Closed Caption Log, Council Worksession
Wednesday, 07/10/02

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Due to lack of public posting, the formal worksession did not take place. However, staff was asked to make a brief presentation on the Downtown Austin Mobility plan to a few Council Members; no quorum of the Council was present.

MAYOR GARCIA: GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. I HAVE GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS. AND THEY'RE THE SAME. WE DID NOT POST THIS MEETING PROPERLY, SO WE WILL NOT -- THE GOOD NEWS IS WE WILL NOT BE MEETING. THE BAD NEWS IS THAT WE WILL NOT BE MEETING. SO WE'LL COME BACK AS SOON AS THE SCHEDULE ALLOWS SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT THIS. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT SUBJECT, DOWNTOWN ACCESS AND MOBILITY. SO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS NOT AN ITEM THAT REQUIRES ACTION, THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS INDICATED TO US THAT WE CANNOT HAVE THE MEETING, SO WE WILL SEE YOU TOMORROW AND ON THIS ISSUE AS SOON AS WE CAN POST IT. CITY MANAGER, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE IT NEXT WEEK.

WE'LL BRING IT BACK NEXT WEEK.

MAYOR GARCIA: AUSTAN, IS THAT OKAY?

WYNN: MAYOR, IF I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE IN THE LAW, AS SOON AS WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, COULD WE STILL HAVE THE MEETING? IF THERE'S THREE OF US AND NOT FOUR, JUST STAFF IS SET UP. MY HUNCH IS A FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS ARE PROBABLY WATCHING CHANNEL 6. SO AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM CAN WE HAVE THE MEETING?

MAYOR GARCIA: I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T POST IT THAT WE CAN'T HAVE IT, BUT LET THE CITY MANAGER ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

FUTRELL: CITY ATTORNEY.

IT WOULD JUST BE -- IF WE HAVE LESS THAN A QUORUM HEARING INFORMATION, IT WOULD JUST BE THREE INDIVIDUALS HEARING INFORMATION. IT WOULDN'T BE IN THE MEETING. SO IT'S JUST COUNCILMEMBER WYNN, COUNCILMEMBER DUNKERLEY AND THE MAYOR RECEIVING INFORMATION. ONCE THE QUORUM ARRIVES, THOUGH, THAT'S A MEETING AND WE WOULD HAVE TO DISBAND. OR REDUCE TO A NUMBER LESS THAN A QUORUM.

MAYOR GARCIA: SEND OUT A MESSAGE TO ALL THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS NOT TO SHOW UP, OKAY, SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE THIS NON-MEETING MEETING. AND ACTUALLY, YOU WILL BE DOWN TO TWO BECAUSE I HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE AT 11:00 O'CLOCK -- ACTUALLY, AT 10:45 AT LCRA ON THE ISSUE OF SCRUBBERS FOR THE FAYETTE POWER PROJECT, SO I WILL BE LEAVING IN ABOUT 20 TO 25 MINUTES. SO WE MAY NOT HAVE A QUORUM, EVEN IF SOMEBODY ELSE SHOWS UP. OKAY. SO I'M NOT GOING TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE'RE HAVING A MEETING OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. WE'RE JUST GOING TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO YOU GUYS. AND THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO HAVE KEEN INTEREST IN DOWNTOWN MOBILITY, AND THEY'RE HERE. ONE OF THEM, MR. CHARLIE BETS FROM DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE. MS. GORDON?

THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, TODAY WE'RE HERE TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE FINDINGS FROM OUR MIDTERM TRANSPORTATION PROJECT. AND THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN A UNIQUE PROJECT. IT'S ASKED US TO LOOK AT SEVERAL STUDIES, OUR GREAT STREET STUDY, OUR MOBILITY IN THE CITY, OUR EXISTING STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS PRIORITIZE THE DIFFERENT TRANSPORTATION MODES WE HAVE IN TERMS OF PEDESTRIAN, BICYCLE, CARS, FUTURE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS THAT MIGHT OCCUR, AND LOOK AT OUR WHOLE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. I THINK IT'S BEEN VERY CHALLENGING FOR THE STAFF IN TERMS OF TRYING TO WEIGH THOSE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES AND CRITERIA AS WELL AS DEAL WITH PARKING AND MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS WE DO ALLOW US TO HAVE A VIABLE DOWNTOWN. SO I THINK THE INFORMATION YOU'LL RECEIVE IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE. THERE ARE STILL SOME AREAS WHERE WE THINK WE NEED ADDITIONAL STUDY, BUT I THINK THE STAFF HAS DONE A GOOD JOB TRYING TO INTEGRATE ALL THE DIFFERENT STUDIES WE'VE HAD AND TO BALANCE OUT THESE PRIORITIES SO THAT WE CAN BRING YOU RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THEY WILL BE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CARRY SOME DIFFERENCES OF OPINION IN OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF THE BENEFITS AND THE COST OF IMPLEMENTING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO AUSTAN LIBRACH, OUR DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION, PLANNING AND SUSTAIN ABILITY AND HE'LL INTRODUCE THE STAFF THAT'S HERE TODAY TO PRESENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LISA. GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. AGAIN, MY NAME IS AUSTAN LIBRACH. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION, PLANNING AND SUSTAIN ABILITY. AND WITH ME THIS MORNING I HAVE THREE OTHER STAFF MEMBERS. FIRST TO MY LEFT IS GORDON DURR, WHICH IS A TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER ON OUR STAFF WHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THEN JANA McCAN, WHO IS OUR URBAN DESIGN OFFICER. AND THEN WE HAVE JAN HILTON WHO IS HERE TO HELP WITH SOME DOWNTOWN ISSUES THAT THAT DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON. WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO FIRST TELL YOU WHAT WE'VE HANDED OUT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF MATERIALS, MOST OF WHICH I THINK YOU'LL SEE AGAIN NEXT WEEK IF THIS COMES TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION OR WHENEVER NEXT YOU SEE IT. FIRST IS A COPY OF THE SLIDE THAT I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH. AND THAT'S ABOUT 10 PAGES OF MATERIAL, 14 PAGES. AND SECOND YOU SHOULD HAVE A COLOR COPY OF A MAP THAT DEPICTS EACH OF THE 15 RECOMMENDATIONS WE'RE MAKING TO YOU TODAY FOR CONSIDERATION ALL ON ONE MAP. THIRD IS A FIRST DRAFT OF THE RESOLUTION THAT WILL APPEAR WITH THE RCA IN YOUR PACKET IN FINAL FORM NEXT WEEK, HOPEFULLY NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN YOU WILL SEE TODAY. BUT IT IS EACH OF THE THINGS WE'RE SUGGESTING FOR YOUR APPROVAL. THE NEXT IS A ONE-PAGE CHART SHOWING POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCES FOR EACH OF THE 15 RECOMMENDATIONS. THESE ARE NOT NECESSARILY TIED DOWN AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE ROUGH AT THIS STAGE IN SOME CASES BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW FROM A CONCEPTUAL STANDPOINT, WHAT WE THINK THESE WILL COST AND WHAT WE THINK THERE IS A POSSIBILITY FOR FUNDING. OBVIOUSLY FINAL DECISIONS ON FUNDING REMAIN WITH THE COUNCIL. NEXT IS A CHART THAT'S IN SEVERAL PAGES WHERE WE HAVE HAVE BEEN ADVISE TENG WITH STAKEHOLDERS, INTEREST GROUPS AND OTHERS. AND WE HAVE INDICATED FOR EACH OF THE 15 RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE THAT PARTICULAR STAKEHOLDER GROUP STANDS AND WE'VE TRIED TO CODE THEM SO THAT IT WOULD BE EASIER TO READ. IN MANY CASES MOST OF THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS ARE IN FAVOR OF MOST OF THE ITEMS, BUT NOT IN FAVOR OF ONE OR TWO. IN SOME CASES THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF ALL AND IN SOME CASES THEY'RE OPPOSED TO ALL AND WE TRIED TO INDICATE WITH A LITTLE SMILEY FACE ON TOP OF EACH COLUMN FOR EACH GROUP OUR ASSESSMENT OF WHERE THEY STAND. I THINK MOST OF THEM ARE SMILES, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM. AND THERE ARE SOME OTHERS THAT MAY COME IN THE NEXT WEEK TO US. WE UNDERSTAND THAT PLANNING COMMISSION RECEIVED A PRESENTATION ABOUT A MONTH AGO, BUT THEY MAY TAKE A POSITION ON THIS THIS EVENING AT THEIR MEETING. I THINK THAT THE CHAMBER AND RECA MAY BE MAKING COMMENTS. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY, BUT THEY HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS AND MAY BE DOING SO, AND THERE MAY BE OTHERS BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE THIS. FOLLOWING THAT WE HAVE -- BASED ON OUR PRESENTATIONS SO FAR TO VARIOUS GROUPS, THEY HAVE ASKED US A SERIES OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE IN SOME CASES NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO OUR PARTICULAR STUDY OR SET OF STUDIES, AND WE'VE GOT A SET OF ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS AND WE'RE GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THESE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AND WE WANTED YOU TO HAVE THAT AS WELL. AND FINALLY IN YOUR PACKET WE HAVE DONE A SURVEY OF THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE A SERIES OF EIGHT FAIRLY GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MADE AVAILABLE ON THE WEB AND WE'VE -- OVER THE LAST FIVE OR SIX WEEKS WE'VE HAD TWO OR THREE HUNDRED RESPONDENTS TO THIS QUESTIONNAIRE AND THE ANSWERS AND THE PERCENTAGES AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO COMMUTE TO DOWNTOWN OR WORK DOWNTOWN ARE SHOWDOWN IN THERE AND WE CAN -- ARE SHOWN IN THERE AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT IT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF WHERE ONE SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY IS WITH REGARD TO THOSE ISSUES. AND FINALLY YOU HAVE A COPY OF WHAT WE CALL THE DAMP REPORT, THE DOWNTOWN ACCESS AND MOBILITY PLAN, WHICH IS THE DOCUMENT PREPARED BY OUR CONSULTANTS, WILBUR SMITH AND ASSOCIATES AND THE CONSULTANTS THAT WORK WITH THEM FOR THE MAJOR PORTION OF OUR PRESENTATION TODAY@ IS BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THAT MODELING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE IT WAS AUTHORIZED BY COUNCIL BACK IN 1999. I'D LIKE TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE PRESENTATION OF MY SLIDES. THE FIRST IS JUST TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT THERE WAS A RESOLUTION PASSED IN DECEMBER OF 2000 BY COUNCIL HAVING TO DO WITH THE DOWNTOWN URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES. IN THAT RESOLUTION COUNCIL INDICATED THAT THERE WAS A HIERARCHY OF TRANSPORTATION MODES IN AUSTIN THAT YOU WISHED FOR THE STAFF TO CONSIDER. AND YOU HAD PEDESTRIANS FIRST, PUBLIC TRANSIT SECOND, BICYCLES THIRD AND THEN VEHICLES FOURTH. AND YOU ALSO INDICATED THEN AND IN OTHER -- YOU HAD A WHOLE VARIETY OF STUDIES GOING ON THAT AND TO WORK WITH CAPITAL METRO AND THE STAKEHOLDERS TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND ALL THOSE STUDIES AND MAKE SOME SET OF COHERENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL REGARDING THOSE. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU SOME OF THE STUDIES THAT WE IN FACT HAVE HAVE BEEN USING AND HAVE BROUGHT TO BEAR IN THE SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE TO YOU TODAY. THE FIRST ON THIS LIST WAS THE DOWNTOWN ACCESS MOBILITY PLAN THAT I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE REPORT FROM THE DAMP REPORT, AND THIS WAS ESSENTIALLY THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MATHEMATICAL MODEL OF THE CBD, THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT OF DOWNTOWN, SO THAT WE AS STAFF CAN MAKE A CHANGE, WHETHER OR NOT THAT BE CHANGING FROM ONE WAY TO TWO WAY OR RAD ADDING A RIGHT TURN LANE OR CLOSING A STREET OR WHATEVER THAT CHANGE TO THE STREET PATTERN MIGHT BE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AND UNDERSTAND FROM THAT USING THE MODEL, THE RIPPLE EFFECT, HOW IT WOULD EFFECT TRAFFIC TWO OR THREE BLOCKS AWAY. AND WHAT KIND OF CONGESTION AND OTHER IMPACTS THAT MIGHT RESULT FROM THOSE KINDS OF CHANGES. SO WE HAVE A WHAT IF MODEL THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED THAT WE CAN USE FOR DOWNTOWN AND HAVE USED FOR THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WILL WANT TO CONTINUE TO USE OVER TIME AS WE GET TO BOND ELECTIONS AND OTHER CHANGES THAT OCCUR DOWNTOWN WITH REGARD TO DOAMENT.

THE OTHER IS OUR GREAT STREETS PROJECT. SINCLAIR BLACK AND ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US ON THAT PARTICULAR PLAN. IT'S NOT QUITE FINISHED, BUT WE HAVE TAKEN FROM THAT REPORT AND FROM THAT STUDY SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE INCORPORATED INTO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO YOU TODAY. AND I MIGHT GO BACK FOR A SECOND. DOWNTOWN ACCESS MOBILITY PLAN WAS SIMPLY TO LOOK FIVE YEARS AGO THE FUTURE. WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE NEAR TERM. WE STARTED IT, AS I SAY, IN 1999 WITH YOUR APPROVAL. IN THE YEAR 2000 WE DID A BASE CASE AND THEN LOOKED FIVE YEARS INTO THE FUTURE TO THE YEAR 2005 AND PROJECTING THE KIND OF GROWTH THAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE OCCURRED IN DOWNTOWN AS WE KNEW IT BACK IN THE YEAR 2000. OBVIOUSLY THINGS HAVE SLOWED DOWN SO OUR NEAR TERM IS STRETCHING A FEW MORE YEARS INTO THE FUTURE. BUT THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TIME FRAMES OF THOSE TWO STUDIES IS ONE IS LOOKING WELL INTO THE FUTURE, 25 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE. AND THE NEXT IS NEAR TERM. THE OTHER IS THE PARKING STUDY, ALSO DONE BY WILBUR SMITH. AND THEY LOOKED AT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS IN 2000 AND ALSO PREDICTED FIVE YEARS IN THE FUTURE AND GAVE US A SENSE FROM THAT STUDY THE ON STREET PARKING DEFICITS OR SURPLUSES THAT EXISTED IN VARIOUS PARTS OF DOWNTOWN. IN THAT STUDY WE ALSO LOOKED AT OTHER AREAS OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN, BUT IT DID FOCUS ON DOWNTOWN. AND WE'VE HAD THAT DONE NOW FOR THE LAST YEAR OR SO AND BEEN WAITING FOR GREAT STREETS AND DAMP TO BE COMPLETED TO INCORPORATE THAT STUDY IN WITH THOSE OTHERS. THE NEXT IS THE IS THE SEAHOLM DISTRICT MASTER PLAN. YOU RECEIVED THAT ABOUT A MONTH AGO. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. AND SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BUILD ON THOSE SAME THINGS THAT WE RECOMMENDED TO YOU IN THE SEAHOLM DISTRICT MASTER PLAN. ALSO WE HAVE INCORPORATED THE WORK OF THE -- OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER CONSULTANTS LOOKING AT THE CITY HALL AND THE SECOND STREET RETAIL DISTRICT PLAN. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT SORT OF FUNDAMENTAL PIECE IN THE SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS WE'LL BE MAKING TO YOU TODAY. NEXT IS THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY PLAN. THIS IS LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY, AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, IS A GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM TXDOT OF T-$21 THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO CONSTRUCT A DEDICATED BIKE WAY FROM MOPAC ON THE WEST TO 183 ON THE EAST, RUNNING PARALLEL TO TOWN LAKE AND CUTTING THROUGH OR GOING THROUGH DOWNTOWN. AND PART OF OUR SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU TODAY HAS TO DO WITH WHERE WE BELIEVE LANCE ARMSTRONG FITS BEST AS IT COMES THROUGH DOWNTOWN. WE'VE ALSO ARE AWARE OF THERE ARE VARIOUS 1998 BOND ELECTION ITEMS THAT PROVIDE FOR RECONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF ROADS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND WE'VE ASSUMED THOSE TO BE AVAILABLE TO BRING TO BEAR TO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL. FINALLY THE LAST TWO, WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH CAPITAL METRO STAFF AS YOU DIRECTED IN YOUR DECEMBER 2000 RECOMMENDATION ON THEIR FIVE-YEAR SERVICE PLAN, WHERE THEY EXPECT TO HAVE BUS ROUTES AND TO MOVE BUS ROUTES OVER THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD. AND FINALLY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH JOHN ALMOND, WHO IS REALLY OUR STAFF THAT HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO WORK WITH CAPITAL METRO ON THE RAPID TRANSIT PROJECT, AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT HOW AND IN WHAT WAY RAPID TRANSIT, IF IT WERE TO COME TO PASS, WOULD PASS THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN AREA BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH AS WELL AS EAST AND WEST. WHAT'S NOT ON HERE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND SORT OF THE BACKGROUND THAT WE'VE ALSO USED ARE THE RUDAT STUDIES. AND THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE 90'S WHEN WE HAD EXPERTS FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY COME TO THE CITY AND INVESTIGATE DOWNTOWN AND GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT OUGHT TO OCCUR DOWNTOWN TO MAKE IT A VERY VIABLE, BETTER DOWNTOWN. AND IN EACH INSTANCE, IN EACH OF THOSE THREE VISITS, THEY INDICATED THAT MAKING DOWNTOWN MUCH MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY BY CONVERTING STREETS TO TWO-WAY AND PLANTING TREES, WIDENING THE SIDEWALKS WERE ALL THINGS THAT THEY RECOMMENDED EACH AND EVERY TIME THAT THEY WERE HERE.

WYNN: SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT IN ADDITION TO THESE NINE STUDIES THAT YOU ALL ESSENTIALLY ARE SORT OF OVERLAYING AND TRYING TO BALANCE OUT, WE ALSO DO OUR BEST TO TRACK THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND ACTUALLY PLOT WHAT WE PERCEIVE TO BE LIKELY PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENTS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S FOURTH AND CONGRESS OR SIXTH AND LAMAR OR CONVENTION CENTER HOTELS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS TO ALSO THEN FIGURE OUT HOW, YOU KNOW, THE PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY DOWNTOWN ALSO SORT OF DOVE TAILS INTO ALL THE OTHER PLANS AND SORT OF CREATES THE NEEDS FOR THESE OTHER PLANS.

THAT'S ESSENTIALLY CORRECT. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE PROJECTION FOR 2005 WAS BASED ON WHAT WE THEN EXPECTED TO BE PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT IN DOWNTOWN. WE ASSUMED VIGNETTE, WE ASSUMED INTEL AND A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE DELAYED OR NOT HAPPENING PLUS WE ALSO MISSED SOME THAT IN FACT ARE HAPPENING. SO WE DID HAVE A SENSE THEN OF WHAT WE THOUGHT DOWNTOWN WOULD BE AND WE BASED A LOT OF THE CONSULTANT WORK IN OUR ANALYSIS ON THOSE PROJECTIONS. AND IN ADDITION -- WE'LL GET INTO THIS, BUT WE ALSO IN WORKING WITH DAA AND OTHER DOWNTOWN STAKEHOLDERS, HAVE INDICATED THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'LL BE WANTING TO WORK WITH THEIR MEMBERS BUILDING BY BUILDING, BLOCK BY BLOCK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THE SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE PERTAINING TO INDIVIDUAL PARKING GARAGES OR WHATEVER. THE NEXT SLIDE LISTS FOR YOU SOME OF THE GOALS THAT WE ATTEMPTED TO TRY TO ACHIEVE IN LOOKING AT THESE ISSUES AND WHAT TO DO WITH DOWNTOWN. AND BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A RECOMMENDATION IN THIS COMMUNITY I THINK TO BOTH LOOK AT DOWNTOWN FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF MAKING IT MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AND AT THE SAME TIME LOOK AT DOWNTOWN FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF DEALING WITH TRAFFIC CONGESTION. AND THERE IS -- TO A CERTAIN DEGREE THOSE ARE OPPOSITES. AND WE FELT IT WAS OUR JOB TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GAVE YOU AT LEAST SOME SENSE OF HOW TO BALANCE THOSE TWO PHILOSOPHIES OR DIFFERENT GOALS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE THINK WE HAVE DONE. AND, OF COURSE, THERE IS NO MAGIC FORMULA FOR THAT. THIS IS WHAT WE THINK BEST REPRESENTS WHAT WE UNDERSTAND TO BE THE DIRECTION THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL WANTS TO GO, BUT THERE IS A BALANCE THAT WE FELT NEEDED TO BE ACHIEVED, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND SO WITHIN THAT, ENHANCING SAFETY IS PART OF THOSE GOALS. OBVIOUSLY REDUCING DELAY AND CONGESTION IS IMPORTANT. AND WHAT WE HAVE HEARD, PARTICULARLY FROM CERTAIN GROUPS IN DOWNTOWN, IS THAT IT HAS TO DO WITH GETTING INTO DOWNTOWN FROM MOPAC AND FROM I-35 AS WELL AS THE CONGESTION THAT'S IN DOWNTOWN. WE ALSO OBVIOUSLY HAVE A GOAL OF ENCOURAGING ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION MODES, WALKING, TRANSIT USE, CYCLING AND CAR POOLING. AND WE HAVE -- AS I SAY, WE HAVE KEPT IN TOUCH WITH CAPITAL METRO AND OTHERS REGARDING HOW TO DO THOSE. ENHANCING ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IS ONE PARTICULAR GOAL, AND IN LOOKING AT SECOND STREET AND SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS OF DOWNTOWN, IT HAS BEEN PART OF OUR DESIRE TO TRY TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH SOMETHING THAT HELPS TO IMPROVE DOWNTOWN AS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE, TO BRING -- TO DEAL WITH LAND USE AND TRAFFIC FROM THE SPEAKER SPEKT ACTIVE OF ITS IMPACT ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE ALSO ARE INTERESTED IN ENHANCING THE PUBLIC SPACES, THE STREET SCAPES THEMSELVES, HOW THEY -- WHETHER THEY ARE FRIENDLY TO PEDESTRIANS AND TO BIKERS AND TO TRANSIT RIDERS. THE PLAZAS AND THE PARK LANDS THAT EXIST DOWNTOWN. AND THEN FINALLY, TO THE EXTENT WE CAN TO ENSURE FLEXIBILITY OF THE STREET NETWORK THAT WHAT WE RECOMMEND WILL NOT BE SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE REVERSED OR THAT WE CANNOT GO BACK AND CHANGE SHOULD WE DETERMINE THAT THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING ISN'T WORKING. AGAIN, THIS IS THE MAP THAT YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT DISPLAYS THE 15 RECOMMENDATIONS. AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE DAMP STUDY CONSULTANT'S WORK, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR FROM OUR CONSULTANTS FOR GREAT STREETS. WE HAVE -- FROM THE DAMP MODEL WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE DID NOTHING OVER THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX YEARS TO THE DOWNTOWN STREET NETWORK, THE GROWTH AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AS COUNCILMEMBER WYNN HAS INDICATED, WOULD GIVE US PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A 23% INCREASE IN THE EVENING PEAK HOUR CONGESTION. THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING DON'T ELIMINATE THAT, BUT THEY REDUCE IT TO 15%. SIMILARLY THE NUMBER OF INTERSECTIONS WITH DELAYS OF GREATER THAN 40 SECONDS IS GOING TO GO UP TREMENDOUSLY OVER THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX YEARS BY 114% IS WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING IF WE DID NOTHING. AND WE'VE REDUCED THAT TO 79% WITH THE RECOMMENDATION SET THAT WE'RE MAKING HERE TODAY. WE HAVE ALSO BEEN VERY CAREFUL, I THINK, TO MAKE SURE IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE LEAVING THE ROADWAY CAPACITY FOR THE MAJOR ACCESS ROUTES AS THEY ARE, SO WE HAVE NOT IN OUR RECOMMENDATION CHANGED FIFTH AND SIXTH STREET, WHICH ARE ONE-WAY STREETS, OR FIRST, SECOND STREET ONE-WAY PAIR, WE'VE CHANGE IT HAD TO THIRD STREET, BUT ESSENTIALLY HAVE CONTINUED TO RECOMMEND THAT THOSE TWO PAIRS IN THE EAST-WEST DIRECTION REMAIN. AND THEN THE NORTH-SOUTH DIRECTION WE ALSO HAVE GUADALUPE AND LAVACA AS A NORTH-SOUTH PAIR THAT WOULD STAY IN THE ONE WAY DIRECTION IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. THE FIRST -- I'LL NOW TAKE YOU THROUGH EACH OF THE 15 RECOMMENDATIONS THEMSELVES. THE FIRST ONE IS TO LIMIT LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS FROM LAMAR ON TO FIFTH AND SIXTH. AND THE MAP HERE -- I WILL SORT OF TRY TO DEMONSTRATE FOR YOU HOW THIS WORKS. IF YOU'RE COMING SOUTH FROM LAMAR, YOU WOULD -- AND YOU WANT TO GO LEFT ON SIXTH STREET OUT TOWARDS MOPAC, INSTEAD OF DOING THAT, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT DURING RUSH HOUR YOU WOULD MAKE A RIGHT TURN ON FIFTH STREET AND THEN A LEFT TURN ON WEST AND THEN YOU WOULD BE AT SIXTH STREET AND YOU WOULD GO WEST AT THAT POINT. AND IT WOULD BE THE SAME MOVEMENT IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION FROM THE NORTH. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO TRY THIS FOR A SIX-MONTH PERIOD TO SEE IF IT WORKS, DO A TEST. AND THE REASON FOR IT IS IF WE'RE ABLE TO SUCCEED, WHAT WE'RE THEN DOING IS REMOVING FROM THE TURN CYCLE, FROM THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL CYCLE, WHICH IS ABOUT 120 SECOND CYCLE, WE'RE REMOVING SOME AMOUNT OF THAT FROM TURN MOVEMENTS AND INSTEAD GIVING IT TO THROUGH MOVEMENTS SO THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE TIME FOR TRAFFIC TO MOVE THROUGH FIFTH AND SIXTH ON LAMAR IF YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GIVE TIME TO LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS. AND WE THINK THAT WILL HELP TO ALLEVIATE THE CONGESTION AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS. WE'VE HAD SOME COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE AND FROM THE MERCHANTS IN THAT AREA WHO FEEL LIKE THIS WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR THEM. IN OUR TEST WE WOULD LOOK AT POSSIBLY OTHER SOLUTIONS, OTHER DEVICES THAT MIGHT MAKE IT WORK BETTER FOR THEIR CONCERNS, AND WE WOULD WANT TO TEST THAT. AS I INDICATED, THIS WOULD BE A TEST THAT WE WOULD DO AND IT WOULD LOOK TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT THIS JUST DURING THE RUSH HOUR PERIOD. THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE FIRST ONE, BUT IT'S THE SAME SORT OF THING ON CONGRESS AVENUE. CONGRESS AVENUE FROM FIRST TO 11th DOESN'T WORK REALLY VERY WELL AS AN ARTERIAL STREET. BASICALLY THE ONLY LANES DURING RUSH HOUR THAT ARE AVAILABLE OUT OF THE SIX LANES ARE THE MIDDLE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. THE LEFT LANE IS USUALLY BLOCKED WITH TRAFFIC WANTING TO TURN LEFT AND THE RIGHT LANE IS USUALLY BLOCKED WITH BUSES. SO THE -- THERE IS A SEVERE LIMITATION ON THROUGH MOVEMENTS ON CONGRESS AVENUE. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION AGAIN IS TO TEST LIMITATIONS OF THE LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS DURING RUSH HOUR AS WE WOULD ON LAMAR. THE THIRD RECOMMENDATION IS TO PROVIDE WHAT WE CALL A REVERSIBLE LANE ON A SMALL PORTION OF SOUTH FIRST STREET, ESSENTIALLY THE DRAKE BRIDGE AND ONE OR TWO BLOCKS SOUTH OF THE DRAKE BRIDGE. AND THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO DURING RUSH HOUR IN THE MORNING HAVE AN EXTRA LANE COMING IN THE INWARD DIRECTION AND IN RUSH HOUR IN THE EVENING REVERSE THAT AND HAVE AN EXTRA LANE IN THE OUTWARD DIRECTION. AGAIN, THIS WOULD INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF DRAKE BRIDGE FOR TRAFFIC COMING IN ONE OF THOSE PORTALS INTO DOWNTOWN BY ABOUT THREE%. WE THINK THIS WOULD BE USEFUL TO DO. IT DOES HAVE A COST OF ABOUT $700,000. IT WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO IMPLEMENT THAT, BUT WE THINK THIS IS -- SHOULD THE FUNDS BECOME AVAILABLE, IT WILL BE A WORTHWHILE IMPROVEMENT TO THE MOBILITY OF DOWNTOWN. THE NEXT ONE, THE FOURTH ONE, HAS TO DO WITH PROVIDING AN EXTRA LEFT TURN LANE FROM LAMAR ON TO BARTON SPRINGS ROAD, AT THE INTERSECTION OF LAMAR AND BARTON SPRINGS. CURRENTLY THERE ARE TWO LEFT TURN LANES FROM BARTON SPRINGS ON TO LAMAR, AND THIS WOULD PROVIDE A SIMILAR SET OF LEFT TURNS IN THE OTHER DIRECTION. AGAIN, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO MOVE THE LEFT TURN MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THE INTERSECTION FASTER, THEN YOU HAVE MORE TIME IN A SIGNAL CYCLE THAT YOU CAN DEVOTE TO THROUGH MOVEMENTS. SO WE THINK THIS AGAIN WILL HELP US TO GET MORE THROUGH TRAFFIC AND TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONGESTION IN THAT AREA. NO ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THIS PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION. THE NEXT IS TO CONVERT SECOND STREET TO TWO-WAY ONE LANE EACH WAY. COUNCIL HAS SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST RECEIVED RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE STAFF REGARDING SECOND STREET, AND WE HAVE IN FACT ALREADY BEGUN TO DO SOME ENGINEERING WORK LOOKING AT THE ENGINEERING OF THIS STREET FROM THE GREEN WATER TREATMENT PLANT ALL THE WAY TO THE VENGS CENTER AND TO CHANGE IT FROM A ONE WAY DIRECTION TO ONLY TWO LANES AND ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. WITH A VERY WIDE, 32-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK TO THE NORTH AND AN 18-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH. IN ADDITION TO THAT THERE IS ALREADY A GREAT DEAL OF WORK THAT WE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN DOING WITH REGARD TO RETAIL ALONG SECOND STREET. I'D LIKE TO STOP AT THIS POINT AND LET JAN HILTON GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH REGARD TO THAT.

THANK YOU, AUSTAN. I KNOW THERE'S INTEREST IN WHERE WE ARE ON THE RETAIL PROJECTS SINCE OF COURSE THE CSC SPACES ARE COMPLETING AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO LATER THIS YEAR GO OUT AND HAVE OUR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE NEW CITY HALL. SO WE'RE SEEING THE BENEFITS OF THAT STREET AND THE VISION BECOMING A REALITY. LET ME FIRST GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, THOUGH. WE GET QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BLOCK 20 PROJECT, WHICH IS THE AMLI RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, WHICH IS ACROSS FROM THE CSC BUILDING THAT'S CLOSEST TO CONGRESS. THEY DID HAVE HE IS STOPPAGE EARLIER THIS YEAR. THEY HAVE REBID THE PROJECT AND WE HAVE HEARD THAT THEY HAVE ISSUED THE NOTICE TO PROVIDE. SO WE EXPECT BY JULY 22nd THAT THEY WILL BE UNDERWAY. THEY ARE ALREADY HAVING SITE MEETINGS WITH SUBCONTRACTORS.

WYNN: AND TO VERIFY, THAT'S A PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT. IT'S NOT THE CITY OF AUSTIN DEVELOPING THAT.

RIGHT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO US, THOUGH, BECAUSE WITHIN THAT STREET WE'RE FINDING THAT THE RETAIL TENANTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROACHED OVER THE LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN ALL OF THE SIX BLOCKS. SO WE FEEL LIKE THE MORE COMPLETION WE CAN HAVE OF OTHER PROJECTS, THE MORE SUCCESSFUL WE'LL GET IN ATTRACTING THE TENANTS WE WANT IN OUR PROJECT. AND AMLI IS ALSO ONE OF THE PARTNERS IN OUR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. IF YOU RECALL, IN OCTOBER 2000 WE WERE GIVEN THE GREEN LIGHT TO GO AHEAD WITH A JOINT VENTURE OF AMLI RESIDENTIAL AND THEN A LOCAL GROUP TO NEGOTIATE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE NEGOTIATING, THE TWO FIRST FLOORS OF THE CSC BUILDINGS, THAT'S ROUGHLY 58,000 SQUARE FEET, AND THEN WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR THOUSAND SQUARE FEET IN THE NEW CITY HALL THAT WE ADDED TO THE PROJECT. THEY ARE OWE THEY ARE DEVELOPING A RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET, AND THEN ON BLOCK 22, WHICH IS A CITY BLOCK, WE ARE NEGOTIATING WITH AMLI TO DO A TWIN RESIDENTIAL RETAIL PROJECT WHICH THEN WILL COMPLICATE -- WILL HAVE RETAIL ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. WE WORKED UNTIL LATE 2001 ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS TO LOOK AT. AS AUSTAN MENTIONED, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE DEVELOPER BROUGHT FORWARD WAS TO HIRE ROMA AND PUT MORTSDZ SOME PLANNING EFFORT ON WHAT SHOULD SECOND STREET, WHAT'S THE VISION FOR SECOND STREET ON THE SIDEWALKS, THE STREETS, AS WELL AS SURROUNDING STREETS TO ENHANCE THE ENTIRE PROJECT. AND THAT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY BROUGHT INTO THE GREAT STREETS PLAN, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND IT'S ONE OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HE SPOKE OF. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE RETAIL DEVELOPER THAT THAT TYPE OF STREET SCAPE BE IMPLEMENTED. I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR THE SUCCESS OF OUR PROJECT. SO HERE WE ARE NOW IN 2002, AND WHY DO WE NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT? ABOUT THE TIME LATE IN 2001, BONER CARRINGTON LOST ONE OF ITS PRINCIPALS, WHO WENT ON TO A DIFFERENT BUSINESS, AND AT THE SAME TIME AMLI HAS BEEN LOOKING AT A RETAIL PARTNER FOR ITS TWO PROJECTS. THAT'S WHY I'VE MENTIONED THEM PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE THEY SORT OF ALL GET INTERTWINED IN THIS PROJECT. THEY HAVE NOW NARROWED THEIR SEARCH. WE'RE VERY PLEASED ABOUT THIS. THEIR MOST LIKELY CANDIDATE IS SINCOR REALTY AND THE WISEMAN GROUP. THEY ARE DEVELOPING, AS YOU KNOW, THE TRIANGLE PROJECT, WHICH IS AN URBAN RETAIL PROJECT. THEY ARE WORKING WITH THEM NEGOTIATING THEIR DEAL. SHOULD THE CITY AGREE, THEY WILL DO OUR THIRD-PARTY PLANNING, LEASING, MANAGING OF THE SITE. SO WE NOW ARE ANXIOUS AND READY TO GET BACK IN TO THOSE NEGOTIATIONS. IN FACT, WE'VE SET A TIMETABLE BEGINNING THIS MONTH. AND WE ARE -- OUR EXPECTATION RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE WILL CONCLUDE THAT IN THE FALL AND THEN WE CAN GET GOING. WE'RE LOOKING -- PART OF THE TIMING OF THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS IT APPEARS THE COMPLETION OF CITY HALL IS IMPORTANT FOR SOME OF THE TENANTS. EVEN THOUGH THE GARAGE LISTEN DONE AND THAT DOES HOUSE THE PARKING FOR THE RETAIL DISTRICT, ALTHOUGH WE BELIEVE THERE CAN BE SOME TENANTS BEFORE WE OPEN THAT GARAGE FOR RESTAURANTS BECAUSE WE WILL ALSO BE WORKING OUT VALET PARKING WITH CSC IN THEIR GARAGES FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME. BUT WE WILL NOT BE OPENING THE GARAGE UNTIL THE CITY HALL IS COMPLETED, SO THAT'S SPRING OF 2004. SO IF YOU CAN PUT YOURSELF TOWARDFORWARD TO 2004, THAT'S WHEN WE BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE THE AMLI PROJECT. THEY HOPE TO HAVE THEIR FIRST UNITS DONE IN JANUARY OF 2004. THEY'RE GOING TO LEASE AS THEY FINISH, SO THEY WON'T WAIT FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT TO BE DONE. SO THEIR RETAIL AND OUR RETAIL SPACES WILL ALL BE MERGING TOGETHER IN THAT SPRING 2004 TIMETABLE. WE'RE STILL VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. WE THINK IT'S A VIABLE PROJECT. WE DO HAVE A DOWN MARKET, BUT THE RETAIL NEED IN THAT SECTOR IN DOWNTOWN IS STILL VERY STRONG. WHEN YOU SEE EVERYTHING THAT'S COMING TOGETHER, AND ESPECIALLY THE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S COMING FORTH FROM THE DAA FOR BLOCK 21 THAT SAYS YES, WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE RETAIL, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY PLEASED WITH THE OUTCOME OF THIS PROCESS.

WYNN: I WANT TO THANK SORT OF THE COMBINATION OF THIS PRESENCE BECAUSE I THINK INITIALLY WE WERE JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE DAMP. BUT I THINK AT LEAST A BIG ELEMENT OF THIS PIECE OF THE PROPOSAL, THAT IS THE CONVERSION OF SECOND STREET TO TWO-WAY, TIES INTO THIS VERY IMPORTANT, VERY EXPENSIVE INVESTMENT THE CITY NOW HAS. AND NOT ONLY IN THE SIX BLOCKS WEST OF CONGRESS, BUT THE THREE BLOCKS EAST OF CONGRESS THAT THEN TIES THE NEW EXPANDED CONVENTION CENTER INTO THIS WHOLE SORT OF RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. AND SO BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ASK, WELL, SO WHY ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF THE DAMP PROPOSAL, WHY ARE WE PUSHING THE BIFURCATED CESAR CHAVEZ UP TO THIRD STREET? IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS LONG THOUGHT OUT SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT AND NEED FOR THIS SUCCESSFUL RETAIL STRIP ON SECOND STREET.

AND IT DOES LEAD TO THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS THAT WE CONVERT THIRD STREET TO ONE WAY, WHICH IS THE NEXT SLIDE I'M SHOWING. I THINK IT MAY BE OUT OF ORDER IN THE HANDOUT. AND WE'RE SUGGESTING, AS WE NOW HAVE AT FIRST CESAR CHAVEZ AND SECOND STREET A ONE WAY PAIR, BECAUSE OF THE SECOND STREET RETAIL DISTRICT, WE NOW MAKE THAT A FIRST AND THIRD STREET ONE-WAY PAIR. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO FORWARD TO CONSTRUCT SECOND STREET TO WIDEN THOSE SIDEWALKS, AND ALSO TO DO THAT TO THIRD STREET, TO GET THIRD STREET AND SECOND STREET TOGETHER AT THE -- OWE IF YOU WILL, TO BE GRADE STREETS. AND THOSE ARE OUR ONLY RECOMMENDATIONS TO GO THAT FAR WITH GREAT STREETS. THE REST OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOT TO GO THAT FAR BECAUSE WE DON'T FEEL WE CAN JUSTIFY THE EXPENSE AT THIS POINT IN TIME OR THAT WE HAVE -- OR LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY, TO IDENTIFY A FUNDING SOURCE WITHOUT GOING TO ANOTHER BOND ELECTION. SO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS STOP WITH REGARD TO THE FULL EXTENT OF GREAT STREETS JUST WITH SECOND AND THIRD STREET. AND I WOULD SAY THE NUMBER ONE FLAGSHIP RECOMMENDATION OF OUR CONSULTANTS ON THIRD STREET IS TO CONVERT CESAR CHAVEZ TO A TWO-WAY TREE-LINED BOULEVARD. WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT. WE DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CONGESTION THAT WE PROJECT FROM THE DAMP MODEL THAT WOULD OCCUR. WE ACTUALLY ARE LOOKING AT MANY MINUTES, AS MANY AS NINE MINUTES OF DELAY FROM DOWNTOWN AUSTIN AS WE WERE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS TO CONVERT CESAR CHAVEZ TO TWO-WAY. SO WE ARE WE ARE, AS I SAID EARLIER, TAKING SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE STREETS AND TAKING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM DAMP AND TRYING TO PULL THOSE TOGETHER IN WHAT WE THINK IS A GOOD OVERALL SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS. NOW WE'LL GO TO THE FIRST OF FOUR DIFFERENT SETS OF TWO-WAY STREET CONVERSIONS. OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THAT WE CONVERT FIRST BRAZOS AND COLORADO TO TWO-WAY. RIGHT NOW COLORADO IS ONE WAY IN TWO DIRECTIONS, DEPENDING ON WHAT PART OF COLORADO YOU'RE ON, IT'S ONE WAY NORTH TO THIRD STREET, I BELIEVE IT IS, AND THEN IT'S ONE WAY SOUTH FROM 11th TO THIRD. AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND WE CONVERT IT AND BRAZOS TO TWO WAY. AND PART THE OF THE REASON IS TO ENABLE US WITH CAPITAL METRO TO TAKE BUS TRAFFIC, BUS STOPS OFF OF CONGRESS AVENUE. IF THESE TWO STREETS ARE TWO WAY, CAPITAL METRO HAS TOLD US THAT IT ALLOWS THEM TO RUN THEIR BUS ROUTES, IF YOU WILL, NUMBER A BOX FORMATION, USING IN A CLOCKWISE DIRECTION GOING UP COLORADO AND DOWN BRAZOS. AND THAT THAT'S THE OPPOSITE OF THE DIRECTION THAT THEY TRAVEL NOW TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE ON THOSE STREETS. AND THAT THAT WORKS BETTER FOR THEIR ROUTES, IT WORKS BETTER FOR TRANSFERS AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH. I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT WHETHER THEY WOULD LEAVE ANY ROUTES ON CONGRESS OR TAKE THEM ALL OFF CONGRESS. THAT'S STILL A DISCUSSION THAT THEY'RE HAVING INTERNALLY, BUT CONVERTING TO TWO-WAY DOES THAT AS WELL AS THE REASONS THAT THE RUDAT AND OTHERS HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT WE CONVERT TO TWO-WAY THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE ABILITY TO MAKE THESE STREETS MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. AND YES, AS A RESULT OF THAT IT INCREASES DELAY. AND IN THIS CASE OUR MODEL HAS INDICATED THAT CONVERTING THOSE STREETS WOULD INCREASE DELAY BY 14 SECONDS IN DOWNTOWN. AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER CONVERSIONS. WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE, WHERE THE DELAY IS EVEN GREATER THAN THAT. THE GREAT STREETS LEVEL OF CHANGE HERE WOULD BE $13 MILLION. THAT'S THE WIDEN THE SIDEWALK AND PLANT TREES AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT, AS I INDICATED EARLIER. WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE CONVERT TO TWO-WAY, WHICH IS STILL COSTLY AT 600,000, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE THINK THERE MAY BE FUNDS TO DO. THE SECOND SET OF CONVERSIONS IT S. TO CHANGE NINTH AND 10th STREETS TO TWO WAY. AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IT COMES -- HAS BECOME APPARENT TO US IN JUST THE LAST FEW MONTHS TO DO THIS IS THAT THE GENERAL SERVICE ADMINISTRATION, GSA, HAS CLOSED ONE BLOCK OF NINTH STREET, A BLOCK WHERE THEIR FEDERAL BUILDING HAS AIR RIGHTS OVER THAT BUILDING. AND IT TURNS OUT THEY CLOSED IT AS A RESULT OF 9-11. AND WE TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT WHEN THEY MIGHT OPEN AGAIN AND THEY POINTED OUT TO US THAT WE HAD SOLD THEM NINTH STREET, THAT BLOCK OF NINTH STREET BACK IN THE '60S. SO THEY OWN THAT STREET, THE CITY DOESN'T. AND WE HAVE AN EASEMENT ON THEIR PROPERTY. SO IT'S UNLIKELY, AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS ANYWAY, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REOPEN THAT. AND IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT, WE THINK, TO HAVE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC ON NINTH AND 10th AND PERHAPS EIGHTH STREET AS WELL TO ALLOW TRAFFIC MOVEMENT TO OCCUR THAT IS OTHERWISE BLOCKED BY THE CLOSURE OF THAT STREET. YOU MAY RECALL 11th STREET IS TWO WAY. AND WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS WE THEN GO SOUTHWARD FROM 11th STREET, CONVERTING FIRST 10th AND THEN NINTH. AND THEN WE HAVE AT THAT POINT FINISHED THE FIRST TWO PAIRS OF CONVERSIONS. AND THAT WILL PROBABLY TAKE US TWO OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW TO DO IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO GO FORWARD. AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING TWO MORE SETS OF CONVERSIONS, BUT ONLY AFTER DETERMINING WHETHER THESE CONVERSIONS WERE SUCCESSFUL. IF IT'S DETERMINED TO BE SUCCESSFUL, THEN IT'S RECOMMENDED WE GO ON TO THE NEXT TWO SETS, THE FIRST BEING TO CONVERT EIGHTH AND THEN SEVENTH STREET. THAT WOULD INCREASE THE DELAY ON THOSE TWO STREETS, AND THAT WOULD BE A MINUTE AND A HALF, 93 SECONDS. AGAIN, THE COST IS THE SAME AS THE OTHER CONVERSIONS IN TERMS OF PUTTING IN NEW SETS OF STREET LIGHTS THAT ARE FACING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND THAT SORT OF THING. WE THINK THAT THESE SETS OF CONVERSIONS IN THE EAST-WEST DIRECTION MAKE SENSE. THEY'RE NOT STREETS THAT ARE THROUGH STREETS. THEY ARE NOT THE ARTERIALS THAT CARRY TRAFFIC THROUGH TOWN OR THROUGH DOWNTOWN. THEY ARE BASICALLY STREETS THAT DEAD END AT I-35 AND ON THE WEST SIDE ESSENTIALLY DEAD END INTO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE WEST OF DOWNTOWN. SO THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT CONVERSION. AND THE FINAL ONE IS TO CONVERT TRINITY AND SAN JACINTO TO TWO WAY. WE'RE LOOKING IN THIS INSTANCE TO TAKE THOSE CONVERSIONS ALL THE WAY TO MLK, BUT THAT WORK AND AN ANALYSIS OF THAT WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE DONE WITH THE DAMP MODEL AT A LATER DATE. BUT AGAIN THIS WOULD BE A CONVERSION ONLY AFTER WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THE OTHER NORTH-SOUTH CONVERSION, COLORADO AND BRAZOS, IS WORKING ON THE SATISFACTION OF THE COMMUNITY. YES?

NOW? OKAY. YOU SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE PLAN, THAT THIS ENTIRE PLAN. AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE TWO WAY STREETS, I THINK THAT MAY BE AN EXAMPLE OF IT. YOUR PLAN WOULD BE TO DO THE NINTH STREET PAIR FIRST. AND AGAIN, HOW LONG WOULD YOU TAKE TO EVALUATE THAT CHANGE BEFORE MOVING TO THE SECOND AND THE THIRD AND THE FOURTH?

WELL, I THINK WE WOULD DO ONE PAIR EAST-WEST AND ONE PAIR NORTH-SOUTH.

DUNKERLEY: AT THE SAME TIME?

ROUGHLY AT THE SAME TIME. AND THAT WOULD TAKE US PROBABLY A YEAR OR TWO TO DO TO GET THAT WORK DONE. AND THEN WE WOULD I THINK WAIT A YEAR BEFORE WE GO ON TO THE NEXT TWO SETS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT USING UP ALMOST THE WHOLE FIVE YEARS OF THIS PERIOD TO GET THAT KIND OF WORK DONE.

BUT BY DOING IT IN THOSE CHANGES, THAT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THE RESULTS. AND IF YOU FIND IT'S NOT ACHIEVING THE ENDS THAT YOU WANT, YOU CAN MORE READILY REVERSE THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO DO THE WHOLE THING.

THAT'S RIGHT. A AND THE STREET LIGHTS THEMSELVES IS THE MAJOR COST FOR THIS CONVERSION, AND THEY CAN BE REUSED. WE'RE CONVERTING AND ADDING STREET SIGNALS TO 14 TO 20 INTERSECTIONS EVERY YEAR, SO THAT EQUIPMENT IS NOT LOST AND CAN BE REUSED. MOVING ON, NOW WE COME TO TWO OR THREE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT TO SOME DEGREE YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE IN THE PRESENTATION WE'VE MADE ON THE SEAHOLM MASTER PLAN. THIS FIRST ONE --

ALVAREZ: MR. LEBROCK, I'D LIKE YOU TO GO BACK TO THE CONVERSION TO TWO WAY OF SOME STREETS, BEFORE WE LEAVE THAT TOPIC. I GUESS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAS BEEN RAISED ABOUT THAT HAS TO DO WITH HOW MUCH PARKING WE'RE LOSING. AND I GUESS I'M NOT SURE WHY IT IS THAT WE'RE LOSING I THINK -- I GUESS IF WE DO ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AT SOME POINT WE LOSE SEVERAL HUNDRED SPACES DOWNTOWN. AND I GUESS I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THAT IS THAT WE'RE LOSING SO MANY BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE STREETS SEEM PRETTY WIDE, BUT I WAS JUST WANTING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.

YES. WE'VE DONE A RECOUNT. I THINK INITIALLY WHEN WE WERE MAKING THESE PRESENTATIONS WE WERE SAYING IT COULD BE SEVERAL HUNDREDS THAT WERE LOST AND WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE A WINDSHIELD SURVEY AND WALKED THE STREETS AND LOOKED AT IT BETTER AND NOW THE COUNT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT IS THAT WE WOULD LOSE 88 SPACES. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS, BUT IT'S STILL A LOSS OF SOME SPACE. AND MAYBE WE CAN ASK JANA OR GORDON TO EXPAND ON THAT.

I'M JANA McCANN. AND I THINK PART OF THE LOSS OF SOME OF THE SPACES IS TWEEL DUE TO IN THE SECOND STREET DISTRICT WHERE WE'RE REALLY NARROWING THE STREETS AND THIRD STREET AS WELL WHERE WE'RE TAKING ONE LANE OF PARKING OFF OF ONE SIDE OF THE STREET MORE THAN THROUGH THE SIMPLE CONVERSION, BECAUSE MOST CASES WE CAN REALLY KEEP MOST OF THE SPACES, EVEN IN THE CASE WHERE WE HAVE ANGLED PARKING LIKE ON NINTH AND 10th STREET, WE'LL ABLE TO CONSERVE THAT ANGLED PARKING AND PROVIDE THREE LANES OF TRAVEL WAY. SO IT'S REALLY DUE TO THE BIGGER GREAT STREETS PROJECT.

ALVAREZ: AND THEN WITH THESE FIRST RECOMMENDED CONVERSIONS, I GUESS THE IMPACT WOULD BE EVEN LESS, I WOULD THINK.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND ALSO I THINK THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY, WHICH WE'RE LOOKING AT, WILL NEED TO CHANGE SOME OF THE ANGLED PARKING TO PARALLEL, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN A FEW LOST SPACES THERE, BUT IT'S STILL QUITE MINIMAL. I THINK THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES WE HAVE IN DOWNTOWN IS ABOUT 3500. SO 82 OUT OF THAT IS -- THAT'S A PRETTY MINOR PERCENTAGE.

ALVAREZ: OKAY. THANK YOU.

DUNK DID YOU KNOW

DUNKERLEY: AND THOSE THAT ARE LOST DUE TO THE TWO WAY STREETS YOU THINK IS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF THAT NUMBER?

YES.

DUNKERLEY: OKAY.

WYNN: IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD SORT OF ADD TO THE ANALYSIS AND GO AHEAD AND SHOW US AS SPECIFICALLY AS WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THE -- IF PHASE ONE, AS AN EXAMPLE, IS TO DO THE NORTH-SOUTH AND EAST-WEST SINGLE CONVERSION SET, IF WE COULD IDENTIFY HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE LOST THERE, AND THEN ALSO JUST SORT OF OVERLAY ON THE ENTIRE DOWNTOWN PLAN, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WHERE THE SPACES ARE BEING LOST? BECAUSE INITIALLY SOME OF THE HEART BURN WAS THAT DOWNTOWN IS -- THERE'S DIFFERENT DYNAMICS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF DOWNTOWN. THE VAST MAJORITY OF OFF STREET PARKING SPACES ARE SOUTH OF SIXTH STREET. AND SO IF WE'RE TOLD THAT WE'RE CLUES LOOING SOME PARKING SPACES, SAY, SOUTH OF SIXTH STREET, IT'S PROBABLY LESS HEART BURN FOR SOME DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS AND RETAILERS AND TENANTS THAN IF WE WERE TO RECOGNIZE WE'RE LOSING PARKING SPACES NORTH OF SIXTH STREET BECAUSE THOSE AREAS HAVE VERY FEW OFF-STREET PARKING FACILITIES AVAILABLE. SO I THINK IT WILL HELP ALLEVIATE A LOT OF CONCERN AND GIVE US BETTER INFORMATION IF WE DO SEE PRETTY SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE'RE LOSING SPACES AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THEM, IF AT ALL.

WE'LL PREPARE THAT MAP AND HAVE IT FOR YOU.

OKAY. THEN GOING BACK TO THE PRESENTATION, THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SEAHOLM MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE RECONSTRUCT SANDRA MARIDA WAY. AND IF YOU RECALL, THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN AND THAT STREET AND THE DOTTED LINE CURRENTLY GOES IN THIS DIRECTION HERE. AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE MOVE SANTA MARIDA WAY SO THAT IT'S CONFIGURED AS I'M SHOWING HERE. THIS PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION IS SIMPLY TO ADD A RIGHT TURN BAY OFF OF LAMAR TO MAKE IT EVEN EASIER TO GET A QUE OF CARS THAT ARE MOVING FROM LAMAR ON TO CESAR CHAVEZ. SO IF IT'S DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A CHANGE TO SANTA MORIDA WAY AS A RESULT OF THE MASTER PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, THE COST IS ABOUT 10,000 DOLLARS. IF WE WANT TO DO THIS IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY OTHER CHANGES TO SANTA MORIDA WAY, THE COST WOULD BE MUCH MORE. WE THINK IT'S CERTAINLY, ALONG WITH THE CHANGE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IN THE MASTER PLAN, THAT THIS IS A WORTHWHILE THING TO DO TO HELP US ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC SOMETIMES WHICH BACKS UP ACROSS THE BRIDGE ON LAMAR.

WYNN: SORRY TO INTERRUPT. ARE WE SAYING IT'S GOING TO COST 10,000 DOLLARS TO BUILD A TURN LANE THERE ON LAMAR? OR IS IT MORE OF A STRIPING ISSUE OR SOMETHING? THAT SEEMS MARKEDLY LOW TO ME.

I THINK WE'RE COUNTING ON MOST OF THE EXPENSE BEING BORNE BY THE RECONSTRUCTION OF SANTA MORIDA WAY ITSELF. AND IF IT'S DONE THEN, IT WILL BE A VERY MINOR INCREASE IN COST.

WYNN: SO AS AN EXAMPLE, IF ONE OF THE REASON IS PART OF THE SEAHOLM PLAN APPROVAL, IF A DECISION IS MADE NOT PART OF THE REASON, AT LEAST IN SOME TEMPORARY STAGE, NOT TO REALANE SANTA MORIDA, BUT LEAVE IT AS IT IS, BUT IF THE DECISION IS MADE TO ADD A RIGHT TURN LANE FOR NORTHBOUND LAMAR TRAFFIC, IT WOULD INVOLVE A SUBSTANTIAL CONSTRUCTION OR --

SUBSTANTIAL CONSTRUCTION AND WE WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT. I THINK OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE 10,000 DOLLARS, IT'S VERY EASY I THINK TO IDENTIFY THOSE DOLLARS, BUT A MILLION DOLLARS WOULD BE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT.

I THINK IT WOULD HELP US PERHAPS IN TALKING ABOUT SANTA MORIDA IF WE JUST HAD SOME ESTIMATE AS TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE REALIGNING THE SANTA MORIDA LANE, A RIGHT TURN LANE COSTS 10,000 DOLLARS, IF YOU DON'T REALIGN IT AND WE STILL WANT TO DO A RIGHT TURN LANE OFF OF LAMAR, PERHAPS SOME APPROXIMATION AS TO WHAT THAT WOULD INVOLVE. [ONE MOMENT, PLEASE, FOR CHANGE IN CAPTIONERS]NO CARRIERRINGCONNECT 1200

THE NEXT ONE IS RELATED TO THE PREVIOUS ONE IN THAT WE WOULD IN THIS INSTANCE EXTEND THIRD STREET FROM WHERE IT CURRENTLY ENDS AT NUECES ACROSS THE -- ACROSS THE CREEK, AND THEN ALL THE WAY TO WEST AVENUE. THE EXTENDED WEST AVENUE. SO THERE IS A BRIDGE ACROSS SHOAL CREEK THAT WOULD EITHER NEED TO BE REDONE OR UPGRADED, BUT THAT WE THINK THAT, AGAIN, THIS ENHANCES THE HISTORIC GRID SYSTEM OF THE CITY, FINISHES ANOTHER LENGTH IN THAT GRID SYSTEM AND OUGHT TO BE DONE AND GIVES US MORE MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY IN DOWNTOWN. THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKE WAY THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER ON NEEDS A PLACE FOR IT TO COME THROUGH FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST THROUGH DOWNTOWN, AND WE HAVE WITH THE CONSULTANTS AND WITH STAFF HAVE LOOKED AT EVERY EAST-WEST STREET IN DOWNTOWN THAT MIGHT BE FEASIBLE. AND WITH EACH ONE THERE IS A SET OF PROBLEMS. WE THINK THAT FOURTH STREET IN THE END IS THE ONE THAT WHERE LANCE ARMSTRONG WOULD WORK BEST, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT AT LEAST FOR THE INTERIM THAT IS CORRECT WE PUT IT ON FOURTH STREET. YOU MAY RECALL FOURTH STREET IS ALSO THE STREET THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED THE LIGHT RAIL COME IN AN EAST WEST DIRECTION THROUGH DOWNTOWN. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WILL HAPPEN, BUT WE CERTAINLY WOULD NOT WANT, WE DON'T BELIEVE, FOR BOTH LIGHT RAIL AND LANCE ARMSTRONG TO BE ON FORT STREET. SO FOURTH STREET WILL WORK FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. I THINK ULTIMATELY IF WE MOVE TOWARDS TWO-WAY STREETS, MORE TWO-WAY STREETS DOWNTOWN, IF WE'RE ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO DO THAT, THEN THERE WILL BE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE LANCE ARMSTRONG BIKEWAY ON ONE OF THOSE OTHER STREETS THAT BECOMES A TWO-WAY STREET.

WYNN: I SUGGEST THAT WE UPDATE OUR AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH THAT WE'RE USING, THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION NOW GOES ALL THE WAY TO FOURTH STREET. SOME PEOPLE LOOKING AT THIS WOULD SAY WHY NOT THIRD, AND IT JUST HELPS TO HAVE SORT OF AN UPDATED GRAPHICS SO PEOPLE CAN SEE SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS AS EXIST ON THE GROUND TODAY.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. WE'VE BEEN MAKING THIS PRESENTATION FOR A LONG TIME NOW. [LAUGHTER] THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION IS FOR A PIECE OF THIS SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS, IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE CBD, IT'S SOUTH OF TOWN LAKE, BUT IT'S AN AREA THAT IS VERY MUCH TIED INTO IN TERMS OF A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AND WE TOOK ON THE ISSUE OF TAKING A LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD CLOSE RIVERSIDE DRIVE AS IT PASSES FROM LAMAR TO SOUTH FIRST THROUGH TOWN LAKE PARK. TOWN LAKE PARK, OF COURSE, BEING THE PLACE THAT HAS THE NEW PALMER -- COMMUNITY EVENTS CENTER AND THE LONG CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS AND A NEW PARK THAT WILL TIE INTO AUDITORIUM SHORES. AND THE PLANNERS VERY MUCH WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE RIVERSIDE DRIVE SO THAT THERE IS A CONTINUOUS OPEN SPACE AREA FROM ONE END OF TOWN LAKE PARK TO TOWN LAKE ITSELF. WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT. WE HAVE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH THE TOWN LAKE PARK STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AND HAVE TRIED TO FIND A WAY THAT WE COULD DO THIS THAT WOULD NOT INCREASE THE CONGESTION BEYOND THE LIMITS THAT WE THINK ARE REASONABLE TO ACCEPT AT THIS POINT IN TIME FOR DOWNTOWN. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO LEAVE IT OPEN. WE FEEL THAT YOU CAN CLOSE RIVERSIDE TO TWO LANES IN PART OF THIS DISTANCE BETWEEN LAMAR AND SOUTH FIRST. AND IF YOU WERE TO DIVIDE RIVERSIDE INTO THIRDS, ROUGHLY, THE FIRST THIRD BEING FROM SOUTH FIRST TO THE EDGE OF WHERE THE COMMUNITY EVENTS CENTER ENTRANCE AREA IS, WE WOULD RECOMMEND AND HAVE TALKED WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT LEAVING THAT AS FOUR LANES. AND AT THE END OF THAT FIRST THIRD, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CONSTRUCT A TURN-AROUND, A KIND OF AN OVAL-SHAPED KIND OF CUL-DE-SAC AT THE END OF THAT FIRST THIRD WHERE BUSES, PRIVATE BUSES, SCHOOL BUSES CAN EASILY MAKE THE TURN WHERE THE RADIUS IS SUCH THAT THEY CAN DROP OFF AND LINE UP AND THEN TURN AND MOVE OUT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING NOW FOR THAT FIRST THIRD. THE NEXT PIECE IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY THEN TO LAMAR AND COME IN JUST PAST THE RAILROAD TRACKS WOULD BE ANOTHER THIRD OF THIS DISTANCE, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING WE LEAVE THAT AT FOUR LANES, BUT THAT A PORTION OF IT CAN BE USED OF THE SOUTH TWO LANES AS PARKING FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS AND FOR VISITING THE PARK. THAT LEAVES THEN THE MIDDLE THIRD OF THIS EXPANSE, AND THERE WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE REDUCE THAT TO TWO LANES, THE TWO NORTHERN LANES, AND THE SOUTHERN LANES THAT WE -- DEPENDING ON THE FUNDING RESOURCES THAT PARD AND TOWN LAKE PARK HAS, THEY EITHER CAN COVER THOSE UP WITH SOIL OR THEY CAN BREAK UP THAT CONCRETE. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO HELP OUT IN THE DIRECTION THAT THE STAKEHOLDERS WERE REALLY WANTING TO GO, WHICH IS CLOSE IT, BY REDUCING IT DOWN TO TWO LANES. AND I HAVE VISITED SEVERAL TIMES WITH THE CONSULTANT THAT IS WORKING ON THIS FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, ABOUT HOW THIS CAN BE CONFIGURED TO MAKE IT WORK AND WE'VE ALSO MET MANY TIMES WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS THEMSELVES. THERE ARE -- YOU COULD CLOSE IT, OBVIOUSLY. YOU COULD DO THAT, AND THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH REGARD TO THAT. WE'VE BEGUN TO LOOK AT HOW YOU MIGHT MITIGATE THE IMPACT THAT WE THINK WOULD RESULT, AND WE'VE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD, ONCE THE MODEL, THE DAMP MODEL IS IN-HOUSE AND WE HAVE IT AND STAFF CAN RUN IT, THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN POTENTIALLY MITIGATE FOR THE CONGESTION THAT WOULD RESULT OTHERWISE BY CLOSING RIVERSIDE. AND THERE ARE TWO OR THREE THINGS THAT THE STAKEHOLDERS HAVE ASKED US TO LOOK AT AND TWO OR THREE THINGS THAT I THINK WE CAN EXAMINE. I HAVE TO SAY AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME WE DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE PRODUCTIVE, BUT WE CERTAINLY WANT TO LOOK AT THEM AND GIVE THEM A FAIR SHOT AND TO SEE IF THERE ISN'T A MAYBE A FUTURE RECOMMENDATION AND POINT WE CAN MAKE TO COUNCIL TO CLOSE CERTAINLY THAT MIDDLE SECTION, THAT MIDDLE THIRD OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE. EXCUSE ME.

WYNN: ON THE -- IS THE LONG-TERM PLAN TO KEEP DAWSON OPEN FROM BARTON SPRINGS, NORTH RIVERSIDE?

GORDON DERR. THE CURRENT PHASE THAT SHOULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION BY THE END OF THIS YEAR WILL REMOVE DAWSON BETWEEN BARTON SPRINGS AND RIVERSIDE.

WYNN: SO THEN THE -- THE IDEA OF LEADING RIVERSIDE -- LEAVING RIVERSIDE AS IS ON THE WESTERN THIRD, APPROXIMATELY, I MEAN I GUESS WHAT'S THE RATIONALE? WHAT DOES IT -- YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES IT PICK UP AND WHAT DOES THE --

IT DOES SEVERAL THINGS. NUMBER ONE, IT GIVES US A CUEING DISTANCE FOR TRAFFIC DURING RUSH HOUR THAT DOES NEED TO EXIT ON TO LAMAR, SO WE HAVE TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC FOR THAT. AND THEN THAT STILL LEAVES SOME -- SOME LANE GOING IN THE EASTERN DIRECTION FOR TRAFFIC THAT WISHES TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. PLUS, IT GIVES US SOME ROOM, AS I INDICATED BEFORE, TO ALLOW TO SHUT DOWN SOME PORTION OF THAT AND CONVERT IT TO PARKING. SO YOU STILL HAVE THE LANES THERE, BUT THEY ARE CONVERTED TO BE USED FOR PARKING. SO IT'S MAINLY THE REASON IS TO IN THAT INSTANCE IS TO PROVIDE SPACE THAT IS NEEDED TO ALLOW CARS TO LINE UP AND CUE THAT ARE ENTERING AND EXITING.

WYNN: OKAY. THANKS. WITH REGARDS TO THE, YOU KNOW, QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT TO CLOSE RIVERSIDE COMPLETELY, HAVE WE DONE AN ANALYSIS THAT LOOKS AT, YOU KNOW, SOME SCENARIO WHERE IT'S ONLY OPEN ESSENTIALLY DURING RUSH HOUR, OR WHATEVER PEAK DEMAND WE BELIEVE IS ON RIVERSIDE? OR, I MEAN, DO WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HAVING IT OPEN, YOU KNOW, FOUR HOURS IN THE MORNING AND, YOU KNOW, THREE HOURS IN THE AFTERNOON OR SOMETHING?

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT THE -- WE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE NON-RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC PATTERN. THE MODEL THAT WE'VE USED IS ORIENTED TO MORNING AND EVENING RUSH HOUR, SO WE'VE FOCUSED ON THAT. AND IN THOSE INSTANCES HAVE FOUND THAT THE CONGESTION IS SUCH WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND CLOSING IT. HOWEVER, WE HAVE SAID EVEN WITHOUT LOOKING AT IT IN THE MODEL THAT YOU CERTAINLY, EVEN IF YOU LEFT IT OPEN, YOU COULD CLOSE IT ON WEEKENDS. WE DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH CLOSING IT ENTIRELY AS IS DONE IN CENTRAL PARK AND IN GOLDEN GATE PARK AND OTHER PARKS AROUND THE COUNTRY WHERE THEY CLOSE INTERNAL STREETS AND ALLOW SKATEBOARDERS AND ROLLER BLADERS AND FOLKS LIKE THAT TO USE THOSE STREETS DURING THOSE TIMES.

WYNN: AND CAN YOU TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT WHAT I INTUITIVELY BELIEVE MUST BE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE ISSUE AND THE DEBATE ABOUT CAESAR CHAVEZ BEING TWO WAY ITS ENTIRE LENGTH ACROSS DOWNTOWN AND RIVERSIDE? I MEAN THAT IS -- IT SEEMS TO ME FROM A MODELING STANDPOINT THERE IS SOME [INAUDIBLE] BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THAT DEBATE ABOUT HOW ROUGHER SIDE CAN BENEFIT SEES R CHAVEZ OR VICE VERSA.

FROM LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS AND THE COUNTS AND THE MODELING, THE RIVERSIDE PRIMARILY SERVES THROUGH TASK. CAESAR CHAVEZ HAS A COMPONENT OF THROUGH TASK, BUT A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON CAESAR CHAVEZ HAS DESTINATIONS IN LOWER DOWNTOWN. SO THE THROUGH TRAFFIC ISSUE COMES UP WITH BOTH CAESAR CHAVEZ AND RIVERSIDE, AND ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT AUSTIN WILL TALK ABOUT IN A FEW MINUTES IS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT LONGER TERM STUDY. IT'S JUST THAT WITHIN THE NEAR-TERM FOCUS OF THIS STUDY THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY SOLUTIONS THAT WILL -- WE COULD COME UP WITH WHICH COULD DEAL WITH THAT THROUGH-TRAFFIC ISSUE.

THAT CONCLUDES THE 15 SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS -- PARDON ME -- 15 SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING AT THIS TIME FOR THE NEAR TERM. WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE MORE IN THE NATURE OF CONTINUED STUDIES AND POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS I WOULD LIKE THE REVIEW WITH YOU. FIRST, WE THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA NOW THAT WE HAVE THE DAMP MODEL, HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS AND SPENT THE MONEY TO CONSTRUCT IT FOR THE CBD THAT WE USE OUT A REGULAR BASIS AND THAT WE REVISIT THESE ISSUES IN DOWNTOWN LOOKING AT THE NEXT NEAR-TERM PERIOD, THE FIVE YEARS AFTER THE PERIOD WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT. AND THAT WE LOOK AT IT POTENTIALLY IN THE -- IN ADVANCE OF THE NEXT OR SERIES OF CRIP ISCUSSIONS BEFORE THE NEXT BOND ELECTION TO DETERMINE WHAT MIGHT BE NEEDED AND COULD BE CONSIDERED IN ADDITION FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. OUR RECOMMENDATION THERE IS TO KEEP THE COURSEEN MODEL AND KEEP IT AND USE IT ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE ALSO HAVE -- HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT PARKING, BOTH ON STREET AND OFF STREET, AND WE BELIEVE, HAVING NOW VISITED A NUMBER OF THE STAKEHOLDERS DOWNTOWN THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE OUGHT TO DO IS TO HAVE A -- SORT OF A STAFF LEVEL, IF YOU WILL, COMMITTEE THAT LOOKS AT DOWNTOWN PARKING ISSUES. SPECIFICALLY LOOKS AT DEVELOPING SOME PROTOCOLS FOR WHEN AND UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS WE HAVE LOADING ZONES, VALET PARKING ISSUES AND TAXI ZONES AND THE LIKE. TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON THOSE PROTOCOLS AND MINIMIZE WHAT MIGHT BE A SURPLUS OF SOME OF THOSE ZONES, WE CAN ADD MORE PARKING, ON-STREET PARKING BACK INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO VISIT THOSE WITH THOSE -- VISIT THOSE ISSUES WITH THOSE APPROPRIATE STAKEHOLDERS AND BEGIN TO IDENTIFY THE POSSIBILITIES THERE. WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT PARKING METER RATES THEMSELVES HAVE TO DO WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF PARKING DOWNTOWN. THAT IS, PARKING -- THE AMOUNT OF PARKING AND THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT YOU ALLOW PARKING TO BE AT A PARTICULAR METER AFFECTS THE AMOUNT OF TURNOVER THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE AT THESE METERS, AND THEREFORE THE NUMBER OF PATRONS THAT A BUSINESS OR BUSINESSES WILL HAVE DOWNTOWN. SO WE'RE WANTING, AGAIN, WITH PERHAPS THIS SAME GROUP, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ISSUE. WE HAVE CONVERTED -- I FORGET NOW, FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO WE CONVERTED MOSTLY TO FIVE-HOUR METERS. WE HAVE SOME TWO-HOUR METERS, BUT THERE ARE MANY CITIES IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE DIFFERENT -- WHERE IT'S MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAN OR THEY HAVE LOOKED AT IT MORE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS AND THE NEED TO TURN OVER THE POPULATION THAT IS PARKING AT THOSE -- AS ANOTHER WAY TO ACHIEVE MORE PARKING WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING MORE PARKING SPACES. WE HAVE AS A RESULT OF OUR SYSTEM, I THINK, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PARKING ALL DAY LONG WHO PERHAPS SHOULD BE PARKING OFF STREET IN A PARKING GARAGE AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, FREEING UP THOSE SPACES FOR SHOPPERS TO WHO WOULD BE IN OR OUT WITHIN AN HOUR OR TWO-HOUR PERIOD. WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT ISSUE. AND THERE'S THE ISSUE OF PRICING. THIS HAS COME UP RECENTLY WITH RESPECT TO OUR OWN BUDGET IN THAT OUR -- THE RATES WE CHARGE FOR PARKING DOWNTOWN ARE 75 CENTS AN HOUR. THE RATE THAT THE STATE CHARGES, AND THEIR METERS GO ALL THE WAY TO TENTH STREET FROM THE NORTH, THEY CHARGE A DOLLAR. SO THERE IS A DISPARITY THERE AND THERE IS, PERHAPS, A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF INCOME THAT COULD BE ACHIEVED BY INCREASING THE RATES. OF COURSE, THERE ARE ISSUES, AGAIN, WITH THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY AND THE MERCHANTS WITH REGARD TO THAT AND WHETHER THAT'S APPROPRIATE AND TO WHAT DEGREE THE FUNDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THE CITY AND ITS NEEDS VERSUS SPECIFICALLY DOWNTOWN AND GREAT STREETS NEEDS. SO WE'RE WANTING TO LOOK AT THOSE AND ARE PROPOSING WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE KINDS OF RECOMMENDATIONS. WE ALSO ARE WANTING TO PROCEED WITH THE GREAT STREETS STREETSCAPE STANDARDS. A LOT OF WORK, I THINK MOST OF THE WORK IN THE MASTER PLAN HAS TO DO WITH STREET STANDARDS THEMSELVES. HERE YOU HAVE DEPICTION OF A COUPLE OF THOSE STANDARDS T SPACING OF STREET LIGHTS, THE SPACING OF TREES, THE KIND OF STREET LIGHTS WE'RE RECOMMENDING A DIFFERENT KIND OF STREET LIGHT DOWNTOWN THAT ALSO HAS -- ON THE SAME STANDARD ON THE STREET LIGHT WOULD BE A LIGHT FOR PEDESTRIANS FOR THE SIDEWALK. SO THAT, AGAIN, MAKING DOWNTOWN MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. AND TRYING TO REDUCE A LITTLE BIT OF CLUTTER THAT IS DOWNTOWN WITH SOME OF THESE STREET STANDARDS. THESE ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE. WE HAVEN'T TAKEN THESE TO THE STAKEHOLDER COMMUNITY AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN FINISHED WORKING THESE THROUGH WITH OUR OWN INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS, BUT WE FEEL LIKE THAT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FROM -- TO TAKE FROM THE GREAT STREETS MASTER PLAN AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A POSSIBLE CHANGE TO DOWNTOWN WITH REGARD TO THE PARKING METERS IS TO POTENTIALLY MOVE TO A CENTRALIZED PARKING PAY STATION WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE ONE PAY STATION PER BLOCK. THIS WOULD ALLOW YOU TO HAVE MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED PARKING STATIONS THAT CAN TAKE CREDIT CARDS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. PLUS, IT WOULD REDUCE OUR COST FOR MAINTENANCE AND COST FOR SERVICING AND COLLECTING MONEY FROM THESE METERS. SO THERE IS A BENEFIT TO THE CITY. THE DOWNSIDE OF COURSE IS THAT IT'S A LITTLE BEST CONVENIENT FOR THE SHOPPERS IN THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE PARKING STATION, GET A TAG OF SOME SORT AND COME BACK AND PUT IT IN THEIR CAR. WE ALSO ARE WORKING ON A NEW STREET AND TREE PLANTING SPECIES -- AND SPECIES DETAILS. WE REALLY HAVEN'T FOCUSED ON THAT VERY MUCH IN THE PAST IN AUSTIN. THE DOWNTOWN HASN'T REALLY BEEN ENOUGH ROOM FOR TREES. AND NOW THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, OF COURSE IT RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT, WELL, WHAT WOULD BE UNDERNEATH THE TREE AND WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT ALL OF THE STUFF THAT'S IN THE STREET. AND SO THIS HAS RAISED A VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY NECESSARY SET OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW TO ORGANIZE DOWNTOWN STREETS BETTER AND MORE EFFICIENTLY IN TERMS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BOTH ABOVE AND BELOW THE SURFACE. AGAIN, ANOTHER EXAMPLE HERE IS WE'VE LOOKED AT VARIOUS KINDS OF STREET FURNISHINGS THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE IN DOWNTOWN. PERHAPS KIOSKS. WE'RE WORKING WITH SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT ON -- ON COLLECTION VEHICLES, WASTE BINS, DIFFERENT BIKE RACKS OR A STANDARDIZED BIKE RACK FOR DOWNTOWN AND SOME STANDARDIZED BENCHES. AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION OF THE SLIDES. I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE CONCERNING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

ALVAREZ: JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FIRST PHASE OF THE -- THE DOWNTOWN STREETS CONVERSIONS WOULD BE, WE'RE LOOKING AT BRAZOS AND COLORADO AND EIGHTH AND NINTH OR --

NINTH AND TENTH.

ALVAREZ: NINTH AND TENTH. SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST DEMONSTRATION, I GUESS, TO SEE HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK.

OF THE --

ALVAREZ: FROM ONE-WAY TO TWO-WAY CONVERSION.

WITH ONE EXCEPTION, AND THAT IS THAT WE WOULD ALSO CONVERT SECOND STREET TO TWO WAY. WE WOULD STILL KEEP A ONE-WAY PAIR, BUT THEN WOULD BE FIRST AND THIRD.

ALVAREZ: FIRST AND THIRD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS.

WYNN: CAN WE ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT, AUSTIN, ON THE TIMING OF SOME OF THIS STUFF? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOUR FUNDING SOURCE ANALYSIS, IT IMPLIES THAT SOME OF THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR, FIVE-YEAR PROJECTS. I MEAN REALISTICALLY, IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL, WHEN DOES SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS START TO BE MADE?

THERE ARE SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, OF COURSE, THAT ARE TIED TO OTHERS IN THE SENSE THAT IF YOU -- IF YOU TRY SOMETHING LIKE CONVERTING A ONE WAY TO TWO WAY, WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ALL THE THINKING ON THIS, HOW THAT AFFECTS THE LIMITATION ON LEFT-HURN TURN LANES. SO THERE ARE SYNERGIES WE HAVE TO THINK THROUGH ABOUT HOW WE TIME EACH OF THESE. BUT I THINK BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING SIMPLY ISN'T ALL AVAILABLE RIGHT UP FRONT IN THE FIRST YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE SOME TIME TO DO THIS, ASSUMING THE FUNDING CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE OVER A THREE OR FOUR-YEAR PERIOD. AND I THINK THAT, AS I INDICATED EARLIER, I THINK WE WOULD DO TWO SETS OF ONE-WAY CONVERSION. FIRST, IT WOULD TAKE US SOME TIME, PERHAPS A YEAR, TO DO -- SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR TO DO THE ENGINEERING AND ORDER THE EQUIPMENT AND THAT SORT OF THING, AND THEN ANOTHER PERIOD OF TIME TO IMPLEMENT THAT. IN THE CASE OF BRAZOS AND COLORADO, IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO DO THAT FIRST; HOWEVER, WE ALSO WANT TO WAIT ON CAP CAP TO MAKECAPITAL METRO TO MAKE SURE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH REGARD TO BUS ROUTES. THERE WILL BE SOME DELAY, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG THAT WILL BE, WAITING FOR THEM TO GIVE US A GOOD SENSE THAT THEY ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD. ON SOME OF THE OTHERS, I THINK IF COUNCIL APPROVES THE 2002 QUARTER CENT FUNDS AND CAPITAL METRO APPROVES THOSE FUNDS, THEN I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO START SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS. THE ORDER IN WHICH I WENT THROUGH THE PROJECTS WAS BASICALLY THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY WOULD BE DONE. WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS. BUT WE WOULD, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK BE ABLE TO TO DO THE TEST ON LAR MA OF THEON LAMAR, IT'S BASICALLY PAINTING SIGNS. THE LAST ONE I THINK WAS WEST STREET OR THIRD STREET, RATHER, FROM -- AND THE MOVING THAT OR PAYING FOR THAT AND THEN MOVING THAT STREET THROUGH. AND I THINK THAT IS ONE THAT CAN -- IS NOT NECESSARY TO HAVE DONE IMMEDIATELY OR VERY QUICKLY EVEN FOR THE SEE HOME MASTER PLAN EVEN AS THAT'S MOVING FORWARD. LITTLE SOMETHING I THINK IS NEEDED BUT COULD COME AT THE END OF THE PROCESS. SO YOU HAVE A HIERARCHY IN TERMS OF TIMING AND FUNDING. I THINK THE NEXT THING WE WOULD DO AFTER -- ONE OF THE NEXT THINGS WE WOULD DO IF COUNCIL GIVES US THE GREEN LIGHT TO GO FORWARD WITH THESE IS TO SORT OF TURN UP THE MICROSCOPE AND LOOK MORE CAREFULLY AS WE BEGIN TO DO PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING ON SOME OF THESE AT THE TIMING ISSUES THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND WHEN SPECIFICALLY COULD THINGS GET DONE AND HOW WOULD THEY FOLD INTO THE WORK THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS DOING, FOR EXAMPLE, ON RECONSTRUCTION OF DOWNTOWN STREETS. SO THAT WE MARRY THEIR NEEDS AND OUR NEEDS SO THAT THIS WORK GETS DONE AND WE TEAR UP THE STREETS ONLY ONCE.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THE END OF THE BRIEFING? THEN I SAY WE CALL A HALT TO OUR UNOFFICIAL BRIEFING HERE. THANK YOU.