Closed Caption Log, Council Worksession
Wednesday, April 3, 2002

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MAYOR GARCIA: GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. GOOD MORNING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE, WILLIE, JUST BECAUSE I SAID GOOD MORNING. WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM YET, BUT I WANT TO ANNOUNCE ONE ITEM SO THAT EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE FOR THAT ONE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT UP. ITEM NUMBER 1, WHICH IS A PRIVATE CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY ON SECTION 551.071 WILL NOT BE TAKEN UP TODAY. THERE'S NO NEED FOR THAT ONE, SO WE WILL NOT BE DOING IT. AND I'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AS SOON AS I GET TWO MORE COUNCILMEMBERS HERE. GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBER GRIFFITH. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHAT I SAY HERE. THINGS ARE LOUD AND I CAN'T TURN THEM OFF. I USED TO HAVE A BUTTON HERE THAT I COULD JUST PRESS. WHEN YOU SEE ME DOING THIS, THAT MEANS I'M MAKING SURE I DON'T SAY SOMETHING I SHOULDN'T SAY. COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ MAY BE OUTSIDE. WHEN HE COMES IN WE CAN START. OKAY. WITH NOW HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL WITH COUNCILMEMBERS WYNN, GRIFFITH, SLUSHER AND GARCIA HERE, SO I'M GOING TO CALL THE WORK SESSION OF THE COUNCIL TO ORDER. IT IS WEDNESDAY, APRIL THE THIRD OF THE YEAR 2002. WE'RE AT 1 TEXAS CENTER, 505 BARTON SPRINGS ROAD, THIRD FLOOR TRAINING ROOM IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, AND WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. I'VE ALREADY ANNOUNCED THAT THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS A PRIVATE CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY, WILL NOT BE — WE WILL NOT BE DOING THAT. AND I THINK THERE'S ONE CHANGE AND CORRECTION. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT ONE? NUMBER 3, IS THAT A BRIEFING?

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT, NUMBER 3 IS NOT A BRIEFING, IT ACTUALLY WILL BE FOR COUNCIL TO POSSIBLY MAKE A CHANGE AND APPROVE. WE JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THE ITEM THAT HAD THE MOST DISCUSSION HAD A CHANCE TO COME BACK HERE FOR YOU TO SEE IT IN FINAL FORM BEFORE WE MOVED FORWARD.

MAYOR GARCIA: OKAY. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL WORK SESSION THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO ANNOUNCE OR REQUEST THAT WE DO THAT? OKAY. THE FIRST BRIEFING IS AN UPDATE FROM THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT — SOLID WASTE SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND HEALTH & HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT REGARDING ODOR COMPLAINTS IN NORTHEAST AUSTIN AROUND THE LANDFILLS LOCATED ON GILES ROAD. WE HAVE SEVERAL FOLKS HERE, THE CITY MANAGER, LISA GORDON, SOLID WASTE SERVICES DEPARTMENT HEAD, WILLIE RHODES. AND FROM HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, DAVID BURY. AND I DON'T KNOW YOU, SO I'M NOT GOING TO ANNOUNCE YOU.

THIS IS JERRY HENDRIX. HE'S HELPING ON THIS.

MAYOR GARCIA: OKAY. CITY MANAGER?

I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO LISA TO DO THE INTRO ON THIS, BUT BASICALLY, COUNCIL, WE'VE BEEN VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONTACTS WE'VE HAD FROM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT THE ODOR ISSUE. WE HAVE ASKED MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY FROM HEALTH TO ENVIRONMENTAL WATERSHED, TO SOLID WASTE SERVICES TO WORK WITH US, AND WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A STATUS REPORT ON WHAT'S HAPPENED, WHAT WE FOUND, WHAT WE THINK CAN HELP SOLVE THE ISSUE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD TO THAT THAT THE STAFF WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW TODAY OF WHAT'S CAUSING THE ODOR, WHAT STEPS HAVE BEEN TAKEN BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN, STEPS BY THE PRIVATE ENTITIES, THE LANDFILL OWNERS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED WITH SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I THINK THAT THIS PRESENTATION WILL ALLOW COUNCIL TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE ISSUES WE'RE DEALING WITH AND WHAT STEPS ARE BEING TAKEN TO ADDRESS THE MATTER. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO —

MAYOR GARCIA: CAN WE MOVE THAT MAP A LITTLE BIT THIS WAY SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT? THAT'S FINE. NO, THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, RYAN.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS WILLIE RHODES AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF SOLID WASTE SERVICES AND I'D LIKE TO DO AN INTRODUCTION ON THE ODOR. WITH ME IS DAVID LURERY AND ALSO IS JERRY HENDRIX OF SOLID WASTE SERVICES STAFF. A LITTLE BACKGROUND CONCERNING THE ODORS, WE'RE GOING TO TALK THIS MORNING ABOUT THE BACKGROUND, LANDFILL 101, INFORM THE COUNCIL ABOUT THE LANDFILL, THE CAUSES, ACTIONS THAT CAN BE TAKEN AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A COUNCIL AND ANSWER SESSION FROM THE COUNCIL IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS PRESENTATION. ON THE BACKGROUND, IN NOVEMBER 2001 WHEN COUNCIL EXTENDED THE WATER AND WASTEWATER'S DEPARTMENT, COUNCIL REQUESTED THE CITY MANAGER TO CONTACT THE TNRCC REGARDING THE ODOR ISSUES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THE WMI, BFI LANDFILL WERE EXPERIENCING. THOSE COMPLAINTS HAVE CONTINUED AND COUNCIL REQUESTED THIS BRIEFING ON THIS ISSUE. A LITTLE LANDFILL 101. THE LANDFILLS ARE LOCATED IN NORTHEAST AUSTIN OFF OF 290 AND ON GILES ROAD. THEY FRONT ON GILES ROAD. THE BFI LANDFILL LOCATED ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER ON GILES ROAD. THEY'RE IN TRAVIS COUNTY, NOT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF AUSTIN. THE BFI LANDFILL IS A TAPE 1 MUNICIPAL LANDFILL ON 352 ACRES WITH 2 SKI ACRES OF LANDFILL AREA. 263. THE WASTE MANAGEMENT LANDFILL IS ALSO TYPE 1 MUNICIPAL LANDFILL ON 290 ACRES WITH 180 ACRES OF LANDFILL AREA. LANDFILLS CAN GENERATE VARIOUS LIQUIDS AND GASES AS A BY PRODUCT OF MATERIALS AND DECOMPOSITION. LANDFILL GAS IS COMPOSED OF SEVERAL CONSTITUENTS, SEVERAL GASES. TRACE GASES. LANDFILLS ARE REQUIRED TO INSTALL SYSTEMS TO PREVENT THESE BY-PRODUCTS ARE BEING PRODUCED INTO THE SURROUNDING AREA. SUBTITLE B LANDFILL CELLS ARE LINED WITH A PROTECTIVE LANDING OR MEMBRANE OVERCOME PACTED CLAY. TYPE POOEUPING IS INSTALLED TO COLLECT THE LIQUID KNOWN AS LECHE, THEN GARBAGE IS PLACED INTO THE FILL UNTIL IT REACHED A FINAL GRADE AND A CAP IS INSTALLED AND THEN A GAS COLLECTION SYSTEM IS INSTALLED TO REMOVE THE GAS. TO DISPOSE OF THE GAS LANDFILLS MAY INSTITUTE RECOVERY SYSTEMS AND MOVE OVER THE GASES. LANDFILLS ARE REQUIRED TO DO MONITORING. ALL SOLID WASTE LANDFILLS MUST CONFORM TO FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATIONS AND OBTAIN REQUIRED PERMITS. LANDFILL OPERATORS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MONITORING AT THE LANDFILL TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH ALL REGULATIONS. REGULATORY COMPLIANCE WITH LANDFILL REGULATION SZ BY THE TNRCC OF TEXAS AND THEREFORE ARE SUBJECT TO INSPECTIONS BY THE TNRCC. THEY ARE ALSO ABLE TO IMPOSE FINES AND PENALTIES FOR VIETION OF RULES AND REGULATIONS BY THE LANDFILL OPERATORS. ONE OF THE POTENTIAL CAUSES FOR LANDFILL ODORS, FIRST I'LL GIVE YOU LANDFILL 101 POTENTIAL PROBLEMS. EXCESSIVE ACCUMULATION OF WATER FROM HEAVY RAINFALL EVENTS CAUSES GARBAGE TO DECOMPOSE MORE RAPIDLY AND GENERATE LARGER QUANTITIES OF GAS. INADEQUATE GAS COLLECTION SYSTEM, ACCUMULATION OR IMPROPER MANAGEMENT OF LANDFILL GAS CONDENSATE AND A LANDFILL GAS COLLECTION SYSTEM. ACCUMULATION AND/OR IMPROPER MANAGEMENT OF LANDFILL LECHE. FAILURE TO REMOVE AACCUMULATED LECHE IN LANDFILL CELLS, CAUSING THE DECOMPOSITION OF GARBAGE AND THE GAS, CHANGES IN THE TYPES OF WASTE ACCEPTED OR FAILURE TO COVER THE WASTE DAILY WITH AN ADEQUATE DEPTH OF SOIL. WITH REGARD TO THE ODOR COMPLAINTS RECEIVED IN THE FALL OF 2001, THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THE BFI AND WASTE MANAGEMENT LANDFILL HAVE EXPERIENCED TREMENDOUS ODOR. THE CITY BELIEVES THAT THE ODORS MAY BE CAUSED IN PART BY THE HEAVY RAINS THAT OCCURRED IN AUGUST OF 2001 OF 9.5 INCHES, NOVEMBER 10 INCHES AND DECEMBER OF FIVE INCHES. THAT INCREASED THE LECHE AND ME THAIN PRODUCTION AT THE LANDFILL. THE INCREASED AMOUNT OF LECHE WAS NOT PROCESSED BY THE OPERATORS AND THE EXCESS OF THAT LED TO THE PRODUCTION OF NOXIOUS ODORS AND METHANE GASES. WHAT ACTION DID THE TNRCC TAKE? THE CITY CONTACTED TNRCC REGARDING THE ODOR COMPLAINTS AND OBTAINED UPDATES CONCERNING THEIR ACTIONS. TNRCC HAD BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE ODORS AROUND THE LANDFILL ON 290 AND GILES ROAD. AND INFORMATION RECEIVED FROM THE TNRCC INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING: IT WAS DIFFICULT TO PINPOINT WHICH LANDFILL ODORS COME FROM SINCE BOTH BFI LANDFILL AND WASTE MANAGEMENT LANDFILL ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO EACH OTHER. WHENEVER AN ODOR COMPLAINT WAS RECEIVED, BOTH LANDFILLS WAS INVESTIGATED. ODOR VIOLATIONS ARE DIFFICULT TO ISSUE BECAUSE THE ODOR MUST BE EXPERIENCED ON A THE COMPLAIN ANTS PROPERTY. IN ORDER FOR THE ODOR TO BE CLASSIFIED AS A NUISANCE BY THE TNRCC IT MUST PREVENT THE NORMAL USE OF THE COMPLAIN ANT'S PROPERTY. THE EXISTENCE OF AN ODOR DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT A VIOLATION HAS OCCURRED. MONITORING WAS INITIATED BY TNRCC ON JANUARY EIGHTH, 2002 AND CONDUCTED AT VARIOUS TIMES, INCLUDING LATE NIGHT AND EARLY MORNING HOURS. THE ODOR APPEARED TO BE BOTH A GAS ORDINARY AND A WASTE ODOR. TNRCC CONDUCTED AN EIGHT P.M. TO EIGHT A.M. ROVING WATCH OF THE AREA AROUND THE LANDFILL FROM MARCH 13TH TO MARCH 20TH. THESE WERE THE ACTIONS THEY WERE DONE BY THE LAND — BY TNRCC CONCERNING THE LANDFILL ODOR ISSUE. AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO DAVID LURERY, DIRECTOR OF THE TRAVIS COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO TALK ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THE MONITORING.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS. AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, THERE HAVE BEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS REGARDING ODORS IN NEIGHBORHOODS CLOSE TO THE LANDFILL, PRIMARILY STARTING IN DECEMBER OF '02. THE COMPLAINTS — THE ODORS COMPLAINED ABOUT APPEAR TO BE RELATED TO HYDROGEN SULFIDE GAS WHICH CAN PRODUCE HEADACHES, FATIGUE AND NAUSEA AS WELL AS IRRITATION OF EYES AND THE MUCUS MEMBRANES. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE SYMPTOMS CAN APPEAR AT LEVELS THAT DO NOT NECESSARILY EXCEED THE REGULATORY LEVELS, SO THAT IS TO SAY THAT PEOPLE CAN EXPERIENCE SOME OF THESE SYMPTOMS AND YET THE LEVEL MAY NOT BE SUCH THAT WOULD CALL FOR A REGULATORY ACTION. THE TNRCC MONITORED THE AMBIENT AIR QUALITY ON SEVERAL DAYS IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND THEIR TOXICOLOGY AND RISK ASSESSMENT SECTION CONCLUDED THAT THERE WERE NO ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS FROM THE AIR DATA THAT THEY REPORTED ON. IN ADDITION THE SUSTAIN ABILITYD OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN REVIEWED THE TNRCC ANALYSIS AND REPORTS AND CONCURS WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS WOULD NOT BE EXPECTED FROM EXPOSURE AS INDICATED IN THE DATA. WE ALSO CONSULTED WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL EPIDEMIOLOGY AND TOXICOLOGY DIVISION, WHICH IS REALLY THE AREA THAT HAS THE EXPERTISE IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THESE ISSUES FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSPECTIVE OR LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, DR. HARRIS AND MEASURE YEEL, OUR MANAGER OF CONSUMER HEALTH MET WITH TDH OFFICIALS AND REVIEWED THE FINDINGS WITH THEM AS WELL. TDH ALSO CONFIRMED BASED ON THE TNRCC DATA THAT THERE WERE NO TOXIC EXPOSURES TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH IN TERMS OF SHORT-TERM HEALTH EFFECTS AND SOME OF THE SYMPTOMS THAT PEOPLE MAY BE EXPERIENCING FROM THESE ODORS SUCH AS EYE IRRITATION, HEADACHES AND NAUSEA FROM LONGER TERM HEALTH EFFECTS AND POTENTIAL DISEASE TRANSMISSION. OUR WORK AGAIN WITH CONSULTATION WITH THE LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY AND BASED ON OUR SURVEILLANCE STAFF HAVING ALSO BEEN OUT IN THE AREA ALONG WITH ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF AND FOLLOWING UP AS I INDICATED WITH THE TNRCC AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HAVE FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF LONG-TERM HEALTH EFFECTS, DISEASE TRANSMISSION OR EVIDENCE OF A PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEM. SO ALTHOUGH IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS CERTAINLY A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE IN TERMS OF QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE SYMPTOMS THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING ARE UNPLEASANT SYMPTOMS, IT DOES NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE OR CONCERN BASED ON THE LEVELS THAT WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR IN TERMS OF THESE MONITORING ACTIVITIES. THANK YOU.

ONE OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S ACTIONS THAT WE UNDERTAKE, THE CITY MET WITH TNRCC FOR AN UPDATE ON THEIR INVESTIGATION AND TNRCC HAVE INFORMED US THAT THEY HAVE NOTIFIED BOTH BFI AND WASTE MANAGEMENT THAT THEY WILL BE TAKING ENFORCEMENT ACTION. TNRCC WILL SEND OUT THAT NOTICE OF ENFORCEMENT TODAY. THE TNRCC ALSO SAYS THAT BFI WASTE MANAGEMENT TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS BASED ON THEIR PERMITS FOR THE GAS COLLECTION AT THEIR LANDFILLS. THE CITY ALSO MET WITH BFI AND WASTE MANAGEMENT AND N.F.L. THEM THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE TAKING THE STEPS NECESSARY UNDER THE PERMIT CONCERNING THE LANDFILL ODORS THAT THEY NEED TO INITIATE MORE MEASURES FOR THE NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT THEY CREATEDDED WITH I AMOPER MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AT THEIR LANDFILLS. AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE FUTURE ACTIONS THAT BOTH BFI AND WASTE T ARE GOING TO BE DOING. THEY ARE GOING TO CONTROL THE WINDBLOWN TRASH, CONTROLLING THE BIRDS, CREATING A NEIGHBORHOOD HOTLINE. TO INSTALL PORTABLE ODOR CONTROL DEVICES. AND AGREE TO DEVELOP A COMPLIANCE UPDATE SYSTEM WITH TRAVIS COUNTY. THE CITY HAS CONTACTED TRAVIS COUNTY IN ORDER TO PART OF THE COMPLIANCE UPDATE SYSTEM. FUTURE ACTIONS BY WASTE NGMENT. WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS AGREED TO FOLLOW ADDITIONAL MEASURES, CONTROLLING WINDBLOWN TRASH, CONTROL OF THE BIRDS, REDUCE THE WORKING SPACE, INSTALLING PORTABLE ODOR CONTROL DEVICES AND USING DIRT AS A DAILY COVER FOR 90 DAYS BEGINNING MARCH 11TH, 2002. BFI AND WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS ALSO AGREED TO IMPROVE THE MUD AND DUST CONTROL AROUND BOTH LANDFILLS AND THEY'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER ON LITTER ABATEMENT AROUND BOTH LANDFILLS. AT THIS TIME, MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION ON THE UPDATE FOR THE LANDFILL ODORS AND WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

MAYOR GARCIA: HOW DO WE CONTROL BIRDS?

ON THE BIRDS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS PROBABLY DO SOME NOISE EFFECTS AND TRY TO SHOE THE BIRDS AWAY. THEY CAN PUT UP SOME TYPE OF FENCING TOO. BUT THEY'VE HIRED SOME PEOPLE TO TRY TO HELP THEM IN THAT AREA.

YOU SAID THAT ON THE ISSUE OF STARTING THE MILT MEUTGATION EFFORTS THAT THEY STARTED IN MARCH?

NO, I SAID WASTE MANAGEMENT BEGAN IN MARCH USING DIRT FOR DAILY COVER. PREVIOUS BEFORE THAT THEY HAD GOTTEN PER ISSION FROM TNRCC TO USE THE DAILY COVER OF A TARP OVER THE WORKING SPACE OF THE LANDFILL. WHAT THEY HAVE DONE SINCE MARCH 11TH IS INSERT DIRT FOR A DAILY COVER.

MAYOR GARCIA: BOTH BFI AND WASTE MANAGEMENT DO THE SAME OR JUST ONE OF THEM?

BFI USES DIRT ALREADY, BUT WASTE MANAGEMENT WAS USING A TARP UNDER THE DAILY COVER, WHICH IS PERMITTED UNDER THE TNRCC REGULATIONS.

MAYOR GARCIA: AND DAVID, HAVE WE RUNNY TEST OZ ANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY HAVE EXPERIENCED SOME MEDICAL PROBLEMS?

NO, SIR, WE'VE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY TESTING AND I'M NOT AWARE OF INDIVIDUALS ACTUALLY GOING TO A PHYSICIAN OR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER IN TERMS OF SYMPTOMS. THERE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS OF NAUSEA, EYE IRRITATION AND SO FORTH. THE ONLY TESTING THAT'S BEEN DONE SO FAR HAS BEEN THE AIR QUALITY TESTING BY TNRCC THAT I'M AWARE OF.

MAYOR GARCIA: GREAT. DID THEY TELL US WHAT THOSE TESTS SHOWED?

YES, THEY HAVE A REPORT SHOWS THE RANGE OF THEIR FINDINGS, WHICH ARE BELOW ANY LEVEL THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN.

MAYOR GARCIA: ARE WE NOTIFYING ANYBODY ABOUT WHETHER THEY HAVE MEDICAL — IF THEY'RE EXPERIENCING MEDICAL PROBLEMS THAT THEY CAN CALL A NUMBER AND GET TESTED OR WHATEVER? OR HAVE WE NOTIFIED PHYSICIANS TO LET US KNOW WHAT THEIR FINDINGS ARE WITH REGARD TO SOME OF THESE COMPLAINTS?

I GUESS I MIGHT ASK DR. HARRIS, THE HEALTH AUTHORITY, IN TERMS OF WHAT, IF ANYTHING, THERE MIGHT BE REPORTABLE IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS ISSUE.

MAYOR GARCIA: YOU CAN SIT OVER HERE OR HERE, DOCTOR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M DR. STEVE HARRIS. I'M THE HEALTH AUTHORITY FOR AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY. REGARDING THE QUESTION YOU RAISED ABOUT TESTING, FORTUNATELY THE EFFECTS OF HYDROGEN SULFIDE ON PEOPLE ARE USUALLY SHORT-TERM KIND OF EFFECTS. SINCE THERE REALLY ARE NO SIGNIFICANT LONG-TERM EFFECTS AND ONCE A PERSON IS REMOVED FROM THE EXPOSURE, THE SYMPTOMS USUALLY CLEAR UP VERY QUICKLY, THERE REALLY IS NO SPECIFIC MEDICAL TESTING THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE INDICATED. NORMALLY BECAUSE TNRCC IS THE AGENCY THAT OBTAINS THE COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE REGULATORY AGENCY, THE CITIZEN COMPLAINTS HAVE ACTUALLY GONE TO THEM, THEY'VE NOT GONE TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. WE RECEIVED SOME COPIES OF SOME OF THESE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE INVESTIGATED TO OUR DISEASE SURVEILLANCE UNIT. AND AGAIN, AS MR. LURERY MENTIONED, SO FAR WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY CALLS FROM REPORTS OF PHYSICIANS IN THE COMMUNITY ALERTING US OF ANY CONCERNS THEY HAVE. AGAIN, PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THERE IS NO SPECIFIC TESTING THAT WE COULD RECOMMEND.

MAYOR GARCIA: THERE'S — THE COUNTY IS ISTTING UP A COUPLE OF COMMITTEES, ONE FOR NORTHEAST AND ONE FOR SOUTHEAST. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE CITY SERVING ON THOSE COMMITTEES OR MONITORING THE WORK OF THOSE COMMITTEES?

NO ONE WILL BE SERVING ON THE COMMITTEES. THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS INVOLVED IN THOSE MEETINGS. THE COUNTY IS PROPOSING A COUNTY SITE ORDINANCE FOR SOLID WASTE FACILITIES. WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS THEY HAVE A DRAFT OUT. THEY CREATE A WORKING COMMITTEE TO GO OUT AND DO THE DRAFT ORDINANCE. THAT COMMITTEE PRESENTED ITS REPORT TO THE COUNTY YESTERDAY. THE COUNTY NOW HAS TAKEN THE COMMITTEE'S WORK AND TRIED TO DRAFT A PROPOSED ORDINANCE FOR THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE ON APRIL THE 9TH. THEN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AFTER APRIL 9TH THERE ARE TWO COMMITTEES FOR THE NORTHEAST AND — THAT THE COUNTY JUDGE HAS SET UP WILL BE WORKING ON THOSE PORTIONS OF THE ORDINANCES.

SLUSHER: I'M SORRY.

MAYOR GARCIA: ONE FINAL QUESTION. APPARENTLY THE COUNTY IS SAYING THAT NO SOLID WASTE FACILITIES EXISTING SHOULD BE GRANDFATHERED OR EXEMPTED FROM THE NEW ORDINANCE. AND BFI AND WASTE MANAGEMENT HAVE ARGUED NOT SO. AND I THINK THEY HAVE ARGUED THAT THEIR EXPANSION VERTICALLY OR INSIDE EXISTING METES AND BOUNDS CAN BE RESTRICTED BY THE NEW ORDINANCE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON TO SEE HOW THAT CAN BE DONE BECAUSE OF THE SEVERITY OF THE SITUATION?

WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH — AS PART OF THE — WE WERE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT WE WERE THERE AT EACH OF THE MEETINGS. SOLID WASTE SERVICES WAS THERE, WATERSHED PROTECTION WAS THERE. LEGAL STAFF WAS THERE. WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE COUNTY CONCERNING ORDINANCES BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE FACILITIES IN THE COUNTY THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS ORDINANCE. SO WE CAN WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT.

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER?

SLUSHER: YES, MR. RHODES, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE ON WHAT BFI IS GOING TO DO? OKAY. AND THEN GO TO THE NEXT ONE. THAT'S FINE. LEAVE IT THERE. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT DIRT ON INSTEAD OF A PLASTIC COVER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND YOU THINK THAT'S A MORE EFFECTIVE WAY OF CONTROLLING THE ODOR? THAT'S THE IDEA BEHIND THAT?

YES.

SLUSHER: AND WHAT DOES THE — WHEN WEEY WERE DOING THE PLASTIC, IS THAT COVERED AT NIGHT AND THEN THEY WOULD TAKE THE PLASTIC OFF AND PUT MORE TRASH ON THERE? IS THAT WHAT WAS HAPPENING?

THEY ACTUALLY WERE PUTTING MORE TRASH OVER THERE, IN THAT AREA.

SLUSHER: OKAY. BUT THEY WERE MOVING IT EVERYDAY AND MORE OF THE OWED WOULD THEN COME OUT AGAIN? IS THAT WHAT WAS GOING ON? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

IF YOU HAVE AN EXPOSED WORKING SPACE AND YOU DON'T COVER IT WITH THE DIRT TO TRY TO KEEP SOME OF THESE ODORS FROM LEAVING THE LAND FILDZ FILLS, YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW THE ODOR TO LEAVE THE LANDFILL ONCE YOU REMOVE THE TARP AWAY FROM IT FOR THE NEXT DAY'S WORK.

SLUSHER: DO YOU THINK THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE ODOR PROBLEM THAT WAS OCCURRING?

I THINK BECAUSE THE ODOR PROBLEMS WERE STILL OCCURRING, I RECOMMENDING THAT THEY NOT DO THIS PRACTICE. THIS PRACTICE WAS DONE PRIOR TO THE ODOR PROBLEMS OCCURRING, SO YOU CAN USE IT — IT'S A METHOD. HOWEVER, THE METHOD DOES — WHEN YOU HAVE A SITUATION AT THE LANDFILLS, I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD STOP THIS METHOD AND THIS IS WHAT WE ASKED THEM TO DO WHILE EXPERIENCING THE ODOR PROBLEMS AROUND THE LANDFILL.

SLUSHER: OKAY. AND THAT GETS THE REDUCED WORKING SPACE, EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THAT MEANS.

IF YOU HAVE AN AREA OF 10 FEET WIDE BY 100 FEET WIDE AND THEN YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO REDUCE IT FROM 10 FEET WIDE TO 50 FEET LONG. THAT MEANS YOU HAVE LESS AREA EXPOSED TO WHERE ODORS CAN COME OUT. SO THAT'S WHAT REDUCING THE WORKING SPACE WOULD DO.

SLUSHER: SO THEY'LL BE DUMPING IT ON TO A SMALLER AREA AND THEN COVERING THAT UP WITH DIRT EVERY NIGHT RATHER THAN PUTTING THE PLASTIC TARP OVER IT.

YES.

SLUSHER: OKAY. AND PORTABLE ODOR CONTROL DEVICES, HOW DOES THAT WORK?

WELL, IF YOU GO INTO ANY BATHROOM FACILITY AND YOU'VE SEEN ON THE WALL —

SLUSHER: MAYBE I SHOULDN'T HAVE ASKED. [ LAUGHTER ] I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT — BASICALLY WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS HOW EFFECTIVE DO YOU THINK THESE MEASURES ARE GOING TO BE AT COMBATTING THE PROBLEMS?

I THINK THE CHIEF METHOD WILL BE THE CONTROLLING OF LECHE THAT THE LANDFILLS HAVE ENCOUNTERED WILL BE THE BEST THING AND IMPROVEMENT OF THE GAS COLLECTION SYSTEM. THAT WILL BE THE TOP TWO THINGS. THESE ADDITIONAL MEASURES ARE JUST BECAUSE WE'RE FEELING THE CRUNCH IN THE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE STILL EXPERIENCING ODORS IN THE AREA. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS DOWN. SO THE FIRST TWO METHODS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WOULD BE THE PRIMARY THINGS THAT WE WOULD ASK THEM TO DO. HOWEVER, THESE ARE ADDITIONAL MEASURES THAT WE THINK WILL IMPROVE THE SITUATION.

SLUSHER: WHAT ARE THE MEASURES THAT DEAL WITH THE LECHE?

THE LECHE IS — WHAT HAPPENS IS WITH LANDFILL YOU'RE PERMITTED TO HAVE ONE FOOT OF WATER ON THE CELL. THEY HAD MORE THAN THAT AT THOSE TWO LANDFILLS. ONCE YOU HAVE THAT, YOU NEED TO REMOVE IT OFF THERE. YOU CONTROL LECHE TYPICALLY FOR CITY OF AUSTIN — AND I DO NOT KNOW HOW THEY CONTROL THEIRS, BUT THE CITY OF AUSTIN WE CONTROL IT BY RECIRCULATING THE LIQUID. BASICALLY WE PUMP IT OFF AND THEN WE PUT IT BACK ON THE LANDFILLS, ON THE CLOSED FILL BECAUSE IN AUSTIN USUALLY YOU CAN GET 32 INCHES OF RAINFALL A YEAR, WHICH ALSO GETS 32 INCHES OF ERATION A YEAR, SO THE WATER WOULD BE EVAPORATED AS YOU WOULD BE CIRCLING ON THE LANDFILL. BUT YOU HAVE TO MONITOR WHAT YOU HAVE THERE. THAT'S WHY WE TALKED ABOUT MONITORING. WE MONITOR HOW MUCH LECHE WE HAVE. AND WE HAVE THE ISSUE AND WE TAKE CARE OF IT. IT'S AN ONGOING ACTION. WHEN THERE'S RAINFALL AT A LANDFILL, SOME OF THE ACTIONS HAVE TO STOP BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET THE EQUIPMENT IN THERE TO DO THE TYPE OF WORK. ONCE THE RAINFALL STOPS, THEN YOU NEED TO GO IN THERE AND CHECK WHAT YOU HAVE AND TRY TO TAKE ACTION FROM IT. WHAT WE FEEL IS THAT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT MAY HAVE CAUSED SOME OF THE PROBLEMS UP THERE, SUCH AS NOT TAKING THE ACTIONS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE RAINFALL TO CONTROL THE LECHE, IS THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM.

SLUSHER: WOULD YOU SAY THAT UNDER THIS THAT THEY'RE MOVING AGRES SIEVELY TO — AGGRESSIVELY TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM AND PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN.

MOVING AGGRESSIVELY TO PREVENT THE PROBLEM. AND THEN WE WILL MONITOR THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING THEIR OPERATION OF THE LANDFILL CORRECTLY AND TNRCC WILL BE LOCKING AT THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE WILL BE DOING AS FAR AS THEIR COURSE OF ACTION AS FAR AS FROM THE LAND FILL. THAT WILL ALL BE PART OF THAT.

LUSHER: OKAY. I APPRECIATE YOU AND THE CITY MANAGER GETTING ON TOP OF THIS ISSUE AND GETTING COMPANIES TO TAKE ACTION. THANK YOU.

LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE THE WORD AGGRESSIVELY MOVING TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM, WHAT ARE THE TIME FRAMES FOR THESE ACTIONS? THESE ARE THE THINGS, THE FIRST TWO THAT CONTROL THE SYSTEMIC OR SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM, AND ITS OTHERS HELP MITIGATE THE SYMPTOMS OF THE PROBLEM. WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO BE IN PLACE?

BFI FOR THE ADDITIONAL GAS WELLS THAT THEY ARE PUTTING IN WENT TO TNRCC IN FEBRUARY AND GOT APPROVAL, THEY GOT IMMEDIATE APPROVAL TO INSTALL THE NEW GAS COLLECTION SYSTEMS. THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF INSTALLING THOSE AND SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, I BELIEVE OR BEFORE THE END OF THIS MONTH. AND — BFI CAN TELL ME IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THE COMPLETION DATE, BUT THEY SHOULD BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE END OF THIS MONTH. WASTE MANAGEMENT WENT TO THE TNRCC AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF INSTALLING, THEY'RE INSTALLING ADDITIONAL GAS WELLS THAT BEGAN TO WORK YESTERDAY AND SHOULD BE COMPLETE — THEY SHE HAD THINK R. THEY SHOULD TAKE ABOUT 45 DAYS TO COMPLETE THEIR WORK.

AND THE MEASURES LIKE CRON WILL TRAR AFERT YEEB WILL DOEL TOOP' ON — CONTROLLING THE TRASH AND USING THE DIRT DAILY, WILL THOSE START IMMEDIATELY? A. THEY STARTED MARCH 11TH.

MAYOR GARCIA: ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF A BALLOT LANGUAGE AND NUMBER ODOR FOR THE CITIZEN INITIATED AUSTIN FAIR ELECTIONS ACT CHARTER AMENDMENT RELATING TO CAMPAIGN FINANCE FOR PLACEMENT ON THE MAY 4TH, 2002 BALLOT. CITY MANAGER?

ONCE AGAIN THIS WAS THE ITEM THAT WE SPENT PROBABLY A GREAT DEAL OF TIME ON TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE LANGUAGE THE WAY EVERYONE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH. THEYANT YOU — WE WANTED YOU TO TAKE ONE MORE LOOK AT IT. JOHN IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND THEN TAKE A LAST VOTE BEFORE WE MOVE ON IT.

AS YOU MAY RECALL, THE PROPONENTS OF THIS WERE ALTOGETHER THRILLED WITH THE BALLOT THING, SO WE WANTED TO GIVE COUNCIL ONE MORE LOOK AT IT. AND IF INDEED THIS IS HOW YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO BE, THEN WE WOULD ASK FOR A VOTE TO READOPT IT AS IS AND THEN WE'LL PROCEED.

MAYOR GARCIA: SO THE PROPOSITION ONE, SHALL THE CITY CHARTER BE AMENDED TO CREATE A PUBLIC FINANCING SYSTEM FOR CAMPAIGNS OF CITY COUNCIL CANNED CATSS THROUGH CITY BLOCK GRANTS AND MACHINING FUNDS WHICH MAY EFFECT REVENUES, TO LIMIT CONTRIBUTIONS TO 200 PER DONOR; AND TO PROVIDE INDEPENDENT THOROUGH TO THE CITY ETHICS REVIEW COMMISSION, INCLUDING SUBPOENA POWER. IS THAT THE WAY THE WORDING IS GOING TO BE? AND THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED 3-21. I GUESS CITY ATTORNEY, THIS IS BASICALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT —

JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL IS HAPPY WITH THIS WORDING. AND IF THE COUNCIL IS, THEN WE'LL JUST ASK FOR YOUR VOTE THAT YOU WANT THE ORDINANCE TO BE THIS WAY.

MAYOR GARCIA: QUESTIONS FOR MR. STEINER?

WYNN: MAYOR? I'LL JUST COMMENT THAT WE — WE STAYED UP LATE LAST NIGHT BECAUSE WE TOOK TIME AND EFFORT AND HAD GOOD ADVICE ON DIFFERENT ELEMENTS ON IT AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND GIVE AND TAKE AT LEAST ON THE DIAS ABOUT THE LANGUAGE. AND IF YOU WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS BALLOT LANGUAGE.

SLUSHER: SECOND.

MAYOR GARCIA: MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER. DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE?

AYE.

MAYOR GARCIA: OPPOSED NO? MOTION CARRIES ON A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO TO ONE WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM ABSENT.

AND JUST ONE LAST THING I'LL ADD AS A NOTE TO THIS, THE NIGHT WE DID ALL THE WORK ON THIS ITEM, THERE WAS A REQUEST THAT WE HAVE COPIES OF THE CITIZEN INITIATIVE, THE FULL LANGUAGE AVAILABLE AT ALL OF THE POLLING SITES, AND WE'LL BE WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT'S POSSIBLE.

MAYOR GARCIA: LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSS A DIVISION OF THE CITY INTO EIGHT COUNCIL DISTRICTS FOR THE ELECTION OF COUNCILMEMBERS IN THE EVENT THAT THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT FOR A CITY COUNCIL MADE UP OF EIGHT COUNCILMEMBERS ELECTED FROM SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICT, TWO COUNCILMEMBERS LEKTED FROM THE CITY AT LARGE AND A MAYOR ELECTED FROM THE CITY AT LARGE IS ADOPTED BY THE VOTERS. AND COUNCIL, YOU HAVE A YELLOW CODED SHEET THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS, REPORT TO COUNCIL, COMMENTS RECEIVED ON SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICT MAPS. AND WE HAVE MR. STEINER HERE AND I GUESS MR. ROBINSON SOMEWHERE.

HE'S HERE. THIS IS THE MAP HERE AND HERE. AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO MAPS IS THAT THIS ONE HAS AN OVERLAY OF NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREAS AND THAT ONE DOESN'T, BUT THEY'RE THE SAME. THESE ARE THE MAPS THAT WE HAVE BEEN PRESENTING AT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN HOLDING. AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE MAP THAT WE SHOWED TO THE COUNCIL ON MARCH THE 21ST. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD — THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAD DONE AN AMAZING JOB IN MY ESTIMATION OF PRODUCING A LARGE NUMBER OF MAPS FOR DIFFERENT MEMBER NUMBER SCENARIOS, FROM FOUR UP TO 14. AND WHEN COUNCIL DECIDED ON EIGHT AS THE NUMBER OF DISTRICTS, WE HAD TO TAKE THAT EIGHT-MEMBER MAP AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF FINE TUNING ON IT TO RATCHET SOME OF THE VARIANTS DOWN A BIT. THIS ONE THE MAPS THAT WE'RE WORKING FROM HAS REDUCED THE NUMBER OF SPLIT NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREAS FROM 12 TO THREE. THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF BARTON HILLS, BOLTON AND TRAVIS HEIGHTS HAVE BEEN PUT TOGETHER. DISTRICT 6 HAVE BEEN MADE MORE COMPACT AS HAVE DISTRICTS 3 AND 5. AND THE TOTAL POPULATION VARIANCE HAS BEEN REDUCED FROM 10.7 DOWN TO 7.3. SO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT UNDER 10 PERCENT. SO WE NEEDED TO RATCHET DOWN THAT TOTAL POPULATION VARIANCE BETWEEN THE MOST POPULATED DISTRICT AND THE LEAST POPULATED. THE MOST POP LATED IS 82,070. AND SO WE NEED TO KEEP IT UNDER 82,000 PEOPLE, WHICH THIS MAP ACCOMPLISHES. THE AVERAGE POPULATION VARIANCE HAS BEEN REDUCED FROM 5.5% TO 1.9%. AND DEVIATIONS BETWEEN DISTRICTS WITH RESPECT TO VOTING AGE POPULATION HAVE ALSO BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED. SO THIS MAP DOES A MUCH BETTER JOB NOW OF KEEPING ALL THE DISTRICTS THE SAME SIZE AND IT HAS INCREASED THE COMPACTNESS OF THE DISTRICT SOMEWHAT. SO THIS IS THE MAP THAT STAFF SUGGESTS THAT WE WORK FROM AND IT'S THE ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN USING AS THE WORKING MAP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HELD SO FAR.

MAYOR GARCIA: I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, SIR?

MAYOR GARCIA: I GUESS FOR MR. ROBINSON. IN THE TESTIMONY, MR. MARK BOWDEN TALKED ABOUT THAT AREA JUST EAST OF I-35, WHICH I GUESS IS THE MAP HE WILLWOOD AREA, DELLWOOD AREA, THAT THAT — I GUESS IN DISTRICT 7 AS OPPOSED TO DISTRICT 5 BECAUSE OF THE, I GUESS, SEPARATION OF THAT PART BY I-35 FROM WHAT IS WEST OF THERE.

YES, MAYOR, THAT'S CORRECT. AND THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF IF WE FOLLOW NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA BOUNDARIES, THAT LITTLE PIECE OF DELLWOOD WOULD STAY WITH GREATER UPPER BOGGY CREEK, BUT IT ALSO IS A SPLIT PRECINCT, SO THAT LITTLE POCKET OF HOMES JUST NORTH OF AIRPORT BOULEVARD IS WITHIN THE PRECINCT THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL OF MUELLER AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS NORTH. AND I THINK THIS IS ALSO AN EXAMPLE OF THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE COULD CHANGE WITHOUT A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC PROFILE.

MAYOR GARCIA: AND I GUESS WEST OF I-35 WOULD BE KIND OF LIKE THE EDGE OF HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD? THE EASTERN BOUNDARIES OF HYDE PARK IS WHAT'S —

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IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREAS IS A PLANNING AREA KNOWN AS HANCOCK.

MAYOR GARCIA: HANCOCK, OKAY.

ONE OVERLAY THAT WE HAVE JUST MADE WITH RESPECT TO THIS MAP IS AN OVERLAY OF THE COUNTY ELECTION PRECINCT. AND WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO SEE THAT WE HAVE VERY FEW SPLITS. ULTIMATELY THE COUNTY IS SUPPOSED TO CONFORM ITS ELECTION PRECINCTS TO A CITY'S WARDS. AND THESE ARE REFERRED TO — SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICT DISTRICTS ARE REFERRED TO IN AS WARDS. BUT THEY ONLY DO THAT EVERY TWO YEARS. SO IN THE MEANTIME OUR HOPE IS TO HAVE AS FEW SPLITS AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY'RE A PAIN TO ADMINISTER. SO WE MAY, NOW THAT WE'VE DONE AN OVERLAY OF THE COUNTY ELECTION PRECINCT, WE MAY WANT TO GO BACK AND SEE IF WE CAN REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SPLITS DOWN TO A BARE MINIMUM. WE'VE ONLY GOT HALF A DAZ DOZEN AS IT IS, AND WE CAN PROBABLY GET IT DOWN TO TWO OR THREE. SO WE MAY DO SOME FURTHER TWEAKING ON THE BOUNDARIES TO GET RID OF THOSE SPLIT ELECTION PRESINGS. BUT — PRECINCTS, BUT OF COURSE THIS MAP IS FOR DISCUSSION AND WE ARE AT COUNCIL'S DISPOSAL TO DO WITH IT AS YOU WILL.

MAYOR GARCIA: IS THE CRITERIA USED BY JUSTICE TOTAL POPULATION? AND WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT VARIATIONS OF 10% ON EITHER SIDE OF THE AVERAGE?

RIGHT. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE — NOT SO MUCH JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CONCERN AS EQUAL PROTECTION CONCERN UNDER THE ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE PRINCIPLE. AND THAT IS BASED ON TOTAL POPULATION.

MAYOR GARCIA: BECAUSE THE SCHEDULE THAT Y'ALL PREPARED, WHEN IT GOES TO VOTING AGE BREAKOUTS, 5 IS 16.9% ABOVE THAT AVERAGE AND 1 IS 11.4 BELOW.

AND THAT, SIR, IS DUE TO DEMOGRAPHIC DIFFERENCES IN THE DISTRICTS. FOR EXAMPLE, DISTRICT NUMBER 3 HAS A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN, WHEREAS DISTRICT 5 HAS U.T. IN IT AND IT HAS A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF SINGLE ADULTS. SO THE DIFFERENCES THERE ARE ARTIFACTS OF WHO LIVES IN THESE DISTRICTS. OBVIOUSLY IN A DISTRICT WITH A NUMBER OF LARGE FAMILIES YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A HIGHER — MORE KIDS AND THEREFORE A DIFFERENCE IN THE VOTING AGE POPULATION. AND AN AREA THAT INCLUDES BOTH DOWNTOWN WHERE A LOT OF YOUNGER SINGLE ADULTS LIVE AND THE UNIVERSITY WHERE YOU HAVE DORMITORIES FULL OF VOTING AGE SINGLE ADULTS, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A SKEWING OF THE VOTING AGE POPULATION.

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER WYNN?

WYNN: MR. ROBINSON, THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE UPPER BOGGY CREEK PIECE OF WARD 5 BEING EAST OF I-35, DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY THAT BY PLACING — AS AN EXAMPLE, BY PLACING UPPER BOGGY CREEK IN WARD NUMBER 1, IT DOESN'T SKEW THE — YOUR TRYING TO GET THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN PERCENTAGE THERE.

IT'S THAT LITTLE POCKET OF DELL WOOD, THOSE TWO OR THREE BLOCKS THAT ARE IN BETWEEN AIRPORT BOULEVARD AND THE OLD AIRPORT. WHICH IS KIND OF A COLORFUL NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE YEARS FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, BUT THAT PARTICULAR POCKET IS WHAT I MEANT. AND AGAIN, IT WOULD CAUSE US TO SPLIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREAS, BUT WOULD BRING US IN LINE WITH THE 2002 PRECINCTS. BUT I MISSPOKE IF I SAID THAT WE COULD MOVE THE ENTIRE AREA, BECAUSE THE ENTIRE AREA WOULD NOT WORK.

WYNN: AND AGAIN FOR THE CITIZENS' INFORMATION, THE REASON WHY YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, A CHUNK OF AREA EAST OF I-35 NOT IN WARD 1 WAS BECAUSE PERHAPS THE FIRST GOAL OF YOUR EXERCISE IS TO MAXIMIZE THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTING STRENGTH OF WARD NUMBER 1. AND SO WHEREAS OTHERWISE SOME PARTS OF TOWN HAVE MORE OBVIOUS BOUNDARIES, LIKE 360 OR BEN WHITE OR OTHERS. I-35 SEEMS TO BE AN OBVIOUS ONE, BUT APPROPRIATELY SO I BELIEVE OUR FIRST GOAL IN THIS EXERCISE WAS TO MAKE SURE WE, YOU KNOW, HANDLED MINORITY VOTING STRENGTHS AS BEST WE CAN. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY DEFENDABLE POSITION FOR US TO NOT HAVE — STO HAVE UPPER — TO HAVE UPPER BOGGY CREEK, EVEN THOUGH IT'S EAST OF I-35, HAVE IT IN ONE OF THE DISTRICTS THAT WILL BE WEST OF I-35.

SLUSHER: MAYOR?

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER.

SLUSHER: YEAH, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB, ESPECIALLY ON THE NUMBERS PULLED TOGETHER. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED, THOUGH, IN THE SOUTH, AND I MENTIONED THIS I THINK AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING BEFORE WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, THE SOUTH CENTRAL BEING —E SOUTH CENTRAL BEING WITH THE NORTH OF THE RIVER. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO WITH A MAP WHERE THE SOUTH AUSTIN PRECINCTS ARE NOW IN DISTRICT 5, COME OUT IN THEIR OWN DISTRICT AND MAYBE TAKE A PART OF 2 — YOU HAVE 2 AND PERHAPS A PART OF 3 AND 4 AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GET OUT OF THAT AND STILL KEEP THE HIGH HISPANIC AVERAGE IN 3. IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I'LL SKETCH OUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AND Y'ALL CAN RUN THE NUMBERS ON IT.

IF I MAY, THAT IS WHERE WE PROBABLY HAVE BEEN MOST CHALLENGED, IN THAT PART OF TOWN TO TRY TO BALANCE THE PHILOSOPHY OF MAXIMIZING MINORITY DISTRICTS AND TRYING TO KEEP COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST TOGETHER. THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING AT WORK THAT I CALL THE COLORADO RIVER EFFECT. BASICALLY THERE ARE MORE AUSTINITES NORTH OF THE RIVER THAN THERE ARE SOUTH OF THE RIVER, AND WE'RE SORT OF IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU COULD CREATE THREE LARGE DISTRICTS IN SOUTH AUSTIN AND PUT ALL OF SOUTH AUSTIN BACK TOGETHER, BUT YOU WOULD SACRIFICE THE TWO MAJORITY LATINO DISTRICTS IN DOING THAT. WE HAD COME UP WITH AN INTERIM SCENARIO THAT KEPT THE RIVER AS A BOUNDARY BETWEEN 5 AND WHAT WAS DISTRICT 4. WHAT THAT THEN LEADS US TO DO — AND AGAIN, I CAN SHARE THIS IN GREATER DETAIL IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT — WE HAD TO CREATE WHAT CAME TO BE KNOWN AS THE PAN SUBURBAN DISTRICT THAT STRETCHED ALL THE WAY FROM CIRCLE C ACROSS THE RIVER, PICKING UP THE SUBDIVISIONS ON EITHER SIDE OF 2222 AND INCLUDING WILLIAMSON COUNTY. SO — BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRAINTS OF DISTRICT BALANCE, WE REALLY HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED DOWN THERE. AND I THINK THAT THIS MAP IS CERTAINLY A GIANT STEP TOWARD A BETTER PROP. I THINK WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANOTHER HARD LOOK AT THAT.

SLUSHER: ONE THING THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THAT IS WE'VE GOT THE ORIGINAL AREA IN THE CITY AND THE ORIGINAL AREA OF SOUTH AUSTIN ALL LUMPED INTO ONE DISTRICT. AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO MAKE THAT TWO, IF POSSIBLE. BUT ANYWAY, I'LL — LET ME SKETCH SOMETHING OUT AND I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU AND LET YOU RUN THE NUMBERS. YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT. I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU'RE FACE THRG AND I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE SAME THING MYSELF.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR GARCIA: COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS?

THOMAS: YEAH. COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE UPPER BOGGY CREEK? AND IF YOU WOULD GIVE THAT TO WARREN CUMMINGS — THE CENTERS ARE 3.7 AFRICAN-AMERICAN — HOW MUCH OF THAT WOULD ENHANCE 5 SOME WOULD IT BE — ENHANCE 5? WOULD IT BE ALL OF THE 3.7?

COUNCILMEMBER, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I THINK THAT THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 3100 FOLKS WITHIN UPPER BOGGY CREEK. IF WE MOVED THAT INTO DISTRICT 1 — AND WE CAN RUN THIS AND IT WON'T TAKE LONG GIVEN ACCESS TO THE DATA — I THINK THAT WE WOULD SEE THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN SHARE OF DISTRICT 1 DROP BELOW 35%, MAYBE SOMEWHERE IN THE BALLPARK OF 33 OR 34%. BUT WE CAN RUN THAT AND HAVE THAT TO YOU. AND AT THIS POINT THIS IS WHERE WE CAN BEGIN TO CHANGE THE MAP, BUT WELCOME AWAY FROM THAT MAXIMIZED SHARE.

THOMAS: JUST RUN THE NUMBERS FOR ME, PLEASE. THANK YOU, SIR.

MAYOR GARCIA: FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?

ALVAREZ: QUESTION, MAYOR. UNDER THIS NEW SCENARIO, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE WE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TOOK THE VOTE ON THE 8-2-1 SYSTEM, THEN THERE WERE TWO MAJORITY HISPANIC DISTRICTS AND AN IMPACT DISTRICT, WHICH IN THIS CASE BECOMES DISTRICT 8. IT MAY HAVE BEEN DISTRICT 8 LAST TIME. BUT WHAT IS THE COMPARISON THERE? IT LOOKS PRETTY SIMILAR LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

YES, SIR. THERE WAS NO DIMINUTION IN THE OVERALL STRENGTH OF THOSE LATINO DISTRICTS, MAYBE BY HALF A POINT. BUT DEMOGRAPHICALLY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THAT SAME FOUR SET OF MINORITY DISTRICTS, SO THAT PART OF THE PROFILE IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE OTHER MAP.

ALVAREZ: AND I GUESS I'LL JUST GO BACK AND REACQUAINT MYSELF.

BUT IF THAT DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION, PLEASE TELL ME. I'VE GOT A CHART THAT —

ALVAREZ: BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM THAT DISTRICT 5 — OR MAYBE DISTRICT OF CERTAINLY CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, WHICH I THINK THEN IT STARTED THAT DISTRICT 7 CHANGED, WHICH I HAD SEEN IT CHANGES 8, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING IT CHANGED THE NUMBERS MUCH AT ALL. I REMEMBER NUMBER OF WASN'T QUITE CONFIGURED THE SAME WAY IT IS THERE.

WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE THE CHANGES DIRECTED TO US BY COUNCIL. AND FOR THE MOST PART KEEP THE STRENGTH OF THE MINORITY DISTRICTS SIMILAR.

A COUPLE OF POINTS?

ALVAREZ: THANK YOU.

MAYOR GARCIA: FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?

WYNN: MAYOR? JUST A COMMENT THAT I ATTENDED ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS OR PRESENTATIONS MONDAY NIGHT AND ANOTHER ONE AGAIN LAST NIGHT. AND I WILL SAY THEY'VE BEEN LIGHTLY ATTENDED. YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY AS MORE INFORMATION GETS OUT THERE, THERE WILL BE MORE ATTENDANCE, BUT ALSO LISTENING TO THE FOLKS WHO HAVE ATTENDED, IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S STARTING TO SHAPE UP WHERE THE PROBLEM IS YOU'RE EITHER FOR A SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICT OR A MIXED SYSTEM OR YOU'RE FOR JUST A STRAIGHT AT LARGE SYSTEM. AND THERE'S MORE OF SORT OF A PHILOSOPHICAL DEBATE THAN NECESSARILY A MAP DRAWING DEBATE. SO, YOU KNOW, I DO ENCOURAGE THE CITIZENS TO GIVE US AS MANY COMMENTS AS WE CAN. WE HAVE A NUMBER ELECTRONICALLY OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS AND WE ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO GIVE US WHATEVER COMMENTS THEY HAVE ABOUT THE MAP, ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF WHETHER OR NOT THEYAVE THE MAP PRIOR TO EARLY VOTING. AND JUST HEAR FOLKS' COMMENTS EITHER WAY ON IT.

MAYOR GARCIA: AND I THINK SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE IN THE DOCUMENT ADDRESS THAT. SOME OF THEM SAY WE OUGHT TO HAVE SINGLE DISTRICTS AND SOME SAY I'M HAPPY WITH THE CURRENT SITUATION AND WITH A FREE COUNCIL. LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

THOMAS: JUST A COMMENT TO COMMEND STAFF FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, AT LEAST THE CITIZENS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. ALL WE CAN DO IS PUT IN INPUT. THANK YOU.

MAYOR GARCIA: THERE'S SOME CONCERN THAT WE'RE MOVING TOO FAST, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BIG CONCERN. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS IS EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF PUTTING THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE FOR THE PEOPLE TO LOOK AT. AND THEY CAN DECIDE. THE CHARTER OF THE CITY IS THE CITIZENS' DOCUMENT. CITY MANAGER? [ONE MOMENT, PLEASE, WHILE CAPTIONERSATZENO CARRIERRINGCONNECT 1200?

THIS IS WEDNESDAY APRIL THE 3RD.

FUTRELL: YES, JOHN, IT IS WEDNESDAY APRIL THE 3RD.

WE ARE GOING TO BE PLAYING SATURDAY AND SUNDAY —

ALL DAYS SEEM TO BE THE SAME TO ME LATELY. TONIGHT WILL BE AT BIEW WOE HIGH SCHOOL — BOWIE HIGH SCHOOL, SLAUGHTER LANE, FROM 7:00 TO 8:30.

MAYOR GARCIA: WHAT WE COULD SAY TO THE BOWIE PEOPLE IS I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY IN THAT AREA THAT SERVES ON THE CURRENT COUNCIL, SO THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS, SEEING HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.

STEINER: TOMORROW, OF COURSE, A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH WOULD — WHICH WILL BE HELD AT LCRA. ON MONDAY, APRIL 8TH, WE WILL HAVE A MEETING AT CROCKETT HIGH SCHOOL CAFETERIA, 5601 MANCHACA ROAD FROM 7:00 TO 8:30 P.M.

ALVAREZ: IS THAT DISTRICT 3, COULD YOU ANNOUNCE WHICH DISTRICT.

STEINER: THAT WOULD BE WHAT'S PROPOSED ON THIS MAP AS DISTRICT 3. THE ONE TONIGHT WILL BE IN WHAT WOULD BE PROPOSED DISTRICT 4. THEN ALSO ON MONDAY, APRIL 8TH, WE WILL HAVE ONE AT MONTOPOLIS RECREATION CENTER SENIOR ROOM, 1200 MONTOPOLIS, FROM 7:30 TO 9:00. AND THAT ONE WILL BE —

MAYOR GARCIA: DISTRICT 2.

STEINER: IF THERE'S — OKAY. ON — WILL THAT BE AT WALLER CREEK CENTER?

MAYOR GARCIA: PROPOSED DISTRICT 2.

STEINER:

STEINER: ON MONDAY MORNING, WE WILL HAVE A STAKEHOLDERS MEETING AT WALLER CREEK CENTER, ROOM 105 AT 11:00 FOR ANY INTERESTED COMMUNITY GROUPS WHO WANT TO COME AND GIVE US FEEDBACK. SO THAT'S THREE OPPORTUNITIES ON MONDAY. ONE IN THE MORNING AND TWO IN THE EVENING. TUESDAY, APRIL 9TH, WE WILL HAVE A MEETING AT LANIER HIGH SCHOOL CAFETERIA, 1201 PEYTON GIN ROAD FROM 7:30 TO 9:00 P.M. THAT WOULD BE IN DISTRICT 8. THEN ALSO ON TUESDAY, AT THE MILLENNIUM YOUTH ENTERTAINMENT COMPLEX THEATER, 1156 HARGRAVE STREET FROM 6:30 TO 8:00, THAT WOULD BE IN PROPOSED DISTRICT 1. THEN AGAIN, YOU WILL BE HEARING IT ON — HEARING ABOUT THIS AT THE WEDNESDAY, APRIL 10TH WORK SESSION. AND ALSO AT THE THURSDAY, APRIL 11TH COUNCIL MEETING. THE — SO FAR, WE HAVE ALREADY DONE A MEETING AT THE THOMPSON CONFERENCE CENTER, AT U.T. AND — IN DISTRICT 5 AND MURCHISON MIDDLE SCHOOL CAFETERIA IN DISTRICT 6. LAST NIGHT WE HAD A MEETING IN DISTRICT 7 AT THE SPICEWOOD SPRINGS BRANCH LIBRARY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR. WHAT WE HAVE GOT ON THE AGENDA TO DO. WITH RESPECT TO PUBLIC MEETINGS. PEOPLE ALSO CAN — CAN GIVE US THEIR COMMENTS BY E-MAIL. WE HAVE A PHONE LINE OPEN, WHICH CAN RECORD PEOPLE'S COMMENTS, IT WILL BE TRANSCRIBED AND GIVEN TO THE COUNCIL. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND SO — SO THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN — CAN GET COMMENTS INTO THE CITY. THE MAPS ARE ALSO ON THE — AVAILABLE ON THE — ON THE MAP. AND THE SCHEDULE OF ALL OF THESE MEETINGS ARE ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, BOTH IN ENGLISH AND IN SPANISH.

FUTRELL: THE E-MAIL ADDRESS TO GIVE COMMENTS IS THROUGH THE CITY WEBSITE, HAS A LINK ON THE CITY WEBSITE, I BELIEVE.

STEINER: IT DOES.

FUTRELL: DO WE HAVE THE PHONE NUMBER, DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE PHONE NUMBER TO CALL, 974-9303. I'M DOING THIS — LIKE A COURT REPORTER. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR E-MAIL ADDRESS BEING PIO.CITYPIO — THAT MOVED A LITTLE TOO FAST. @CI.TX.US.

TELL YOU WHAT, ROSY, STEP UP, GIVE THE WHOLE E-MAIL ADDRESS ALL IN ONE PIECE.

OKAY. THE E-MAIL IT'S IS PIO.CITYPIO@CI.AUSTIN.TX.US. AND THE PHONE NUMBER IS 974, 93003.

ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP IN SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS IS A FEAR THAT THE — THAT THE PARTICULAR DISTRICT REPRESENTATION WILL BE INTERESTED ONLY IN THAT — IN THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT AND NOT IN THE REST OF THE CITY. WHAT I'M THINKING THAT HAPPENED SPECIALLY WITH THE NEW MAP, WHERE IT'S A LITTLE MORE PRECISE AS TO INCLUDING I THINK SOME AREAS THAT FEEL LIKE THEY ARE TOGETHER, WOULD BE DISCOMBUBERATED, FOR LACK OF A SEPARATE WORD, MAY GENERATE AN ENTIRELY NEW WAY FOR POLITICAL OR COMMUNITY ISSUES TO BE DISCUSSED SINCE IT IS SO — SO BLOCKY AS OPPOSED TO LINEAR OR LATERAL. SORT OF LIKE THE CENTRAL CORRIDOR WHICH IS GOING TO GO ACROSS SEVERAL DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. AND THOSE ISSUES ISSUES WOULD BE THE SAME EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT IN THE SAME DISTRICTS. I'M STARTING TO SEE THE PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS OF THIS RELATIVE TO CITY POLITICS AND COMMUNITY. ACTUALLY IT'S NOT LOOKING AS BAD AS I THOUGHT IT WOULD. I THINK THINGS ARE GOING TO BE INVENTED.

MAYOR GARCIA: THERE'S BEEN A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO — TO PEOPLE THAT DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH AND THEIR ACCESS TO THE INTERNET OR E-MAIL AND — FOR ANYBODY WHO IS OUT THERE LISTENING, I'M GOING TO SPEAK A FEW WORDS IN SPANISH TO GIVE YOU THE CONSTRUCTIONS AND COUNCILMEMBER ALVAREZ, IF I — IF I DON'T SAY IT RIGHT, PLEASE CORRECT ME. [ LAUGHTER ]. [SPEAKING IN SPANISH]

MAYOR GARCIA: ANY ORE COMMENTS, COUNCILMEMBER, DID I MEET THE LITMUS TEST ON THAT ONE. SO-SO.

ALVAREZ: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY AT MYSELF EITHER, I DON'T KNOW HOW — I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THAT LITTLE SYMBOL IN SPANISH. @. THE ELECTRONIC E-MAIL.

MAYOR GARCIA: IN SPANISH? [SPEAKING IN SPANISH]

MAYOR GARCIA: OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE TO COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SO MOVE, MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SLUSHER, SECONDED BY ME, ALL THOSE IF FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

MAYOR GARCIA: I MAY ALSO ANNOUNCE ON THE 11TH OF APRIL WE WILL BE MEETING AT CONLEY-GUERRERO, THAT'S WHEN WE WILL BE ACTING ON THE ACTION ITEMS.

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