOR FOLKS TO TRAVEL. IF YOU MOVE THE BUSES OVER THERE, WHAT YOU'RE REALLY SAYING TO PEOPLE IS YOU CAN'T USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. SO YOU NEED TO TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT THAT, AND THERE'S GOT TO BE A COMMITMENT IN WRITING AND A CLEAR PLAN. I'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE CITY STAFF THAT THAT PLAN WILL BE THERE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO SEE IT BECAUSE WE CANNOT AFFORD TO MOVE THE BUSES WITHOUT MAKING SURE THAT'S GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE. AND SO YES, WE DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE PLAN OF THE STAFF. AND ONE MORE THING, MAYOR. AT THE CORNER OF EIGHTH AND BRAZOS CLOSE TO THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, IF YOU LOOK UP THE STREET PEOPLE COME UP THAT HILL -- IT'S ONE WAY AND I GUARANTEE YOU THAT THEY GO VERY FAST -- [ BUZZER SOUNDS ] AND I'VE HAD SOME INTERESTING CLOSE CALLS BECAUSE IT'S ONE WAY. AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TWO-WAYS TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS. THANK YOU.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, MR. BLACKBURN. ROBIN CRAVE I HAVE. AND FOLLOWING MR. CRAVEY IS SAM ALLISON, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT IS REGISTERED IN FAVOR OF. JIM VAN OLSTEN WILL FOLLOW WILL CRAVEY. WELCOME, SIR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL AND STAFF. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. MY NAME IS ROBIN CRAVEY. AND I'VE BEEN IN LOVE WITH DOWNTOWN SINCE THE 19 70'S WHEN I DROVE A TAXI FOR ROY'S IN THIS CITY. AND NOW I HAVE AN OFFICE AT THE CORNER OF NINTH AND BRAZOS IN THE VAUGHN BUILDING. AND -- WHERE I PRACTICE LAW. AND I BICYCLE THERE MOST DAYS AND I DRIVE SOME DAYS WHEN I NEED TO. AND WHEN I HAVE MY BIKE AND I HAVE TO WORK LATE, WHICH HAPPENS, THEN I CAN THROW MY BICYCLE ON THE BUS TO GET HOME AND I DON'T HAVE TO RIDE IN THE DARK OR IF I'M REALLY TIRED. I'M URGING THE COUNCIL TODAY TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION. IT'S LONG OVERDUE. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TURNING STREETS TWO-WAY IN THIS DOWN FOR AT LEAST A DECADE, LONGER THAN THAT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SOME SUGGESTIONS ABOUT OTHER SOLUTIONS, BUT I DON'T HAVE TIME, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THEM BEFORE. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF SOME OF THE PROVISIONS. I'M CERTAINLY NOT IN FAVOR OF STOPPING THE LEFT TURNS ON LAMAR, NOT IN FAVOR OF RETAINING CESAR CHAVEZ AS TWO-WAY. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF STOPPING LEFT TURNS ON CONGRESS AVENUE EITHER. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT ADDING AN EXTRA LEFT TURN LANE ON SOUTH LAMAR. BUT -- AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT I PREFER CLOSING RIVERSIDE DRIVE, BUT I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION IN THIS RESOLUTION IS A GOOD START. AND I WOULD PREFER A STRONGER COMMITMENT TO THE BIKEWAY. BUT ALL THAT SAID, I HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL WILL SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION. AND IN PARTICULAR SUPPORT THE CONVERSION OF ONE-WAY STREETS TO TWO-WAY FUNCTION, ESPECIALLY NINTH AND 10th AND BRAZOS AND COLORADO. I'D LIKE TO SEE BOTH THOSE PAIRS DONE RIGHT AWAY. IT'S JUST A COINCIDENCE THAT I'M AT THE CORNER OF NINTH AND BRAZOS. THAT'S WHERE MY OFFICE IS. SO I COULD START IN ENJOYING THAT IMMEDIATELY. WHEN I RIDE MY BIKE DOWNTOWN, I RIDE ON CONGRESS AVENUE BECAUSE IT'S TWO-WAY AND TRAFFIC IS SLOW ENOUGH THAT I CAN KEEP UP WITH IT. I'M AFRAID OF RIDING ON BRAZOS BECAUSE IT'S ONE-WAY. AND IN ONE-WAY TRAFFIC DRIVERS DON'T THINK THEY HAVE TO LOOK, AND THEY DON'T. SO -- ANOTHER THING THAT THIS RESOLUTION WILL START TO CLEAR UP IS THE CONFUSING MAZE OF TWO-WAY STREETS THAT DEAD END. WE NEED TO STOP THAT. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT HAPPENING. I HOPE THAT IT WILL HAPPEN. WHAT THIS IS REALLY ABOUT IS -- [ BUZZER SOUNDS ] WELL, MAKING DOWNTOWN MORE COMFORTABLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, MR. CRAVEY, JIM VAN OLSKI. WELCOME. FOLLOWING HIM IS JOHN C.ROSARO, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK AND IS REGISTERED IN FAVOR OF. AND SUE GREVEN FOLLOWS. WELCOME, SIR.

THANK YOU. ONCE IN A WHILE I COME TO THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND I HAVE NOTHING FOR OR AGAINST THIS THING HERE. I DON'T EVEN LIVE DIRECTLY IN AUSTIN. I CAN TALK WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BRA VAD DOUGH BECAUSE I'M NOT ASKING FOR ONE THING OR ANOTHER. BUT I REPRESENT PROBABLY 99.9998% OF THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T SHOW UP FOR THESE MEETINGS AND STILL HAVE THIS BIG CONCERN ABOUT CUTTING DOWN, THROUGH AND ACROSS AUSTIN IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER. AND I THINK THAT THIS STUDY -- THE PRESIPS ARE WRONGS. IT FEELS WARMED AND COZY TO HAVE THE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AND ALL THESE THINGS, BUT THERE'S AN OLD SAYING THAT THINGS ARE THE WAY THEY ARE BECAUSE THEY GOT THAT WAY. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ONE-WAY STREETS IS TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC THAT WAS NECESSARY,. THE TWO 28 STREETS DIDN'T DO IT ANY MORE. SOME OF THE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY FEATURES THAT I THINK ARE BEING LOST ARE THE ENCOACH CROACHMENT ON THE STREETS, FOR EXAMPLE, OVER THERE ON SAN JACINTO SOME OF THESE REST VAWNTS HAVE GOTTEN VARIANCES AND ENCOACHED OUT INTO THE SIDEWALK. AND I THINK THAT WAS A LOSS TO THE CITY. IT'S ALSO A LOSS TO THE CITY WHEN YOU CLOSE STREETS AND RIGHT AT A SITE WHERE THEY'RE CONTEMPLATING THE NEW FEDERAL OFFICE BUILDING THERE'S A STREET RUNNING ONE BLOCK EAST OF LAMAR THAT MAY BE CLOSED. I THINK THAT'S A NECESSARY RELIEF VALVE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THE CITY DIDN'T KEEP WHOLE FODZ FROM MOVING TO CLOSE TO THE STREET. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT'S THE WORST BOTTLENECK ON LAMAR, BUT THAT PLACE AND THAT ONE CORNER HAVE NOW PLUGGED THAT THOROUGHFARE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. I THINK WIDE STREETS ARE WHAT GREAT STREETS R. ALL ABOUT, BUT IN NEW YORK CITY THERE WAS A MAZE OF CROOKED STREETS THAT BURNED DOWN AND THEY SAID WE'RE GOING TO MAKE WIDE STREETS AND THAT WAS CONSIDERED THE MOST DEMOCRATIC APPROACH TO HANDLING THE VOLUMES OF PEOPLE THERE. AND I THINK THE COUNCIL REALLY NEEDS TO LOOK AT SOME STRATEGIC OPPORTUNITIES HERE OF NOT ONLY GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS ISSUE, BUT THE HIGHWAY 130. HIGHWAY 1 FLIRT TO ME IS A BILLION DOLLAR BOONDOGGLE BECAUSE NOBODY WILL TAKE IT. IT'S A MEGA VERSION OF SOUTHWEST PARKWAY. AND IF THAT DOESN'T GET A BETTER ROUTING WHERE YOU CAN GET FROM THE SOUTH END TO THE NORTH END, THEN I-35 WON'T GET ANY BETTER AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE THE DREADED EPA DOWN YOUR NECK. EVERY MORNING AND EVERY NIGHT MOPAC, MOPAC, MOPAC PLUGGED UP. I DON'T THINK THAT INTEL SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THAT JUST BROUGHT PEOPLE IN WHO DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO BE BROUGHT DOWNTOWN. THERE'S NO -- [ BUZZER SOUNDS ] THERE'S NO INCENTIVE TO HAVE THEM THERE. COUNCILMEMBER WYNN WAS AT THIS CLEAN ENERGY POLICY FORUM YESTERDAY, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE ANSWERING SOME OF THE STRATEGIC ISSUES THAT YOU CAN HANDLE HERE BY EXPEDITING THE TRAFFIC. AND I ALSO DON'T AGREE WITH IEWN'S -- AUSTIN'S ANSWER TO ROAD CONGESTION, CLOSING ROADS. WHOEVER CLOSED JOLLYVILLE ROAD UP THERE BY #- 60, THAT WAS -- 360, THAT WAS A TERRIBLE DISSERVICE TO PROVIDING A RELIEF VALVE FOR TRAFFIC. AND LIKE LIKEWISE CLOSING RIVERSIDE DRIVE, THAT'S A VERY NECESSARY RELIEF VALVE AND IT SHOULDN'T BE LOOKED AT, WELL, WE'LL FIND A WAY TO HANDLE THAT TRAFFIC OVER AT LAMAR.

Mayor Garcia: CAN YOU SUMMARIZE, PLEASE, SIR.

OKAY. AND SO WHAT -- I'VE BEEN TO THAT ONE ON THE CLOSING OF RIVERSIDE AND I SAID WHY DO YOU WANT TO CLOSE THAT? AND THERE WAS A BUMPLG OF YOUNG LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND THEY SAID YOU MUST BE FROM MARS. THIS IS WHAT WE LEARNED IN OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE CLASS. ANYWAY, IN SUMMARY, I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD DO ANYTHING WHICH IMPEDES THE QUICK FLOW OF TRAFFIC DOWNTOWN. AND THE PREACCEPTS OF THIS STUDY ARE FLAWED AND THEREFORE THE CONCLUSIONS ARE FLAWED.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU,. [ONE MOMENT, PLEASE, FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS] CBD-H, CBD-H CBD-H, THAT SEEM TO OUTWEIGH THE POTENTIAL DOWNTOWN OBJECTIVES. FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CONVERT 7th THROUGH 10th STREETS, BRAZOS, COLORADO, TRINITY AND SAN JACINTO STREETS FROM ONE WAY TO TWO WAY ARE EXPERIMENTAL, EXPENSIVE AND SOMEWHAT COUNTER PRODUCTIVE TO IMPROVING MOBILITY. ADDITIONALLY THE LONG-TERM IMPACT OF REDUCING RIVERSIDE DRIVE TO ONE LANE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT AS TRAFFIC FLOW INCREASES INTO DOWNTOWN AND RIVERSIDE DRIVE PLAYS AN INCREASINGLY MORE IMPORTANT ROLE AS A RELIEVER ROAD. AS AN ALTERNATIVE, THE CHAMBER RECOMMENDS MAINTAINING TWO LANES EACH DIRECTION DURING PEAK TRAVEL HOURS. DURING NON-PEAK HOURS AND ON WEEKENDS THE RIGHT LANES COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR PARKING AND THE ROAD CLOSED FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. AS A FINAL COMMENT,HE TASK FORCE FOUND THAT THE OBJECTIVES AND CRITERIA FOR DETERMINING -- DETERMINING SUCCESS OR FAILURE OF A PROJECT IN MOST INSTANCES WERE NOT WELL IDENTIFIED OR DEVELOPED. THE CHAMBER STRONGLY RECOMMENDS THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN EVALUATION PROCESS PRIOR TO IMPLEMENTING ANY OF THE PROJECTS AFFECTING MOBILITY. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS, WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU ALL TO COME AND VISIT THE CHAMBER'S NEW LOCATION AT 210 BARTON SPRINGS, WE CAN PROMISE YOU PLENTY OF INEXPENSIVE PARKING. THANK YOU.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DOMINICK CHAVEZ. FOLLOWING MR. CHAVEZ ISCIAN MAN NORTON. IS SHANNA NORTON.

MY NAME IS DOMINICK CHAVEZ, HERE FOR CITIZENS FOR KEEPING DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ACCESSIBLE. HERE TO OPPOSE THE TWO-WAY STREET CONVERSION ISSUES. YOUR DECISION HINGES ON TWO SIMPLE CHOICES, FIRST DO YOU ACCEPT THE FINDINGS OF A WELL PAID, WELL RESPECTED NATIONALLY RENOWNED TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WAS CHARGED WITH STUDYING THE IMPACT OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND, SECOND, HOW WILL YOU VALUE OR HOW WILL YOU CHOOSE TO ASSIGN VALUE TO THE OPINIONS OF LONG-TIME DOWNTOWN AUSTIN BUSINESS OWNERS AND RETAILERS, MANY OF WHICH YOU HAVE ALREADY HEARD FROM TODAY. LET ME QUICKLY ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. IT'S SURPRISING THAT WE ARE EVEN HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE TO DEBATE THIS. THE CITY HAS ALREADY DONE DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS QUESTION, RIGHTLY SO. WE HIRED UNQUESTIONABLY ONE OF THE BEST TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FIRMS IN THE COUNTRY TO STUDY THE IMPACTS. THEIR FINDINGS WERE CLEAR AND UNEQUIVOCAL WHEN IT CAMES TO THE TWO-WAY STREET QUESTION. NOW, OVER THE LAST YEAR, SOME HAVE TRIED TO PARSE THE NUMBERS AND SPIN THE RESULTS. THE DELAY TIME REALLY ISN'T THAT BAD OR THOSE ARE ACCEPTABLE NUMBERS IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS OR WELL, IF WE DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THINGS ARE GOING TO GET VERY, VERY BAD ANYWAYS. BUT NUMBERS ASIDE, THERE IS NO QUESTION WHAT THE PROFESSIONALS FOUND. NOW, MANY FOLKS HAVE ALREADY QUOTE THE THE STUDY ADD NEWS YUM, YOU HAVE -- ADD NEWS OWE AD NASEUM. I DON'T KNOW IF A 20 SECOND CLAY IS GOOD, BAD, INDIFFERENT, ACCEPTABLE, MANAGEABLE. I'M NOT PAID TO KNOW THAT. THESE CONSULTANTS WERE. THEY DID A STUDY. MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE READ THAT STUDY ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT IT. YOUR SECOND CHOICE REVOLVES AROUND THE VALUE YOU PLACE ON YOUR OWN LOCAL EXPERTS. YES I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING BEEMAN. SHE'S BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 50 YEARS, THAT'S INCREDIBLE. WHATEVER SHE'S DOING SHE'S DOING IT RIGHT. OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE HAD A STREAM OF OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS STROLL INTO TOWN TO TELL US HOW TO MAKE AUSTIN BETTER. FOLKS WITH LITTLE OR NO RETAIL EXPERIENCE TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE RETAIL WORK. WE'VE HAD FOLKS TELLING US THAT SLOWLY TRAFFIC AND LIMITING ACCESS IS IN OUR BEST INTERESTS. WE HAVE FOLKS TELLING US, THIS IS MY FAVORITE, WHILE THEY ARE DOING THIS IN PORTLAND, BUT HAS ANYONE TAKEN THE TIME TO ASK BEE, TO ASK MR. TRIPOLI, MR. KRUEGER, SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS THAT DO BUSINESS DOWNTOWN WHAT THEY THINK TO MAKE IT DOWNTOWN? FOLKS WHO COLLECTIVELY HAVE HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF COMBINED BUSINESS EXPERIENCE IN AUSTIN DOWNTOWN. YOU KNOW, BEE DOES NOT SELL JEWELRY IN PORTLAND. SHE PAYS HER BILLS HERE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. I'M NOTICE RETAILER, BUT I ACCEPT HER OPINION, I ACCEPT THE OPINIONS OF OTHERS HAVING EXPERIENCE DOING WHAT THEY DO IN AUSTIN DOWNTOWN CURRENTLY. SO I'M HERE RESPECTFULLY TO ASK THAT YOU MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE. THAT YOU ACCEPT THE FINDINGS OF THE PAID CONSULTANT. THAT YOU ACCEPT THE OPINIONS OF THOSE WHO ARE THERE ARE DOING BUSINESS DOWNTOWN OR ARE GIVING YOU THEIR EXPERT ADVICE ON WHAT IT TAKES AND THAT YOU REJECT THE TWO-WAY STREET PROPOSAL. REALLY QUICKLY IN CLOSING. I HAD ABOUT 400 FOLKS FIRED UP ABOUT THIS ISSUE. THEY WANTED TO COME DOWN AND SIGN UP TO SPEAK AND KEEP YOU HERE UNTIL ALL WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING. TO GAIN THE GOOD GRACES OF THE COUNCIL, I CONVINCED THEM TO SIGN A PETITION INSTEAD. SO MR. MAYOR I WILL GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE THAT TO YOU NOW, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WYNN: GOOD GRACE IS GLADLY GIVEN.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, MR. CHAVEZ. SHANNA NORTON, FOLLOWING HER IS BENNETT DONOVAN. MS. NORTON, WELCOME.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL. I'M SHANNON NORTON, HERE TO SUPPORT CITY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THE PROPOSAL FOR THE INTERIM RECONFIGURATION OF BARTON SPRINGS ROAD -- RIVERSIDE DRIVE AS IT GOES THROUGH TOWN LAKE PARK. I'M BOULDIN NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENT. I LIVE ABOUT A STONE'S THROW FROM THE NEW TOWN LAKE PARK. OR AT LEAST IF YOU HAVE A GOOD PITCHING ARM IT'S A STONE'S THROW. BUT TONIGHT I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE SOUTH CENTRAL COALITION OF NEIGHBORHOODS AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE TOWN LAKE PARK STICK STAKEHOLDERS GROUP. THEY WANT ME TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE SOUTH CENTRAL COALITION MEMBERS ARE BULLISH ON THIS PROPOSAL, I'LL TELL YOU WHY. IF THIS PROPOSAL FOR RIVERSIDE IS ACCEPTED, THEN WE CAN BUILD THE PARK AS IT WAS DESIGNED, AS IT WAS PROMISED, WITHOUT ANY COMPROMISE. IF WE ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL ON THE RIVERSIDE INTERIM CONFIGURATION, THEN WE CAN BUILD THAT PROMISED PARK IN A TIMELY FASHION AND MAYBE THE BEST OF ALL, IF WE ACCEPT THAT PROPOSAL, THEN WE KEEP OUR OPTIONS OPEN FOR RIVERSIDE. IT'S MY PERSONAL THOUGHT AND A LOT OF MY SOUTH AUSTIN NEIGHBORS SHARE THIS, THAT RIVERSIDE SHOULD CLOSE AND THIS PRESERVES THAT OPTION. BUT I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS WHOSE OPINIONS I RESPECT DISAGREE WITH ME ON THIS AND THINK IT SHOULD REMAIN OPEN. AND THIS PRESERVES THEIR OPTION AS WELL. AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING LIKE MARTHA STEWART, IT'S A GOOD THING. THERE AREN'T ALL THAT MANY TIMES WHEN A BUNCH OF CRANKY SOUTH AUSTIN NEIGHBORS ARE HERE TO CHAMPION THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE ARE TONIGHT, I'M SPEAKING FOR A LOT OF FOLKS WHO -- WHO ARE -- WELL, SO ONE PERSON CAN SPEAK INSTEAD OF MANY. I HOPE THAT YOU WILL SEE THAT AS A FORTUITOUS OMEN AND THAT YOU WILL GIVE AS MUCH SUPPORT TO THE INTERIM CONFIGURATION AS WE SOUTH AUSTINITES DO. AND IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR ME TO GIVE MY LAST 53 SECONDS TO LARRY ACHERS, I'D LOVE TO. THANKS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL GIVE MR. AKERS 53 MINUTES -- [SIC] BENNETT DONOVAN. FOLLOWING MR. DONOVAN, IS MR. [INAUDIBLE] MR. DONOVAN, WELCOME, SIR.

THANK YOU, MY NAME IS BENNETT DONOVAN, PRESIDENT OF THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE OVER 200 PEOPLE ON OUR MAILING LIST AND 80 ACTIVE DUES PAYING MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. DANA STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE STAFF RECOMMENDED PACKAGE OF DOWNTOWN TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS. WE'VE HEARD THE PRESENTATIONS, DISCUSSED THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THE CHANGES AND COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR DOWNTOWN AND FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE. WE FORMALLY ENDORSE THE PACKAGE SINCE APRIL AND OUR SUPPORT HAS NOT WAIVERED. WE HAVE ANXIOUS TO SEE THE RECOMMENDATIONS 10 YEARS IN THE MAKING FINALLY IMPLEMENTED. THERE'S ONLY ONE VISION FOR DOWNTOWN AUSTIN THAT MAKES SENSE, IT'S A VISION THAT PROMOTES RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND PUTS HUMAN BEINGS ON EQUAL FOOTING WITH AUTOMOBILES. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS TRANSPORTATION PACKAGE WILL MOVE US TOWARD THAT VISION. IT WILL ACCELERATE THE MOMENTUM OF DOWNTOWN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BY MAKING DOWNTOWN A PLACE TO LIVE, WALK, AND EVENTUALLY SHOP. RETAILERS FOLLOW POPULATION. AND IF WE MAKE DOWNTOWN A PLACE WHERE MORE PEOPLE WANT TO BE, WANT TO LIVE, THE SHOPS WILL FOLLOW. DENSER DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT WILL INCREASE THE TAX BASE AND BENEFIT THE CITY AS A WHOLE. IT TAKES LEADERSHIP TO PURSUE A VISION. IT TAKES LEADERSHIP TO CHALLENGE THE STAT CUSS YOUR. THE -- STATUS QUO. THE COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO DEMONSTRATE LEADERSHIP BY PROMOTING DOWNTOWN'S FUTURE AS A VIBRANT LIVABLE COMMUNITY. AUSTIN IS ALREADY A CITY WITH GREAT ATTRACTIONS. DANA BELIEVES THESE CHANGES WILL HELP MAKE AUSTIN A GREAT CITY. THANK FOR YOU YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. DONOVAN. JORDAN BUCKLEY. MR. JORDAN BUCKLEY. OR BUCKLEY JORDAN. REGISTERED WISHING TO SPEAK AND AGAINST. CHARLESBE -- CHARLES BETTES, FOLLOWING HIM IS RICHARD ALEXANDER. IS RICHARD HERE? YOU WILL BE AFTER MR. BETTS. WELCOME, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M REPRESENTING THE DAA, THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE THIS EVENING. MY COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE FAIRLY SHORT. MR. WADE COOPER, OUR CURRENT CHAIR, WILL -- WILL INDICATE TO YOU VERBALLY OUR POSITION. I WANTED TO DO JUST ONE THING TONIGHT. I WANTED TO REFER BACK TO THE MOST RECENT RUDAT STUDY. AND READ JUST A COUPLE OF SHORT PARAGRAPHS THAT I THINK ARE VERY PERTINENT THIS EVENING. AS I KNOW YOU KNOW, IT'S THE REGIONAL URBAN DEVELOPMENT ACTION TEAM, WHICH IS A PROGRAM OF THE AIA, THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS, THAT HAVE COME TO OUR CITY UNDER THE REQUEST OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THE GREATER CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE AND THE ARCHITECTS. THEY HAVE VISITED THE SAME TEAM -- THE SAME TEAM HAS VISITED OUR CITY THREE TIMES. ONE OF THEIR SUGGESTIONS GAVE BIRTH TO OUR ORGANIZATION, THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE BACK IN 1991. BUT I WANTED TO READ A COUPLE OF REAL SHORT PARAGRAPHS THAT I THINK HAVE A BEARING ON YOUR -- ON THE DECISIONS THAT YOU WILL BE MAKING. TOP PRIORITY IN RUDAT 2000, DOWNTOWN NEEDS TO FOCUS ON THE OVERALL QUALITY OF THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE. YOUR INSTRUCTIONS TO THE STAFF ABSOLUTELY INDICATED THAT. ALL KINDS OF WONDERFUL PROJECTS ARE IN THE PIPELINE AND HAVE BEEN EXECUTED, BUT THE FABRIC WEAVING THOSE PROJECTS INTO A TOTAL EXPERIENCE ARE LACKING. GREAT STREETS HAS BEEN A PROGRAM WITH FEW SUCCESSES AND AS OF NOW NEEDS TO BECOME THE PRIORITY PROGRAM THAT MUST SUCCEED. AND GREAT STREETS IS NO MORE OR LESS THAN I AM APPROVED PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS. THE STREET AND PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT MATTER BECAUSE MANY OF THE BENEFITS OF ATTRACTING ACTIVITY AND USERS TO DOWNTOWN ARE ONLY FULLY REALIZED IF THEY BECOME PEDESTRIANS. IF THE NEW WORKERS, VISITORS, CONVENTION DELEGATES AND RESIDENTS DON'T USE DOWNTOWN ON FOOT, THEN THE POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IS LIMITED. SO IT'S NOT JUST A DESIGN CONCERN, IT'S A BASIC ECONOMIC CONCERN. DOWNTOWN STREETS NEED TO BE CALMER. THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR TWO-WAY STREETS WAS MADE IN 1991, AGAIN IN 1997, AND REPEATED IN THIS CONFERENCE. I WOULD REMIND -- AND I I DON'T NEED TO REMIND THE COUNCIL BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU ARE EXTREMELY FAMILIAR WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS. WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS DON'T RECOMMEND MAYBE AS IMPORTANT AS THE CHANGES THAT THEY RECOMMEND. THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO LEAVE THE MAJOR ACCESS STREETS COMING INTO DOWNTOWN FOR ACCESS AS ONE-WAY STREETS. FOR ABSOLUTE EASE OF INGRESS AND EGRESS TO DOWNTOWN. [BUZZER SOUNDING] IT'S ONLY THE -- THE NON-THROUGH STREETS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR THE ADVANTAGES OF TWO WAY CONVERSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, MR. BETTS, RICHARD ALEXANDER AND FOLLOWING MR. ALEXANDER IS MR. DICK KELLERMAN. MR. ALEXANDER WELCOME, SIR.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS RICHARD ALEX SAN ALEXANDER, I HAVE BEEN A RETAIL BUSINESSMAN IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN SINCE 1983. I FIND IT A LITTLE IRONIC THAT -- THAT THE FOLKS WHO ARE EXPRESSING THAT THEY ARE AGAINST TWO-WAY CONVERSION ARE ALL LOCATED ON TWO-WAY STREETS. I ALSO FIND IT IRONIC THAT THEY SAY THAT ONE-WAY IS THE MORE ACCESSIBLE WAY. IT SEEMS COUNTER INTUITIVE THAT ONE WAY COULD BE THE MOST ACCESSIBLE WAY WHEN IN ORDER TO -- IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A TURN ON TO A ONE-WAY STREET AND IT GOES THE WRONG WAY, YOU HAVE TO DRIVE AT LEAST THREE BLOCKS OUT OF YOUR WAY TO DO IT AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS A VERY GOOD DEFINITION OF ACCESSIBILITY. ALSO, WHEN YOU DRIVE THREE BLOCKS OUT OF THE WAY, YOU ALSO CROSS THREE -- THREE PEDESTRIAN CROSS WALKS, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU HAVE THREE TIMES MORE PEDESTRIAN CAR CONFLICT SITUATIONS WITH ONE WAY THAN WITH TWO WAY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A LOOK AT WHY PEOPLE SAY TWO WAY IS BETTER. IT IS BETTER BECAUSE IT CREATES THE PERCEPTION OF BUSINESS. THE PHYSIOLOGY OF ONE WAY IS THAT YOU HAVE A BLAST OF TRAFFIC, WHICH IS ONLY AS LONG AS THE LIGHT, WHICH IS -- WHICH IS UPSTREAM FROM IT. IT PUTS -- IT PUTS THROUGH, SAY, 30 SECOND OF TRAFFIC, THE LIGHT CHANGES TO RED, AND THEN FOR THE NEXT MINUTE OR SO, THERE IS NO TRAFFIC ON THE STREET. WITH TWO WAY THERE IS AT LEAST THE POSSIBILITY THAT YOU WILL HAVE SOME TRAFFIC GOING IN SOME DIRECTION MORE OFTEN, PROBABLY TWICE AS OFTEN. IF I'M RIGHT ABOUT MY NUMBERS, THEN A CITY STREET IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COULD BE VACANT FOR AS MUCH AS 40 MINUTES, AN HOUR, IN A ONE-WAY SNAWR SNAWR. BUT IT WOULDN'T BE VACANT FOR MORE THAN 20 MINUTES AN HOUR IN A TWO-WAY PLAN. THIS WILL ALSO, I BELIEVE, HAVE AN EFFECT ON CRIME. THAT IF IS THERE IS BUSINESS ON THE STREET AND THE PRESENCE OF WITNESSES, THERE IS LESS LIKELIHOOD FOR A CRIME TO OCCUR. SAND I THINK AND I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT FIFTH STREET AND SEVENTH STREET WHICH SIXTH STREET IS CLOSED AS AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT I'M SAYING. THOSE ARE THE TWO MOST VIOLENT STREETS IN THE DOWNTOWN. THEY ARE BOTH ONE WAY. [BUZZER SOUNDING] THANK YOU.

Goodman: THANK YOU. MR. KELLERMAN, DO YOU MIND IF I READGER GERARD'S CARD BEFORE YOU SPEAK. GERARD THE ARCHITECT MENTIONED EARLIER WAS HERE, WE HAVE HIS CARD. SINCE HE HAD TO LEAVE IT SAYS: MAYOR, SINCLAIRE BLACK AND I ARE RECEIVING AN AWARD FROM THE A.I.A. TONIGHT SO I HAD TO LEAVE. AS PRESIDENT OF SCENIC AUSTIN, AS JOINT VENTURE PARTNER OF SINCLAIRE BLACK, AS A DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNER AND AS A LIFE-LONG AUSTINITE, I THERE YOU TO SUPPORT -- I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND HELP US EVENTUALLY REALIZE A LIVABLE, WALKABLE DOWNTOWN THAT TWO WAY GREAT STREETS CAN PROVIDE. GERARD KINNEY. THANKS.

THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DICK KELLERMAN. I'M TRANSPORTATION CHAIR FOR THE REGIONAL SIERRA CLUB. AND THE SIERRA CLUB SUPPORTS THESE PROPOSALS. AND -- IN ITEM NO. 66. AUSTIN IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A DOWNTOWN RENAISSANCE. ANYBODY WHO WAS HERE 20 YEARS AGO KNOWS IT'S NOT THE SAME OLD DOWNTOWN ANYMORE. THERE ARE MANY OFFICE BUILDINGS GOING UP AND THEY ARE ALL SUPPORTED WITH PARKING GARAGES. THERE ARE MANY RESIDENTS GOING UP, ALL SUPPORTED WITH PARKING GARAGES, IN OTHER WORDS WE ARE GETTING PLENTY OF PARKING DOWNTOWN. LOTS OF PEOPLE WORKING DOWNTOWN, LOTS OF PEOPLE LIVING DOWNTOWN. IN FACT, COUNTY THE CRANES IN DOWNTOWN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANOTHER CITY IN THIS COUNTRY THAT HAS CONSTRUCTION CRANES LIKE WE DO DOWNTOWN, PARTICULARLY IN SUCH A SLOW PERIOD. SO -- SO IT HASN'T BEEN EASY GETTING ALL OF THIS DOWNTOWN AND YOU ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WE HAVE TO THANK FOR OUR CURRENT CONDITION OF RENAISSANCE. THE MOBILITY IS -- PUTTING MOBILITY MAY NOT BE EASY, CHANGING MOBILITY IS VERY DIFFICULT, AS YOU CAN HEAR TONIGHT. I -- ONE THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT PEOPLE SEEM TO FORGET, DOWNTOWN DOESN'T BELONG TO AUTOMOBILES. DOWNTOWN IS A VERY RICH, VARIED PLACE. AUTOMOBILES ARE JUST ONE OF THE -- ONE OF THE ITEMS DOWNTOWN. TOMMY B. EDEN SAID THAT ATTITUDES HAVE TO BE CHANGED. I SUGGEST IF YOU ARE DOWNTOWN GETTING CAUGHT IN TRAFFIC, INSTEAD OF FEELING ROAD RAGE, ASK YOURSELF, WHAT THE HECK AM I DOING DOWN HERE WITH THIS AUTOMOBILE? IT SHOULD BE HOME IN YOUR GARAGE, THERE'S PLENTY OF WAYS TO GET DOWNTOWN WITHOUT THEM. THE THIRD PART OF -- OF WHAT HAS TO GO DOWNTOWN BESIDES BUSINESSES AND RESIDENCES IS MOVEMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ITEM PROPOSALS, TO IMPROVE MOVEMENT DOWNTOWN. IT'S A THREE-LEGGED STOOL. TWO LEGS ARE PEOPLE WORKING, AND PEOPLE LIVING. THE SECOND -- THE THIRD LEG IS PEOPLE MOVING. A THREE-LEGGED STOOL IS AN EXTREMELY STRONG AND RUGGED, RELIABLE STRUCTURE. A TWO-LEGGED STOOL IS RTHLESS. IF WE SIMPLY DESIRE DOWNTOWN FOR AUTOMOBILES, GET MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WORKING AND LIVING DOWN THERE WITHOUT GETTING -- GIVING THEM THE ABILITIES TO MOVE AROUND, MORE RATIONALLY, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. WE HAVE STARTED A RENAISSANCE THAT'S GOING TO BE NIPPED IN THE BUD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Goodman: THANK YOU. LET ME CALL OUT THE NEXT FEW SPEAKERS, SO THAT YOU CAN BE READY TO TAKE YOUR OPPORTUNITY AT THE MICROPHONE. NEXT IS RICK JENKINS. IS MR. JENKINS HERE. OKAY. FOLLOWING IS BEVERLY SILAS. SHE DID?

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Goodman: WELL, SHE WOULD HAVE TO BE HERE TO DONATE IT. LET ME ASK IF THOMAS BUTLER, IS THAT YOU? SO YOU WANT YOUR TIME BACK TO SPEAK THEN?

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Goodman: OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME THAT AGAIN WHEN YOU -- WHEN YOU GET UP TO SPEAK. THANK YOU.

MAYOR, COUNCIL, MY NAME IS RICK JENKINS, I'M A PROPERTY OWNER DOWNTOWN. I ALSO AM A MEMBER OF THE DOWNTOWN ALLIANCE. I HAVE BEEN OFFICING DOWN FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF AUSTIN FOR THE LAST 30. IN OUR OFFICE BUILDING DOWNTOWN WE TIPULLY ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE PRESSURE FOR PEOPLE TO LEAVE DOWNTOWN TO GET TO THE SUBURBS WHERE MOBILITY IS EASIER. CONVERTING STREETS TO -- TO TO-WAY STREETS WILL MAKE OUR JOB MORE DIFFICULT. WE CONTINUE TO HAVE INCREASING AMOUNTS OF VACANCY IN OUR BUILDING, WHICH ARE INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO FILL. AFTER PULLING ALL OF THE -- POLLING ALL OF THE TENANTS IN OUR BUILDING, WE HAVE DISCOVERED THAT WE WILL ACTUALLY LOSE TENANTS IF MOBILITY BECOMES MORE DIFFICULT TO REACH DOWNTOWN. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION THAT THERE'S A MOBILITY PROBLEM IN AUSTIN. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WE ARE CHANGING THE STREETS IS GUARANTEED TO MAKE IT WORSE. SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NO QUESTION BUT WE HAVE A FINANCIAL AND A BUDGET PROBLEM AND -- IN AUSTIN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO HELP MAKE THE TRAFFIC BE WORSE. THE -- WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS TO HELP DOWNTOWN. AND TO HELP PROPERTY OWNERS DOWNTOWN BOTH RETAIL, OFFICE, WE DON'T BELIEVE THIS WILL DO IT. THANK YOU.

Goodman: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. BUTLER? WOULD YOU -- OH, OKAY. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SPEAK AT ALL? YOU ARE GIVING IT TO -- OKAY. TELL ME -- WADE COOPER. OKAY. IS COREY HUNKER HERE?

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I'M SORRY, YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO WHOM?

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Goodman: OH, OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO TALK? USE YOUR OWN TIME? OKAY. SO YOU DON'T WISH TO SPEAK. YOU ARE IN FAVOR? JANICE CARTWRIGHT. FOLLOWING JANICE IS MURRAY FREEMAN HERE? HE'S LIKE IN THE HALL OR SOMETHING. OKAY, THANK YOU. FOLLOWING HIM IS RANDY WRIGHT, WHO HAS TO LEAVE. WHO HAD TO LEAVE. HE IS AGAINST. AND WANTED THAT READ INTO THE RECORD. IS DAVID -- I'M SORRY, I'M NOT QUITE ABLE TO READ THIS. FIRMING? FLEMMING? FLEMMING. THAT WORKS. YOU ARE STILL WANTING TO SPEAK? OKAY. THEN YOU WILL FOLLOW -- IF MR. FREEMEN COMES BACK IN YOU WILL FOLLOW HIM, IF IT TAKES HIM A WHILE THEN YOU WILL BE FIRST, THANK YOU, JANICE.

MAYOR PRO TEM GOODMAN AND COUNCILMEMBERS, I'M JANICE CARTWRIGHT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL. I'M LOWER ON BEHALF OF RECA AND ITS 1100 MEMBERS MANY OF WHOM OFFICE DOWNTOWN, MANY OTHERS OF WHOM SUPPORT BUSINESSES AND HOMEOWNERS DOWNTOWN. WE ARE HERE IN SUPPORT OF CITY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE NEAR TERM C.B.D. PROJECTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FOUR PAIRS OF TWO-WAY STREET CONVERSIONS OUTSIDE OF THE SECOND STREET RETAIL DISTRICT. AS WE COMMUNE EXAITED TO THE -- COMMUNICATED TO THE COUNCIL IN JULY, RECA DID STUDY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS THE DOWNTOWN ACCESS MOBILITY PLAN OR THE DAMP REPORT RELEASED IN JULY. AFTER CAREFUL STUDY, RECA WAS UNQUENSED THAT THE CONVERSION -- UNCONVINCED THAT THE CONVERSION OF ONE-WAY STREET TO TWO WAY IS A NECESSARY PREREQUISITE TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS OF GREAT STREETS. IN FACT AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE THE DAMP REPORT MADE TWO IMPORTANT OBSERVATIONS WHICH ARE THAT DOWNTOWN AUSTIN CAN BE MADE MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY WITHOUT CONVERTING ONE-WAY STREETS TO TWO WAYS. SECONDLY THAT WIDER SIDEWALKS AND IMPROVED STREET SCAPE FOR ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL AND OPERATION COULD BE JUST AS EFFECTIVE ON ONE WAY STREETS AS THEY ARE ON TWO WAY STREETS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THE DAMP CONSULTANT WHO IS PREMIER TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANT HIRED BY THE CITY STRONGLY DISAGREED THAT IT WAS NECESSARY TO CONVERT THE ONE WAY STREETS TO TWO WAYS. SO BASED ON THE REVIEW OF THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS HIRED BY THE CITY, AND THE -- BECAUSE THEY ARE NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR EXPERTISE IN ASSESSING TRAFFIC SAFETY AND MOBILITY FOR ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THE DAMP'S PROFESSIONAL ASSESSMENT SHOULD WEIGH HEAVILY IN THIS DEBATE. WHILE RECA SUPPORTS AN ECONOMICALLY VITAL DOWNTOWN THAT IS PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, WE CANNOT SUPPORT THE CONVERSION OF 7th AND 8th STREETS, 9th AND 10th, BRAZOS AND COLORADO AND TRINITY AND SAN JACINTO BOULEVARD.

WYNN: MAYOR PRO TEM?

Goodman: COUNCILMEMBER.

WYNN: SORRY, MS. CARTWRIGHT. I WANT TO CONFIRM. RECA IS IN FAVOR OF THE PROHIBITION OF LEFT TURNS AT 5th AND 6th AT LAMAR AND ALSO IN FAVOR OF THE PROHIBITION OF LEFT TURNS ON CONGRESS AVENUE?

AT THE TIME THAT THE BOARD VOTED IN JULY, THEY DID SUPPORT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CITY STAFF.

WYNN: RECA IS ALSO IN FAVOR OF -- OF TAKING UP TWO OF THE LANES OF --

RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

WEST TO SOUTH FIRST STREET.

AT THE TIME THAT THE BOARD VOTED, THEY VOTED IN FAVOR OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

WYNN: THANK YOU.

Goodman: OKAY, THIS IS WHERE SINCLAIRE BLACK WOULD HAVE SPOKEN, AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE HE AND GERARD KINNEY ARE RECEIVING AWARDS AND ARE NOT HERE. BUT I AM NOT SURPRISED TO READ THAT HE IS IN FAVOR OF THE GREAT STREETS PLAN. IS MR. FREEMAN HERE YET?

NOT YET.

Goodman: WELL, I WILL TRY TO REMEMBER TO COME BACK TO HIM. MR. FLEMMING.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM GOODMAN AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND STAFF. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I'M DAVID FLEMMING, PRESIDENT AND C.E.O. OF THE FUTURE LONG CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS. THE LONG CENTER'S PRIMARY CONCERN IS WITH RIVERSIDE DRIVE BUT WE WILL SOON BE SHARING THE NEW BUILDING AT THIRD AND SAN ANTONIO THAT BALLET AUSTIN PURCHASED THERE. JUST BEFORE COOKIE RUIZ LEFT SHE ASKED ME IF I COULD ALSO PLEASE MENTION THEIR CONCERN ABOUT THE TWO-WAY STREETS THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE THOUSAND PLUS CHILDREN THAT HAVE TO BE DROPPED OFF THERE FOR THEIR ACADEMY. BALLET AUSTIN IS VERY CONCERNED THAT THE TWO-WAY STREET CONVERSION MAY AFFECT THOSE CHILDREN'S SAFETY. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT THE LONG CENTER, THAT WE VALUE THE LONG CENTER'S PLACE IN TOWN LAKE PARK. THERE ARE FEW, IF ANY, PLACES IN AMERICA IN WHICH A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND A COMMUNITY EVENTS CENTER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL SETTING AS THAT WHICH WE ARE DESIGNING HERE IN AUSTIN. WE WISH TO EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION TO CITY STAFF, EAL BRUCEARD THAT WILL RESULT IN ONE OF AMERICA'S MOST BEAUTIFUL URBAN PARKS. THERE IS, AS YOU ARE AWARE, SOME DISAGREEMENT AMONG THE TOWN LAKE PARK STAKEHOLDERS WITH RESPECT TO HOW RIVERSIDE DRIVE SHOULD SERVE THIS PARK AND THEIR FACILITIES. WE HAVE AT THE LONG CENTER HAVE NO CRYSTAL BALL THAT ALLOWS US TO SEE INTO THE FUTURE. WE CANNOT KNOW WHAT ROAD OR INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE NEEDED BECAUSE OF ALL OF THESE DOWNTOWN STREET CHANGES THAT MY OR MAY NOT OCCUR. BUT OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WHO WISH TO ENJOY THE GREAT EVENTS THAT WILL BE SCHEDULED AT THESE TWO CENTERS WILL NOT BE FRUSTRATED BY BUMPER TO BUMPER TRAFFIC AT CURTAIN TIME. ADVOCATES FOR THE PARK HAVE EXPRESSED A WISH FOR REDUCTION OF TRAFFIC IN TOWN LAKE PARK, THEIR DESIGNS L.B.J. FROM A MEANDERING TWO LANE PARK ROAD WITH SPEED CONTROL DEVICES TO A COMPLETE ELIMINATION OF ANY ROAD THROUGH THE PRIMARY SECTION OF THE PARK. THE LONG CENTER'S RESERVATION ABOUT ENDORSING EITHER OF THESE VIEWS OR EVEN WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU AS THE COMPROMISE PLAN WITHOUT OUR PARTICULAR AGREEMENT, IS THE SAME RESERVATION THAT WE HAVE EXPRESSED SINCE THE EARLIEST MASTER PLAN DISCUSSIONS YEARS AGO. THE PROBABILITY EXISTS THAT THE COMBINED ACTIVITIES AT THE LONG CENTER AND THE PALMER EVENTS CENTER WILL PUT A HEAVY NIGHTTIME DEMAND ON SURROUNDING ROADS AND INTERSECTIONS, THIS DEMAND HAS NOT YET BEEN PROPERLY STUDIED OR ESTIMATED. WE BELIEVE THAT RETAINING THE FULL CAPACITY OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE NOW WE KEEP THE FLEXIBILITY TO TEST VARIOUS OPTIONS AND IF NECESSARY TO PROVIDE SOME CONGESTION RELIEF AT NO ADDITIONAL COST. RIVERSIDE DRIVE IS CERTAINLY NOT A SINGULAR SOLUTION FOR TRAFFIC RELIEF, BUT IT MIGHT BE A NECESSARY COMPONENT. TO THAT END WE SUGGEST THAT A ROAM COURSE FOR THIS BODY MIGHT BE TO, NUMBER 1, PRIORITIZE PROPOSED STREET CHANGES FOR THE MOST PRODUCTIVE USE OF FUNDS [BUZZER SOUNDING] AND THE GREATEST IMMEDIATE CONGESTION RELIEF, APPROVE ANY CHANGES IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN STREETS IN A PHASED APPROACH, INCLUDING RIVERSIDE DRIVE, BUT AS THE LAST PHASE, AND REVISIT THE SUBJECT OF CHANGES TO RIVERSIDE DRIVE AT THE FIRST SCHEDULED REVIEW OF THE DAMP PLAN AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE -- AT THE FIVE YEAR MARK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Goodman: THANK YOU.

WYNN: MAYOR PRO TEM, EXCUSE ME AGAIN, MR. FLEMMING, IN ADDITION TO YOURS AND BALLET AUSTIN'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE TWO-WAY STREET ISSUE WITH YOUR ALL'S NEW FACILITY AND THE BALLET SCHOOL, BE AWARE THAT PART OF THE PROPOSAL HERE BY STAFF IS TO HAVE ON CESAR CHAVEZ WHAT WE CALL THE THIRD STREET SHUFFLE. THAT IS WESTBOUND CESAR CHAVEZ NOW TRANSVERSES DOWNTOWN ALONG THIRD STREET. AND THEN TURNS SOUTH AT SAN ANTONIO. SO THE IMPACT OF THAT WILL BE THAT THE BALLET SCHOOL, BALLET SAUCE AND ARTS -- BALLET SAUCE AND ARTS -- ARTS CENTER STAGE AT THE CORNER OF SECOND AND SAN ANTONIO WILL BE CUT OFF BY CESAR CHAVEZ FROM THE REST OF DOWNTOWN. SO IN FACT BALLET AUSTIN AND THE BALLET SCHOOL AND SATURDAYS CENTER STAGE WILL BE SEPARATED BY WESTBOUND CESAR CHAVEZ FROM REPUBLIC SQUARE, IT WILL BE SEPARATED FROM, YOU KNOW, CITY HALL, SO IN FACT YOU WILL BE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF CESAR CHAVEZ FROM DOWNTOWN IF THE -- IF THE THIRD STREET SHUFFLE IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

YES, SIR.

Goodman: I KIND OF THOUGHT HE KNEW THAT. SOUNDED LIKE HE DID. LET ME GO THROUGH, WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY MORE PEOPLE SIGNED UP, ONLY A COUPLE DON'T WANT TO SPEAK. LET ME GO THROUGH THOSE THAT WE HAVE LEFT AND SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHO IS STILL HERE AND WHETHER EVERYONE IS. CELIA KEMP, ARE YOU STILL HERE? OKAY, YOU WILL BE THE NEXT SPEAKER. BUT LET ME GO AHEAD THROUGH THE REST, YOU CAN GO HEAD ON UP TO THE MICROPHONE. ROBIN STALLINGS. LANE ROTH. WADE COOPER.

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Goodman: OKAY. AND THOMAS BUTLER ALSO GAVE YOU HIS TIME, SO WHEN YOU GET HERE, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES. ROSS SMITH, HAD NOT WANTED TO SPEAK, IS ROSS HERE? BUT IS IN FAVOR. THOMAS GUNTHER, IF -- YOU ARE STILL HERE. LARRY AKERS. STILL HERE. LET ME SEE IF YOU TWO PEOPLE HERE WHO GAVE YOU TIME. JOHN HAMILTON? IS JOHN HERE?

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Goodman: WE WILL CHECK AGAIN WHEN IT GETS THERE, JUST FOR THE MOMENT, KAREN CONOTTI. IS SHE HERE, OKAY? CHRIS RILEY. MORE SAY SEDANO, RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE LAST NAME HERE, SO LET ME APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF TIME. STUART.

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Goodman: THANK YOU. STANTON TRUIJILLO.

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Goodman: OKAY. WELL, THEN AT THE MOMENT HE HAS THE LAST WORD, I WILL READ THAT WHEN WE GET THERE. THARK YOU FOR -- THANK YOU FOR WAITING.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS. AND TO MAYOR GARCIA. I'M CELIA KEMP. I'M A LOCAL CYCLIST. EARLIER THIS EVENING I HEARD WHAT SEEMED TO BE MR. TOMMY EDEN BEING SCOLDED FOR NOT USING THE NEW PFLUGER BRIDGE PROVIDED FOR HIS NORTH-SOUTH TRAVEL AND FOR NOT USING THE CANTILEVER PROVIDED TO THE DRAKE BRIDGE. I WOULD LIKE TO BACK UP MR. EDEN'S STATEMENT, WITHOUT THE NORTHWEST ARM THE PFLUGER BRIDGE IS NOT COMPLETE AND THEREFORE USELESS FOR NORTH-SOUTH TRAVEL. I THEN HEARD A COMMENT THAT REGARDING TRANSPORTATION, CYCLISTS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO SEEK SAFER STREETS FOR THEMSELVES AS IF -- EVEN IF IT TAKES THEM 10, 15 OR MORE MINUTES OUT OF THEIR WAY. HEARING THIS, LED ME TO THE OBVIOUS QUESTION, WOULD YOU ASK A MOTORIST TO GO 10, 15 OR MORE MINUTES OUT OF THEIR WAY AND THEN TELL THEM THAT IT'S FOR THEIR OWN GOOD AND INSINUATE TO THE MOTORIST THAT IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO DRIVE ON SAFE STREETS AND THAT IT'S NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE THEM? THE COMMENTS THAT I HEARD TODAY REFLECTED A SENTIMENT THAT REGARDING TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, CYCLISTS ARE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS COMPARED TO MOTORISTS. I RESENT THAT. I'M A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. I CHOOSE TO RIDE A BIKE TO WORK. I HAVE PATIENTS TO SEE. APPOINTMENTS TO KEEP AND MEETINGS TO ATTEND. I DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE TIME IN MY DAY TO DILLEY DALI ABOUT TOWN ANY MORE THAN YOU DO, PLEASE DON'T EXPECT ME TO. BY TEXAS LAW, I HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO THE ROADWAYS AS MOTORISTS. PLEASE DON'T IMPLY THAT I'M IRRESPONSIBLE FOR BEING THERE. IF YOU WOULD NOT SAY THAT TO A MOTORIST AS WELL. IN MAKING ANY DOWNTOWN TRANSPORTATION RECOMMENDATIONS, I URGE YOU TO PLEASE DO SO IN LIGHT OF THE NEEDS OF PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS FIRST. AND PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE ANYTHING THAT WOULD DELAY THE COMPLETION OF THE NORTHWEST ARM OF THE PFLUGER BRIDGE, THANK YOU.

Goodman: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ROBIN STALLINGS. FOLLOWED BY LANE ROTH. FOLLOWED BY WADE COOPER.

HELLO, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL. THANKS VERY MUCH FOR A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THIS. THE PRINCIPALS THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT WITH THE -- WITH THIS DOWNTOWN MOBILITY PLAN, THE GREAT STREETS MASTER PLAN IS PRETTY LAUDABLE, A FRIENDLIER, A NICER PLACE FOR PEDESTRIANS DOWNTOWN. YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF MORE ACTION, MORE RETAIL. I'M JUST AFRAID THESE -- THESE PLANS AREN'T QUITE BAKED YET. I HAVE EVEN HEARD FREQUENTLY SAID THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR BICYCLES BECAUSE THE TWO WAYS WILL SOMEHOW BE BETTER FOR BICYCLES THAN THE ONE WAY. WE HAVE TWO WAY STREETS DOWNTOWN THERE NOW THAT AREN'T TOO GOOD FOR BICYCLES. I'M NOT SURE IT'S GOING TO GET A LOT BETTER WHEN WE CHANGE THE ONE WAY TO TWO WAY. WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY HERE WITH SOME OF THE THESE CHANGES TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT MODES, INCLUDING BICYCLES IN THIS PLAN. SEEMS THAT WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT BICYCLE EXPERTISE ON THIS THAT THE BICYCLISTS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE GREAT STREETS PORTION OF THIS PLAN DISAGREED WITH EVERYTHING. THE CYCLISTS -- WHEN THE GREAT STREETS HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE CYCLING CLUB, WE DISAGREED. IT'S NOTHING FOR BICYCLES, SEEMS TO NOT EVEN REFERENCE THE BICYCLE PLAN. IT'S ONE THING IF WE CANNOT ACCOMMODATE BICYCLES IN THIS PLACE ACCORDING TO THE BICYCLE PLAN BECAUSE OF X, X AND X. WE ARE NOT BEING UNREASONABLE. BUT WHEN IT'S NOT EVEN ALLUDED TO, NOT EVEN LOOKING AT THE PLAN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, THERE'S -- THERE'S VERY FEW SOLUTIONS THAT ARE EVEN BEING TALKED ABOUT THAT CAN -- THAT CAN INCREASE MOBILITY, DECREASE CONGESTION, AND IMPROVE AIR QUALITY, YOU KNOW, BICYCLES ARE NEARLY IT. THERE ARE ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE FOR AND I DRIVE A CAR, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CHANCE IF WE DO MORE THAN JUST PAY A LITTLE BIT OF LIP SERVICE, HOW CAN WE MAKE IT SAFE FOR PEOPLE TO BIKE OR WALK DOWNTOWN? IT'S A SIMPLE THING. AND NOT EASY TO DO. BUT A SIMPLE IDEA AND I BELIEVE THAT AUSTIN, THE HOME OF LANCE ARMSTRONG, AND SOON TO BE EVENTUALLY THE HOME OF THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY, WE HAVE A CHANCE TO DO SO MUCH MORE. TO MAKE THIS A CITY THAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT WHEN THEY THINK OF BICYCLES, THAT WILL MAKE IT MORE VIBRANT, MORE LIVABLE AND THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKE WAY HAS BEEN PAIRED DOWN TO STRIPED BIKE LANES ON FOURTH STREET. NOW THE MERCHANTS GROUP, I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THE WAREHOUSE MERCHANT ASSOCIATION, THEY WEREN'T HERE WHEN WE PASSED AND APPROVED AND ALL OF THEIR COLLEAGUES ALONG FOURTH STREET ASKED FOR AND APPROVED THAT CORRIDOR FROM THE NEW HILTON TO THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER PEOPLE TO MERCHANTS ALL UP AND DOWN THE -- THAT CORRIDOR. AND I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT AND -- BEFORE WE THROW IT OFF ON TO THIRD STREET. I WOULD PREFER THAT WE WENT WITH THE ENGINEER'S PLAN, TO DO A TWO-WAY CORRIDOR DOWN THE MIDDLE OF FOURTH. IT WAS CREATIVE, EXCITING AND IT WOULD MAKE IT A SPECIAL DESTINATION TO GO TO. I THINK WE ARE LOSING AN OPPORTUNITY THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING THIS TIME.

Goodman: THANK YOU. MR. FREEMAN, ARE YOU BACK? FOLLOWED BY LANE ROTH. WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS, MICROPHONES, SO IF YOUR NAME IS UP AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO GO AHEAD TO THE UNUSED MICROPHONE AND BE READY TO GO. THAT DOES SPEED IT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE] FREEMAN, I LIVE AT THE RAIL YARD ON FOURTH STREET AND ALSO ON BRAZOS AND SAN JACINTO. IT'S REALLY IN THE CORE OF THE AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE PROPOSED TO BE CHANGED BY THE -- THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN MOBILITY PLAN. I THINK AN ASPECT THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD DISCUSSED VERY MUCH IS THE SECURITY IN THE EVENING. AND IT'S MY BELIEF, AS A -- I LIVE DOWNTOWN, BEEN THERE ABOUT FIVE YEARS NOW, AND I TRAVEL BY FOOT A LOT, WALK AROUND A LOT. AND HAVE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC. SEE HOW THINGS FLOW. PART OF THIS PLAN IS ACTUALLY INVOLVING REMOVING A LOT OF PARKING AREA ON FOURTH STREET. I THINK HAVING THOSE CARS THERE AT NIGHT AND HAVING TRAFFIC THERE AT NIGHT ACTUALLY INCREASES THE SAFETY, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING BACK AND FORTH. PART OF THE PLAN THAT WOULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF THAT PARKING ON FOURTH STREET WOULD MEAN AT NIGHT THERE'S MUCH LESS TRAFFIC. AN EXAMPLE OF KIND OF THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT'S PROPOSED FOR THE GREAT STREETS WOULD BE THE AREA IN FRONTS OF THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER ON FOURTH STREET. IT'S A VERY WIDE SIDEWALK, IT IS PART OF THE LANCE ARM ARMSTRONG BIKE WAY, THAT AREA IS REALLY QUITE UNSAFE I THINK AT NIGHT. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT ACTUALLY BE WALKING DOWN THERE. THERE'S VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC. THERE'S VERY LITTLE FOOT TRAFFIC. I DON'T THINK THAT THE NEW HILTON IS REALLY GOING TO HELP THAT MUCH BECAUSE THE OPPOSING SIDE IS A PARK. SO IF THERE WERE CARS ON THAT AREA, PEOPLE LOOKING FOR PARKING SPACES, THEY WOULD BE PARKING THEIR CARS, COMING AND GOING, IT INCREASE A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC. SO IN THE COMPARISONS THAT ARE MADE WITH OTHER CITIES, FOR THIS TWO-WAY STREET AND REMOVING PARKING AS PART OF THE BYPRODUCT OF THAT, I'M NOT SURE IF THOSE OTHER CITIES HAVE AS ACTIVE AND VIBRANT A NIGHT LIFE AND REALLY A DUAL USE. DOWNTOWN AUSTIN AROUND FOURTH STREET, SIX STREET AREA IS DYNAMIC, BOTH IN THE DAYTIME AND AT NIGHT. AND I THINK SOME OF THESE CHANGES REALLY WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON EVENING SAFETY. THE OTHER ISSUE IS I -- I HAVE SEEN THE PLANS FOR THE -- FOR THE WIDER SIDEWALKS. IN REALITY, I THINK IN THE DAYLIGHT, 100-DEGREES FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE A LOT OF THE AREA IS REALLY GOING TO BE USED FOR STREET CAFES AND SO ON BECAUSE THE ADJOINING AREAS DO NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING A PLAN STREET BY STREET SHOWING BASICALLY WHAT AREAS OF DOWNTOWN ARE COMMITTED TO HIGH RISE BUILDINGS, TO PARKING GARAGES, STRUCTURES, RESIDENTIAL AREAS LIKE THE RAIL YARD, BRAZOS LOTS OF, THAT HAVE NO CHANCE FOR DOWNTOWN NEW RETAIL GROUND LEVEL RETAIL. [BUZZER SOUNDING] WITHOUT GROUND LEVEL RETAIL IF THOSE STREETS AREAS, IT'S NOT OBVIOUS TO ME WHAT STORES WOULD BENEFIT BY THE SLOWER TRAFFIC OF TWO WAY. SO MUCH OF IT ACTUALLY IS COMMITTED TO OTHER PURPOSES THAT IS LIMITED. SO I'M AGAINST IT, THANK YOU.

Goodman: THANK YOU. MR. ROTH. AND WADE COOPER WILL BE NEXT. SO -- SO OH, THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE. GO AHEAD.

MAYOR PRO TEM, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MY NAME IS LANE ROTH. I OWN THE BOYS CELLAR, A NIGHTCLUB AT 214 WEST FOURTH STREET. I HAD A WHOLE PREPARED SPEECH HERE AND VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING ON THE LIST HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS. SO I WANTED TO TAKE A WHOLE DIFFERENT TACT WITH YOU. I GREW UP IN SAN ANTONIO. I MOVED TO AUSTIN IN 1980. I WAS A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER FOR 21 YEARS. WHEN I MOVED HERE IN 1980, I IMMEDIATELY WENT TO WORK FOR NEIMANN, HANKS, PURRIER WAS THERE FOR 11 YEARS. I SPECIALIZED IN HOTEL DEVELOPMENT AND SALES NATIONWIDE, REPRESENTED THE LARGEST JAPANESE FIRM IN -- IN TOKYO, GGS INCORPORATED, IN THEIR ACQUISITION OF HOTELS NATIONWIDE. I KNOW ANDED IN THE TOURISM BUSINESS AS I -- I KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THETURISM -- THE TOURISM BUSINESS. I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT IF YOU LOOK OR LISTEN TO EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE TONIGHT, EVERYBODY HAS GOT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OPINION. AND WHAT'S WRONG HERE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CONSENSUS. WE DON'T HAVE A CONSENSUS BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A PROPER DEVELOPMENT BOARD THAT CONSISTS OF DOWNTOWN BUSINESS PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE DURING THE DAY, DURING THE NIGHT, I SPEND MOST OF MY TIME DOWNTOWN AT NIGHT. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY NUMBER ONE PROBLEM IS TRANSIENTS. THEY ARE KILLING MY BUSINESS. I CANNOT LEAVE MY BUSINESS AT NIGHT WITHOUT BEING ESCORTED BY FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE TO MY CAR. AND I'M NOT KIDDING YOU. THIS IS THE GOD'S HONEST TRUTH. AND THE GREAT STREETS PROGRAM, WHILE IT HAS ITS MERITS, PUTTING MORE PARK BEVERAGES, WIDE -- MORE PARK BENCHES, WIDER SIDEWALKS, THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER WAS ABSOLUTELY ON TARGET, IT IS GOING TO SET UP A WHOLE PRECEDENT FOR MORE CRIME. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE ARE ON AN AVERAGE NIGHT WE THROW FIVE TRANSIENTS OUT OF OUR BAR ON AN AVERAGE NIGHT. I HAVE TO HAVE THEODOREMEN NOW. THREE DOORMEN IN ORDER TO KEEP THEM FROM SLIPPING IN BETWEEN PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY COME IN AND HARASS PEOPLE AND SO ON. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE HEARD ALL OF THIS BEFORE, SO -- YOU KNOW, THAT -- THIS WHOLE PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS NOT NEW. BUT THE WAY THINGS ARE SET UP RIGHT NOW, WE ARE GOING TO END UP JUST LIKE SAN FRANCISCO. LET ME TELL YOU THAT WHAT I WAS -- WHEN I WAS IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS, I COMMUTED BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN SAN FRANCISCO AND AUSTIN. FROM 1984 TO 1986, AS I USED FISHER FREEDMAN ARCHITECTS IN SAN FRANCISCO AS MY PRIMARY DEVELOPMENT ADVISER. [BUZZER SOUNDING] I SUGGEST THE BEST MONEY SPENT IS FOR EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL TO GET ON A JET, FLY TO SAN FRANCISCO, SPEND A FEW WEEKS OR SPEND A FEW DAYS THERE, WALK AROUND THE GOLDEN GATEWAY COMMONS AREA AND YOU WILL SEE AUSTIN 10 YEARS FROM NOW. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WAS NEARLY RUN OVER ON AT LEAST 10 DIFFERENT OCCASIONS TRYING TO CROSS TWO WAY STREETS. BECAUSE DURING RUSH HOUR, YOU HAVE GOT TRAFFIC GOING AND COMING BOTH DIRECTIONS, YOU LAND UP -- LOCKED RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF -- OF A STREET, TRYING TO -- IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CROSS WALK, WITH TRAFFIC GOING BOTH WAYS. IT'S -- IT'S A NIGHTMARE. BUT --

Goodman: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU?

Goodman: WHEN THE BUZZER WENT OFF.

> I HEARD THE BUZZER, I HEARD THE BUZZER.

I WILL WRAP IT UP. WHAT I AM TELLING YOU THAT -- I WANT TO SUMMARIZE. THIS NEEDS TO BE TABLED. ABSOLUTELY TABLED. THERE NEEDS TO BE A PROPER COMMISSION PUT TOGETHER OF DOWNTOWN BUSINESS PEOPLE TO RESTUDY THIS ON A STREET BY STREET BASIS AND THEN AND ONLY THEN SHOULD TAX DOLLARS BE FUNDED TOWARD THIS. THANK YOU.

Goodman: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW IT'S TRUE WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY FOLKS LEFT, BUT DO LET'S TRY TO STICK TO THE THREE MINUTES AND COUNCILMEMBERS CAN ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS AT THE END, TOO BE AND EXTEND THE TIME. IN THE MEANTIME, THOUGH, THERE ARE FOLKS WAITING FOR THEIR TURN THANK YOU FOR WAITING.

MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCILMEMBERS, MY NAME IS WADE COOPER, I'M THE CURRENT CHAIR OF THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE.

Goodman: LET ME STOP YOU FOR JUST A SECOND. HE'S GOT SIX MINUTES. COULD YOU PUT SIX ON THE TIMER, THANK YOU, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR TAKING TIME TO HAVE THIS DEBATE. I THINK WE ALL HERE IN THE ROOM SHARE THE COMMON GOAL OF TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO MAKE OUR DOWNTOWN AN ENJOYABLE, HEALTHY, ACCESSIBLE PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY. THIS IS A -- A SPIRITED AND VIGOROUS DEBATE, BUT I THINK WE SHARE A COMMON GOAL WHICH IS HOW TO MAKE OUR DOWNTOWN A BETTER PLACE. ON APRIL 16th OF THIS CAREER, PARDON ME, THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UNANIMOUSLY, I WANTED TO STOP, TO PAUSE, TO -- TO ACCENTUATE THAT. UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO SUPPORT ALL OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE NEAR TERM CHANGES TO THE DOWNTOWN STREETS. I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE TO YOU, THE BOARD MEMBER, 34 MEMBERS TO OUR BOARD, ALL VOLUNTEERS, WE ENCOMPASS A WIDE RANGE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE A VERY LARGE COMMITMENT TO DOWNTOWN. LARGE PROPERTY OPENERS, MEDIUM SIZED PROPERTY OWNERS, THERE ARE SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS, THERE ARE TENANTS, THERE ARE OTHERS WHO JUST WORK DOWNTOWN, SO WE ENCOMPASS A BROAD RANGE OF PEOPLE WHO ALL HAVE A GREAT STAKE IN DOWNTOWN. THE STAKE IS SOBERING THAT MEMBERS OF THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE, IN ADDITION TO THE REGULAR AD VALOREM TAXES PAY AN ASSESSMENT TO FUND THE WORK OF THE D.A.A. TO MAKE DOWNTOWN A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY. SO OUR MEMBERSHIP LIVES, WORKS AND PLAYS DOWNTOWN AND PAYS IN ADDITION TO THE REGULAR PROPERTY TAXES AN ASSESSMENT, THE BECAUSE THEY ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING DOWNTOWN A BETTER PLACE. WE BELIEVE THAT THESE CHANGES OFFER SEVERAL ADVANTAGES TO DOWNTOWN. FIRST, WE THINK THE CHANGES PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN. AND THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S POLICY OF PROMOTING GROWTH IN THE LEAST ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA IN THE REGION. THAT'S DOWNTOWN. WE THINK THIS ENCOURAGES ACCESSIBLE DOWNTOWN. THE DAA CONSIDERS ACCESS TO DOWNTOWN CRITICAL. PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE AND GET AROUND ONCE THEY GET THERE. WE BELIEVE THAT THESE PROPOSALS KEEP THE MAJOR ACCESS ROUTES -- KEEPING THE MAJOR ACT ROUTES ONE WAY ENCOURAGES ACCESSIBLE. BUT THE IMPROVEMENTS, MAKING THE CHANGES TO TWO WAY, WE THINK HELP ACCESSIBILITY ONCE YOU GET DOWNTOWN. THE THIRD WE THINK IS AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE LIVABILITY AND THE PLEASANTNESS OF DOWNTOWN. HAVING A DOWNTOWN THAT IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE, THAT HAS A SENSE OF PLACE, IS -- IS OUR MOST IMPORTANT GOAL. THE SENSE OF -- THE SENSE THAT THIS IS AN INTERESTING FUN PLACE TO BE IS WHAT WE ARE AFTER. WHEN THE CITY BROUGHT THE RUDAT TEAM, REPEATEDLY, NOT ONCE, TWICE, BUT THREE TIMES TO AUSTIN TO STUDY IT, THEY CONSISTENTLY SAID THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE GREAT STREET PROGRAM AND THEY CONSISTENTLY SAID THAT A ROLE IN THAT IS THE TWO-WAY CONVERSION ON THE NON-TRAFFIC BEARING STREETS, THE NON-ACCESS STREETS. I WANT TO PAUSE FOR A MOMENT TO COMMENTS ON THE REMARKS MADE ABOUT THE WILBER SMITH STUDY. WILBUR SMITH WAS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER ASKED TO DO TRAFFIC STUDIES. HE WAS NOT ASKED TO DESIGN THE GREAT STREETS PROGRAM. YOUR DESIGN CONSULTANTS STRONGLY ENDORSED THE CHANGES. THE MODELING THAT WILBUR SMITH DID, DID NOT SHOW ANY MATERIAL DIFFERENCE TO THE TWO-WAY CONVERSION. SO YOU HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER WHO SAYS WE DON'T NEED TO DO IT, BUT THE ACTUAL MODELING, WHICH IS WHAT YOU HIRED HIM TO TOO, SHOWED NO -- TO DO, SHOWED NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THOSE STREETS THAT WERE SUGGESTED TO BE CHANGED TO TWO WAY STREETS. NO CONTRAST, YOUR DESIGN CONSULTANTS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED THE CHANGES. THE EXPERTS THAT CAME INTO TOWN, THE PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATED IN RUDAT STRONGLY SUGGESTED THOSE CHANGES. WHY, BECAUSE THE STREETS ARE MORE PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLIST FRIENDLY, DRIVERS TEND TO BE MORE ALERT AND RESPONSIVE ON TWO WAY STREETS, BECAUSE TWO WAY STREETS ARE TRANSIT FRIENDLY, THEY ALLOW FOR MORE DIRECT AND EFFICIENT ROUTING OF BUSES, MORE DRIVER FRIENDLY BECAUSE THEY INCREASE DRIVER CHOICE AND THEY ALLOW THE DIRECT PATHS TO DESTINATIONS, WE BELIEVE THEY ARE MORE BUSINESS FRIENDLY BECAUSE THEY OFFER MORE EXPOSURE AND ACCESSIBILITY TO THE BUSINESSES LOCATED ON TWO-WAY STREETS. LIKE ONE OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS, I WANTED TO STOP FOR A MOMENT AND TEASE OUR GOOD FRIEND EDDIE WHO DIFFERS WITH US ON THIS OPINION. BUT I WOULD POINT OUT TO THE COUNCIL, WHAT ED -- WHEN EDDIE DECIDED WHERE TO INVEST AND BUILD HIS RESIDENCE DOWNTOWN HE CHOSE A TWO-WAY STREET. WE THINK HE MAKES THE CASE FOR US. TO SUMMARIZE, THESE PROPOSED CHANGES HAVE STRONG AND BROAD BASED COMMUNITY SUPPORT. ENDORSED BY THE AUSTIN AMERICAN-STATESMAN, THEY HAVE BEEN ENDORSED BY THE AUSTIN BUSINESS JOURNAL, THEY HAVE BEEN -- OR THE AUSTIN CHRONICLE HAS ALSO BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THE CHANGES. AND OFFERED A PARTICULARLY INSIGHTFUL ANALYSIS OF THE MATTER IN ITS OCTOBER 4 ISSUE. AS YOU HAVE HEARD SUPPORTED FOR COMMUNITY ALSO CAME FROM THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE SIERRA CLUB, THE AUSTIN COUNCIL FOR -- OF THE BLIND, THE AUSTIN HOTEL AND MOTEL ASSOCIATION, SCENIC AUSTIN, CENTRAL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, AUSTIN METROPOLITAN TRAILS COUNCIL, THE LOCAL CHAPTER OF THE AIA AS WELL AS THE MANY SPEAKERS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD TONIGHT AND PREVIOUSLY. WE SINCERELY HOPE THAT WITH THIS KIND OF BROAD AND STRONG SUPPORT, YOU WILL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE JOINTLY TO WORK TO BUILD A GREAT DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. THANK YOU.

Mayor Garcia: THOMAS -- MR. THOMAS GUNTHER. GUNTHER AND FOLLOWING MR. GUNTHER IS MR. LARRY AKERS, WELCOME, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. [ONE MOMENT PLEASE FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS] CLER CLER.

THEY HAVE ASKED ME TO COME DOWN AND ADVOCATE FOR MORE BIKE LANES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. BICYCLING IS VERY LOW IMPACT. IT'S VERY CHEAP TO PRODUCE A BIKE LANE. AND AGAIN, AS I SAID, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF SAFETY ISSUES WITH STUDENT AT U.T. PRETTY MUCH ON A DAILY BASIS I GET, YOU KNOW, CALLS FROM STUDENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT SAYING THAT THEY GOT HIT, AND SO SAFETY IS A MAJOR CONCERN AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS WHERE BIKE RIDERSHIP IS VERY HIGH. I THINK THAT FOR AUSTIN WE NEED TO DEVELOP A CITY WITH MANY MOBILE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION IN ORDER FOR IT TO GROW RESPONSIBLY. YOU'VE SEEN THAT CERTAIN NEIGHBORS SUCH AS AUSTIN -- I'M SORRY, LIKE HOUSTON, LOS ANGELES AND FEE 46, FOR INSTANCE, HAVE BEEN -- PHOENIX HAVE BEEN PLAGUED BY THEIR RELIANCE ON CARS AND AUTOMOBILES. AND IN ORDER FOR A CITY TO GROW RESPONSIBLY WE NEED TO HAVE DIFFERENT FORMS OF TRMTION, SUCH AS BIKES, BUSES, RAIL, ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION. SO BASICALLY IN CONCLUSION I WOULD JUST LIKE TO RECOMMEND YOU ALL TO IMPLEMENT BIKE LANES WHEREVER IT'S POSSIBLE TO ENSURE THE LONG-TERM SAFETY AND TO ENSURE MOBILITY IN THE AUSTIN AREA IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.

Mayor Garcia: MR. LARRY ACRES. THANK YOU, MR. ACRES. YOU HAVE NINE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I PROBABLY WON'T TALK THAT LONG. I'M LARRY ACRES. I REPRESENT THE FRIENDS OF THE PARK AS A STAKEHOLDER IN THE TOWN LAKE COMMUNITY PARK PROJECT. AND I'M ASKING THAT YOU ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, VIS-A-VIS RIVERSIDE DRIVE, AS HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU BY MR. LIBRACH. AS YOU KNOW, AFTER THE PAST YEAR SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE PROJECT HAVE RAISED OBJECTIONS TO THE MODELING THAT WAS DONE DURING THE DAMP STUDY ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE, ESSENTIALLY OVER THE -- THE ISSUE THAT THE CLOSURE WAS MODELED WITHOUT MITIGATING MEASURES TO ASOSH THE LOST CAPACITY AND CONNECTIVITY IF RIVERSIDE DRIVE WERE TO BE EVENTUALLY COMPLETELY CLOSED THROUGH THE HEART OF TOWN LAKE PARK. IS STAFF HAS NOW RECOGNIZED THAT SHORTCOMING AND WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH DOING THAT MODELING WORK, BUT THE FACT THAT THAT'S NOT BEEN DONE TO DATE HAS PRESENTED US WITH A TIMING PROBLEM IN THAT WE'RE STILL INDID HE Z-SIEVE ABOUT THE ULTIMATE FATE OF THIS STRETCH OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE. AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE PHASE 2 OF THE TOWN LAKE PARK DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WILL ENCOMPASS THE AREA WEST OF THE LONG CENTER AND THE NEW PALMER EVENTS CENTER, THE PLANNING IS COMPLETELY FINISHED, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS ARE IN THE VERY FINAL PHASES OF BEING DRAWN UP AND CONSTRUCTION IN THAT PART OF THE PARK WILL BEGIN NEXT MONTH. AND WE'RE LEFT IN A BIT OF A LUNCH IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO PROCEED WITH -- WE WOULD BE IN A LUNCH IF WE HAD TO PROCEED WITH THE PRESENT CONFIGURATION OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT STAFF AND STAKEHOLDERS ARRIVED AT THIS INTERIM PROPOSAL THAT WOULD ALLOW PHASE 2 OF THE PARK, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE AREA SOUTH OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE TO PROCEED AS CONCEIVED IN THE ORIGINAL TOWN LAKE PARK MASTER PLAN IN A TIMELY MANNER. IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW FOR THE TIMELY MODELING AND DECISION OF THE ULTIMATE FATE OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE WITHOUT INTERRUPTING PROGRESS ON THE PARK DEVELOPMENT. ASPECTS OF IT WILL ALLOW HANDLING THE CUEING OF BUSES AND TRAFFIC ROUTING INTO THE GARAGE FROM THE NORTH END OF THE DEVELOPMENT. ONE NICE THING ABOUT IT IS AFTER THE MINIMUM DESIGN IT HAS A CAP OF DEVELOPMENT UNLIKE THE ORIGINAL STAFF RECOMMENDATION. WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME PARTS OF THE ROADWAY WITHOUT DOING VERY MUCH RECONSTRUCTION IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE CONFIGURATION THAT WE'RE AFTER FOR THE NEAR TERM. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT DOES NOT FORECLOSE ANY OPTIONS FORESEEBLY NEEDED FOR MOBILITY OR FOR THE FUNCTION OF THE FACILITIES IN THE NEAR TERM. SOME OF THE SPECIFIC FEATURES ARE THAT IN THE NORTHWEST END OF THE PARK WE DO NEED A PARKING LOT. AND THE INTERIM PLAN WILL ALLOW US TO USE PART OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND ITS ACTUAL ROAD BED FOR THAT PARKING LOT. IF WE DIDN'T DO THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO SCIEWM A REALLY PRECIOUS PIECE OF THE WESTERN END OF THE PARK TO CONSTRUCT THAT PARKING LOT, AND IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE HEART OF ONE OF THE NICEST AREAS OF THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT. SECONDLY, IT WOULD DISPLACE SOME OF THE OTHER ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES IN THE PARK, MOST NOTELY OF BLUEBONNET HILL, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE OUT IN THE OPEN. IT SHOULD BECOME ONE OF AUSTIN'S PREMIERE SPRINGTIME PHOTO OPZ, BUT IF WE HAD TO RETAIN THE ROADWAY, IT WILL PUSH IT UP INTO THE TREES IF ITS IMPACT WILL BE GREATLY REDUCED. BUT PERHAPS MOST CRITICALLY IT WILL ALLOW THE OPENING OF TOWN LAKE PARK IN ONE OF ITS MOST VITAL AREAS, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL. IT'S GOING GOING TO BE SPECTACULARLY SUCCESSFUL AND I THINK IT WILL BE A HUGE DRAW FOR A VERY LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. BUT IF WE RETAIN THE ROADWAY IN ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION, WE'LL HAVE THAT INCREDIBLE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY IN THE PRESENCE OF VERY FAST TRAFFIC, AND IT'S BEEN PROPOSED THAT WE UTILIZE SOME OF THE LANES DURING SOME HOURS FOR PARKING, BUT THAT'S A DANGEROUS SITUATION TOO WHEN YOU HAVE BEDS NOT HAVING CLEAR LINES OF SIGHT INTO THE ROADWAY AND WITH THIS MUCH PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY. BUT WE'VE HEARD SOME OBJECTIONS FROM THE LONG CENTER PEOPLE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REQUESTING BASICALLY THAT WE RETAIN THAT CURRENT CONFIGURATION. AND UNTIL AFTER THE NEW FACILITIES ARE ALL FINISHED AND OPENED. BUT -- AND THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD -- THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME TEST CLOSURES DONE ON THE GROUND WHEN THE FACILITIES ARE IN OPERATION. BUT WE RUN THE RIFG OF SAYING ALL THIS TO DEATH. AND JUST TO REHASH SOME OF THE HISTORY OF THIS, THE VERY FIRST TRAFFIC DUD STUD THAT WE DID PRIOR TO THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS ESTABLISHED THAT ACCESS TO EVENTS IN BOTH FACILITIES WOULD BE ADEQUATE EVEN IF RIVERSIDE DRIVE WERE COMPLETELY REMOVED. THE SECOND STUDY, WHICH WAS DONE AT THE SAME TIME, ESTABLISHED THAT THE PARKING FOR THE VENUE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE ADEQUATE AND THE DEMAND NUMBERS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY THE CONVENTION CENTER DEPARTMENT AND BY ARTS CENTER STAGE, THE INCARNATION OF THE LONG CENTER. THE THIRD STUDY ESTABLISHED THAT IF WE COMPLETELY CLOSED RIVERSIDE DRIVE THAT IT WOULD INDUCE ONLY A SEVEN SECOND DELAY ON COMMUTES ACROSS THE RIVER ON AVERAGE DURING PEAK HOURS UNDER CURRENT TRAFFIC LOADS. THE FOURTH STUDY, WHICH WAS THE FIRST PHASE OF THE DAMP STUDY, SHOWS THAT UNDER THE OPTIMAL TRAFFIC LOAD SCENARIO, IT WOULD BE BEST NOT TO HAVE ANY EASTBOUND TRAFFIC ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE AT ALL. WE'D BE BETTER OFF WITHOUT IT. AND THAT ONLY ONE LANE OF WESTBOUND CAPACITY WOULD BE NEEDED IN THAT PORTION OF THE STREET THAT LIES WITHIN THE HEART OF THE PARK, PROVIDING WE HAD THE FAN OUT AT THE INTERSECTION. SO SOMEHOW THERE'S THIS NOTION THAT WE SHOULD WAIT ANOTHER FIVE OR SIX YEARS AND DO SOME TESTING ON THE GROUND. WELL, THAT'S A PROBLEM TOO ABUSE TEST CLOSURES OF ROADWAYS IS REALLY THE WORST POSSIBLE METHODOLOGY FOR EVALUATION. THEY CREATE THE SITUATION, PARTICULARLY WITH EVENTS COMING IN, WHERE PEOPLE FROM DAY-TO-DAY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. AND WHEN THEY ENCOUNTER A TEST CLOSURE, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR ALTERNATIVES ARE. IT'S JUST AN UNSTABLE SITUATION THAT PEOPLE CAN'T COMPENSATE FOR. PEOPLE DO ADJUST TO WHATEVER TRAFFIC LAYOUT IS ON THE GROUND, PROVIDED A STABLE SITUATION. MORE IMPORTANTLY IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR ANY KIND OF MITIGATION. SOME OF THE MEASURES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO USE TO ABSORB THE TRAFFIC ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE WOULD REQUIRE SOME MINOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, SOME PERHAPS NOT TO MINOR, BUT IN ANY CASE, THAT COULD NOT BE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE SCENARIO OF A TEST CLOSURE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO ALL THAT WORK TO SUPPORT A TEST. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE FIFTH TEST CLOSURES ARE BYE-BYE ASKED STRONGLY TOWARDS FAILURE. BUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ALL THESE STUDIES GOING ON AND SO FAR ALL THE STUDIES LET THE INTERIM PROPOSAL FIT CLEANLY WITHIN THEIR LIMITATIONS AND THE FACT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH SOME FURTHER STUDY, PROCEED WITH THE ULTIMATE COMPLETE CLOSURE BEGS THE QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, WELL, WHAT'S THE POINT OF ANALYSIS ANYWAY? SO A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY. BACK IN THE EARLY DAYS OF PLANNING THE PROJECT, ARTS DID AGREE WITH THE GOAL OF CREATING CONTINUOUS OPEN SPACE FROM BARTON SPRINGS ROAD TO TOWN LAKE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. THAT WAS A GOAL. DURING THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS, WHEN WE HAD TO DEAL WITH MAKING ALL OF OUR MUTUAL GOALS WORK, THE HARDEST THING TO WORK OUT WAS HOW TO ACCOMMODATE THE SERVICE YARD NEEDS -- [ BUZZER SOUNDS ] IS THAT MY NINE MINUTES? OKAY. WELL, I'LL SKIP OVER THAT.

Mayor Garcia: YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T GOING TO USE THEM ALL, BUT YOU DID.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT HAPPENED. I JUST GET STARTED. ANYWAY, PARKS DID AGREE ULTIMATELY TO THE MASTER PLAN THAT SHOWED THAT RIVERSIDE WOULD BE CLOSED. AND WE EXPECT THAT THEY SHOULD ABIDE BY THAT AGREEMENT. AS WE HAVE ABIDED BY ALL OF THE OTHER TERMS OF THE MASTER PLAN. SO I HOPE YOU'LL ENDORSE AND ACCEPT THE STAFF INTERIM PROPOSAL. IT'S A VERY GOOD ONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, MR. ACRES. MR. CHRIS RILEY. WELCOME, SIR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL. THIS WON'T TAKE LONG.

Mayor Garcia: THAT'S WHAT LARRY SAID. [ LAUGHTER ]

I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO TAKE THREE MINUTES. MY NAME IS CHRIS RILEY. I'M A LONG TIME DOWNTOWN RESIDENT, CYCLIST, PEDESTRIAN. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND AUSTIN METRO TRAILS AND GREENWAYS. I'M HERE TONIGHT IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE PACKAGE PROPOSALS IN FRONT OF YOU, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE THREE GENERAL POINTS ABOUT THOSE PROPOSALS. FIRST I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS PACKAGE. HOURS AND HOURS ON A NUMBER OF STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN FOLDED INTO THIS PACKAGE. IT'S BEEN EXHAUSTEDLY RESEARCHED, DELIBERATED AND DISCUSSED, AND THIS PACKAGE IS THE PRODUCT OF ALL THAT WORK. THE SECOND POINT IS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY MODERATE PACKAGE. I THINK THERE'S A SENSE IN MY CORNERS THAT THIS PACKAGE IS AIMED AT JUST GETTING CARS OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN. APPEARED I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE AT ALL. THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TELLnq US THAT THE DELAYS THAT MIGHT RESULT FROM THESE PROPOSALS WOULD BE MEASURED IN JUST A FEW SECONDS. THERE WERE OTHER PROPOSALS ON THE TABLE. THEY COULD HAVE ACTUALLY POSSIBLY CONTRIBUTED TO MUCH MORE DELAY. AND SOME OF THOSE PROPOSALS HAD STRONG SUPPORT FROM ME AND OTHER PEOPLE. ONE OBVIOUS ONE IS POSSIBLE CONVERSION OF CESAR CHAVEZ TO TWO-WAY. THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND A NUMBER OF OTHER GROUPS STRONGLY SUPPORT THE ULTIMATE CONVERSION OF CESAR CHAVEZ TO TWO-WAY SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE A GRAND BOULEVARD BETWEEN THE LAKE AND THAT PART OF DOWNTOWN. AND WE STILL HOPE THAT WILL BE DONE SOME DAY. ANOTHER PROPOSAL I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WORKED ON IN THE FUTURE IS BIKE LANES. SEVERAL COMMISSIONS, A NUMBER OF GROUPS HAVE SPOKEN OUT IN FAVOR OF HEARINGS FOR A BICYCLE PLAN AND PUTTING LIKE LANES ON GUADALUPE AND LAVACA. AND I STILL HOPE WE CAN DO THAT IN THE FUTURE. SO THIS PACKAGE DOESN'T HAVE EVERYTHING THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IN IT, BUT THAT LEADS ME TO MY THIRD POINT, WHICH IS THAT THIS IS NOT AN ENDING POINT, IT IS A BEGINNING, ACTUALLY A FAIRLY SMALL STEP, BUT I THINK IT IS A TREMENDOUSLY IMPORTANT STEP BECAUSE THAT'S A THOUGHT IN A NEW DIRECTION. FOR TOO LONG WE'VE TREATED OUR DOWNTOWN STREETS AS IF THEIR ONLY FUNCTION IS TO MOVE MASSIVE VOLUMES OF TRAFFIC AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE THROUGH DOWNTOWN. AND WHAT THIS PACKAGE REPRESENTS IS A RECOGNITION THAT OUR DOWNTOWN STREETS CAN BE FAR MORE THAN THAT, THAT OUR DOWNTOWN CAN BE A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO BE, WHERE WANT TO GO AND LIVE AND PLAY, AND ENJOY THE URBAN SETTING THAT'S THERE, INSTEAD OF JUST ZIPPING THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. I THANK THE COUNCIL FOR ITS CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF THE PACKAGE AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE WORKING TOWARDS THAT ULTIMATE GOAL IN FUTURE OF MAKING OUR DOWNTOWN A PLACE THAT -- A PLEASANT PLACE TO BE AND NOT JUST A PLACE TO ZIP THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THANKS. [ BUZZER SOUNDS ]

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU, MR. RILEY. BOY, THAT WAS GOOD TIMING.

MY NAME IS HOR RAY. I'M A TRUSS TREE OF ARTS CENTER STAGE. I'VE BEEN A CITIZEN OF AUSTIN FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS. ABOUT THIS TIME FOR YOU FOUR YEARS AGO IN 1998, I ALONG WITH MANY IN THIS ROOM WAS INVOLVED IN EFFORT OF GETTING AUSTIN VOTER APPROVAL FOR A INITIATIVE THAT WOULD BRING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AUDITORIUM SHORES TO BE USED BY ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN. AND I EXPRESS ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN. THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN SUPPORTED THE COMPLETION OF THE PARK AND THE CREATION OF THE NEW PALMER EVENTS CENTER AND GARAGE, ALL WITH PUBLIC FUNDS. AND THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE OLD PALMER AUDITORIUM INTO THE NEW LONG CENTER WITH PRIVATE FUNDS. WE ARE OUR TENANTS, WE ARE THIS CITY'S TENANTS. WITH THESE FOUR DRIVERS OF ECONOMIC GROWTH IN PLACE, THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN WOULD NOT ONLY FULLY ENJOY ONE OF THE BEST AREAS THIS TOWN HAS TO OFFER, BUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE RESULTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR OUR CITY. I'M VERY PROUD AND VERY THANKFUL TO BE A PART OF THIS PROJECT. TODAY WHILE THE PALMER EVENTS CENTER AND THE GARAGE ARE COMPLETE AND THE PARK IS UNDERWAY, THE LONG CENTER IS NOT EXPECTED TO OPEN UNTIL 2006. WE WILL OPEN. FOR THIS REASON, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT YET FULLY OPERATIONAL, WE BELIEVE IT IS TOO EARLY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS AFFECTING THE FLOW OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE, WHICH IS A MAJOR ARTERY THAT PROVIDES A MAIN ACCESS NOT ONLY TO THE LONG CENTER, BUT ALSO TO THE OTHER THREE ELEMENTS OF THE AUDITORIUM SHORES PROJECT. THE RECOMMENDATION TO CLOSE DOWN ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE WAS BASED ON A STUDY THAT ONLY TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR EVENING EVENTS AND PERFORMANCES RUSH HOURS. TODAY WITH ONLY THE PALMER EVENT CENTER OPEN AND WITH A FULLY OPERATIONAL RIVERSIDE DRIVE, WE ALREADY ARE EXPERIENCING LONG WAITS TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE AREA. AND AGAIN, I EMPHASIZE THAT THIS -- THIS FACILITY IS FOR THE USE OF ALL THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN. THEY NEED TO GET ACCESS TO THE AREA. IMAGINE, HOWEVER, WHEN THE LONG CENTER IS OPEN, EACH OF THE PALMER EVENTS CENTER AND THE LONG CENTER HAVING A MAJOR FUNCTION AND THERE'S ONLY ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE TO GAIN ACCESS TO THIS AREA AND ENJOY A PERFORMANCE. I CAN ONLY THINK OF ONE THING, GRIDLOCK. WE PROPOSE, HOWEVER, A MUCH MORE SENSIBLE APPROACH AT THIS TIME, WHICH IS TO WAIT UNTIL BOTH FACILITIES ARE OPEN AND THEN CONDUCT A STUDY THAT TRULY REFLECTS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE DON'T EXPECT THIS TO TAKE TOO LONG, 2006. AN ADAGE COMES TO MIND WHICH PHYSICIANS TAKE -- [ BUZZER SOUNDS ] VERY HARD TO THEIR HEART, WHICH IS DO NO HARM. CITY COUNCIL, DO NO HARM.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU. STEWART GARDENER. AND THEN THE LAST SPEAKER AND INDICATING THAT HE DOES NOT WANT TO SPEAK, I'LL READ HIS COMMENTS INTO THE RECORD AFTER MR. WORDNER COMPLETES, STANTON TREVINO. WELCOME, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I AM A REGULAR BICYCLE COMMUTER AND MEMBER OF THE AUSTIN CYCLING ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS FREQUENT PEDESTRIAN. I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE RESOLUTION WITH SOME RESERVATIONS. THE FIRST BEING THAT THERE'S NO MOTION IN THE RESOLUTION OF THE NEED TO EXTEND THE PFLUGER BRIDGE. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT IF WE DO NOT EXTEND THE PFLUGER BRIDGE AND WE EXTEND IT BY SOME OTHER EFFECTIVE MEANS THAT WILL CROSS CESAR CHAVEZ AND CONNECT TO THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY DOWNTOWN IN THE SIXTH AND LAMAR SHOPPING AREA. AND DO IT VERY SOON. I'M ALSO FOR CONVERTING ONE-WAY STREETS TO TWO-WAY STREETS IN GENERAL AS IS MENTIONED IN THE RESOLUTION. I THINK THAT THE INCREASED FOOT TRAFFIC WILL IN FACT REDUCE CRIME AND INCREASE THE POPULARITY OF THE AREA. HOWEVER, MY CONCERN IS OVER THE PROPOSED THREE-FOOT WIDE SAFETY ZONES FOR CYCLISTS ON THESE 44-FOOT WIDE STREETS. WITH HIGH VOLUMES OF TRAFFIC AND PARKING, I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS LIMITED WIDTH MAY NOT BE -- MAY BE UNSAFE. I'D LIKE TO DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THIS SITUATION AND A SIMILAR SITUATION ON SHOAL CREEK WHERE A NARROW CYCLING ZONE HAS BEEN PROPOSED, AND THAT HAS MUCH LOWER VOLUMES OF TRAFFIC, MUCH LESS PARKING ON IT. SO AGAIN, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA I THINK WE NEED MORE -- WE NEED AN INCREASED WIDTH OF THESE SICK LIFT SAFE ZONES -- CYCLIST SAFE ZONES. AND LASTLY, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE EXISTING BIKE LANES ON GUADALUPE BY THE CAMPUS EXTENDED FURTHER SOUTH INTO DOWNTOWN ON GUADALUPE AND LAVACA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS ON THIS PROPOSAL, AND I APPRECIATE IT.

Mayor Garcia: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. STANTON TREVINO LEFT THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS: I AM NEITHER FOR NOR AGAINST TWO-WAY STREETS, BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT THE PRESENT MODEL DOES NOT INCLUDE ADEQUATE SPACE FOR CYCLISTS. A THREE-FOOT WIDE SAFE ZONE NEXT TO A LINE OF PARKED CARS WORKS WG IN A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL STREET. ON A BUSY DOWNTOWN STREET IT IS A RECIPE FOR FREQUENT COLLISIONS BETWEEN CYCLISTS AND OPENING DOORS OF PARKED CARS. PLEASE REVISE THE STANDARD 44-FOOT STREET TO ALLOW MORE SPACE. AND COUNCIL, THAT'S ALL OF THE SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 66. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WYNN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

Mayor Garcia: OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO TO ONE, WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM TEMPORARILY OFF THE DIAS. OKAY. COUNCIL, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? LET ME ALSO READ INTO THE RECORD -- LET ME JUST SAY THAT -- NOT READ INTO THE RECORD, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT REPRESENTATIVE KEEL SENT US A LETTER ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE STATE MAY BE CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED HERE. SO IF THIS ISSUE BECOMES A LEGISLATIVE ISSUE, WE NEED TO BE READY TO TALK TO THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY. ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE REPRESENTATIVE KEEL SENDING US A LETTER. COUNCIL, THE THE CONSENT VOTE FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE THAT WAS READ INTO THE RECORD BY MR. AUSTAN LIBRACH, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING -- PLANNING AND SUSTAINABILITY HAS 15 ITEMS THAT GO ALL THE WAY FROM THE LAMAR BOULEVARD FIFTH AND SIXTH STREET CONGRESS LAMAR TO BARTON SPRINGS ROAD, SECOND STREET TO THE TWO-WAY, AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 15 ITEMS. THE SEPARATE PART OF THE RESOLUTION DEALS WITH THOSE ITEMS THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS DIRECTED TO FORM THE FOLLOWING INITIATIVES AND STUDIES AS RESOURCES AND FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. THAT LEAVES SEVEN ITEMS. AND THE LAST, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE FOLLOWING POLICIES FOR IMPLEMENTATION SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF RESOURCES. AND THAT HAS THREE ITEMS. SO I SUSPECT THAT, CITY ATTORNEY, THAT WE COULD DISCUSS ANY ONE OF THESE ITEMS AND THEN PASS A RESOLUTION OR CONSIDER THE RESOLUTION BY FIRST CHANGING ANY PART OF IT, AMENDING ANY PART OF IT. AND IF THERE'S A MOTION TO ADOPT IT AND THEN CONSIDER IN THE WHOLE RESOLUTION.

YOU COULD CONSIDER IT IN PIECES AND WHATEVER RESULT IS YOUR VOTE, THEN THE CITY CLERK CAN MAKE NOTE OF IT IN A MINUTE.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. THE LAST PART, THE LAST BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, HAS THREE ITEMS THAT WE CAN DISCUSS FIRST BECAUSE THESE ARE ONES THAT WE'RE ADOPTING POLICIES SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY OF RESOURCES AND FUNDS. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. NUMBER ONE IS BEFORE THE TRAFFIC FLOW OF ANY DOWNTOWN STREET SEGMENT IS SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED, CITY STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDER GROUPS ON A BLOCK BY BLOCK, DEVELOPMENT BY DEVELOPMENT BASIS TO IDENTIFY AND MITIGATE OPERATIONAL ISSUES ARISING FROM THE CHANGE. AND ON THIS ONE, MR. LIBRACH, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM INVOLVES, WHAT IT ENTAILS?

YES. WE WOULD -- MAYOR, WE WOULD MEET INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS SAY ALONG BRAZOS, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THAT WAS THE STREET THAT WAS TO BE CONVERTED TO TWO-WAY, BUILDING BY BUILDING, BLOCK BY BLOCK, AND WORK WITH THOSE BUILDING OWNERS AND TENANTS ON THE ISSUES THAT IF THERE ARE ANY WITH REGARD TO INGRESS AND EGRESS AND CHANGES THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT IN FACT A TWO-WAY STREET WOULD WORK BEFORE WE WOULD ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD TO DO IT. SO IF WE WERE TO RUN INTO THE ISSUES THAT COULD NOT BE RESOLVED, THEN I THINK WE AT THAT POINT WOULD THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY THERE'S -- IT'S NOT ABLE TO CONVERT EASILY WITHOUT CONSIDERABLE EXPENSE.

> Mayor Garcia: BECAUSE THE FIRST BE IT RESOLVED SAYS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE FOLLOWING CONCEPTUAL PROJECT LIST AND DIRECTS THE CITY MANAGER TO PROCEED WITH FEASIBILITY STUDIES AND ENGINEERING AND DESIGN AS NEED AND PROCEED WITH IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROJECT WHEN RESOURCES AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE. SO THE FACT THAT WE PASS THIS RESOLUTION DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING AT THIS JUNCTURE OTHER THAN WHAT IS INDICATED IN THE INTRO DUCTTORY PARAGRAPH OF THE OPERATIVE PART OF THE RESOLUTION, CORRECT?

THAT'S CORRECT. IN SOME CASES HERE, AS I INDICATED EARLIER IN MY REMARKS, YOU'VE ALREADY FUNDED SOME ASPECTS OF THESE FIRST 15, AND WE'RE MOVING AHEAD WITH ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING STUDIES. AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WE WOULD DO WITH THE REST, ENGINEERING, DESIGN FEASIBILITY. TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE MINIMAL IN COST, LIKE I THINK THE FIRST ONE IS ONLY SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS IN COST FOR CHANGING SIGNS. FOR THOSE WE WOULD NOT COME BACK TO COUNCIL UNLESS THAT WAS THE WILL OF COUNCIL. WE WOULD SIMPLY GO FORWARD AND DO THOSE THAT ARE UNDER THE 40,000-DOLLAR LIMIT, I BELIEVE IT IS, FOR APPROVAL BY COUNCIL.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. AND ON THE PEAK HOUR FROM LAMAR TO FIFTH AND SIXTH, PEAK HOUR WOULD BE LIKE FROM 7:00 TO 9:00 AND 4:00 TO 6:00?

THAT IS CORRECT. AND WE MIGHT WANT TO FINE TUNE THAT WITH THE ENGINEERING STAFF. THAT'S NOMINALLY THE TIME FRAME, YES.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MAYOR PRO TEM?

Goodman: I HAVE A COUPLE THAT CAME UP AS PEOPLE SPOKE, AND I WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION WHILE I WAS WATCHING OR LISTENING. ONE WAS ABOUT THE USERS, SO TO SPEAK, OR THE STAKEHOLDERS OR WHATEVER. AND ONCE WE DISCUSSED AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THESE A PRETTY LONG TIME AGO, I THINK SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ANYWAY, ABOUT HOW TO GET INPUT FROM NOT NECESSARILY A PROPERTY OWNER OR A BUSINESS OWNER, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO DROVE EVERYDAY TO WORK SOMEWHERE OR WHO WORKED IN AN OFFICE BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I'LL COME BACK TO THAT, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE MY QUESTIONS. I WAS WONDERING IF WE EVER WERE ABLE TO IT THAT. AT THAT TIME I WAS THINKING WE COULD TRY THE STOREFRONT THING AGAIN, AND I KNOW THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE -- THE WAY WE DID WITH CITY HALL, ACTUALLY HAVE A PLACE THAT LARGE CHARTS AND EVERYTHING SO PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY LOOK AND SEE IN ARN OVERALL FRAME KIND OF WHAT THE IMPACTS WERE. ANOTHER WAS I WANTED TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE PUBLIC POLICY OR WHAT IS AUSTIN'S CITY POLICY ON MAINTENANCE OF PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY DOWNTOWN AND IN URBAN SETTINGS? I KNOW IN A SUBURBAN OR RESIDENTIAL SETTING AT LEAST THERE'S AN ISSUE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT ABUTS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BEING THE ENTITY THAT TAKES DAILY CARE OF THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY. AND IT WAS RELATIVE TO A SPEAKER MENTIONING THAT TREES HAD NOT BEEN PRUNED OR WHATEVER, SO I KNOW IN A RESIDENTIAL SETTING THAT CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY IS SOMETHING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE THAT I HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE TREES, BUSHES OR WHATEVER, SO I WANTED TO FIND OUT WHETHER THERE WAS A DIFFERENT EXPECTATION FOR DOWNTOWN OR IN AN URBAN, MORE PAVED SETTING. AND THE THIRD WAS DO WE HAVE MONEY AT THIS MOMENT FOR ANY OF THESE THINGS?

OKAY. ON THE FIRST ONE, MAYOR PRO TEM, THERE HAS BEEN IN YOUR BACKUP INFORMATION THAT I THINK WAS ALLUDED TO BY ONE OF THE SPEAKERS REGARDING A SURVEY THAT WAS DONE ON THE INTERNET, AN INTERNET SURVEY THAT FOLKS WERE ABLE TO GET TO THE CITY PAGE COULD GET TO AND FILL OUT. AND WE'VE HAD THAT INTERNET SURVEY UP AND HAVE BEEN TALLYING THE RESULTS FOR I'M GOING TO GUESS ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS NOW. AND THE RESULTS OF THAT ARE IN YOUR BACKUP. WE PERHAPS COULD DO SOME ADDITIONAL WORK IN THAT AREA TO PROCEED NOTE MOET THAT SURVEY. WE COULD KEEP IT UP FOR THE NEXT PERIOD OF TIME, FOR PERHAPS THE NEXT FEW YEARS WHILE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THIS AND PERHAPS CHANGE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS TO WE'LL GET MORE INFORMATION AND DO MORE TO ADVERTISE THAT IN OFFICE BUILDINGS AND PLACES. SO I THINK WE HAVE THE BASIC FRAMEWORK FOR THE KIND OF THING THAT I THINK YOU MAY BE ASKING ABOUT AND HAVE ATTEMPTED TO TRY TO GET SOME INITIAL REVIEW FROM THE CITIZENS WHO DRIVE INTO TOWN WHO ARE COMMUTERS. AND I THINK PERHAPS WITH NOT MUCH INVESTMENT COULD DO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THAT AREA. ON THE SECOND ITEM, ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, I THINK I MAY NEED SOME HELP ON THIS, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT MAINTAINS THE TREES ON CONGRESS. AND THAT IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IT IS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WHO GENERALLY SPEAKING HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY, WHETHER IT'S DOWNTOWN OR IN SUBURBAN LOCATIONS. I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INVESTING MORE TO PUT MORE TREES AND MORE AREAS DOWNTOWN DOES BECOME A GREATER BURDEN FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THERE ARE ISSUES THERE THAT I THINK ARE STILL TO BE RESOLVED AS TO HOW TO MAINTAIN THEM. I THINK THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS HERE MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT, IF YOU'D LIKE.

IN REFERENCE TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE --

Mayor Garcia: COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

JESUS ALAVARES WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. WE NORMALLY GET A CALL FROM THE DOWNTOWN ALLIANCE, CHARLIE BETTS' OFFICE, AND WE DO OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE AND ANY OF THE BRANCHES AND SO FORTH ARE NOT GOING TO POKE ANYBODY IN THE EYES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE DO MAKE AN EFFORT TO GO OUT AND TRIM THOSE TREES, FIRST OF ALL, FOR THEM TO BE SAFE.

ON THE THIRD ITEM, IF I MAY, YOUR QUESTION WAS ABOUT FUNDING THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT. COUNCIL HAS ACTUALLY APPROVED SOME FUNDING FOR SOME OF THESE ALREADY. I GUESS IN A WAY WE'VE GOTTEN OUT OF SEQUENCE A LITTLE BIT, AND THIS IS THIS REVIEW OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, THESE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE TAKEN SO LONG THAT YOU ALREADY APPROVED THE QUARTER-CENT FOR 2002, AND THAT HAD IN IT SOME MONEY FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE, SECOND STREET. YOU FUNDED A PORTION OF THE NEXT PHASE OF THE WORK, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING FOR SECOND STREET. WE HAD IN THE MATERIALS THAT AGAIN ARE IN YOUR BACKUP THAT I DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, WE HAVE SUGGESTED FOR EACH OF THE ITEMS AT LEAST ONE POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCE WHERE FUNDING COULD COME FROM THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED. AND ONE OF THE WAYS IN WHICH WE STRUCTURED THIS SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO BEGIN WITH WAS THAT WE SET OUT TO NOT COME UP WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD REQUIRE NECESSARY -- NECESSARILY REQUIRE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, A NEW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BUDGET ITEM TO GO BEFORE THE VOTERS AT THE NEXT TIME THAT YOU HAVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS VOTE. INSTEAD, THIS WAS -- THE ATTEMPT WAS TO KEEP THIS SHORT-TERM OR NEAR TERM RECOMMENDATION AND, QUOTE, EXPENSE IT SO THAT WITH AVAILABLE FUNDING SOURCES. SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED FUNDING SOURCES THAT I CAN'T SAY ARE THERE IN THE SENSE THAT WE WOULD FUND THESE BECAUSE THEY STILL WOULD NEED YOUR APPROVAL, THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL ON AN INDIVIDUAL VOTE. AS THE MAYOR WAS REFERRING TO EARLIER, IT WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL AS THE ENGINEERING STUDIES ARE DONE AND SEEK YOUR APPROVAL AND MOVE FORWARD. MOST -- SOME OF THE FUNDING POTENTIALLY WOULD COME FROM NEXT YEAR'S AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR'S QUARTER-CENT DOLLARS. SOME OF THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE FROM THE 1998 BONDS THAT WERE SET ASIDE FOR GREAT STREETS. THERE'S MONEY THERE FOR THAT. THERE IS --

Goodman: CAN YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH THAT IS?

I BELIEVE IT'S FOUR MILLION. SOME OF THE FUNDING COULD ACTUALLY BE MADE AVAILABLE FROM THE SET ASIDES THAT WE STARTED I BELIEVE IN -- I BELIEVE ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO TO SET ASIDE MONEY FROM PARKING METERS DOWNTOWN ABOVE A SPECIFIC AMOUNT THAT WE SET ASIDE FOR GREAT STREETS. THAT -- THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY IS GROWING. IT HASN'T BEEN TAPPED AT THIS POINT AND IT AVAILABLE POTENTIALLY FOR SOME OF THIS OR FOR SIMILAR GREAT STREETS KIND OF ACTIVITIES. SO I COULD -- I COULD GUESS GIVE YOU A MORE DETAILED LIST, BUT WE DO IN FACT HAVE SUGGESTIONS FOR YOU FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE ITEMS FOR WAYS THIS COULD BE FUNDED.

Goodman: THE REASON I ASK IS SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE THE LEAST CONTROVERSIAL ARE ALSO THE MOST EXPENSIVE. AND I WOULDN'T SUSPECT THAT WE COULD PAY FOR THEM, EVEN PHASING IF WE PICKED MORE THAN ONE OF THEM OUT OF CURRENT OPERATING COSTS, EVEN USING THE MAINTENANCE AS YOU MENTIONED ALREADY. SINCE WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT ARE LIKE ESTIMATED TO BE SIX MILLION ALTOGETHER, 5-POINT 2, 802,000, 700,000. AND I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAVE MORE THAN A HANDFUL AT A TIME AND STILL LIKE AT THANKSGIVING DINNER, TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING TO BE READY AT THE EXACT SAME MOMENT.

COUNCILMEMBERS, THERE IS A CHART THAT WAS PREPARED IN YOUR BACKUP THAT LISTS FOR THE FIRST 15 RECOMMENDATIONS POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCES SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT COULD BE USED FOR FUNDING SHOULD THE COUNCIL WISH TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION. AND FOR ITEMS FIVE AND SIX, THE MOST EXPENSIVE, MOST OF THOSE FUND WOULD COME FROM -- COULD COME FROM THE QUARTER-CENT. AND IN FACT, YOU HAVE ALREADY APPROVED ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE SECOND AND THIRD STREET.

Goodman: I GOT THAT CHART FROM LISA. I HAD NOT HAD THAT. I KEPT FORGETTING TO ASK. SO I'M USING THE POWERPOINT.

THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR APPROACH THAT WILL TAKE NOT ONLY THE STAGING OF THE TWO-WAY STREET CONVERSION AS YOU MOVE FARD, BUT AS YOU SAY THE FUNDING AND ALSO THE FACT THAT THERE'S LIMITED AMOUNT OF STAFF TO ACCOMPLISH THE WORK OF PREPARING AND DOING THE ENGINEERING AND MOVING FORWARD. SO IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT ALL CAN BE DONE WITHIN A YEAR OF YOUR APPROVAL.

Goodman: THANKS. THANKS, MAYOR.

LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, MR. LIBRACH. YOU SENT US SOMETHING THAT IS CALLED VOTE CONSENT ON SEVEN SECTIONS. WHEN YOU GROUPED THEM IN THE REZ LEWIS, THEY'RE GROUPED BY GROUP A, GROUP B AND GROUP C. WHEN YOU DID THIS AND YOU SAID THAT THIS IS A GROUP OF INITIATIVES THAT COULD BE PASSED BY CONSENT, DID YOU MEAN THAT THIS GROUP HAD ACCEPTANCE BY ALL THE DIFFERENT GROUPS? BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS LISTED BY DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY, SO TO SPEAK, AND IMPLEMENTATION AND COMMUNITY ACCEPTANCE.

IT WAS MY ATTEMPT TO TRY TO LIST THEM BY DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY. AND THE FIRST GROUP, WHICH INCLUDES EVERYTHING ON THIS FIRST PAGE ARE THINGS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THERE WAS A BASIC CONSENT OR CONSENSUS IN FAVOR. THAT THERE HADN'T BEEN -- AND I SHOULDN'T SAY ANY OPPOSITION, BUT THERE HADN'T BEEN SUBSTANTIAL OPPOSITION TO ANY OF THESE, BUT THAT THESE WERE ONES THAT SEEMED -- AND I HESITATE, BECAUSE I'M SURE SOMEBODY WILL DISAGREE, THAT SEEMED TO HAVE CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN IT GOT A LITTLE HARDER FROM THERE ON.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. QUESTIONS, COUNCIL?

Alvarez: JUST A FOLLOW-UP TO MAYOR PRO TEM'S ABOUT THE FUNDING. BECAUSE WE TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT BICYCLE, CYCLING ISSUES AND TALKED ABOUT TRINITY AND SAN JACINTO TWO-WAY AS A WAY OF FACILITATING THAT. AND AS A BACKUP IN TERMS OF THE FINANCIAL PLAN OF WHAT EVERYTHING COSTS, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT AND IT'S MENTIONED THAT IT WOULD COME UNDER CIP. DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ALLOCATE THAT FUNDING FOR FUTURE CIP PLAN OR WOULD THAT -- IS THAT ALREADY LIKE A LINE ITEM OR A SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THAT CIP IMPROVEMENT?

YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER. OF THE SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS EACH FOR THE TWO-WAY CONVERSION IS WHAT WE THINK THAT THERE IS EXISTING CIP MONEY AVAILABLE AND I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO DO MORE WORK TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH MONEY IS REALLY NEEDED FOR THE CONVERSION AND THEN GET WITH THE BUDGET FOLKS TO MAKE SURE THAT IN FACT CIP IS AVAILABLE. THAT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT OUT OF THE '98 BONDS OR OUT OF THE 2000 BONDS THERE WOULD BE FUNDS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER TO USE.

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN.

Wynn: THANK YOU. MR. LIBRACH, A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. ONE, I DO WANT TO ADD ON TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM'S FUNDING QUESTION. I HEARD IN IT ALSO THE CONCEPT OF MAINTENANCE, AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT PERHAPS THE ULTIMATE ORIGIN OF THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE WAS A BUNCH OF DOWNTOWN PROPERTY OWNERS WHO PAY A STAGGERING DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAXES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA OF THE CITY AND THE TAXES THAT ARE PAID THERE, THE FRUSTRATION WITH OVERALL LACK OF MAINTENANCE DOWNTOWN, WHETHER IT WAS SIDEWALK CLEANING OR TREE PLIEWN PRUNING OR GRAFITTI REMOVAL, SAFETY ISSUES WITH THE LACK OF POLICE PRESENCE EVEN IN DOWNTOWN STREETS. SO IN FACT THE ULTIMATE ORIGIN OF THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE ARE A BUMPLG OF PROPERTY OWNERS -- OWE BUNCH OF PROPERTY OWNERS AGREEING ON AN 85, 90% BASIS TO TAX THEMSELVES ABOVE AND BEYOND THE TAXES THIS THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING AND ABOVE AND BEYOND THE TAXES THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY PAYS IN ORDER TO POOL SOME FUNDS FOR THEM TO GO PAY FOR GRAFITTI REMOVAL, STREET CLEANING, THEIR OWN DOWNTOWN RANGER FORCE THAT WORKS WELL WITH A.P.D. AND OTHER ISSUES. SO DON'T LOSE SIGHT ALSO OF THE FACT THAT THERE'S A BUNCH OF PROPERTY OWNERS DOWN THERE THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY SELF-FUNDING A BUNCH OF SERVICES THAT IN SOME CITIES ARGUABLY GET DONE VIA THEIR OWN EXISTING AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX BILL. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ON THE WHOLE TWO-WAY DEBATE, I MEAN, IT IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S SORT OF TWO ISSUES HERE. ONE IS THAT OUR GREAT STREETS TEAM AND OUR URBAN DESIGN CONSULTANTS HAVE DESIGNED, YOU KNOW, THE TREE SCAPE, THAT IS FROM A FACE OF A BUILDING TO A FACE OF A BUILDING DOWNTOWN IS GENERALLY ABOUT 80 FEED. SO THEY HAVE TO DESIGN WITH THE SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW, UNIFORM TREE WELLS, YOU KNOW, PARAMETERS FOR CURB CUTS, YOU KNOW, WIDTH OF LANES, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE BIKE RACKS SHOULD BE VERSUS WHERE THE NEWSPAPER STANDS WOULD BE VERSUS WHERE STREET VENDORS MIGHT CAN BE, ETCETERA. A PIECE OF THAT IS THE DIRECTION AL FLOW OF THE CARS, THAT IS, WHETHER IT'S A ONE-WAY STREET OR A TWO-WAY STREET. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE FIRST ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN WORKED THROUGH NOW FOR A LONG TIME AND THE CITY HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME, EFFORT AND MONEY ON IS WHAT IS THE PROFILE OF THAT 80 FEET. HOW MUCH IS SIDEWALK AND HOW MUCH IS STREET? AND OF THAT STREET THERE'S TWO LANES, I GUESS, IN THE CASE OF SECOND STREET, BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE, I GUESS, THEY'RE FOUR LANES. YOU KNOW, IS THERE DID DEBATE ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT OF HEART BURN ABOUT WIDER SIDEWALKS ACTUALLY PERHAPS SOMEHOW ENCOURAGES CRIME. I'LL CHALLENGE THAT. WHAT IS THE STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING AFTER GOING THROUGH ALL THESE STAKEHOLDER PROCESSES ON THE ISSUE OF THE ACTUAL PROFILE OF THE 80 FEET RIGHT-OF-WAY. BECAUSE I SEE TWO-WAY VERSUS ONE-WAY AS BEING FRANKLY A SECONDARY ISSUE. YOU ESSENTIALLY CAN CHANGE THE COLOR OF THE PAINT AND PUT UP SOME STREET LIGHTS IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, TWO-WAY OR ONE-WAY FLOAVMENT BUT IS THERE MODERATE CONSEQUENCE CONSENSUS WITH THE SIDEWALKS SIDEWALKS?

MY FEELING IS THAT THERE IS HOD MOD RAT OR BETTER CONSENSUS ON THAT THAN MOST OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP HAVE COME UP INTERNALLY AMONG DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF DESIGN ISSUE AND HOW TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DESIGNING THE SURFACE AND THE BELOW SURFACE AREA OF THESE STREETS AS WE CONSIDER CHANGES AND WIDENING THE SIDEWALK AND SO ON TO REALLY WORK FOR ALL THE KINDS OF PROBLEMS THAT YOU RUN INTO DOWNTOWN. SO I THINK WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE STAKEHOLDER COMMUNITY OUTSIDE AND THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND SO ON THAT WE'VE HAD, I THINK THAT THERE HAS BEEN ALMOST NO OPEN SUGGESTION OR CERTAIN O.O. -- OPPOSITION OR CONCERN ABOUT THAT ISSUE. AND IT'S REPRESENTED BY THE THIRD POLICY ITEM OF THE THIRD GROUP, WHICH I HAD INCLUDED IN THE GROUP OF THE DISBURSED VOTE. SO I THINK THAT YES, THERE ARE ISSUES THERE, BUT THEY'RE INTERNAL TO THE STAFF AND WE ARE MEETING ON A REGULAR BASIS TO WORK ALL THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES OUT, LIKE WE DO TYPICALLY FOR MOST TECHNICAL ISSUES.

Wynn: BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME AS IMPORTANT AN ISSUE ABOUT WHETHER IT'S ONE-WAY OR TWO-WAY IS WHERE IS THE CURB GOING TO BE. SO AS THE PROJECT GETS BUILT, THE DEVELOPER OF PLAZA LOFTS NEEDED TO KNOW WHERE THE CURB IS GOING TO BE FOR HIM TO COME IN AND DO HIS OWN PAVING FOR THAT SECTION OF SIDEWALKS. AND SO IT SEEMS TO ME AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS IS THAT DECLARATION, IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE SIDEWALK WIDTH AND WHAT WILL BE THE STREET WIDTH INDEPENDENT OF WHAT DIRECTION THE CARS GO?

THAT IS TRUE. AND IF -- AND WE HAVE BEEN ASSUMING WITH SEVERAL PROJECTS OVER THE LAST YEAR THAT HAVE BEEN COMING THROUGH AND HAVE WANTED TO MEET THE SO-CALLED GREAT STREETS DESIGN REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY WOULD MEET IT BY HAVING 18-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALKS. AND THAT DETERMINES THE ANGLE OF THE SIDEWALK TO MEET THE CURB, TO MEET THE STREET, AND THE REST OF THE CROSS-SECTION. SO WE HAVE -- YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THAT THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE AND WE HAVE DEVELOPED THOSE WITH THE GREAT STREET CONSULTANTS AND OUR OWN STAFF, AND WITH THE CITY'S -- OTHER CITY STAFF AND HAVE ASSUMED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO GO FORWARD WITH.

Wynn: SO BASED ON THAT, CAN WE -- BECAUSE I THINK WE'LL SEE. I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE OF WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD ON TWO-WAY STREET CONVERSION NOW, BUT I SEE THAT DECISION AS HOPEFULLY NOT DELAYING THE -- YOU KNOW, THE DECLARATION OF HERE ARE THE IMPROVEMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE. HERE'S THE 88 COMPATIBILITY WE NEED TO ADDRESS WITH COLORADO AND BRAZOS AND HERE'S A DECLARATION SO AS WE CONTINUE THE RENAISSANCE DOWNTOWN AND PRIVATE DEVELOPERS STEP UP AND DO IMPROVE THEIR STREET SCAPE FRONTAGE, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW THAT THE SIDEWALK IS GOING TO BE WHATEVER IT IS, 12, 18, 16 FEET OR SOMETHING.

THAT IS ALL EMBODIED IN BOTH NUMBER ONE AND TWO-WAY STREETS.

Wynn: OKAY. THANK YOU. ON NUMBER ONE, SINCE THESE SEEM TO BE NOT VERY CONTENTIOUS, BUT SOME OF THEM ARE VERY REAL PROJECTS, I WOULD THINK THAT THE DUAL LEFT TURN LANE FROM LAMAR TO BARTON SPRINGS AND THE ADDITIONAL TURN LANE FROM LAMAR TO SANDRA MURAIDA, THOSE ARE -- THEY'RE ALSO REAL PROJECTS. WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING TO ENGINEER THOSE AND SPECIFY THEM AND, OF COURSE, AWARD CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS. WHAT'S THE ESTIMATE AS TO THE TIMING OF SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT IN THEORY WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON AND WE NEED TO HAVE HAPPEN?

I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THESE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE AT THIS POINT. I THINK THERE ARE SOME THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO START IMMEDIATELY AND WORK ON AND BRING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF FUNDING. THERE ARE OTHERS THAT WILL BE DELAYED FOR SEVERAL REASONS, ONE, IT JUST TAKES MORE TIME TO DO THE ENGINEERING, THEY'RE LARGER PROJECTS. SOME, EVEN THOUGH THAT THEY'RE CONSENSUS ITEMS, THEY'RE ITEMS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE TO DO WITH CHANGES IN THE SEAHOLM AREAS THAT ARE MAYBE THREE OR FOUR YEARS OFF. SO WE WOULDN'T WANT NECESSARILY FOR THEM TO GET GOING RIGHT AWAY, EEMP THOUGH THEY'RE CONSENSUS ITEMS. SO THAT THEY WILL SPREAD OUT, THIS FIRST GROUP, OVER TIME. BUT I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT TIMING AT THIS POINT LAID OUT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE SOME HERE THAT WILL BE MUCH, MUCH LATER AND SOME THAT CAN BE DONE RIGHT AWAY.

> Wynn: AND COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ HAD HIS QUESTION, SO AS AN EXAMPLE, ON VOTE NUMBER 1 THAT HAS A HANDFUL OF VERY REAL PROJECTS AND TURN LANES AS AN EXAMPLE, ULTIMATELY EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS INDIVIDUALLY WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND WE'LL HAVE TO AWARD A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AND A AND E CONTRACT?

OUR ESTIMATE OF THE FIRST THREE OUT OF THE FIRST 15 NUMBER OF LEFT TURN AT SIXTH AND LAMAR, LEFT TURN RESTRICTION ON CONGRESS AND THE RIGHT TURN BAY AT SANDRA MURAIDA THAT THOSE ARE EACH LESS THAN 40,000 TO DO. NOW, FURTHER ANALYSIS WE MAY FIND OUT IT'S MORE, BUT AT THIS POINT OUR ESTIMATE IS THAT THEY'RE LESS THAN 40,000. NUMBER 3, THE RIGHT TURN BAY AT SANDRA MURAIDA, WOULD NOT COME BACK AND IT IS IN THIS FIRST GROUP, BUT IT WOULD -- IT IS TIED TO THE SEAHOLM MASTER PLAN. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S CHEAP AND EASY TO DO AND A CONSENSUS ITEM, IT MIGHT BE A FEW YEARS, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE MASTER PLAN FOR SEAHOLM.

Wynn: OKAY. MAYOR, I GUESS AT SOME POINT I'M READY TO START VOTING, BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ON VOTE NUMBER 1 --

Mayor Garcia: WE'RE WORKING OFF OF THIS ONE.

YES, I'M FOLLOWING.

Wynn: OKAY. SO VOTE NUMBER 1 UNDER GROUP B, ITEM NUMBER 3, FRANKLY I JUST THINK IT'S SILLY. I MEAN, TO REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL EVERY FIVE YEARS ON THE STATE OF DOWNTOWN ACCESS AND MOBILITY, I MEAN, WHAT WE SEE HERE AND WHAT WE EXPERIENCE EVERYDAY IS -- AND WE ALL COME IN AND OUT AND TO AND THROUGH DOWNTOWN ON A DAILY BASIS. IT'S A VERY DYNAMIC PROCESS AND PRIVATE SECTOR PROJECTS OR PUBLIC SECTOR PROJECTS CHANGE ON A MONTHLY BASIS. AND I THINK IT'S JUST SILLY TO SAY THAT EVERY FIVE YEARS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME REPORT GIVEN TO US. WE KNOW ON AN HOURLY BASIS, YOU KNOW --

Mayor Garcia: LET'S SATISFY SAI ON A TIMELY BASIS.

Wynn: I THINK IT'S SILLY TO EVEN SAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REPORT. PERHAPS IN THEORY BY HAVING THE MORE COMPREHENSIVE COMPUTER MODELING IN-HOUSE, I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE'RE JUST CONSTANTLY DOING IT. SO EVERY TIME WE MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THE ACTUAL DECLARATION OF USE AT SEAHOLM OR THE SMART ROAD MATRIX OR HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL EXTENSION, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE JUST INTUITIVELY GOING TO HAVE ROLLED INTO THAT ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW, THE MOBILITY IMPACT.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR SUGGESTING THIS. IT MAY BE SILLY, BUT OUR REASONS WERE THAT -- FIRST THAT ON ABOUT A FIVE-YEAR CYCLE THE COUNCIL APPROVES A NEW CIP PACKAGE TO TAKE TO THE VOTERS. AND WE WANTED TO TIME THIS TO GIVE COUNCIL SECONDLY A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF DOWNTOWN MOBILITY BY USING MATHEMATICAL MODEL AND OTHER THINGS. IN TIME TO PROCEED THAT -- PRECEDE THAT VOTE DECISION BY COUNT ON CIP ITEMS. WE WANTED NOT ONLY TO CONTINUE TO WORK OZ YOU'RE SUGGESTING INCREMENTALLY ON THINGS THAT COME UP ALL THE TIME ABOUT DOWNTOWN, BUT AT LEAST ON A PERIODIC BASIS, PERHAPS TIMED BY THE CIP VOTE, TO BRING YOU A COMPETENCE SIEVE OVERVIEW. COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW.

Wynn: MAYOR, THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE READY TO START VOTING, BUT THERE MIGHT BE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE THE DIAS.

Mayor Garcia: WHY DON'T YOU PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

Wynn: I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF VOTE NUMBER 1, WHICH I GUESS I SHOULD ITEMIZE THESE. GROUP NUMBER A WOULD BE PROJECT 3, PROVIDE THE NORTH TO WEST AND SOUTH TO EAST DUAL LEFT TURN LANES FROM LAMAR BOULEVARD TO BARTON SPRINGS ROAD. PROJECT 4 UNDER GROUP A, CONVERT SECOND STREET TO TWO-WAY BETWEEN SAN ANTONIO AND TRINITY. I WON'T READ ALL OF THEM. PROJECT NUMBER 10 UNDER GROUP A, PROVIDE THE REVERSIBLE LANE ON SOUTH FIRST STREET. PROJECT 11 UNDER GROUP A, CONSTRUCT A NORTH TO EAST RIGHT TURN BAY FROM LAMAR TO SANDRA MURAIDA WAY. PROJECT 12 UNDER GROUP A, EXTEND WEST AVENUE BETWEEN THIRD STREET AND CESAR CHAVEZ. AND UNDER GROUP A, PROJECT 15, EXTEND THIRD STREET FROM NUECES AND WEST AVENUE WITH NEW BRIDGES OVER SHOAL CREEK. AND THEN ALSO PART OF VOTE 1 WOULD BE GROUP B, ITEM NUMBER 3 THAT I JUST MENTIONED, THE FIVE-YEAR REPORT ON DOWNTOWN MOBILITY, ITEM NUMBER 4, THE COORDINATION WITH CAPITAL METRO TO IDENTIFY THE CONFIGURATIONS -- I PRESUME IT ALSO MEANS A.D.A. COMPLIANCE OF COLORADO AND BRAZOS FOR TRANSIT OPERATIONS. PROJECT 5 UNDER GROUP B, EVALUATE THE LONG-TERM OPTIONS OF THOSE PEOPLE AND GOODS IN AND TO AND THROUGH THE CBD FOR FURTHER STUDY. UNDER GROUP B, ITEM NUMBER 7, DEVELOP DOWNTOWN CURB SPACE ALLOCATION PROTOCOLS USING ADVICE FROM CITY STAFF AND MEMBERS OF APPROPRIATE CITY COMMISSIONS AND STAKEHOLDERS. AND THEN GROUP -- LASTLY FOR VOTE NUMBER 1, GROUP NUMBER C, ITEM 3, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE GREAT STREET MASTER PLAN, STAFF HAS DEVELOPED A COMPREHENSIVE ALTERNATIVE STREET SCAPE STANDARDS TO ENSURE THAT DOWNTOWN HAS A CONSISTENT LOOK AND FEEL AND IS CONDUCIVE TO PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY AND TO MOVE THE ALTERNATIVE STANDARDS THROUGH THE CITY RULES POSTING PROCESS, THAT IS MAKING THAT DECLARATION OF EXACTLY WHAT IS THE PROFILE OF THE ADP, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE TRAFFIC FLOW IS ONE OR TWO WAYS.

Mayor Garcia: LET ME JUST DO SOME PROCEDURAL STUFF HERE. THIS WOULD BE A SEPARATE RESOLUTION FOR THE VOTE 1. AND I THINK THE INTRO DUCTTORY PARAGRAPH COULD APPLY TO ALL OF THEM, SO WHATEVER IS PASSED TODAY. AND THEN AFTER WE STARTED GOING INTO THE OPERATIVE PARTS WE CAN SAY THAT -- WHAT WE SAY IN THE FIRST OPERATIVE PARAGRAPH IS CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE FOLLOWING CONCEPTUAL PROJECTS, AND IT WOULD BE GROUPS A, B AND C WITH THESE ITEMS, OKAY? AND DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO PROCEED WITH FEASIBILITY STUDY AND ENGINEERING DESIGN AS NEEDED AND TO PROCEED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROJECTS WHILE RESOURCES AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE. SO THAT WOULD BE THE INTRODUCTORY PARAGRAPH TO THEN THE LISTING THAT IS ON THE LIST OF WHAT IS KNOWN AS VOTE NUMBER 1 CONSENT.

OKAY. SO MAYOR, WHAT MY OFFICE WILL DO IS WHENEVER WE HAVE A TIME VOTE IS WE WILL REPEAT ALL THE WHEREAS LANGUAGE FOR EACH RESOLUTION THAT WE VOTE FROM EVERY VOTE THAT'S TAKEN ON THIS ITEM, ALL THE WHEREAS LANGUAGE, AND THEN WE'LL START AFTER -- WE'LL REPEAT THE INTRODUCTORY PARAGRAPH AFTER BE IT RESOLVED WHERE IT REFERS TO IT BEING A CONCEPTUAL PROJECT LIST AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PROCEED WITH -- PROCEED WITH FEASIBILITY STUDIES AND ENGINEERING DESIGN AS NEEDED AND SO FORTH, THAT LANGUAGE.

Mayor Garcia: RIGHT.

AND THEN LIST THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT ARE MOVED AND APPROVED ON A SEPARATE VOTE.

Mayor Garcia: AND THERE MAY BE -- THERE MAY BE A NEED TO -- BECAUSE SOME OF THIS FALL UNDER THE SECOND OPERATIVE PART OF THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS DRAFTED. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WOULD BE BEST FOR US TO DRAFT A SEPARATE RESOLUTION JUST FOR THE CONSENT ITEMS. BECAUSE SOME OF THESE CONSENT ITEMS ARE UNDER THE FIRST OPERATIVE PART, SOME OF THEM UNDER THE SECOND, SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN UNDER NUMBER 3. IN THE THIRD OPERATIVE PARAGRAPH. SO CITY ATTORNEY, YOU MAY HAVE TO GO AND DRAFT THIS RESOLUTIONS.

WELL, WE'RE GOING -- [ONE MOMENT, PLEASE, FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS]

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. YOU GOT IT, MS. BROWN? SO -- SO EACH ONE OF THE RESOLUTIONS WILL HAVE THREE OPERATIVE PARTS AND THE INTRODUCTORY PARAGRAPH WILL BE THE SAME. FOR EACH ONE. AND -- AND A WOULD BE -- WOULD BE THIS PART. B WOULD BE THIS PART, C WOULD BE THIS PART.

I WILL JUST CLARIFY, ALL OF THIS WILL ALSO BE THE CITY CLERK'S MINUTES, JUST THAT -- SHE WILL THEN AFTER THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED, SHE CAN FORMALIZE THAT IN A RESOLUTION AND SIGN-OFF SINCE THE CITY CLERK HAS DONE THE RESOLUTIONS THAT REFLECT THE ACTIONS OF COUNCIL.

Mayor Garcia: I'M GOING TO SECOND COUNCILMEMBER WYNN'S MOTION.

Slusher: MAYOR, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER.

SLUSHER: > Slusher: I WILL GO THROUGH THEM IN ORDER ON HERE. MR. LIBRACH, THE REVERSIBLE LANE ON SOUTH FIRST BETWEEN BARTON SPRINGS AND CESAR CHAVEZ STREET, ARE THERE NO PLANS TO TRY TO TAKE THIS FURTHER SOUTH, ARE THERE?

CORRECT, THERE ARE NO PLANS TO DO THAT.

Slusher: AND YOU THINK THAT WORKS WELL, THAT TRAFFIC COMES DOWN FROM THE TWO LANES ON SOUTH FIRST AND --

WE DO.

SPREADS OUT?

WE THINK IT ELIMINATES THE BOTTLENECK THERE AT THE BRIDGE, THAT IT REALLY HELPS.

Slusher: OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK -- I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE I THINK SOUTH FIRST STREET ITSELF, SOUTH OF BARTON SPRINGS ROAD WORKS PRETTY WELL. IT DOES BACK UP A LITTLE BIT IN THE MORNING AT BEN WHITE IN THE AFTERNOON. BUT IT'S -- IT'S -- BUSINESSES ARE RIGHT UP ON THE STREET. I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE IT TURNED INTO AN EXPRESSWAY WITH THE REVERSIBLE LANE, SEMI EXPRESSWAY, I GUESS. OKAY. ON THE ITEMS THAT RELATE TO SEAHOLM, THE NEXT THREE THERE, THE RIGHT TURN LANE FROM LAMAR, CLEARLY THAT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT TO TRAFFIC. THEN THE EXTENSION OF WEST AND THIRD. BUT DID I HEAR YOU SAY WE ARE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE SEAHOLM PLANT IS -- IS APPROVED AND WE -- WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON ANY OF THESE?

THAT'S CORRECT, THE SITUATION IS YOU HAVE GOT SOME OVERLAPPING PLANS. OVERLAPPING IDEAS HERE. SO THIS SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS FITS, WAS STUDIED IN THE DAMP MODELING. BUT YOU STILL HAVE THE SEAHOLM MASTER PLAN TO FINALLY APPROVE AND SO THERE IS -- THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE -- IN THE SEAHOLM MASTER PLAN AND THE MASTER PLAN ITSELF, I THINK, THESE -- THESE ASSUME THAT THAT WILL EVENTUALLY PASS. SO THAT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT -- THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING TO COUNCIL AND HAVE -- HAVE YOUR DECISION ON.

Slusher: OKAY. SO THESE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL IN RELATION TO THE SEAHOLM PLAN BEFORE -- BEFORE ANY ACTION WOULD BE TAKEN.

THAT'S CORRECT.

Slusher: OKAY. THEN ON THE REPORTING EVERY FIVE YEARS, THAT JUST SEEMS -- TO ME I THINK COUNCILMEMBER WYNN MAKES SOME GOOD POINTS THERE. BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IT A LITTLE MORE FREQUENT. I GUESS A REPORT DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DEFINE IT, I DON'T MEAN HIRE CONSULTANTS TO GO OUT AND DO TRAFFIC MODELING EVERY YEAR OR EVERYTHING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF REPORT BACK FROM THE STAFF TO THE COUNCIL EVERY YEAR. DOES THAT -- I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A CONSTANT CONSULTANT CONTRACT, IF YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING. MAYBE IT COULD BE A MORE THOROUGH REPORTING IN OFF YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AGAIN THE NOTION HERE IT WOULD BE WITH A COMPREHENSIVE REEVALUATION OF WHERE WE ARE. A FIVE YEAR FORECAST INTO THE FUTURE AS WE HAVE DONE WITH THE CURRENT DAMP. IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE A MAJOR CONSULTANT STUDY, BUT IT MIGHT. YOU KNOW, OUR -- WE WILL HAVE -- SOME STAFF RESOURCES AVAILABLE, DEPENDING ON BUDGETS AND SO ON, BUT A LOT OF THOSE STAFF RESOURCES WILL BE WORKING IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS, TO DO IT MUCH -- THE IDEA HERE WAS A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT. NOT -- THERE WOULD ALSO BE REPORTS TO -- THAT WE COULD MAKE THE COUNCIL ON SPECIFIC ISSUES OR THE -- THE AD HOC OR -- WHATEVER, BUT TO DO IT MORE -- DO A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT IS TIMELY, COSTLY AND I -- THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE FIVE YEARS.

Slusher: WELL, I THINK THAT I WILL JUST LEAVE THAT ONE ALONE FOR NOW, WE CAN HAVE BRIEFINGS OR REPORTS TO THE COUNCIL ON VARIOUS ASPECTS OF IT BECAUSE I DO THINK WE OUGHT TO STAY ON TOP OF HOW THIS IS WORKING OUT. AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THEM. COUNCILMEMBER WYNN IS RIGHT WE WILL SEE IT ALL OF THE TIME, BUT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE COUNCIL HAVING A THOROUGH DISCUSSION ON IT. THE NEXT ONE COORDINATE THAT IT WITH CAPITAL METRO TO IDENTIFY THE BEST STREET CONFIGURATIONS FOR COONLD BRAZOS TO ENHANCE -- COLORADO AND BRAZOS TO ENHANCE ... DOES THAT INVOLVE GETTING THE BUSES OFF OF CONGRESS.

IT INVOLVES THE BUSES OF CONGRESS, A.D.A. ISSUES MENTIONED BY SOME OF THE SPEAKERS, FIGURING OUT WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE FOR BUS STOPS, PART OF THE REASON THEY TALKED TO US ABOUT THE CLOCKWISE MOVEMENT AS OPPOSED TO COUNTERCLOCKWISE THAT YOU HAVE NOW, THEY FEEL LIKE, THEY STILL HAVE TO DO MORE WORK ON THIS, THERE ARE BETTER OPPORTUNITIES FOR EASIER LOCATIONS AND STOPS FOR -- FOR A.D.A. PURPOSES AND OTHERS TO DO IT IN A CLOCKWISE ROTATION. SO IT INVOLVES THAT PLUS MOVING SOME BUS ROUTES OFF OF CONGRESS, POSSIBLY -- THE POSSIBLE FUTURE CONSIDERATION OF DEDICATED BUS LANES THEMSELVES. PLUS FINALLY THE LOCATION OF LIGHT RAIL.

Slusher: OKAY. SO I'M READING THIS RIGHT, THOUGH, WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS JUST CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION WITH CAPITAL METRO ABOUT WHAT'S THE -- WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO PROVIDE TRANSIT IN DOWNTOWN AREA, IT'S NOT CALLING ON CAPITAL METRO TO DO ANY PARTICULAR -- TAKE ANY PARTICULAR ACTION RIGHT NOW.

CORRECT.

Slusher: OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL OF MY QUESTIONS ON THAT ROUND, MAYOR, THANK YOU.

Mayor Garcia: FURTHER QUESTIONS?

Thomas: YES, MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND. ON GROUP B, ON REPORTING, BACK TO COUNCILMEMBER WYNN'S REPORTING, ON THE FIVE YEARS, THAT IS A LONG TIME, BUT WITHIN THE TIME THAT COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER WAS TALKING ABOUT, ARE WE GOING TO INVOLVE THE BUSINESS OF DOWNTOWN, ALSO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE -- THAT THEIR ACCESSIBILITY AND MOBILITY IS -- IS WORKING FOR THE -- FOR THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS?

WELL, OUR RECOMMENDATION, THE -- COUNCILMEMBER, IS TO -- IS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT STUDIES THAT WOULD BE -- THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO -- TO HAVE STAFF AND COUNCIL WORKING WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE STAKEHOLDERS OF DOWNTOWN. LOOKING AT PARKING ISSUES, LOOKING AT IF YOU DECIDED TO GO FORWARD WITH SOME TWO-WAY CONVERSIONS, BLOCK BY BLOCK, BUILDING BY BUILDING, DISCUSSIONS. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE CREATION OF CRITERIA TO -- TO JUDGE SUCCESS OR FAILURE OF SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. SO WE WOULD BE WORKING -- WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY ON ALL OF THOSE THINGS, STARTING, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY WITH WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU DECIDE TO PASS.

OKAY. ALSO ON -- HE ANSWERED THAT ON CAPITAL METRO. OKAY. THANK YOU.

Goodman: MAYOR?

Mayor Garcia: CHAIRMAN?

Goodman: I ALMOST AGREE TOTALLY WITH COUNCILMEMBER WYNN'S MOTION, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT I NEED TO GET CLARIFIED, TOO. I WILL GO TO THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED TWICE, SINCE I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT, TOO, WHICH IS THE EVERY FIVE YEARS REPORT WHICH I MENTIONED BEFORE. I THINK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE THERE MUST BE A BETTER WAY TO SAY THIS. IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF THE STATUS OR EFFECTIVENESS OR WHATEVER EVERY FIVE YEARS, THAT'S FINE. BUT WHAT THIS SEEMS TO DO IS THEN PRECLUDE THE OFFICIAL COMMITMENT FOR ROUTINE ONGOING REPORTS OF -- OF A MORE IMMEDIATE ANALYSIS OF WHETHER SOMETHING WE ARE CHOOSING IS ACTUALLY EFFECTIVE OR WAS TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE OR COUNTER PRODUCTIVE AND, YOU KNOW, IN ESSENCE AN AMENDMENT OF -- OF WHAT WE ARE ENVISIONING WILL HAPPEN. SINCE A LOT OF THIS IS THEORETICAL AND/OR AT LEAST COULD BE THEORETICAL WORKS WELL IN ONE PLACE AND THE SAME THING DOESN'T SOMEWHERE ELSE, SO -- SO IS THERE A DIFFERENT PHRASEOLOGY THAT INCORPORATES, JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, THE EXPECTATION THAT ONGOING REPORTS OF THE EFFECTIVENESS OF MEASURES WERE GOING TO -- WE ARE GOING TO ADOPT ARE IN FACT ON TRACK?

WELL, WE COULD ADD A --

NO PUN INTENDED THERE.

PERHAPS COUNCIL IS THINKING HERE ON THE FLY, WE COULD ADD A SENTENCE THAT SIMPLY SAYS -- THIS IS NOT TO PRECLUDE ONGOING REPORTS TO COUNCIL OR SOMETHING ON THIS SUBJECT MATTER?

Goodman: WELL, OR JUST THERE WILL ALSO BE REPORTS.

THERE WILL ALSO. THERE WILL ALSO BE ONGOING STATUS REPORTS.

Goodman: RIGHT, ROUTINE, REGULAR. NOW, BACK UP TO -- WELL, ONE MORE KIND OF WORD SMITING, SORRY, I KNOW I HATE THIS STUFF, TOO. IN GROUP C, COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, DO YOU -- ARE YOU TOTALLY WEDDED TO THIS WORD "CONSISTENT?" IN THIS CON SECT? BECAUSE -- IN THIS CONTEXT, BECAUSE CONSISTENT IS SO SUBJECTIVE THERE THAT IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TELL EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO COMMIT TO. AND I'M ASSUMING IT'S -- IT'S LIKE APPROPRIATE QUALITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT CONSISTENT BEGS THE QUESTION OF CONSISTENT WITH WHAT? WHICH IS SORT OF LIKE A -- LIKE A PLAN IN PLACE WHICH WE DON'T REALLY HAVE. WE JUST SORT OF HAVE A PATH TO A VISION. WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO HOLD OURSELVES TO. SO IS THERE MAYBE A BETTER WORD THAT FITS WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE?

WYNN: WELL, I SEE THIS INEVITABLY AS BEING SOMEWHAT SUBJECT, BUT I DIDN'T THINK OF A BETTER -- I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS, BUT I COULDN'T THINK OF SOMETHING. SEEMS TO ME THAT THE GOAL HERE WOULD BE TO HAVE CONSISTENT STREET SCAPE STANDARDS AND HAVE THEM BE DECLARED, HAVE -- HAVE EVERY PROPERTY OPENER KNOWS WELL IN ADVANCE AS HE OR SHE PLANS A PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE CURB IS GOING TO BE AND HOW MANY TREE WELLS THEY ARE LIKELY TO BE EXPECTED TO PLANT IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY.

Goodman: THAT'S DIFFERENT WHAT THIS --

WYNN: I DO RECOGNIZE THERE WILL BE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SAY A SECOND STREET STANDARD AND A -- WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN ON WESTBOUND SIXTH STREET AT SOME SPOT.

Goodman: RIGHT, WHAT'S WHAT WAS A LITTLE NEBULOUS FOR ME, BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVE STANDARDS WHICH KIND OF CONFLICTS WITH CONSISTENT FEEL AND -- LOOK AND FEEL, SORRY, CONSISTENT LOOK AND FEEL. SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE WASN'T A -- ISN'T A MORE CLEAR WAY CONSISTENT STANDARDS, I DON'T KNOW -- IT'S NOT CLEAR IF YOU COME IN COLD.

WYNN: I THIS THE INTENT IS UNDERSTOOD.

[INAUDIBLE - NO MIC]

Mayor Garcia: CAN YOU GET SOME VOLUME, PLEASE, ON THAT MIC. HE'S GOING TO GIVE YOU VOLUME ON THAT OTHER ONE.

JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THERE ARE EXTREMELY DETAILED STANDARDS THAT ARE PROPOSED WITHIN THE GREAT STREETS MASTER PLAN THAT TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE TO PLANT THE TREE, FOUR FEET BACK FROM FACE OF CURB, 22-FOOT ON CENTER. IT'S THOSE STANDARDS THAT ARE BEING REFERRED TO HERE AS ALTERNATIVE STREETSCAPE STANDARDS, BUT THEY THERE ARE ARE CLEARLY DELINEATED. SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THOSE ARE. IT'S REALLY SINCE SUCH CLEAR STANDARDS DON'T EXIST IN OUR -- IN OUR CITY RULES POSTING PROCESS, IT'S REALLY TO TAKE THOSE STANDARDS AND ADMIT THEM THROUGH THE --

Goodman: WHAT I'M SAYING THAT THAT'S THE -- IF THAT WAS THE WAY THIS WAS WRITTEN, IT WOULD BE A VERY DIFFERENT THING, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW THIS SENTENCE IS WRITTEN. OKAY. LET ME LEAVE THAT FOR A MINUTE AND SAY ON GROUP A, I ALSO AM JUST A LITTLE BIT RELUCTANT ON NUMBER 10, REVERSIBLE LANE ON SOUTH FIRST, BECAUSE IN MY OPINION SOUTH FIRST IS ONE OF THE FEW NORTH-SOUTH STREETS THAT ACTUALLY OPERATES WELL, CONSISTENTLY, EVEN BEING TORN UP SO OFTEN AS IT IS, IT STILL MANAGES TO GET PEOPLE NOT ONLY FROM POINT A TO POINT B, BUT ALL SPOTS IN BETWEEN. WITHOUT TOO MUCH TROUBLE EXCEPT NOW WHEN WE ARE DOWN TO TWO LANES AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO TURN EAST OR WEST AND ALL OF THE REST CUE UP. SO -- SO THAT'S AN IFFY ONE FOR ME, BUT NOT ONE THAT I'M GOING TO CHALLENGE WITH ANY GREAT ENERGY. NUMBER 15, THOUGH, AND THE 12 EXTENDING WEST AVENUE BETWEEN THIRD STREET AND CESAR CHAVEZ, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY IT SOONER OR LATER NO MATTER WHAT, YOUR PLAN FOR SEAHOLM, WHAT HAVE YOU. 15, THOUGH, SEEMS TO BE JUST A -- MUCH MORE LONG TERM PROJECT AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SLOWLY CREEK BRIDGES AS -- SHOAL CREEK BRIDGES AS A PART OF THE DESIGN AND FIGURING OUT THE IMPACT, THE COST, ALL OF THAT. THEN I'M WONDERING WHY IT'S HERE IN THIS PARTICULAR CONTEXT ALMOST AS IF IT'S AN IMMEDIATE NEED, I'M WONDERING ABOUT THE PRIORITY OF THE NUECES ONE NUMBER 15.

YES. THIS FIRST GROUP THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO YOU IN THIS VOTE IS NOT DONE ON -- IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO YOU ON THE BASIS OF BEING THOSE THAT NEED TO BE DONE FIRST.

Goodman: NO, I WASN'T TRYING TO SAY THAT. BUT IT IS -- IT IS TAKING IT AND COMMITTING TO IT WHEN WE REALLY DON'T KNOW -- WE TALKED ABOUT SEAHOLM EARLIER. MAYBE SOMEBODY HAS AN ABSOLUTE PLAN BUT IT'S NEVER COME HERE WHERE WE BLESSED IT. IN ESSENCE I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE, TOO, ON DE FACTO CHOOSING SOMETHING THE WAY WE DID WITH -- WITH -- NOT ME, BUT TO SOME DEGREE ON THE LUMBER MEN'S, YOU ARE SETTING SOME ABSOLUTES IN PLACE BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY TAKE ACTION. OR POLICY ACTION ON THE WHOLE IN SEAHOLM AND ALL. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT ACCIDENTALLY HERE. AND I KIND OF FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE AS IF WE ARE IN A SENSE DOING THAT.

I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT. HOWEVER, THAT SINCE THIS -- THIS WOULD REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING, AS WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO DO THAT. WOULD ONLY DO THAT, THIS WOULD FALL OFF THE LIST IF THE MASTER PLAN WERE NOT APPROVED OR IF THE FUNDING WERE NOT AVAILABLE. SO IT'S -- IT FITS HERE IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WAS MODELED, WHEN WE LOOKED AT DOWNTOWN COMP HENCE CIVIL. IF WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WERE IN SEAHOLM AS WELL AS THE REST OF DOWNTOWN. SO IT FITS IN THAT CONTEXT. BUT YOU ARE RIGHT. IT STILL IS SOME TIME OFF AND DOES REQUIRE SEVERAL MORE APPROVALS OF COUNCIL.

Goodman: OKAY. JUST SPEAKING OF CONSISTENCY, I DON'T WANT TO VOTE YES ON SOMETHING THAT I'M ENTIRELY UNSURE OF AND WOULD VOTE NO FOR LATER AND THEN SOMEBODY WOULD SAY, WELL, BUT YOU VOTED FOR IT BEFORE. LIKE DARYL WHO DOES THAT NOW. [ LAUGHTER ] LET ME REMIND YOU. NO, NOT THAT YOU DO THAT, THAT YOU REMIND OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY DID THAT. LET ME BE VERY CLEAR. I'VE NEVER SEEN COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER DO THAT. BUT HE HAS REMINDED SOME OF US ON OCCASION THAT WE WERE INCONSISTENT IN SUBSEQUENT VOTES. OKAY. 

I HAVE SOME SUGGESTED LANGUAGE FOR ITEM C THAT YOU RAISED EARLIER. IT'S MORE DIRECT, MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. IT WOULD READ: ADOPT THE GREAT STREETS MASTER PLAN STREETSCAPE STANDARDS TO ENSURE THAT DOWNTOWN HAS A CONSISTENT LOOK AND FEEL TO MOVE -- AND TO MOVE THESE STANDARDS THROUGH THE CITY RULES POSTING PROCESS.

WYNN: VERY GOOD.

Goodman: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, WOULD YOU CONSIDER SEVERING NUMBER 15 FOR THE MOMENT AND YOU COULD VOTE ON THAT PERHAPS -- I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF TORTUROUS, I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE FOR THE MOTION, BUT WITH 15 IN IT I CAN'T SEE MY WAY CLEAR. IT'S JUST ON ONE LITTLE THING. [ LAUGHTER ]

WYNN: I WILL SEVER ITEM 15 AND VOTE SEPARATELY. IF THAT'S THE REQUEST.

Futrell:: MAYOR PRO TEM, I THINK YOU'RE IT.

Goodman: IS THE MAYOR -- [INAUDIBLE]

WYNN: THE MAKER IS OKAY.

SEPARATE 15. IN THE AMENDMENTS MS. BROWN, TO TAKE OUT WEST THIRD STREET [INAUDIBLE] BRIDGES OVER SHOAL CREEK, THEN ON ITEM NO. 3, IN GROUP B, THERE WILL BE -- THERE WILL ALSO BE ONGOING STATUS REPORTS ADDED TO THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. AND THEN ON GROUP C, ITEM NO. 3, SCRATCH OUT IN CONJUNCTION WITH AND JUST SAY ADOPTION, ADOPT -- ADOPT A GREAT STREET MASTER PLAN AND THEN THE LAST -- THE LINE BEFORE THE LAST ONE, SCRATCH OUT AND IS CONDUCIVE TO PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO? WAS THAT THE CHANGE, MAYOR PRO TEM?

I THINK THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE. I COULD READ BACK --

Mayor Garcia: COULD YOU READ THAT.

Clerk Brown: ADOPT THE GREAT STREET MASTER PLAN STREETSCAPE STANDARDS TO ENSURE THE DOWNTOWN HAS A CONSISTENT LOOK AND FEEL AND MOVE THESE STANDARDS THROUGH THE CITY'S RULES POSTING PROCESS.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. AND YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT, COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

WYNN: YES, SIR.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. I'M FINE WITH THAT, TOO. OKAY. FURTHER DISCUSSION ON VOTE NUMBER 1. ARE WE READY TO VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES. MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU WANT TO PICK UP ITEM 15?

Goodman: I DON'T, BUT SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT. I DON'T, BUT SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO PICK UP ITEM 15?

WYNN: MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO GO HEAT AND VOTE ON -- TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON IT. OFFER THE MAYOR PRO TEM TO VOTE NO OR ABSTAIN PERHAPS. A NEW VOTE NUMBER 2 WOULD BE SIMPLY APPROVING ITEM NO. 15 OUT OF GROUP A.

Mayor Garcia: ON THAT RESOLUTION, MS. BROWN, THE INTRODUCTORY PARAGRAPH AND THE OPERATIVE PART WOULD BE WHAT'S IN THE FIRST PART. SHOULD BE STEPPED WEST THIRD STREET FROM NUECES AND WEST AVENUE WITH NEW BRIDGE OVER SHOAL CREEK. AND I'M GOING TO SECOND THAT MOTION. DISCUSSION?

Slusher: I'M WORRIED THE MAYOR PRO TEM WILL REMIND APPROXIMATE ME IF I VOTE DIFFERENTLY LATER. [ LAUGHTER ]

Mayor Garcia: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

Mayor Garcia: OPPOSED FOR?

Goodman: ABSTAINING.

Mayor Garcia: VOTE IS 6 TO 0 TO 1 ABOUT THE MAYOR PRO TEM ABSTAINING. OKAY. THE SECOND VOTE IS ON RIVERSIDE. HUM? THE THIRD VOTE, I'M SORRY. THIS WILL BE VOTE NUMBER 3. VOTE ON RIVERSIDE. ITEM NO. 14 REDUCE WIDTH OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE TO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION IN THE VICINITY OF TOWN LAKE PARK. AND UNDER GROUP B, IT'S NUMBER 6, CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALTERNATIVES THAT WOULD MAKE VIABLE THE REMOVAL OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE AS AN AT GRADE ROADWAY THROUGH TOWN LAKE PARK. AND IN PARENTHESES, RIVERSIDE DRIVE SHALL NOT BE PERMANENTLY CLOSED TO THE PARK UNTIL SUCH TIME AS ALTERNATIVES ARE IMPLEMENTED TO REPLACE RIVERSIDE DRIVE'S LOST TRAFFIC CAPACITY.

Slusher: MAYOR?

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER?

Slusher: I KNOW THIS ONE IS A LITTLE CONTROVERSIAL, BUT I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL ON THIS. I WOULD REMIND PAUX THAT ALL OF THE STAKE HOLD -- I WOULD REMIND FOLKS THAT ALL OF THE STAKE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE PARTIALER EVENTS CENTER, ARTS CENTER STAGE, BECOMING THE LONG CENTER, ARTS CENTER STAGE, MANAGING IT AND THE PARK ADVOCATES ALL AGREED THAT RIVERSIDE WOULD ACTUALLY BE CLOSED. THAT'S WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED TO US. AND I THINK WE PASSED THAT MASTER PLAN BEFORE. THIS STOPS SHORT OF THAT. IT DOESN'T DO THAT AND IT CALLS FOR -- BEFORE THAT WOULD HAPPEN, THAT THE -- ANY LOST TRAFFIC CAPACITY WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED. I THINK THAT ALSO GIVES US FURTHER TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE HOW IT WOULD WORK, ONCE THE NEW PARK IS DEVELOPED THERE. THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR IT TO BE CLOSED PERHAPS ON THE WEEKENDS AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS, LETTING PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS AND STILL WEIGH IN ON IT. AND IT'S BEEN SAID THAT TRAFFIC WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COME DOWN RIVERSIDE TO GET TO THE LONG CENTER OR I GUESS THE PARMER EITHER. BUT THE THING IS THAT IT ALREADY CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE MADE NO LEFT TURN OFF OF LAMAR, WE INSTITUTED NO LEFT TURNS OFF OF LAMAR HEADING SOUTH. THAT'S GREATLY IMPROVED THE TRAFFIC FLOW OR CONSIDERABLY LET'S SAY IMPROVED THE TRAFFIC FLOW THERE BECAUSE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS CARS WOULD STICK OUT INTO THE TURN LANE, THEN YOU REALLY HAD ONLY ONE LANE GOING SOUTH. SO I DON'T SEE THAT THAT TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT WITH THE NO LEFT TURN IS GOING TO BE REVERSED OR CHANGED. SO THAT'S NOT AN OPTION ANYWAY TO TURN LEFT THERE COMING FROM THE NORTH TO GO DOWN RIVERSIDE. SO -- SO -- IF YOU ARE GOING TO THE PARKING GARAGE, COMING FROM THE SOUTH, YOU WOULD TURN ON BARTON SPRINGS ROAD RATHER THAN GO TO RIVERSIDE. SO I THINK THIS -- THIS MAKES SENSE AND I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL.

MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER ON -- ON THE RIVERSIDE, WHICH IS VOTE NUMBER 3. AND SINCE IT INCLUDES GROUP A AND GROUP B, THE INTRODUCTORY PARAGRAPHS WOULD BE THE SAME AS THEY ARE FOR IN THE OTHER RESOLUTION. IS THERE A SECOND?

Goodman: I WILL SECOND FOR A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION. IS THERE A TIME FRAME FOR REDUCING THE WIDTH OF -- I SHOULD ASK AUSTEN. IS THERE A TRAFFIC TIME FRAME IN MIND FOR REDUCING THE WIDTH? BECAUSE I AM UNCOMFORTABLE DOING THAT BEFORE ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION IS FINISHED AND I KNOW THEY ARE NOT -- THEY ARE NOT USING THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I WOULD HATE TO -- TO IN ANY WAY WITH FUTURE TRAFFIC NEEDS FROM CONSTRUCTION FORCE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES AND THEIR TRIPS OUT INTO THE -- YOU KNOW, THE REGULAR ROUTES THAT ARE FOR THE REST OF US.

NO, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO THAT POINT. I THINK THAT THE ASSUMPTION HAS BEEN THAT THE LAPPED SCAPE ARCHITECT -- THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR THE TOWN LAKE PARK WOULD INCORPORATE THE CHANGES TO THE TWO LANES HERE AS PARTED OF THEIR WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING FOR THE PARK RECONSTRUCTION. AND THEY WOULD STAGE IT SO THAT IT FIT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION NEEDS OF THAT AREA. WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY DEALT WITH YOUR -- I HAVEN'T DEALT WITH YOUR ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE -- IF THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT OR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS. AT THIS POINT WE CAN CERTAINLY BE AWARE OF THAT AND TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

Futrell:: JESUS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD ADD, MAYBE FROM THE PARKS PERSPECTIVE.

JESUS OLIVERES, YOUR PARKS DIRECTOR. THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT THAT'S DESIGNING THE SECOND PHASE OF TOWN LAKE PARK IS WAITING FOR A DECISION TO BE MADE BECAUSE SOME OF THE DESIGN ON THE TOWN LAKE PARK WILL BE AFFECTED WITH WHETHER THE STREET STAYS IN FOUR LANES OR WITH TWO LANES.

Goodman: WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M FIGURING. THE MASTER PLAN AND THE INTENT ACTUALLY OF THAT FIRST ITEM ON THE -- ON THE ELECTION BALLOT LONG AGO WAS A PRESUMPTION THAT EVENTUALLY THE STREET -- THE ROAD WOULD BE CLOSED. BUT SO THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME WONDER ABOUT THE INTENT BEHIND CLOSING OFF ONE LANE AND ONE LANE NOW. WHAT IS THE NEED? IT'S A RELATIVELY NARROW ROAD TO START WITH. THE TRAFFIC IS LESS AND LESS ON IT NOW. THE CARS ARE FEWER SO THAT -- UNLESS THERE'S AN ACTUAL EVENT GOING ON, EVEN THEN EVERYONE DRIVES SLOWLY, IT SEEMS PRETTY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY RIGHT NOW AND SO I'M UNCLEAR ABOUT WHY WE WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY WHEN WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE IT DOWN ULTIMATELY ANYWAY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE DESIGN, IF YOU DO CLOSE THE STREET FROM THIS PARTICULAR POINT TO HERE, MAKE IT INTO A TWO-LANE, THEN THIS PORTION OF THE -- OF THE FOUR LANE BECOMES THE PARKING FOR THE TOWN LAKE PARK THAT ORIGINALLY THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PARKING LOT THAT WAS GOING TO BE CUT INTO THE PARK. SO BY REDUCING IT TO TWO LANES, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE EXISTING FOUR LANE STREET AND CONVERT THAT INTO A PARKING LOT. WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE.

Goodman: OKAY. WELL, IED IN THAT, WHICH BRINGS ME BACK TO THE TIME FRAME. WHEN IS THIS PLANNED TO HAPPEN IN.

COULD WE SATISFY THAT MAYOR PRO TEM BY ADDING IN THIS LANGUAGE THAT IT WILL BE DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CONSTRUCTION -- AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK? I MEAN, JESUS, IS THAT -- DOES THAT -- THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK? AND IT WILL BE WORKED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CONSTRUCTION?

DEFINITELY IT WILL BE DESIGNED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE -- OF THE PARK. AND THAT COULD -- THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ONE OF THE LAST COMPONENTS THAT WE CAN INCLUDE IN THE CONSTRUCTION. BUT IT IS A -- A MAJOR COMPONENT BECAUSE OF THE PARKING NEEDS FOR THE -- FOR THE TOWN LAKE PARK.

Goodman: THAT'S WHAT I'M ALSO LOOKING AT AND THINKING AT. SO I JUST DON'T SEE WHY WE DON'T WAIT UNTIL EVERYTHING IS READY AND THEN WE CLOSE IT DOWN PERIOD, NOT JUST HALF OF IT.

OH, I SEE, OKAY.

Futrell:: I WAS THINKING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, MAYOR PRO TEM.

Dunkerly: COULD I GET SOME TIME LINES ON THE PROPOSED COMPLETION OF THE LONG CENTER. AS -- IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE PARK. WHO KNOWS --

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IS HERE FROM THE LONG CENTER.

AT THIS POINT, COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLY, WE -- WE HOPE TO GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN 2003. IT WOULD TAKE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 30 TO 33 MONTHS TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION, SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN 2005, LATE 2005, POSSIBLY INTO 2006 FOR THE OPENING.

Dunkerly: MY CONCERN IS GO AHEAD AND DESIGN IT FOR THE TWO LANES, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO WAIT FOR THE -- FOR THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH THE CONSTRUCTION AT THE LONG CENTER AS WELL AS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PARK CONSTRUCTION TIME LINE IS.

WE ARE IN THE FINAL STAGES OF THE DESIGN AND WE SHOULD BE IN CONSTRUCTION IN '03. WE DEMOLISHED THE -- THE COLISEUM ALREADY. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF JUST GETTING READY TO GO OUT ON BIDS. THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE COMPONENTS THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE SPEKS FOR THE -- SPECS FOR THE TOWN LAKE PARK.

IS IT POSSIBLE THEN TO GO AHEAD AND ZOO DO THE DESIGN FOR THE TWO LANES AND THEN NOT DO THE CONSTRUCTION UNTIL ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS --

CERTAINLY WE CAN GO BACK TO THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND -- AND MAKE THIS ONE OF THE LAST COMPONENTS IN THE -- IN ON THE SECOND PHASE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF TOWN LAKE PARK. WE CERTAINLY WILL DESIGN IT WITH -- WITH TWO LANES IN MIND AND WITH THE ADDITIONAL PARKING AREA FOR -- FOR THE PARK. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, BUT I THINK YOU ARE SAYING -- LET ME SEE IF I CAN FRAME IT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS A TWO-STEP PROCESS. FIRST, IT NARROWS TO TWO LANES, WE WOULD DO THAT AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK. LOOKING FOR SOME FINAL ALTERNATIVE THAT COULD REPLACE THE CAPACITY TO CLOSE IT ALTOGETHER. IS THAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE, AUSTIN?

YES.

Futrell:: IF I HEAR THE MAYOR PRO TEM RIGHT, SHE'S SAYING WHY NOT WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE A VIABLE SOLUTION TO CLOSE THE WHOLE -- TO CLOSE ALL OF RIVERSIDE AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK AND NOT DO THE INTERIM TWO LANE STEP?

Goodman: I WAS ASSUMING THAT THE DESIGN FOR THE PARK WOULD PRESUME NO STREET, THAT THE STREET WAS BEING TAKEN OUT FOR TRAFFIC. SO I'M JUST UNCLEAR ABOUT WHY WE ARE DESIGNING FOR AN INTERIM. MAYBE THE BEST WAY WOULD BE TO GO IN AND BLACKOUT THE STRIPES DOWN THE MIDDLE SO THAT YOU HAVE TWO DRIVEWAY SIZE LANES.

IS THE DESIGN OF THE PARK INTENDED TO GIVE YOU THE ALTERNATIVE CAPACITY SO THAT RIVERSIDE CAN BE SHUT COMPLETELY?

THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ELIMINATE THAT PORTION OF RIVERSIDE. I THINK WHAT -- WHAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER WITH THE DISCUSSION OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AND THE FOLKS FROM THE PARMER EVENTS CENTER, THE LONG CENTER, THEY CAME UP WITH A COMPROMISE. INSTEAD OF CLOSING THE ENTIRE STREET TO ELIMINATE TWO LANES, WITH THE -- WITH THED INNING THAT -- WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT INSTEAD OF GOING AND BUILDING A PARKING LOT ON THE GREEN SPACE THAT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY TAKE UP MORE PARKLAND, UTILIZE THE EXISTING ROAD THAT IS ALREADY THERE, AND NOT NECESSARILY JUST DIG UP ALL OF THE ASPHALT, BUT MAXIMIZE SOME OF ITS USE, THAT'S WHY THAT DESIGN WAS -- WAS A COMPROMISE. BETWEEN ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AND WITH THE STAFF. IN REACTION TO THE STUDIES THAT HAD BEEN DONE AS TO WHETHER RIVERSIDE SHOULD BE CLOSED OR SHOULD IT REMAIN OPEN. I THINK EVERYBODY IS -- IS UNDER THED INNING THAT -- THAT -- UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S A NEED THERE STILL, BUT THEIR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL WAS TO ELIMINATE THAT WHOLE SECTION THERE. BUT WE DO HAVE THIS PARTICULAR COMPROMISE BEFORE YOU SO THAT WE CAN MAXIMIZE SOME OF THE ROAD FOR PARKING AS I ALLUDED TO EARLIER.

Thomas: MAYOR?

Futrell:: COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS?

Mayor Garcia: THOMAS COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS?

Thomas: I THINK IN THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS ABOUT HER GETTING SOME DISAGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE LONG CENTER -- I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AS FAR AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS. I THOUGHT WE WERE -- IN AGREEMENT WITH SOMEWHERE BETWEEN A AND B, SO I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT -- IF I COULD HEAR FROM THE LONG PEOPLE, BECAUSE I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO -- TO ABOUT THE LANES, YOU --

YES, SIR, THE -- THE LONG CENTER HAS NOT AGREED THAT THIS IS A COMPROMISE AT ALL. OUR PROPOSAL IS THAT WE WAIT UNTIL WE SEE WHAT THE DEMAND IS ON THE ROAD. I BELIEVE THERE WAS AN ERROR MADE THAT PEOPLE BELIEVE THIS IS A COMPROMISE POSITION AND I'M AFRAID IT'S NOT.

Slusher: MAYOR?

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER IN.

Slusher: DIDN'T YOU ALL AGREE TO THIS AS PART OF THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS BACK BEFORE THE ELECTION? MR. -- I WOULD LIKE MR. AKERS TO SPEAK TO THAT, TOO.

COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER, IF THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN WE DID NOT KNOW WHEN ALL OF THE DATA WAS AVAILABLE AND WE NEED TO DETERMINE THE ACCESS TO OUR FACILITIES, THAT WAS A MISTAKE. WE WOULD NEVER HAVE AGREED TO REDUCE THE FLOW OF OUR MAJOR ARTERY TO A MAJOR CENTER, SUCH AS THE PARMER EVENTS CENTER ADD THE LONG CENTER, I AM HERE TO TELL YOU --

Slusher: IT'S A MISTAKE THAT YOU ALL AGREED TO OR IT'S A MISTAKE TO SAY THAT YOU AGREED TO IT.

I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS, MID INNING IS IF THERE WAS A MISED INNING AS TO WHAT -- IF THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING AS TO WHAT WE AGREED TO, THAT WAS A MISTAKE BACK THEN, STILL A MISTAKE TODAY. I AM ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL MAKE NO MOVEMENT ON LONG -- ON THAT AREA UNTIL THE LONG CENTER OPENS. IT IS A REASONABLE REQUEST. WE DON'T SEE THE NEED AT THIS MEMENTO REDUCE A MAJOR -- AT THIS MOMENT TO REDUCE A MAJOR ARTERY.

Slusher: YOU HAVE ALREADY HAD YOUR THREE MINUTES. YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE YOUR POINT. I HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT RECOLLECTION OF THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TOOK THE MATTER TO THE VOTERS, THANK YOU. MR. AKERS I THINK YOU OUGHT TO --

Thomas: [INAUDIBLE] GO AHEAD, SIR.

THANK YOU, YEAH, THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS HERE. I GUESS ONE IS THE NATURE OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT AND THAT WAS EMBODIED IN THE TOWN LAKE PARK COMPREHENSIVE OR MASTER PLAN. THE COUNCIL ADOPTED WITH THE SUPPORT OF ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS. THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO, I GUESS IT WAS. AND THAT'S ALL A MATTER OF RECORD. REGARDING THE INTERIM PROPOSAL, I THINK IT'S A BIT OF A MISTAKE TO CHARACTERIZE IT AS A COMPROMISE PROPOSAL. IT'S A TRANSITIONAL PROPOSAL. IT'S AN INTERIM THING. AND IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE A TRANSITIONAL EFFORT. WHAT IT DOES IS, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS THE PARK FEATURES START OPENING UP, THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, LATE NEXT YEAR, THEY WILL BE -- THERE WILL BE A DEMAND FOR PEOPLE TO WANT TO USE THEM. AT THAT TIME, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT PARKING AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION OF -- I MEAN MS. GOODMAN RAISED ABOUT HAVING CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES INTERRUPT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC IN THE MEANTIME, THAT'S AN OPERATIONAL MEASURE THAT I THINK THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS GIVEN THAT DIRECTION CAN DEAL WITH. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO NEED THAT I SEE TO OBSTRUCT THE -- THE TWO WESTBOUND LANES. THERE'S -- THERE'S -- IT'S ONLY A FAIRLY SMALL SECTION OF IT THAT'S BEING RESTRICTED THAT WAY. AND, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE MAJOR CONSTRUCTION WILL BE TOWARD THE WEST END AND TOWARD THE EAST END. AND SO -- SO I -- I THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT CAN BE MANAGED. BUT THE IDEA OF -- OF WAITING UNTIL THE PARK IS OPEN BEFORE WE DO THIS DOESN'T QUITE WORK. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE -- THE PARKING LOT ITSELF IS A COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT AND AS SOON AS PEOPLE START COMING, WE WILL NEED TO HAVE IT. NOW, THE IDEA THAT WE SHOULD JUST GO FOR THE WHOLE THING, YOU KNOW, AT ANY GIVEN POINTS, WE SET THIS UP SO THAT IT WOULD BE AN EASY TRANSITION TO MOVE TO THE NEXT PHASE. SO IF WE DECIDE ULTIMATELY AFTER WE HAVE DONE ALL OF THE TRAFFIC MODELING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE OFF THE TWO REMAINING LANES, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF COVERING THEM OVER IN THE MIDDLE PART OF THE PARK AND THEN MAKING A DECISION BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE OBSERVED ABOUT PARKING DEMAND IN THE NORTHWEST, WHETHER WE WANT TO -- TO COVER OVER THAT PORTION OF -- OF THE OLD RIGHT-OF-WAY OR UTILIZE THAT FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING ALSO. BUT EITHER OF THOSE THINGS COULD BE DONE RELATIVELY EFFICIENTLY WHEN WE GO INTO PHASE 3 OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENT. BUT FOR PHASE 2 WE ARE GOING TO NEED THE PARKING AS THE DEVELOPMENT COMES ONLINE.

MAYBE I HAVE BEEN MISED INNING WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO HERE. BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN A DESIGN, PER SE, SO ARE YOU SAYING THIS IS LIKE THE MODIFIED IMPLEMENTATION, THE TWO LANES? OF THE AGREEMENT THAT EVERYONE CAME TO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE LONG CENTER?

NO. AS I SAID IT'S A TRANSITIONAL PHASE THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THE PHASE 2 CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK IN AN ORDERLY MANNER WITHOUT -- I MEAN, AS I SAID, THE TIMING OF THE -- OF THE ULTIMATE STUDY, THE TRAFFIC STUDY WITH MITIGATION MEASURES AND ALL OF THAT, GOT SKEWED SO THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVEOME SORT OF -- OF PARTIAL RESOLUTION AT LEAST IN ORDER TO PROCEED. BEFORE WE GET THE ULTIMATE RESULTS FROM -- FROM THE -- FROM THE MODELING OF THE COMPLETE CLOSURE. AND SO -- THE TIMING IS THERE, BUT THE IDEA BEHIND THE INTERIM WAS TO ALLOW EVERYTHING TO PROCEED IN AN ORDERLY MANNER. BUT IT'S NOT -- THAT'S NOT AN IMAGE OF -- OF, YOU KNOW, A FINAL PACKAGE BY ANY MEANS.

COUNCILMEMBER, PERHAPS I SHOULD CLARIFY ONE ITEM AS WELL. THAT IS THE -- STAFF'S ORIGINAL FEELING HERE WAS THAT THE -- THAT ALL FOUR LANES SHOULD REMAIN OPEN. THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL TOWN LAKE PARK STUDY MAY HAVE CONCLUDED. SO IT'S -- IT'S A COMPROMISE IN THE SENSE THAT -- THAT WE FEEL LIKE THAT -- THAT THE MAIN TRAFFIC ISSUE CAN BE RESOLVED AT EITHER END, AT EITHER INTERSECTION, THE LANES CAN BE CONSTRICTED. BUT WE DO NOT AT THIS POINT AFTER STUDYING THIS QUITE EXTENSIVELY ALREADY HAVE ANY ALTERNATIVES AT THIS POINT TO RECOMMEND AS ALTERNATIVES TO TAKE THE TRAFFIC IF THIS -- IF -- IF RIVERSIDE WERE TO CLOSE. OUR SUGGESTION HERE IS THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO STUDY IT AND WE WOULD WORK WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS TO LOOK AT -- AT ANY AND ALL KIND OF IDEAS TO -- TO AM AMELORIATE THE LOSS AND ABILITY IN CLOSING IT BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT AT THIS TIME, SO WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING A SPECIFIC TIME TO CLOSE IT.

Goodman: RIGHT. CAN I ASK YOU THEN. YOU ARE GOING TO CLOSE THE TWO LANES ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER, RIGHT? THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH OF THE MEDIAN.

YES, THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.

THEN YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE -- THAT WILL BE PART OF THE PARKING. SO PARKING WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED IN ONE LANE IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO THE PARKING SPOT, OUT OF THE PARKING SPOT, RIGHT SNOORK

THE PARKING ACTUALLY WOULD BE CONCENTRATE ODD THE WESTERN SIDE WHERE -- CONCENTRATED ON THE WESTERN SIDE WHERE HE IS SHOWING YOU AT THIS POINT. IT WOULDN'T BE ANY PARKING ON THE CENTRAL AREA WHERE THE LANES WOULD BE SHUT DOWN.

Goodman: WELL, KNOWING AUSTINITES, I KIND OF SUSPECT THAT SOONER OR LATER THEY WILL BE PARKING ALONG THE SIDE. SO YOU ARE NOT -- YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE THEM TICKETS OR SOMETHING?

UM ... I MEAN, WE CAN SET THAT UP. BUT THE -- THE IDEA HERE WAS THAT NOT TO PROVIDE FOR PARKING. PARKING DOES OCCUR ON THERE, I THINK THE PARKS DEPARTMENT PARKS POLICE OR THE CITY WILL HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO AT THAT POINT. I JUST DON'T KNOW.

YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO PARK ON THE SIDES. YOU WOULD ONLY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR YOUR EAST AND WESTBOUND TRAFFIC. AND IT WOULD BE PROPERLY -- THE PROPER SIGNS WOULD BE PROPERLY POSTED. NOT TO ALLOW ANY PARKING ON THE ROADWAY AND DIRECT PARKING INTO THE PARKING LOTS.

Goodman: POSSIBLY IT'S A DIFFERENT MEASURE, A DIFFERENT WIDTH, SORRY, THAN THE DRIVEWAY LIKE TO GO TO THE TRAIL OF LIGHTS THE DRIVEWAY WHERE THE LIGHTS ARE. THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE ABOUT THE SAME WEIGHED AND PEOPLE -- SAME WIDTH AND PEOPLE PARK ON BOTH SIDES AND TRY TO DRIVE.

RIGHT. AT THIS POINTS YOU WOULD HAVE TRAFFIC GOING EAST AND WEST.

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER DID YOU GET A SECOND TO YOUR MOTION.

Goodman: I DID SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION.

Clerk Brown: MAYOR PRO TEM GOODMAN SECONDED IT.

Mayor Garcia: THAT'S RIGHT FOR DISCUSSION. ARE YOU STILL KEEPING THE SECOND ON?

Goodman: YES, I HAVEN'T WITHDRAWN. DRUNK DRUNK COULD I: COULD I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? COULD I TAKE YOUR POINTER AND SHOW ME WHERE THE TWO LANES START. IT WOULD STAY FOUR LANES FROM THERE BACK TO THE EAST. GO UP TOWARD THE LONG CENTER?

CORRECT.

OKAY. JUST THAT SECTION. WOULD BE TWO LANES.

WYNN: MAYOR, I'M GOING TO OFFER A FRIENDLY SUGGESTION TO COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER. WE HAVE THIS -- THIS 2 POINT VOTE, ONE IS TO GO AHEAD AND DECLARE THAT RIVERSIDE WILL BE TWO LANE. ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. THERE IN THE CENTER PART OF THE PARK. THEN WE HAVE THIS GROUP B, POINT 6, WHICH IS CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALTERNATIVES THAT WILL MAKE VIABLE THE REMOVAL OF RIVERSIDE. AND THAT RIVERSIDE SHALL NOT BE PERMANENTLY CLOSED UNTIL SUCH TIME AS ALTERNATIVES ARE IMPLEMENTED TO REPLACE THE LOST CAPACITY. YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING. YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DOUBLE DECK CESAR CHAVEZ OR DOUBLE DECK BARTON SPRINGS ROAD. SO BASED ON ALL OF THAT, JUST SEEING THE TIMING OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARK AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LONG CENTER, I'M -- I WOULD PREFER THAT WE -- THAT WE NOT MAKE THE REDUCTION UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE LONG CENTER IS ACTUALLY OPENED AND WE SEE, YOU KNOW, WE SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN MOW THAT WE WILL HAVE BOTH THE -- NOW THAT WE WILL HAVE BOTH THE PARMER OPEN, EVENT NIGHTS, THE LONG CENTER. WE ARE TOLD THAT THE MODELING FOR THE JUSTIFICATION FOR AREAS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN FOR CLOSING RIVERSIDE WAS JUST BASED ON DAYTIME, SORT OF DOWNTOWN 5:00 RUSH HOUR SORT OF STUFF. WE HAVEN'T SEEN AND WON'T REALLY UNTIL THE LONG CENTER OPENS, I GUESS WE MIGHT COULD MODEL IT, WHAT WILL BE THE -- YOU KNOW, THE DYNAMIC AT SAY, 10:00 P.M. WHEN -- YOU KNOW, WHEN A -- WHEN A JUNIOR LEAGUE EVENT OR SAMMY SHORE OR SOMETHING IS ENDING AT PALMER, THE SYMPHONY IS GETTING OUT. I JUST -- I'M JUST RELUCTANT TO MAKE THIS DECLARATION UNTIL REALLY EITHER WE CAN GET THE LONG CENTER OPENED OR WE CAN AT LEAST MODEL IT VERY WELL ANDED IN WHAT THE -- MAYBE -- VERY WELL AND UNDERSTAND WHAT MAYBE THE 10:00 P.M. DYNAMICS MIGHT BE DOWN THERE. I GUESS I'M ACTUALLY PREFERRING THAT WE JUST ELIMINATE NUMBER 14 AND JUST FOCUS ON NUMBER 6 AND -- AND, YOU KNOW, RE-- DO SOME WORD SMITING HERE AND WE WORK IT TO WHERE ESSENTIALLY WE WILL -- WE WILL -- AS AN EXAMPLE, ITEM NO. 6 COULD READ CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALTERNATIVES THAT WOULD MAKE VIABLE THE REDUCTION AS OPPOSED TO REMOVAL, OF RIVERSIDE PERIOD. AND THEN IN PARENTHESES, RIVERSIDE DRIVE SHALL NOT BE PERMANENTLY CLOSED OR REDUCED THROUGH THE PARK UNTIL SUCH TIME AS ADDITIONAL CAPACITY IS IDENTIFIED, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, BUT NOT BEFORE THE LONG CENTER HAS BEEN OPENED FOR, SAY, SIX MONTHS.

Slusher: WELL, THE PROBLEM THAT I WOULD HAVE WITH THAT IS THAT THAT GOES AGAINST WHAT WE TOOK TO THE VOTERS. AND WHAT THE VOTERS APPROVED, WHAT THE AGREEMENT WAS BETWEEN ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AT THE TIME. I WAS HERE FOR THAT PROCESS, SO I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR THAT. AND I THINK IT REALLY MOVES US TOWARDS A -- A GREAT PARK THERE TO -- TO DO IT THIS WAY.

Futrell:: JUST AS A CLARIFIER IS WANTS TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT -- EVERYONE IS FOLLOWING ALONG ON THIS. IF WE WERE NOT TO DO THE NARROWING, THEN THE DESIGN OF THE PARK WOULD HAVE -- WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ENVISIONING BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO BUILD IN, IS THAT RIGHT, JESUS? [ONE MOMENT PLEASE FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS]

Goodman: IT LOOKS LIKE FROM DAW ON ON THE O. ON OWE DAW SO ON THE WEST -- AND THEN YOU NARROW AFTER THAT? IT GOES FROM SOMEWHERE ON LAMAR ON DAWSON RIGHT NOW. AND AT THAT POINT AS THE PEOPLE -- THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA WILL TURN AROUND AND COME IN THAT PARTICULAR DIRECTION OR TURN RIGHT AND GO ON THE TWO LANES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR REMAINING OPEN. THE TWO LANES THAT WILL BE GOING EAST ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED THAT WILL BE CLOSED.

Goodman: THAT WOULDANCE A LOT OF WHAT I HAVE.

WELL, KIND OF AS A CLARIFIER, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS PICTURE, ALTHOUGH THERE IS ON ITEM ITEM GROUP B NUMBER 6 A CONTINUED -- THERE WOULD BE A CONTINUED LOOK AT LOOKING FOR OTHER CAPACITY, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS NOW. WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT. AND SO WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING THE TWO LANES UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THAT CAPACITY COULD BE IDENTIFIED. SO I WANTED TO ALSO BE CLEAR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS ARGUMENT THAT NO ONE IS SAYING WHEN THE PARK IS COMPLETE WE WILL KNOW WHERE THAT ADDITIONAL CAPACITY IS, BUT WE MAY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER. SO ALTHOUGH GROUP B, 6 IS A CONTINUED LOOK FOR TOTAL CLOSURE, THERE IS NOTHING THAT HAS IDENTIFIED THAT FOR US NOW. IS THAT CORRECT, AUSTAN AND JESUS? OKAY.

Mayor Garcia: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND --

Alvarez: MAYOR?

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ.

Alvarez: I DID WANT TO OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AT LEAST TO THE MOTION AS IT IS LISTED ON HERE, ON THIS SHEET, BUT I THINK COUNCILMEMBER WYNN BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATEMENT IN PARENTHESIS, YOU HAD MENTIONED NOT TAKING ACTION ON CLOSING RIVERSIDE DRIVE UNTIL WE FIGURED OUT HOW TO REPLACE THE LOST TRAFFIC CAPACITY. AND I THINK WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE HOW WE CAN BEST DO THAT. BUT I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE CHANGED OR REPLACED@ THE RIVERSIDE TRAFFIC CAPACITY TO MITIGATE RIVERSIDE DRIVE LOST TRAFFIC CAPACITY OFF OF THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

Slusher: I WOULD ACCEPT THAT, MAYOR.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU ACCEPT THAT? OKAY. SO THE MAKER AND THE SECONDER HAVE ACCEPTED THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FROM COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ. FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF VOTE NUMBER 3, PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

Mayor Garcia: ONSED NO?

Wynn: NO.

Mayor Garcia: MOTION PASSES ON A VOTE OF SIX TO ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER WYNN VOTING NAY. NOW WE GET TO THE EASY ONES. LEFT TURN LANE FROM CONGRESS. THIS WOULD BE UNDER GROUP A, RESTRICT LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS ON CONGRESS AVENUE BETWEEN SECOND AND 10th STREET FOR A SIX-MONTH STUDY PERIOD.

Goodman: MAYOR, LET ME MAKE A COMMENT QUICKLY AND THEN I'M GOING TO RUN AND MAKE A PHONE CALL. MAYBE THIS WILL GO MORE QUICKLY IF I'M OUT OF THE ROOM. I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS AS AN ACTION. THIS JUST SEEMS TO GRATUITOUS TO ME. AND THE MORE EFFECTIVE AND LOGICAL ANSWER TO THE PROBLEMS ON CONGRESS I WOULD THINK IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY OUT SOMETHING, TRY OUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT HAS A LEFT TURN ONLY CYCLE ON IT, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE CONGESTION WILL BE -- LET ME CHANGE THAT. THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES WILL BE MUCH THE SAME, THE CONGESTION WILL BE VASTLY IMPROVED AS LONG AS THERE IS A PROTECTED TIME FOR CARS TO GO TO THE WEST. AND I THINK IF YOU CUT OUT THE ABILITY TO GO TO THE WEST, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SUCH A MESS BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR WAYS. ONCE YOU START HITTING THE CENTRAL CITY THERE'S LAMAR, THERE'S SOUTH FIRST, THERE'S CONGRESS COMING FROM THE SOUTH, AND LIKEWISE THE VARIOUS CONVERGE ENS FROM THE NORTH --

Mayor Garcia: TALKING ABOUT LIKE AT SECOND STREET WHERE WE HAVE THAT LEFT-TURN LIGHT?

Goodman: YES. SO IF YOU COMPLETELY CUT OFF THE ABILITY TO GO WEST, IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT THEN TO GO WEST --

Mayor Garcia: I GUESS WHERE YOU NEED THEM IS AT SIXTH AND EIGHTH AND 10th?

Goodman: YEAH, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY GOOD. SO ANYWAY, THIS -- THIS HAS NEVER SEEMED VERY RATIONAL TO ME, AND IT'S LIKE --

Mayor Garcia: MR. LIBRACH, COULD YOU LOOK AT THAT ISSUE?

I BELIEVE, YES, WE CAN. I BELIEVE WE HAVE. AND I'D LIKE TO ASK ONE OF OUR ENGINEERS WHO SPEAK TO THIS COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE, IF I MIGHT.

THAT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING WE CAN MODEL.

Mayor Garcia: CAN YOU GET CLOSE TO THE MIC.

GORDON DURR, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND SUSTAINABILITY. THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN MODEL AND LOOK THAT. FROM EXPERIENCE AT OTHER PLACES LIKE WHEN WE ADD A LEFT TURN PHASE WE USUALLY LOSE A PORTION OF THE CAPACITY OF INTERSECTION, AND THAT ALSO MEANS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DESIGNATE THAT LANE FOR LEFT TURNS, WHICH WOULD TAKE AWAY THEN PERMANENTLY THAT CAPACITY ON THE STREET. SO THERE ARE SOME CONSEQUENCES OF DOING THAT, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.

Goodman: I THINK, MAYOR, WE HAVE THAT SITUATION RIGHT NOW. AND WHAT YOU HAVE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE STACKED UP BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS DECIDED TO GO LEFT, AND SO I THINK THAT'S PUTTING THE LIGHT IN AND IT CAN ONLY HELP THAT. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO INVENT PEOPLE TRYING TO GO WEST.

Mayor Garcia: I THINK FOR THAT ONE IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO HAVE THEM MODEL ON SIXTH, EIGHTH AND 10th LEFT TURN LANES, I WOULD SECOND THAT.

Goodman: I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION.

Mayor Garcia: MOTION AND SECOND. DISCUSSION?

Wynn: MAYOR? I'LL JUST POINT OUT THAT I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THE LEFT TURN PROHIBITION AND I'M GLAD TO SEE SOME MODELING GOING ON, BUT IN PART BECAUSE IT'S ALSO THINKING THROUGH THIS, SO WITH A LEFT TURN PROHIBITION ONLY A FEW HOURS A DAY OR ONLY IF IT'S ALL DAY, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS ADD ANOTHER SIGN SOMEWHERE, I PRESUME ON THE CROSS MAST, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST THINK WE DO A HORRIBLE JOB OF SIGN MANAGEMENT ALREADY. WE HAVE CLUTTER UP AND DOWN THE STREET. I MEAN, EVERY POLE DOWNTOWN ON CONGRESS AVENUE HAS FIVE SIGNS STRAPPED TO IT, EVERYTHING FROM NO STANDING AND NO RIGHT TURNS TO ANY NUMBER OF THINGS. AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO ESSENTIALLY ADD ANOTHER PRESUMABLY IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE AN ACTUAL SIGN UP ON THE MAST BLOCKING THE VIEW TO THE CORRIDOR.

Mayor Garcia: THAT'S TO SEE IF YOU CAN DRIVE AND READ AT THE SAME TIME WITHOUT RUNNING INTO THE CAR IN FRONT OF YOU. [ LAUGHTER ]

Wynn: SO HAD WE HAD THIS VOTE, I WOULD BE VOTING AGAINST THE LEFT TURN PROHIBITION ON CONGRESS.

Mayor Garcia: WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT THIS ONE, BUT TO PUT LEFT TURN LIGHTS, TRAFFIC LIGHTS, AT SIXTH, EIGHTH AND 10th, TO MODEL THAT. THAT'S THE MOTION.

Slusher: MAYOR?

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER.

Slusher: I THINK I'M IN AGREEMENT TO GIVE THIS ONE -- LOOK AT THIS ONE A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY, BUT I DID PUT ON THE AGENDA, I HAD THIS AGENDA A FEW YEARS AGO ABOUT THE MAKING LEFT TURN ARROWS AT LIGHTS ON CONGRESS, AND IT WAS MODELED ARREST OR AT LEAST STUDIED BY THE STAFF AND THEY CAME BACK AND SAID THAT IT WOULD MAKE IT A LOT LESS SAFE OR AT LEAST ACCESSIBLE FOR PEDESTRIANS ALONG CONGRESS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD THE MODELING CAPACITY THAT WE DO NOW, BUT WE DID LOOK AT THAT ONCE BEFORE. AND I'M ALSO SAYING THAT IT IS HORRIBLE ON CONGRESS BECAUSE OF THE LEFT TURN -- BECAUSE OF PEOPLE TURNING LEFT. A LOT OF TIME YOU'LL SIT THROUGH ONE OR TWO TRAFFIC LIGHTS, ESPECIALLY DURING THE LUNCH HOUR ON THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE -- ONE CAR CAN MAKE A TURN LEFT. SO I SEE WHAT THE STAFF IS TRYING TO COME UP WITH, SO I WOULD SAY LET'S LOOK AT THOSE ALTERNATIVE. ANOTHER I THINK I WOULD HAVE IF WE CAN MODEL THIS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT, IS ONE PERSON TOLD ME JUST IN FRUSTRATION OF SITTING DOWN THERE DURING, LET'S SAY, FROM 4:00 TO 6:00 OAK THAT THEY THOUGHT IF WE JUST PUT THE LIGHTS ON A LONGER GREEN CYCLE AND TRY TO CLEAR THAT OUT REAL FAST, I REALIZE THAT MEANS THE PEOPLE GOING EAST AND WEST ARE SITTING THERE LONGER, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT MODEL JUST PUT THEM ON GREEN AND ROLL SOME CARS OUT OF THERE HEADING TO THE SOUTH DURING THE AFTERNOON.

Mayor Garcia: THE OTHER PROBLEMS WITH PEDESTRIANS IS WITHOUT THAT LEFT TURN TRAFFIC LIGHT, THE GUYS FINALLY GET A CHANCE TO MAKE THE LEFT TURN, THEY WHIZ BY AND IF SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO CROSS THE STREET ON SIXTH STREET, FORGET IT. WHEREAS IF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A LIGHT THAT SAYS, EVEN THAT THEY MACON FLIKT WITH A WALK SIGN GOING NORTH AND SOUTH, IT STILL IS I THINK A BETTER OPTION FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. THEY CAN MODEL IT.

Slusher: AND I GUESS THE OTHER ONES WILL BE SITTING THERE LONGER AT THE RED LIGHT. SO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THERE'S NOT A LEFT TURN LANE, BUT IF YOU HAD A LEFT TURN ARROW, IF THE TRAFFIC HEADING SOUTH IS TURNING LEFT, AND THE TRAFFIC SITTING NORTH WOULD HAVE TO SIT THERE LONGER. LET'S SEE. LET'S MODEL IT.

Goodman: I PERSONALLY THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE PULLING IT TRADE IT OFF FOR SAFETY.

Slusher: I DIDN'T HEAR THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

Goodman: THAT'S OKAY. I WAS JUST SAYING THAT I THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE WILLING TO AT LEAST TRY IT AS A TREADOFF FOR -- TRADE-OFF FOR SAFETY, FOR PROTECTED TURNS. THE PEDESTRIANS AND CARS ARE USED TO DOWNTOWN HAVING TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER AND THAT'S PART OF THE MODELING, FIGURING OUT WHERE THE HEAVIEST PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IS, ESPECIALLY AT PEAK TIMES AT EIGHTH AND 10th -- AT EIGHTH IT ESPECIALLY WOULD BE HEAVIER MAYBE AT SIXTH THAN AT 10th.

Mayor Garcia: YEAH. OKAY. FURTHER DISCUSSION ON VOTE NUMBER 4? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

Mayor Garcia: OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF I THINK IT WAS FIVE TO ZERO TO TWO SILENTS. SEVEN TO ZERO. I'LL TAKE A VOTE ON WAIVING THE 10:00 O'CLOCK HOUR FOR --

SO MOVE.

Thomas: DID YOU SAY WAIVE OR DON'T WAIVE.

Mayor Garcia: WAIVE. WAIVE THE 10:00 P.M. RULE. MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLEY. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

Mayor Garcia: MOTION CARRIES. VOTE NUMBER 5 IS TO RESTRICT PEAK HOUR LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS FROM LAMAR BOULEVARD TO FIFTH AND SIXTH STREET FOR A SIX-MONTH STUDY PERIOD.

Slusher: MAYOR?

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER.

Slusher: I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A MOTION FOR THIS, BUT I WOULD MOVE TO NOT DO THIS. I THINK THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA HAVE MADE SOME VERY GOOD POINTS ABOUT WHY NOT TO DO THIS.

Mayor Garcia: I AGREE WITH YOU.

Thomas: I SECOND IT.

Mayor Garcia: SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. DISCUSSION?

Slusher: I WANTED TO DISCUSS IT A LITTLE FURTHER.

Thomas: I DID TOO IF YOU DON'T MIND.

Slusher: I'M REAL SYMPATHETIC TO THE THINKING BEHIND THIS RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE BOTTLENECK IS ON LAMAR, AND IT'S A FAIRLY SERIOUS BOTTLENECK FOR MANY HOURS OF THE DAY. AND I REALLY THINK -- AND I'VE SAID THIS TO EVERYBODY THAT CAME IN MY OFFICE TRYING TO PERSUADE ME AGAINST THIS, WHICH THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL IN DOING, BUT I TOLD ALL OF THEM THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS CORNER. AND SEVERAL YEARS AGO I SENT TO THE STAKEHOLDERS, AS WE CALL THEM, AND TO THE CITY STAFF TO LOOK AT THE IDEAS OF PUTTING -- ONE PROPOSAL WAS TO PUT FIFTH AND SIXTH UNDER LAMAR. ANOTHER ONE WAS TO PUT LAMAR UNDER FIFTH AND SIXTH. AND IT CAME BACK WITH WIDESPREAD AGREEMENT THAT EVERYBODY HATED EVERY ONE OF THE OPTIONS. AND SO WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. AND TRAFFIC THERE HAS GOTTEN WORSE AND THE PROBLEMS ARE THE SAME THING AT FIFTH AND SIXTH STREET. SO I THINK WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A SEAR QUUS SERIOUS LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THERE TO ELIMINATE THAT BOTTLENECK, BUT I THINK A GOOD CASE HAS BEEN MADE TO THIS OPTION WOULD DAMAGE SOME OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.

Mayor Garcia: WE NEED A BOND ISSUE TO FIX LAMAR SO WE CAN DO THIS CORRECT, AND MAYBE WE OUGHT TO -- THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS MOTION.

Slusher: NOT THAT I WOULD SET A BOND ISSUE, NO. [ LAUGHTER ]

Mayor Garcia: FURTHER DISCUSSION NOT TO DO ANYTHING ON THE MOVEMENT FROM LAMAR TO FIFTH AND SIXTH. COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS?

Thomas: THAT WAS TRUE. IN THE WORK SESSION WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND I DIDN'T GET ANY REPORT. BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED HOW IT WOULD AFFECT THE PRESENT BUSINESS AND ALSO THE FUTURE BUSINESSES THAT ARE PROPOSED TO COME IN IN THAT AREA. SO I DIDN'T GET THAT. I FEEL THAT WE JUST NEED TO WAIT ALITTLE WHILE LONGER. IT IS A PROBLEM. IT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR YEARS. AS A POLICE OFFICER WE DID HAVE SEVERAL COLLISIONS THERE, AND IT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM, BUT I THINK IF WE WORK TOGETHER WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AND EVEN THE PRESENT AND FUTURE STAKEHOLDERS, MAYBE WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT THAT WOULD BENEFIT EVERYBODY.

Slusher: MAYOR, IF I COULD SAY ONE MORE THING. IN WASHINGTON, D.C. DUPONT CIRCLE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE -- IT'S REALLY ONE OF THE HOTTEST, I GUESS MOST POPULAR NEIGHBORHOODS IN WASHINGTON FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS AT LEAST, AND DUPONT CIRCLE IS A PARK THAT'S ON TOP OF WHERE CONNECTICUT AVENUE GOES UNDER THE GROUND. IT'S A VERY VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD THERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. THAT WOULD BE ONE POSSIBILITY THAT I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT.

Mayor Garcia: I THINK THE AREA NEEDS MAJOR SURGERY, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. OKAY. THE MOTION IS NOT TO DO ANYTHING ON VOTE NUMBER 5, WHICH IS LEFT TURN LANE ON LAMAR. FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

Mayor Garcia: OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO TO ONE WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM TEMPORARILY OFF THE DIAS. VOTE NUMBER 6 IS THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY. HAVE WE DONE ENOUGH STUDY ON THIS ONE? FROM THE INDICATIONS OF THE COMMENTS THAT I HEARD TODAY, I'M NOT SURE. YOU KNOW, WE DISCUSSED THIS ITEM IN A MEETING THAT WE HAD HAVING TO DO WITH THE FOURTH AND FIFTH STREET PROPOSED PROJECT THAT CAPITAL METRO IS TRYING TO GET UNDERWAY. AND PEOPLE EAST OF I-35 SAID THEY HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BIKEWAY, AT LEAST THE ONES THAT WERE THERE. SO HAVE WE DONE ANY STAKEHOLDER OR GROUP MEETINGS WITH ANYBODY EAST OF I-35?

YES, WE HAVE. WE HAVE DONE THAT WORK AND THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING EFFORT IS MOVING FORWARD ON THE SEGMENT EAST AND THE SEGMENT WEST OF DOWNTOWN.

Mayor Garcia: YOU WERE THERE. DO YOU REMEMBER THE COMMENT?

WELL, THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THAT IS HERE. MAYBE HE COULD SPEAK TO THE SPECIFICS.

YES, MAYOR. MY NAME IS TOM, PROJECT MANAGER FOR PUBLIC WORKS. WE HAD TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS DURING THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PHASE AND WHEN WE DEVELOPED THE ALIGNMENT. AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE HAD ABOUT 40 PEOPLE SHOW UP WHEN WE HELD OUR MEETING IN THE EAST AUSTIN AREA. AND WE HAD A SIMILAR AMOUNT WHEN WE HAD THE SECOND PUBLIC MEETING AT ONE TEXAS CENTER.

Mayor Garcia: SO YOU HAD ONE IN EAST AUSTIN? WHERE?

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE LIBRARY.

Mayor Garcia: ZAPATA?

I'M BLANK, SIR.

Mayor Garcia: DO YOU REMEMBER THE STREET?

NO.

THERE'S 20 QUESTIONS HERE. [ LAUGHTER ]

I'M NOT DOING GOOD.

WE CAN GET YOU THE NAME.

Mayor Garcia: WELL, THERE'S TWO LIBRARIES, ONE ON SEVENTH OR ONE ON FIRST OR CHAVEZ.

ONE CLOSE TO AN H.E.B.

NO, IT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN. MAYBE IT WAS A REC CENTER. [ LAUGHTER ]

IT WAS AT CONNALLY GUERRERO.

Mayor Garcia: WELL, CONNALLY GUERRERO IS QUITE A BIT AWAY FROM WHERE THIS BIKEWAY IS GOING TO BE. A MORE APPROPRIATE PLACE WOULD HAVE BEEN ALONG PAN AMERICAN REC CENTER.

YOU WERE IN BETTER STED ON THE LIBRARY.

Mayor Garcia: I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM -- WHAT IS IT LABELED VOTE 5, WHICH IS ACTUALLY VOTE 6.

Thomas: SO MOVE.

Mayor Garcia: TO DO WHAT?

Thomas: FOR NUMBER 6, DEDICATE -- IS IT 6-A,.

Mayor Garcia: IT IS TO DEDICATE BIKE LANES FOR THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY FROM FOURTH STREET TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THIS WOULD BE A CONCEPTUAL PROJECT, AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PROCEED WITH FEASIBILITY STUDIES. SO THE MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER -- ACTUALLY, THIS IS JUST PROCEED WITH IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROJECT IF RESOURCES AND FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE. THIS IS ACTUALLY TO GO ONLY THROUGH DOWNTOWN AREA. SO WHAT HAPPENS?

THAT PART HAS ALREADY BEEN STARTED AND APPROVED, AND THE ENGINEERING WORK, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING WORK ON THE TWO PIECES EAST AND WEST IS ALREADY UNDERWAY.

> Mayor Garcia: ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ. DISCUSSION?

Wynn: MAYOR? I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS. IN MY OPINION THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY IN DOWNTOWN SHOULD BE ON THIRD STREET.

Mayor Garcia: SAY THAT AGAIN.

Wynn: THE BIKEWAY SHOULD BE ON THIRD STREET. I'M VOTING AGAINST THE FOURTH STREET LOCATION THROUGH DOWNTOWN.

Mayor Garcia: YEAH, I THINK IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE PLACE, THIRD STREET, THAN FOURTH. FOURTH HAS ALL THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT STUFF AND EVERYTHING. DUPG DUNK MAYOR, I TOO AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FOURTH STREET LOCATION. TO ME IT DOESN'T PARTICULARLY LOOK SAFE FOR THE BIKERS OR FOR US. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE EITHER A THIRD STREET LOCATION OR SOME OTHER SAFER LOCATION FOR THE BIKEWAY. AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T INTERFERE -- WE'VE GOT A TIMING LIMIT ON THE GRANT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME TIME TO LOOK AT ALTERNATE ROUTES.

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS, CAN YOU ACCEPT A MOVEMENT TO THIRD?

Thomas: I WILL ACCEPT THAT. YES, I ACCEPT IT.

Wynn: MAYOR, IF I CAN, I SHOULD POINT OUT THE REASON WHY I WOULD PROPOSE THIRD STREET IS BECAUSE OF THE FOLLOWING VOTE, CESAR CHAVEZ, I'M VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO THE THIRD STREET SHUFFLE OF HAVING ROUTING WESTBOUND CESAR CHAVEZ THROUGH THE CORE DOWNTOWN ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE CONVENTION CENTER ON TRINITY ALL THE WAY ACROSS. SO A PART OF MY OPPOSITION ON THIS VOTE, THE FOURTH STREET FOR THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY, IS TIED TO MY DESIRE ALSO TO VOTE AGAINST THE THIRD STREET SHUFFLE AS IT WAS REFERRED ON CESAR CHAVEZ. SO I JUST WANT TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT.

Mayor Garcia: ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION ON DEDICATING THE LANES FOR THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY FROM THIRD STREET TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA?

ALSO YOU NEED TO DO ANYTHING HERE?

YES, I DO.

ALL RIGHT. YOU LOOKED FOR ME, SO I THOUGHT I'D CALL ON YOU.

A COUPLE OF POINTS TO MAKE, COUNCILMEMBER. WE DID LOOK AT THIRD STREET AS WELL AS EVERY OTHER STREET IN DOWNTOWN. WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL OF THEM. AND FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF SAFETY, THE ONE-WAY STREETS ARE CONSIDERED MUCH MORE UNSAFE THAN A TWO-WAY STREET FOR DEDICATED BIKEWAY. THIRD STREET AS WE RECOMMENDED WOULD BE A ONE-WAY STREET PAIRED WITH FIRST STREET. FIFTH AND SIXTH ARE ONE-WAY STREETS. FOURTH IS A TWO-WAY STREET AND WE RECOMMENDED IT BE DONE ON FOURTH STREET. IF IT WERE DONE ON THIRD STREET, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE WOULD LOSE THE GRANT FROM THE STATE SINCE IT WOULD NOT MEET THE STANDARDS SINCE THEY DO NOT ALLOW THIS KIND OF BIKEWAY ON A ONE-WAY STREET. NOW, I HAVE -- I MAY BE INCORRECT ON THAT, BUT I THINK THAT IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE COULDN'T DO IT, WE JUST WOULD NOT HAVE THE GRANT TO DO IT.

WHAT IS THE GRANT AMOUNT, AUSTAN.

IT'S 3.2 MILLION. AND COUNTER FLOW BIKE LANE IS A REAL CHALLENGE TO THE DESIGN. THE PROBLEMS WITH THIRD STREET IS THAT THERE IS 13 MID BLOCK ACCESSES ON THIRD STREET AND SEVERAL LOADING DOCKS ON THERE, WHICH MAKE IT VERY CHALLENGING FOR THE CYCLISTS AND THEY'LL HAVE THOSE CON 96 ON THIRD STREET.

Wynn: PARDON ME, BUT ONE, THIRD STREET IS TWO-WAY NOW, SO IT'S NOT A CONFLICT WITH THE STATE GRANT. AND SECONDLY, FOURTH STREET IS NOTHING BUT LOADING DOCKS. HAVE YOU WALKED TO SINCLAIR BLACK'S OFFICE OR TO THE CEDAR DOOR OR TO THE SPAGHETTI WAREHOUSE? HOW ABOUT THE PHENOMENAL, YOU KNOW, RAIDI CONCRETE STEPS WE HAVE AT FOURTH AND COLORADO. THOSE ARE ALL LOADING DOCKS.

CORRECT. BUT THEY'RE NOT ACTIVELY BEING USED AS BACKING UP TRUCKS.

A LOT MORE PEOPLE ON THOSE STREETS, BODIES AND PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT OF BUSINESSES THAN THERE ARE ON THE ONE LOADING DOCK ON THIRD STREET OVER BY THE FREIGHT COMPANY. NO COMPARISON BETWEEN THE CONFLICTS OF LOADING DOCKS ON THIRD VERSUS FOURTH OF THE FOURTH IS NOTHING BUT LOADING DOCKS. AND THIRD STREET IS TWO-WAY NOW. THERE'S NO CONFLICT.

AND IF IT'S TWO-WAY, IF THIRD STREET IS TWO-WAY, THEN WE COULD IMPLEMENT THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY ON THIRD STREET. IF YOU MAKE IT ONE WAY AND HAVE THE COUNTER FLOW, THAT'S WHERE YOU RUN INTO THE PROBLEM WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO MEET ASHTO STANDARDS. SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S CLEAR. SO THIRD STREET IS TWO-WAY --

Wynn: I DROVE IT YESTERDAY. IT'S TWO-WAY. WE HAVEN'T VOTED TO CHANGE IT TO ONE WAY.

THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. YES.

THAT'S A GOOD CLARIFICATION. YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MOVE THIRD STREET TO A ONE-WAY STREET. THAT WOULD MAKE IT THE REASON YOU WERE NOT RECOMMENDING THE BIKEWAY ON THIRD. SO IF THE BIKEWAY STAYS ON THIRD -- OR IS VOTED ON FOR THIRD, WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO KEEP THIRD TWO-WAY OR LOSE THE GRANT.

Wynn: EXACTLY. THE ONLY REASON I'M VOTING AGAINST FOURTH STREET IS BECAUSE I WANT IT ON THIRD STREET, AND THE ONLY REASON I DO THAT IS BECAUSE I WANT TO VOTE TO HAVE THIRD STREET TWO-WAY. I'M NOT TRYING TO JEOPARDIZE ANY FUNDING WHATSOEVER. I'M TRYING TO USE AN EXISTING TWO-WAY STREET FOR THE LAS LANCE BIKEWAY AND NOT SEND IT THROUGH THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT WHERE THERE'S LOADING DOCKS AND WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT STAKEHOLDER OPPOSITION.

CAN THREE-WAY STAY TWO-WAY, AUSTAN, WITHOUT THE CONVERSION WITHOUT CESAR CHAVEZ STAYING TWO-WAY, BEING TWO-WAY? IN YOUR MODEL.

NO. LET ME ASK THE ENGINEER TO SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL. I'LL ASK GORDON TO SPEAK TO THAT. I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU OVERLOAD THE EASTBOUND TRAFFIC IF YOU DO THAT. BUT LET ME ASK HIM TO SPEAK MORE SPECIFICALLY TO THAT.

JUST ONE CLARIFICATION. IN ORDER -- THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY WILL HAVE TO BE ON FOURTH UP UNTIL TRINITY BECAUSE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER. TO MOVE IT TO THIRD THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE TRINITY BETWEEN THIRD AND FOURTH TWO-WAY, WHICH THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT. SO THAT'S SOME ADDITIONAL ISSUES. RIGHT NOW I THINK WE'RE -- WESTBOUND WE'RE DOING ABOUT 2,000 CARS AN HOUR ON -- BETWEEN SECOND AND THIRD STREET. WESTBOUND IN THE EVENING PEAK HOUR, FOR EXAMPLE. AND WITH SECOND STREET GOING TO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO HANDLE THAT CAPACITY SAYS DISEZ STAY ONE WAY EASTBOUND.

Futrell:: SO WHATEVER THE DECISION, I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE DOMINO DECISION. IT MAY BE GOOD FOR YOU OR BAD FOR YOU, BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE DOMINO DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE.

CONSULTANT FROM WHM, HEIDI ROSS.

I'M HEIDI WITH WHM, PART OF THE WILBUR SMITH CONSULTING TEAM. I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE 2000 TRAFFIC VOLUME ON CESAR CHAVEZ TO THE WEST OF SAN ANTONIO WHERE THE SECOND STREET SHUFFLE COMES BACK AROUND WAS 4,000 VEHICLES IN THE P.M. PEAK AND IT'S A PRETTY EVEN DISTRIBUTION IN THE EVENING HOUR, MEANING ABOUT HALF OF THAT TRAFFIC IS HEADED BACK TOWARDS MOPAC. SO IF YOU REMOVE SECOND STREET IS GOING TO BE GONE BECAUSE IT'S ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. SO YOU'RE REMOVING A CRITICAL ARTERY OUT OF DOWNTOWN IF YOU DO NOT PROVIDE A PATHWAY FOR THOSE EXITING VEHICLES. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THIRD STREET, WE'VE LOST SECOND. IF WE DON'T HAVE THIRD, THEN THAT ARTERY IS GONE.

Wynn: SO WEST OF SAN ANTONIO, WESTBOUND ON CESAR CHAVEZ THERE'S TO LANES. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO LANES HEADING WESTBOUND OUT OF DOWNTOWN ON CESAR CHAVEZ WEST OF SAN ANTONIO. WE HAVE TWO LANES AT I-35 HEADING WESTBOUND ON CESAR CHAVEZ UP UNTIL BRAZOS CURRENTLY. ALL WE'RE DOING IS FLOATING TWO LANES AROUND AND THEN RUNNING THEM THROUGH THE CORRIDOR OF DOWNTOWN, RUNNING THEM ALONGSIDE THE EXPANDED CONVENTION CENTER. I'M SUGGESTING WE MAINTAIN THE PERFECT STATUS QUO OF HAVING TWO LANES HEADING WESTBOUND OUT OF DOWNTOWN. TWO LANES -- TWO LANES EAST OF BRAZOS, THERE'S TWO LANES WEST OF SAN ANTONIO. I'M SUGGESTING WE CONNECT THOSE TWO LANES AND HAVE TWO LANES DOWNTOWN. THIS ALSO TIES INTO ANOTHER POINT WE TALKED ABOUT FIFTH AND SIXTH AND LAMAR. RIGHT NOW EVEN THOUGH IT'S AGAINST THE LAW AND WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS TRUCKS ON EAST SIXTH STREET BETWEEN I-35 AND CONGRESS, WE DON'T ENFORCE IT BECAUSE ALL THE TRUCK TRAFFIC ACTUALLY TAKES SIXTH STREET FROM I-35 TO MOPAC, EVEN ALL THEM KNOWING HOW BAD LAMAR AND SIXTH IS, THEY DO THAT ROUTE VERSUS DRIVING SLOWER ON CESAR CHAVEZ WESTBOUND AND DOING THIS -- AS BAD AS WE HAVE IT NOW, WE'RE PREPARED IT MAKE IT WORSE, THIS SECOND STREET SHUFFLE THAT IS NOW THE SECOND AND THIRD STREET SHUFFLE, WE'RE ACTUALLY PART OF THIS PLAN ON THIS NEXT VOTE IS TO MAKE THE SHUFFLE WORSE, INCLUDING ROUTING THEM ALONGSIDE TWO SIDES OF THE CONVENTION CENTER. AS I TOLD PEOPLE EARLIER, I WAS THERE LAST FRIDAY AND THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, 14-WHEEL COACH BUSES DOUBLE PARKED UP AND DOWN TRINITY BECAUSE THERE WAS A BIG CONVENTION GOING ON AND PEOPLE WERE POURING OUT AND TAKING BUS TOURS. SO A PART OF THE REASON WHY FIFTH AND SIXTH AND LAMAR IS SO BAD IS BECAUSE TRUCKS HE WILL ILLEGALLY THAT WE DON'T ENFORCE OUR ORDINANCE, THOSE TRUCKS DRIVE FROM I-35 TO MOPAC ON SIXTH STREET. I'M SUGGESTING THAT SIXTH AND LAMAR ACTUALLY IMPROVES SLIGHTLY IF WE FINALLY GIVE UP THE GHOST HERE AND MAKE CESAR CHAVEZ TWO-WAY THE ENTIRE WAY, THEN AN 18-WHEELER WILL DRIVE PERHAPS SLOWER ON A TWO-LANE BOULEVARD ON CESAR CHAVEZ THAN THEY DO CURRENTLY DRIVING THROUGH AN AREA THAT WE HAVE ALREADY POSTED AS BEING AGAINST THE LAW FOR TRUCKS. SO THERE'S NUMEROUS ELEMENTS TO THE RATIONALE.

IF I MY SPEAK FOR A MOMENT AS THE WEST END AND THE WEST END OF CESAR CHAVEZ WORK FAIRLY WELL WITH TWO LANES. THE PROBLEM COMES IN THAT IN THE YEAR 2000 ON THE DRAKE BRIDGE WE COUNTED 3800 CARS AN HOUR IN THE EVENING PEAK HOUR AND 2800 ON CONGRESS, ON THE BRIDGE. AND WHEN WE COME TO CESAR CHAVEZ AND CONGRESS, GUADALUPE AND LAVACA, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'VE TAKEN SEVEN LANES CROSSING CONGRESS AND TAIN IT DOWN TO FOUR, WHICH MEANS THAT WE HAVE EITHER TWICE AS MANY CARS BACKED UP ON CESAR CHAVEZ, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE TIME FROM CONGRESS AND GUADALUPE, LAVACA TO KEEP THE DELAYS THE SAME ON CESAR CHAVEZ. IT SIMPLY COMES DOWN TO THE SHUFFLE ALLOWS US TO HAVE FOUR LANES EASTBOUND AND THREE LANES WESTBOUND FOR SEVEN LANES CROSSING THE CROSSING FLOWS, WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO DOWNTOWN AND VERY VERY HEAVY. AND THAT'S REALLY, AS YOU SAY, THE TWO ENDS WORK OKAY. IT'S THE TWO BIG FLOWS OF TRAFFIC OVER THE TWO BRIDGES THAT MAKE THE BIG DIFFERENCE RIGHT THERE IN THE CORE OF DOWNTOWN AND WHY WE HAVE TO SHUFFLE WHEN HOPEFULLY IN THE LONG-TERM WE CAN FIND A BETTER SOLUTION.

Wynn: YOU'RE KIDDING YOURSELF IF YOU THINK IN THE LONG-TERM THERE'S A BETTER SOLUTION. RIGHT NOW CITY HALL ISN'T OCCUPIED. RIGHT NOW THE AMLI BLOCKS AREN'T EVEN BUILT. RIGHT NOW CSC IS AT 40% OCCUPANCY AND RIGHT NOW DOWNTOWN OCCUPANCY IS AT A FIVE-YEAR LOW. WE'RE KIDDING OURSELVES IF WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE EASIER FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN CITY HALL IS FULL, WHEN BLOCK 21 IS BUILT OUT, WHEN AMLI HAS 4,000 RESIDENTS LIVING THERE, WHEN THE AUSTIN MUSEUM OF ART IS BUILT OR SOMETHING ELSE BUILT THERE, WHEN THE SEAHOLM POWER PLANT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH THE RETROFIT. WE'RE KIDDING OURSELVES. AS PAINFUL AS IT MIGHT BE TO TRY TO FIX THIS DISASTER, IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE EASIER THAN IT IS OVER THIS NEXT YEAR TO DO THIS. THE ALTERNATIVE NOW IS TO TAKE TRAFFIC AND ROUTE IT UP THE WESTBOUND SIDE OF OUR CONVENTION CENTER FOR TWO BLOCKS, CROSSING THE SECOND STREET RETAIL WE'RE ALSO PROUD OF AND TRYING TO SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY. I WAS THERE THE OTHER DAY AND THERE WERE A THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT WERE JAY WALKING ACROSS TRINITY FROM ANY NUMBER OF THE EIGHT DOORS WE HAVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, POURING INTO SECOND STREET RETAIL. GUESS WHAT, TO GO EAST LUNCH AT PF CHANG'S, TO WALK INTO THE CONVENTION CENTER PARKING GARAGE. THERE WERE A THOUSAND PEDESTRIANS. IT WAS LIKE THANK GOD GOD, SOMETHING IS WORKING DOWN THERE, THERE'S SOME BODIES DOWN THERE. NOW WE'RE ABOUT TO ROUTE CESAR CHAVEZ FOR TWO BLOCKS THROUGH THAT. THEN WE'RE GOING TO SEND IT WESTBOUND ON THIRD STREET ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE CORE OF OUR DOWNTOWN, WE'RE GOING TO SEPARATE THE NEW AMLI RESIDENTIAL, 4,000 BODIES WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT TO LIVE DOWNTOWN ALONG SECOND AND THIRD STREET, WE'RE GOING TO SEPARATE THEM FROM THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT, WE'RE GOING TO SEPARATE CITY HALL FROM REPUBLIC SQUARE, WE'RE GOING TO SEPARATE BALLET AUSTIN FROM AUSTIN MUSEUM OF ART. IT'S RIDICULOUS. IF THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THE THIRD STREET SHUFFLE. SO BECAUSE OF THAT WE'RE ALSO NOW GOING TO ROUTE THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY THROUGH THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT WHEN THAT 80-FOOT SECTION IS THE TIGHTEST 80-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY SECTION WE HAVE IN DOWNTOWN BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING LOADING DOCKS ON BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH SIDEWALKS ON THAT BLOCK. I THINK WE'RE JUST LOST OUR MINDS HERE TO WORSEN AND EXTEND THIS NOW THIRD STREET SHUFFLE. AS BAD AS IT HAS BEEN OVER THE YEARS ON THE SECOND STREET, WE'RE MAKING IT SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER AND MORE COMPLEX, MORE DANGEROUS FOR THE BODIES THAT WE HOPE TO BRING DOWN THERE.

Slusher: MAYOR?

Mayor Garcia: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER MAY HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO SOLVE ALL THIS.

Slusher: ACTUALLY, IF I -- I DON'T THINK I CAN SOLVE IT, NOT TONIGHT, MAYOR.

Mayor Garcia: I MEAN TONIGHT. FOR TONIGHT.

Slusher: YEAH, FOR TONIGHT. WE'VE MADE A NUMBER OF IMPORTANT DECISIONS THIS EVENING, AND THE IDEA THE CITY MANAGER SUGGESTED TO ME. I'M NOT SURE IF IT ORIGINALLY CAME FROM THE MAYOR OR NOT. BUT THAT IT WAS THAT WE TAKE SOME OF THESE AND NOT APPROVE THEM TONIGHT AND FOCUS ON THEM A LITTLE MORE, REALLY FOCUS ON THEM AT A WORK SESSION AND THEN COME BACK AND VOTE ON THEM INDIVIDUALLY. AND I THINK THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY IS GOING TO BE A GREAT FACILITY FOR THIS CITY. AND I WANT TO DO IT ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, GIVE IT THE FULL ATTENTION WE CAN. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE NOT DECIDE ON IN ONE TONIGHT, WE BRING IT BACK FOR A WORK SESSION AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, AND I WOULD DO THE SAME WITH THE NEXT ONE, THE CESAR CHAVEZ. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER WYNN MAKES SOME GOOD POINTS. HE'S REALLY CLEARLY FOCUSED ON THIS. THE STAFF HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME TOO AND THEY HAVE SOME FAIRLY STRONG DISAGREEMENT. I THINK WE WOULD ALL BENEFIT FROM HEARING FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THAT PROBABLY ABOUT 12 HOURS EARLIER ON A DIFFERENT DAY. SO I WOULD MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE BOTH OF THOSE TO A WORK SESSION.

Mayor Garcia: THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE THE LANCE ARMSTRONG AND THE CESAR CHAVEZ VOTES UNTIL WE DO FURTHER STUDY AND HAVE MORE TIME AND A FRESHER MIND OF COUNCILMEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO THAN AT THIS MOMENT --

Slusher: I ENVISION SOMETIME? JANUARY AND DO IT KICKLY.

Mayor Garcia: I'M GOING TO SECOND THAT MOTION. DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

Mayor Garcia: OPPOSED NO?

CAN WE DO NUMBER 7 THE SAME WAY. MOISTURE MOISTURE IT WAS --

Mayor Garcia: IT WAS SEVEN TO ZERO, I THINK. THE LAST ONE IS THE ONE -- THE EASY ONES. AND THAT HAS ITEM 6 TO CONVERT BRAZOS AND COLORADO TO TWO-WAY BETWEEN BRAZOS AND 11TH. ALSO BETWEEN GUADALUPE AND I-35. ONE YEAR AFTER COMPLETE STAFF SHALL PREPARE A REPORT. 8 IS CONVERT SEVEN AND EIGHTH TO TWO-WAY BETWEEN I-35 AND GUADALUPE. #-, I-35 TO NUECES. AND 9 IS TO CONVERT TRINITY BETWEEN THIRD STREET AND 15TH STREET AND SAN JACINTO STREET BETWEEN CESAR CHAVEZ AND 15TH TO TWO-WAY TRAFFIC FLOWS. SECOND PHASE CHANGES TO BE MADE AFTER NINTH AND 10th STREET CHANGES AND EVALUATION. UNDER GROUP B, IS TO COORDINATE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS TO AIF AND ADDRESS -- AND ADDRESS ADDITION TO ANY STREET THROUGH THE CAPITOL COMPLEX. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE REFERENCES THAT WAS MADE BY REPRESENTATIVE KEEL. GROUP C IS BEFORE THE TRAFFIC FLOW OF ANY DOWNTOWN STREET SEGMENT IS SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED, CITY STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDER GROUPS ON BLOCK BY BLOCK, DEVELOPMENT BY DEVELOPMENT BASIS TO MITIGATE ISSUES ARISING FROM THE CHANGE. CITY STAFF WILL DEVELOP APPROPRIATE AGREEMENTS WITH THE REASONERS RELATING TO CHANGES IN TRAFFIC FLOW DIRECTION AS FUNTDZ ARE AVAILABLE. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MOTIONS, WHATEVER?

Slusher: I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE IN. AND I THINK THE TWO THAT WE'RE STARTING WITH WOULD HAVE THE LEAST IMPACT. I PERSONALLY HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT 7, BUT I'M -- BUT THAT WOULDN'T OCCUR UNTIL AFTER THESE FIRST TWO, BRAZOS, COLORADO AND NINTH AND 10th HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION AND EVALUATED. WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS FOR A LONG TIME. THE ARE RUDAT SAYS ISES IMPORTANT TO HAVE TWO-WAY STREETS. THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE IS IN FAVOR OF IT AND SOME OTHERS ARE, SOME I REALLY RESPECT, BUT I REALLY THINK DOING IT IN THIS PHASED IN WAY IS THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO GO.

Mayor Garcia: IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION?

Alvarez: I'LL SECOND IT MAYOR.

Mayor Garcia: SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ. DISCUSSION?

Alvarez: I'LL SPEAK TO MY SECOND. THIS HAS BEEN OBVIOUSLY A LONG ISSUE THAT WE'VE LOOBLGD AT AND -- LOOKED AT AND HEARD IF A LOT OF FOLKS THAT HAVE AN INTEREST IN DOWNTOWN, AND OBVIOUSLY HAVE AN INTEREST IN DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THEY WORK THERE OR BECAUSE THEY HAVE BUSINESSES THERE OR BECAUSE THEY COME DOWN THERE FOR RECREATION OR JUST PART OF -- JUST PART OF WHAT THEY DO AS PART OF THE LIFE THEY LEAD HERE IN THE CITY. AND THERE'S APPROXIMATE -- THIS HAS BEEN A TOUGH ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, THE MOBILITY AND TRAFFIC FLOW, BUT ALSO THE GREAT STREET ASPECTS. AND I THINK IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR PLAN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE. CERTAINLY NOT TO THE EXTENT THAT EITHER OF THOSE STUDIES OR ANALYSES WOULD CALL FOR ON THEIR OWN, AND I REALLY THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE STATISTICS IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC FLOWS AND THE MODELING THAT, MOST THE STREETS YOU DON'T SEE, BUT YOU DON'T SEE MINUTES AND MINUTES OF AN INCREASE IN SOME OF THESE ARTERIALS. AND I THINK THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE WE TOOK THE APPROACH OF MAKING SURE THE MAJOR ARTERIALS ARE RESPECTED OR MAINTAINED AND THEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE MINOR ARTERIALS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, AND TO CONVERT THOSE. AND TO A CERTAIN DEGREE THAT'S TO DISBURSE TRAFFIC ON THOSE -- FROM THOSE MAJOR ARTERIALS IF PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND OUT OF DOWNTOWN FROM. BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE -- WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE OR HOW TO LOOK AT THIS, I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO LOOK AT IT FOR A GREATER DIVISION FOR URBAN DESIGN OF DOWNTOWN. AND I THINK IN ORDER TO PROJECT INTO THE FUTURE OF WHAT WE WANT THE DOWNTOWN TO LOOK LIKE, YOU SHOULDN'T JUST LOOK AT ONE ISSUE IN TERMS OF THIS TRAFFIC FLOW OR HOW MANY SECONDS OF A REDUCTION IN TRAVEL OR OF AN INCREASE IN TRAVEL TIME, BUT YOU LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON PEDESTRIANS AND ON TRANSIT AND ON CAPACITY, AND I THINK WHAT THIS PLAN DOES, I BELIEVE, IS YOU TRY TO CHOOSE THE OPTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BEST MAXIMIZE THE EFFECT IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT AREAS AND MAKE IT A GREAT DOWNTOWN. AND I THINK ONE OF THE GROUPS THAT WAS MENTIONED HERE AS BEING OPPOSED TO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IS CALLED CITIZENS FOR KEEPING DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ACCESSIBLE. AND SO IF I PLUGGED THAT INTO GOOOGLE TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THIS GROUP AND WHAT ARE THEY ADVOCATING AND ACTUALLY THE FIRST ENTRY THAT POPS UP IS RUDAT, THE VERY FIRST RUDAT REPORT. SO I JUST LOOKED THERE AND TO LOOK AT ORIGINALLY FROM THE ORIGINAL REPORT, AND I GUESS WHAT WAS SOME OF THE VISIONS AND THE REASONS FOR LOOKING AT TWO-WAY CONVERSIONS. AND IT SAYS CITIES SHOULD AIM TO UNIFY FUNCTION AND FORM, RESIDENTS AND VISITORS SHOULD FEEL THAT DOWNTOWN IS A SPACIOUS, INVITING STRUCTURE WITH WELL-SPACED CORRIDORS AND A SENSIBLE BLUEPRINT. DOWNTOWN AUSTIN SHOULD BE A PLACE TO GO TO, NOT THROUGH. ACHIEVING THIS GOAL WOULD BE DIFFERENT METHODS OF TRANSPORTATION, SLOWING AND REDUCING AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC AND INCREASING PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY. THE OVERALL GOAL IS TO CREATE USER FRIENDLY LINKAGES, TO CORRECT DOWNTOWN TO NERVE CENTERS. INSTALLING THE SPECULATOR SYSTEM LIKE THE DILLO ROUTES WILL ACHIEVE -- EFFORTS WILL BE TAKEN TO LINK AUSTIN WITH DOWNTOWN AND THE PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL BARRIER OF INTERSTATE 35 MUST BE REDUCED. AND IN LOOKING AT ALL OF THE PROPOSALS IN THIS -- THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN MOBILITY PLAN, WE'VE COME A LONG WAY TO DO THAT. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS IN TERMS OF FIRST AND THIRD STREET AND THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY ISSUE. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT AT LEAST WITH THESE ARTERIALS THAT DON'T SERVE AS MAJOR THOROUGHFARES NECESSARILY THAT IT IS AN APPROPRIATE THING FOR US TO DO. AND PHASING IT IN ALSO I BELIEVE ALLOWS US TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT TO SEE WHETHER IT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT OUR PROJECTIONS SHOW. SO FOR THAT REASON I'LL BE -- I'LL SECOND AND BE SUPPORTING COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER'S MOTION.

Mayor Garcia: I GUESS THE MOST CRITICAL PART OF THIS IS GROUP B, NUMBER 2. COORDINATE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS TO IDENTIFY AND ADDRESS POSSIBLE ISSUES CREATED BY TWO-WAY CONVERSION OF ANY STREET THROUGH THE CAPITOL COMPLEX. AND I GUESS THE CAPITOL COMPLEX IS LARGER THAN JUST THE CAPITOL ITSELF. IT GOES ALL THE WAY NORTH AND SOUTH TO THE CAPITOL EAST AND WEST. AND GROUP C, YOU KNOW. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT SIGNIFICANTLY MEANS IN THE CONTEXT OF HAVING NUMBER 1 UNDER GROUP C, BEFORE THE TRAFFIC FLOW OF ANY DOWNTOWN STREET SEGMENT IS SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED -- WHAT DOES THAT SIGNIFICANTLY MEAN IN THIS CONTEXT?

WELL, WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT CHANGING IT FROM ONE-WAY TO TWO-WAY.

Mayor Garcia: SO WE CAN TAKE THE WORD SIGNIFICANTLY OUT?

YES, SIR.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. SO IT WILL READ BEFORE THE TRAFFIC FLOW OF ANY DOWNTOWN STREET SEGMENT IS CHANGED, CITY STAFF WILL WORK... OKAY.

Wynn: MAYOR, I WANTED TO OFFER A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER IN PART -- PRIMARILY BASED ON JUST THE LACK OF CONSENSUS WE'VE SEEN ON THIS AND HOW MANY -- AND HOW DIFFERENT AREAS AND DIFFERENT GROUPS, WHETHER IT'S THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT MERCHANTS OR WHETHER IT'S THE CONGRESS AVENUE MERCHANTS, THERE'S NOT THE CONSENSUS. AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE DELAYED ACTION FOR FURTHER STUDY ON THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY AND CESAR CHAVEZ FOR GOOD RONZ, I APPRECIATE THAT -- REASONS, I APPRECIATE THAT, THEN ALSO THAT ULTIMATE DECISION TIES BACK IN TO THIS DEBATE BECAUSE IN THEORY IF WE WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT DECISION OR A DIFFERENT MODEL BASED ON CESAR CHAVEZ, TRINITY CHANGES LIKELY IF PART OF THE ANSWER TO FIXING THE CESAR CHAVEZ SHUFFLE IS HAVING OUR PARKERS AND OUR PARKING GARAGE FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER ACCESS OFF OF SAN JACINTO, THEN THE TRAFFIC FLOW ON SAN JACINTO AT LEAST IN THE SOUTHERN BLOCK, THE FIRST BLOCK OF SAN JACINTO MIGHT BE CHANGED, AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE THE ISSUE OF SAN ANTONIO ON THE WEST IF WE'RE TRYING TO ALLEVIATE THE SHUFFLE. SO I SEE, YOU KNOW, JUST BASED ON -- BASED ON THE COORDINATION OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO WITH THE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY AND WE HEARD OF TAKING THIRD STREET AND THEN HAVING TO ROUTE THE BIKEWAY UP TO FOURTH AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, SO THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE DIRECTIONAL FLOW OF TRINITY BETWEEN THIRD AND FOURTH, THEN WE'RE BEING SHORT SIGHTED HERE. BUT ILLUSTRATELY REALLY I'M -- I WAS PREPARED TO DO THIS EARLIER. WE HAVEN'T DONE A GOOD JOB, AND AS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE DAA, I THINK THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE A GOOD JOB OF DEVELOPING THE CONSENSUS AMONGST ALL THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES DOWNTOWN.

Mayor Garcia: DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? WITHIN WITHIN IT WOULD BE TO POSTPONE THE TWO-WAY --

Mayor Garcia: TO POSTPONE. TO STUDY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PRIOR TWO THAT WE POSTPONED TOO?

Wynn: YES.

Mayor Garcia: OKAY. MOTION AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLEY.

Wynn: SORRY. I'M SORRY. I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

Slusher: LET ME ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

IT MIGHT BE FRIENDLY.

Slusher: YEAH. WELL, PEOPLE ARE PRETTY FRIENDLY ABOUT MY LAST MOTION. [ LAUGHTER ] WELL, COUNCILMEMBER, WOULD YOU -- WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO, WE HAD THIS BEFORE US SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS POSTPONED AT THAT TIME. AND I THINK THAT WAS -- I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY THE PROPOSAL, BUT I THINK IT ENTAILED MORE OF ONE THAT WAS LESS CAUTIOUS THAN THIS ONE IS. SO WOULD WE GET TO THIS IN JANUARY? IS THAT WHAT YOU ENVISION JUST LIKE THE OTHER ONE?

Wynn: FRANKLY, I THINK IT'S MORE THAN OUR INTERNAL DEBATES AND ISSUES AND PLANNING ON CESAR CHAVEZ AND LANCE ARMSTRONG. I THINK IT'S THE DAA AND SEVERAL MERCHANT RESIDENT GROUPS IN DOWNTOWN TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME CONSENSUS ON IT. AND SEEING WHETHER THERE'S ANY IMPROVEMENT THERE. AND IF NOT, I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON IT.

Slusher: I'LL YIELD TO COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLEY.

Dunkerley: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT TOO. I WOULD SEE US AT LEAST DELAYING UNTIL FEBRUARY, UNTIL AFTER WE'VE THOUGHT THROUGH THESE OTHER ISSUES TO SEE THOUSAND THEY IMPACT IT. AND ACTUALLY, I AM CONCERNED THAT WE DO SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE STATE SINCE THEY'VE WRITTEN US A LETTER AND SAID THEY'RE INTERESTED IN WHAT WE'RE DOING AROUND THE CAPITOL. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AT LEAST ARE COMMUNICATING BETTER WITH THEM.

Slusher: I JUST DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A VOTE TO KILL -- IF WE'RE GOING TO DELAY IT AND DISCUSS IT AND COME BACK TO IT IN FEBRUARY WOULD BE FAIRLY SOON IN MY OPINION, BUT IF WE'RE JUST KILLING IT BY DELAYING IT TONIGHT, I DON'T WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE THAT WASN'T MY INTENT ON THE PREVIOUS MOTION I MADE.

CAN I GET A CLARIFIER? WE HAVE A TIME LINE ON OUR GRANT ON LANCE ARMSTRONG. WHAT IS THAT TIME LINE?

WE HAVE A THREE-YEAR GRANT. WE'RE AT THE END OF THE SECOND YEAR BASICALLY.

SO THERE IS -- A MONTH'S DELAY IS NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE ON THE GRANT?

IF WE DON'T SHOW PROGRESS WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, PERHAPS THAT WOULD BE A BETTER ANSWER HERE, WE RUN THE RISK OF POTENTIALLY LOSING THE GRANT. AND IF WE'RE --

REAL SPECIFIC. IF THIS ENTIRE DISCUSSION ON TWO-WAY STREETS, WHICH INCLUDES A DISCUSSION OF WHERE THE BIKEWAY WOULD GO, IS DELAYED UNTIL, SAY, FEBRUARY, DO A STAKEHOLDER IN THAT PROCESS THAT CONTINUES, DOES THAT -- DOES IT HURT THE GRANT? IT SOUND LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IT DOESN'T.

WE WOULD HAVE TO REQUEST FROM TXDOT AN EXTENSION PERIOD ON THAT, AND SO IT THEIR WILL TO DO THAT.

WAIT A SECOND. I THOUGHT WE WERE AT THE EPD OF YEAR TWO AND WE HAVE A THREE-YEAR GRANT.

RIGHT. SO IF WE NEED MORE TIME TO FINISH THAT PROCESS AND GET IT IMPLEMENTED, AND TO DO THAT WE'D PROBABLY NEED TO REQUEST FOR A TILE EXTENSION FROM TXDOT -- TIME STEPTION FROMFROM TXDOT AND THEY HAVE GRANTED THOSE ON OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING.

WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS A DECISION NOW BY COUNCIL WOULD STILL TAKE US THE WHOLE NEXT YEAR BEFORE WE WOULD BE IMPLEMENTING THE PROJECT. SO A DELAY FOR THREE OR FOUR MONTHS WOULD PUSH US BEYOND THE THREE YEARS.

Slusher: WE'RE ONLY TALKING ONE MONTH DELAY ON THAT.

I THINK WE'RE OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T BUMPED UP AGAINST A -- I JUST HAD HEARD DISCUSSION OF A GRANT. SO IT SOUND LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE OKAY. IF WE REQUEST AN EXTENSION, WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO ANYWAY, AND ONE MONTH, TWO MONTHS, ISN'T GOING TO OR BREAK -- MAKE OR BREAK.

HOPEFULLY.

HOPEFULLY.

Mayor Garcia: MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLEY WITH THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. FURTHER DISCUSSION?

Goodman: YES, MAYOR.

Mayor Garcia: MAYOR PRO TEM?

Goodman: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO WAS PART OF TRYING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER IN A LOGICAL AND ORGANIZED MANNER. I WANT TO ALSO SAY THAT THE VISION OF TWO-WAY STREETS IS DEFINITELY WHEN YOU VISUALIZE IT MENTALLY A VERY CIVILIZED, SAFE AND PLEASANT PLACE TO BE. IN FACT, IT'S WHAT DOWNTOWN USED TO BE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. OF COURSE, WHAT WE DID HAVE THEN OR DIDN'T HAVE THEN THAT WE DO HAVE NOW IS AS MANY VEHICLES DOWNTOWN IN THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME. SO I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE COME UP AT ODDS WITH THE PROPOSAL LIKE THIS IS BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE NOT COMPREHENSIVELY DESIGNED ALL THE POINTS OF FOCUS THAT WE NEED TO. I THINK THAT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN HAS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF WHERE THOSE CARS WILL GO. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PARKING OPPORTUNITIES AND DESTINATIONS WITHIN DOWNTOWN, THEN YOU HAVE NOT, IN MY OPINION, REALLY CHANGED THE CONGESTION ISSUE, HAVE NOT REALLY MADE IT MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. SO I THINK THAT WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE'S CARS GO THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DRAW DOWNTOWN IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS. CERTAINLY ONE THAT COULD COME UP IF WE'RE TALKING TO THE STATE AND IN ESSENCE WHAT I THINK THIS VOTE IS ACTUALLY IS TO GO WITH THE GROUP B, NUMBER 2 AND GROUP C, NUMBER 1 AND NUMBER 2 SUGGESTION IN ORDER TO COME BACK AND HAVE A REALISTIC UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT GROUP A WILL REALLY DO. OTHER PLACES SEEM TO FIND WAYS TO CHANNEL PARKING TO THE PERIMETER OF THE DESTINATION IN SOME WAY. AND/OR THEY HAVE A TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT THAT IS MASS TRANSIT THAT FOLKS CAN USE. I DON'T KNOW WHO I'M TALKING TO. PARKING IS AN ISSUE THAT IS NOT ADDRESSED IN ANY OF THESE. PARKING STRUCTURES, HAVING LOCATIONS, DESTINATIONS, INCENTIVES OR ANY OTHER KIND OF PLANNING MECHANISM THAT PREVENTS THE CONGESTION. IF YOU CANNOT MANAGE THE CONGESTION, IF YOU CANNOT MANAGE THE NUMBER OF CARS COMING DOWNTOWN DOWNTOWN, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY TWO-WAYS OR ONE-WAY STREETS YOU HAVE, YOU HAVEN'T SOLVED THE PROBLEM. AND THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE WORK PLAN FOR US SO THAT WE CAN MAKE MEANINGFUL DECISIONS AND NOT ONLY MAKE DECISIONS ON ONE COMPONENT IN A VACUUM THAT WILL BE NEGATED BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT ADDRESSED ALL THE OTHER ISSUES THAT IMPACT. I'LL WRITE THAT DOWN FOR ALL OF YOU.

Mayor Garcia: IS THAT IT? FURTHER DISCUSSION? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE MOTION EVERYBODY? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

Mayor Garcia: OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES. THAT'S ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON THIS AGENDA. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

Mayor Garcia: WE'RE ADJOURNED.

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