Closed Caption Log, Council Meeting. 3/5/2009
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good morning, I'm austin mayor will wynn, I'm my privilege to welcome
rabbi neil blumofe, congregation agudas achim to lead us in our
invocation, please rise, rabbi? Honorable mayor, distinguished
councilmembers, guests, let us pray. Let us accept the challenges that
are before us with grace and dignity. That we find it necessary to rise
above our more coarse nature as we serve diverse constituencies and
guide our districts and our beloved city. May we hold on to the firm
example of those whom we admire. And let us constantly appreciate the
responsibility that rests in this chamber. Let us not become numb to
tothe majesty of humane life as we struggle with numbers of our budget
and as we allocate our resources, let us all participate in necessary
sacrifice, but let us act as superlative stewards of the opinion's
trust. Oh, god let us cultivate compassion and let us model kindness and
concern as we ensure the fewer of our community. We ask for blessing and
insight of our elected leaders and their families. We request for them
visionary ways, patience and diligence. May the strengths of our
traditions bring us together, past fear and simple curiosity. Let us be
bound by our common wheel, not casting judgment on our nature and
casting judgment on our neighbors. May we rededicate ourselves to the
liberty by virtue of our actions, recognizing that all moments in our
lives are fleeting, yet our reputation rests on our nobility in crisis.
Let us honor the timeless words of great faiths. ]Speaking hebrew]
the day is short, and the task is very great. And while we are not
obliged and obligated to finish the work, neither can we turn from it.
Give us strength, amen.
Thank you, rabbi, many of us of course have known neil as kantor all
of these years, so congratulations on the new title, rabbi. There being
a quorum present at this time I will call to order this meeting of the
austin city council. 20 , we're here in the city council chambers, 301
west second street. Council, before I walk through very briefly changes
and corrections to this week's posted agenda, we try to take this
opportunity each week or each meeting to -- to alert staff, our
colleagues, citizens to potential initiatives or items from council that
may be forthcoming over the next month or so. At this time I will -- i
will welcome any comments about upcoming items. Councilmember martinez?
Martinez: Tha mayor. Councilmember morrison and i, really our staff
members and a lot of stakeholders in the community have been working on
finalizing the live music task force recommendations. And so we are this
close to -- to complete agreement on this. So -- so hopefully by
tomorrow we will have that complete agreement and post an item for next
week to come back for -- for the final recommendations from the live
music task force.
Thank you, councilmember, further potential items? Hearing none, if
not, i would like to read through briefly our changes and corrections to
this week's posted agenda. The agenda I would characterize as being
relatively light. Good to see such few changes and also a very light
executive session agenda. So our changes we should note that items 26,
27, 28 and 49 are all related. We should note that on item 38, the
central austin combined neighborhood planning area, it should read that
the first reading for track 10 was approved on FEBRUARY 26th, 2009, ON A
6-0 Vote with the mayor off the dais at the time. 42, that -- the zoning
case involving mr. David we should note a valid petition has been filed
in opposition to that zoning request. Our calendar today here once we
get through our consent agenda, I think there's likely going to be a few
discussion items late this morning. Likely will then take us to our noon
general citizens communication. We probably will have a brief executive
session or closed session agenda early in the afternoon. So there be
sometime after we can take up our afternoon briefings, staff briefings.
The first is a briefing on our neighborhood housing and community
development's austin housing market study. Then the second is the austin
city council agenda process briefing. we start our zoning matters and
public hearings. 30, as always, we break for live music and
proclamations, stay tuned for rattletree marimba, our musical group and
noting -- looking at the -- at the setup already, it might be a lively
performance here. , we start our public hearings for the evening. So,
council, so far, only three items have been pulled off our consent
agenda. 4, which is a service extension request known acetone ridge is
pulled because we have six speakers that would like to give us testimony
about item 4, we will take it up as soon as we conclude our consent
agenda. Stone ridge. 10 related to the resolution approving the
legitimate of our board walk trail at lady bird, I have pulled off the
consent agenda, we have a number of speakers that would like to give us
testimony on that item. 16, The contract execution with gemini solar for
the large solar array in webberville. So far items 4, 10, 16 pulled off
the consent agenda. Any additional items to be pulled before I proposed
the consent agenda? Hearing none, then our proposed consent agenda this
morning will be to approve item 1, which are the minutes of our february
26th 2009 MEETING. Austin energy approving items 2 and 3. From our
contract and land management department, approving items 5 and 6. From
our health and human services, approving items 7 and 8. From our
management services department, approving item 9. From our police
department, approving items 11 and 12. From our public works department,
approving items 13 and 14. From our purchasing office, approving item
15, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, and 25. From our transportation
department, approving item 26, 27, and 28. Item 29, our board and
economics appointments that I will read into the record, we just have
one nomination. That is to the travis county health care district board
of managers, rudy -- rosy mendoza, sorry, rosy mendoza is our nominated
reappointment for the travis county health care district board. 29 on
our consent agenda. We will also be approving item 30. We will be
setting the public hearing by approving item 31, then finally we will be
approving our 49 as part of our consent agenda. I'll entertain a motion
on that proposed co agenda. Motion made by councilmember morrison,
seconded by councilmember cole to approve the consent agenda as
proposed. Council, before I ask for council comments on our proposed
consent agenda, we do have a handful of citizens that would like to give
us testimony on some of these items that are on the -- on our consent
agenda. 2, which is an austin energy solar rebate for the austin travis
county mhmr center, I see carey ferchill, sorry if i mispronounced that
carey wishing to give us testimony. Come forward at this time. You can
use either podium. You will have three minutes.
Won't take three minutes. My name is carey ferchill the chairman of
solar austin. We support the project. We've -- we've spent some time
reviewing the proposal and we want to applaud austin energy for the work
they have put into it. And we hope this is the beginning of -- of
further consideration of alternative renewable energy projects.
Mayor Wynn: Great, thank you, mr. ferchill. It's always rewarding to
see -- you know, our austin energy solar rebate program is open to all
folks, both individual, single family homeowners as well as even large
businesses, also frankly additionally rewarding when we see somebody
like our mhmr center take advantage of that program. And get a
significant rebate for the installation of solar panels. We have
schools, non-profits. We have the faith community taking advantage of
this program. Just like we have individual homeowners and businesses,
it's always very encouraging to see that. Thanks for your comments,
carey. On items 11 and 12, the austin police department is accepting
grants through the -- through the state. For different programs, mr. Gus
pena signed up wishing to give us testimony on these two grant items.
Welcome, gus, you, too, will have three minutes.
Good morning, mayor, gus pena. The -- the information that is being
passed around is the stimulus package that's being proposed by --
accepted by the governor's office, I'm going to talk about that in
citizens communication. But number one I want to talk about item 11.
It's a good projectment back in 1994 we brought in the united states
attorney's office and the federal organized crime unit to combat
involvement in gangs here in austin. And it was very effective with the
special agent byron sage and special agent
[indiscernible] former agents now spearheading the effort. , also. 11,
prevention and education of gang involvement is very important to the
kids out there. You all know, I'm going to be honest with all of y'all
here, the youth, the homies are watching me here and also at the county
commissioners court. They are observing everything that I say and
everything that I do. So I don't care, I just want them to know that
their participation in this illegal and inappropriate involvement and
activities is not acceptable. I'm not scared of anybody, you know, I'm a
former federal investigation myself. The issue is this, that -- that
evaluate this program and see who is being targeted for involvement in
this program. See if there is effectiveness in the certain youth target
ages, areas. If this program is truly effective, expand the programs and
we need to guide and educate our youth to enter society as productive
members of society and not into the juvenile justice system. It's very
key and critical. We have been working with the youth for many years.
I'm not here to toot my horn, I don't care about that. The issue is to
save the kids, keep them from getting involved in inappropriate
activity. 12, very supportive, we have been working with our youth to
educate and prevent violence against anybody, specifically women,
including spousal abuse, child abuse and senior citizens abuse. These
two items are very important, if possible ask that they expand and ask
for more funding. It's very critical in today's society to keep the kids
out of everyday involvement. Thank you very much for that, I applaud the
city of austin. Mayor, your leadership, mr. Ott your leadership, also,
on all of the issues, look forward to talking with you all at other
issues on citizens communication, thank you very much for this.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, mr. pena. Council, I believe that concludes
all of our citizen testimony on items that are on our consent agenda.
Again, we have a number of folks to give us testimony on items 4, 10 and
16 here later this morning. So I would like to open it up for potential
council comments on our proposed consent agenda. Councilmember leffingwell?
Leffingwell: On 29, just a comment. Rosy mendoza was recommended by
the subcommittee for public health and human services to the nominee for
the travis county health district. There's one other nominee to go, that
will be a joint city and county appointee and a joint city county group
of people -- a group has been convened to come up with a nominee for
that appointment. That will also have to be approved by both the city
and the county, it will be coming shortly.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, councilmember. Further council comments on our
proposed consent agenda? Hearing none, again we have a motion and a
second on the table to -- approving the consent agenda as proposed. That
being all items on our agenda this morning excepting items 4, 10 and 16.
Further comments? Hearing none, all those in favor please say aye.
Aye.
Wynn: Opposed? Motion passes on a vote of 7-0. Thank you all very
much. While a few folks exit the 4 from our water utility is regarding
the potential approval of an scr, service extension request, ser,
commonly referred to as stoneridge property. We have a number of folks,
six or seven folks signed up wishing to testimony. So perhaps our -- I
don't know if our director or acm might could give us a brief
explanation of this ser request to set the stage before we take citizen
testimony. Greg, welcome.
Thank you, mayor, greg
[indiscernible] austin water. This is a service extension request to
extend an 8-inch sewer line approximately 600 feet to serve a property
that would have a -- about 14 homes. What makes this unique is, one,
it's in the drinking water protection zone, but also a part of the
robert e. Lee resolution consensus report that the city council adopted
in the late 1990s. The consensus report really spelled out areas that
the utility would serve with centralized service, what areas that would
be recommended to be served with decentralized service in the areas that
the utility would not serve. This particular track is in the area that's
been designated as only decentralized sewer service, not centralized
sewer service. Because of that staff recommended do not approve on the
ser because council adopted this consensus report and we've really
followed it in terms of boundaries of service for our sewer utility over
about the last 10 years. That's kind of a quick snapshot. There's a lot
more detail to consensus report. But that's the essence of the request
today.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, greg. Again, just a quick summary. Staff
recommends denial. Is this also -- has this gone before the water and
wastewater commission.
It went through two commissions, environmental board recommended do
not approve. Our water and wastewater board had no recommendation. The
vote was really split with some against, some abstaining and some for.
So it comes to you with no recommendation from the water and wastewater
and a do not approve recommendation from the environmental.
Mayor Wynn: Great, thank you, greg, questions of staff, council,
before we hear from the citizens testimony? Thanks, greg. So, council,
then without objection, we'll go to our citizen testimony. We will just
take them in the order that I believe they signed up. Our first speaker
is jim robinson, welcome. You will have three minutes to be followed by
sheryl robinson.
Thank you very much, I'm jim robinson representing three neighborhood
associations along stoneridge road. You will have to excuse me, I don't
have much experience here in front of the city council. But thank you
very much for each one of you guys have been very responsive to my
neighbors and myself in speaking to us personally. And on the telephone.
And I think whatever happens today we've had our voice heard and I
really appreciate that. The gentleman before me really summed it up.
It's a sewer line allows mary leitin a lady living on our street to
develop her lot into 14 houses. We have two problems with this. lee
relief interceptor study, voted unanimously against that, the wastewater
commission actually only had one positive vote that was for that and the
rest either were against or abstained. I think one of the speakers
following me who is for aeryan he's going to tell you all of these
reasons why we shouldn't follow that study. He will have to enumerate
those, but I want you to keep in mind he was one of the signatories on
that study 10 years ago. I guess he's pointing his gun in a different
direction today. The last reason that we don't support this is -- is 14
houses in this area that she's developing is a very dense development.
Our neighborhood is -- is essentially a one house per one acre
development and the infrastructure of our neighborhood does not support
this dense development. The good news is if you vote against this, it
really doesn't hurt anyone. leiden is an elderly woman, she can develop
this in -- [indiscernible] thank you very much. I don't think we have
any other speakers from the neighborhood. Great, thank you, jim. We do
have a few folks signed up at least telling us they wanted to speak.
Sheryl robinson. Okay. We will note your opposition as well, sheryl.
Let's see our next person signed up was martha gerrin. So we will note
your opposition as well. Martha. How about brian
[indiscernible]?
Okay. We will note brian's opposition for the record as well. Then
finally gary kyle signed up wishing to speak. Also in opposition. And
for the record, we have a number of folks who signed up not wishing to
speak, literally dozens, and we gentry for the record as well. Finally,
terry eryan has signed up wishing to speak, I believe in favor. Welcome,
you, too, will have three minutes.
Good morning, mayor, members of the council, I am representing mary
leiden, an will 8-year-old woman who has lived close to 50 years on this
property. This property was annexed for limited purposes back in 1983.
And as -- it's -- it's come in as sf 2. robison said, the densities are
kind of mixed in this area. Out of the original parent track of 100
acres that went from walsh tarlton to 360 along stoneridge, there's a
rudy's barbecue on one end, 65,000 square foot office complex, there's a
five acre tract just across the street on the north side of stoneridge
that's developed at sf 2 density, to the leiden's track on tarlton lane,
there's a development there at sf 2 density, so the densities are mixed.
The applicant is requesting that they be allowed service. We prefer
sewer service, but even decentralized service that would allow
development to the sf 2 density. I was a member of the robert lee
consensus building group that made the recommendations and I can tell
you that what the recommendation said with respect to this property was
at the time 11 years ago the utility had constraints in its lift
stations. It wasn't able to provide collective sewer service. The
utility now acknowledges that it does have the capacity to serve. The
prohibition in that report was no additional commercial service along
loop 360 and west of loop 360. What it said for this area was we
encourage the exploration of decentralized service strategies. Utility
has been doing that for 11 years. We haven't gotten any yet. But even if
you were to do that. We would think that this property ought to be in
line for that. But as -- as it was stated by the environment -- but the
watershed protection department at the environmental board, but for this
resolution they would be recommended this. And they would be recommended
it because collective sewer would be environmentally -- environmentally
-- a better alternative than -- than a decentralized system. I -- I do
want to point out that this property is in -- is in the eanes creek
watershed. It is not in the barton springs zone. And it will be
developed under current ordinance requirements. So there will be
environmental safeguards. The application was up to 14 lue's, that
wouldn't happen anyway by the time there was compliance with all of the
watershed requirements it would likely be more in the nine or 10 unit
category.
[Buzzer sounding] for all of those reasons and because this property has
been a limited purpose zoning for 26 years at sf 2, we do request that
the city may ma this service available so that we can develop the
property consistent with the way that the city that zoned it for the
last quarter century. Thank you.
Thank you, mr. eryan. Questions, council? Thank you, terry. So,
council, I believe that's all of our citizen testimony on this item no.
4. Further questions of staff? Or anybody? Comments? Motions?
Councilmember leffingwell?
Leffingwell: Mayor, I'm going to move to adopt the staff
recommendation and deny the ser based on the resolution of 1990
something. Until those boundaries are changed, I believe it would be
inappropriate for council to make a decision to disregard the resolution
and approve the ser.
Mayor Wynn: We have a motion by councilmember leffingwell, seconded
by councilmember morrison to approve staff recommendation there be not
approving this ser, item no. 4. Further comments? Hearing none, all
those in favor please say aye.
Aye.
Wynn: Opposed? Motion passes on a vote of 7-0. Thank you all. So,
council, let's see, that takes us now to item no. 10. 10 is a resolution
approving the alignment of the board walk trail at lady bird lake as a
preliminary concept for purposes of beginning planning and design phase
of this project. I think -- I think perhaps our -- our stuart strong is
here to give us a brief presentation to -- to sort of put it in
perspective. Then we have a number of folks who want to give us
testimony both in favor and opposition to this resolution. Welcome, mr.
strong.
Good morning, mayor and council. City manager. I'm stuart strong
assistant manager of the director of the parks and recreation
department. Our objective is to close 2-mile gap in the lady bird lake
trail which you find on the south side, the middle of which is roughly
i-35. This has been an effort by the community for over 10 years. In
2007 the trail foundation produced investment studies showing the
advantages of completing the trail. We received your approval in the
2008 budget to start the 7 million, we are in the middle of that. You
approved the hiring of a consultants. They have been working with the
community. We spent the summer working with the stakeholders, anyone
that wanted to come and comment on the potential for this trail and the
design. We now have a preliminary routing, parks board has looked at that,
[indiscernible] facilities committee has, it's gone to the joint
committee of the environmental board and parks board. And they recommend
this project. As you remember on the 12th, I GAVE YOU A Brief briefing
on the alignment. We are recommending a specific alignment to you. And
we go to the -- the second slide, summarizes that presentation for you.
In this picture, what you see is the alignment that we recommend. We
have attempted to keep much of the trail on the land as possible.
Roughly half of it would need to be out in the water on a board walk. At
this point, what we're asking is your endorsement of the recommended
route. From here on, what we would do is continue design working with
the stakeholders and landowners to -- to maximize the amount of the
trail, which is on land. We will of course come to full compliance with
the environmental requirements by the city, state and the federal
government. And the funding to construct the -- the board walk will be a
future action by council. That's my presentation.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, sir, questions for mr. Strong? Councilmember
martinez?
Stuart, maybe you mentioned this and I missed it. What did we -- what
was the amount we originally dedicated from proceeds of block 21?
Just short of two and a half million. 95 in that fund, 50% went to
the construction of the board walk. So just short of $2.5 million.
Martinez: That's just for the design.
That's for construction. You approved 1.7 for design. We have that,
we are spending that now. But we have your allocation 5, which is the
wait for the rest of the construction money.
Martinez: What was the estimated cost of the complete buildout?
Right now we are estimating a high of $15 million.
Martinez: So -- so we really aren't -- when we vote today, I just
want to make sure that folks understand, we are not voting to build this --
that's correct. This is only the design portion. We will have to come
back for your concurrence on funding to build it. We are not doing that
today.
Martinez: Thanks, mayor.
Mayor Wynn: That just points out, before we hear from some citizens,
so again stuart and the councilmember points out, this next step is the
design, additional design and planning step that will allow us as a
community to answer a bunch of very appropriate questions. What will it
look like, what will be the materials, what would be the elevation. So
the important stuff certainly as we then think about the future of
funding the actual hard construction costs. Meanwhile, technically, this
resolution also instructs staff to continue the important dialogue that
has been ongoing really for at least two years of the investment study
so not only continuing to talk to stakeholder but, you know, frankly
very specifically talk tonant property owners because -- adjacent
property owners because there's privately owned land as we all know
along this route and essentially for every foot that this trail is on
land and not in the water, it saves us about 2500. The cost of a board
walk out in the water is about $2,500 per lineal foot. So to the extent
that you can get a couple hundred feet donated to you, some type of
agreement by an adjacent private property owner or a group, it not only
probably improves the trail itself, significantly saves, you know,
future money. But in the meantime, I think it's very important that we
continue with the next planning and design step for us to have answers
for very specific questions about material design elevation, et cetera.
So -- so thank you for that clarification, stuart and councilmember.
Again, sorry, further questions of staff before we take up citizen
testimony? I imagine this will probably inspire a few more questions of
staff here in a few minutes. Thank you, stuart. So again council we have
a -- a bunch of folks signed up on this item. Luckily not all of them
want to speak. In specific numbers 47 folks signed up in favor, 24 folks
against and a subset of those two groups do want to give us some
testimony. As opposed to a zoning case where we hear from folks in
opposition or folks in favor, you know, as they -- as a group, without
objection I will just take these in the order with which folks signed up
wishing to speak and their -- their position is sort of irrelevant. To
the sweeps. I think that we have -- to the sequence. I think that we
have about 18 folks who currently have signed up wishing to speak and so
if everybody does speak, we have -- we have a solid hour and a half or
so worth of testimony, we will see if that's all required. Our first
lindsay davis wishing to give us testimony. Remind me when I call
shelly's name up, we will donate your time to her. We will still put
this in sequence. Lawton smith. Is mr. smith here in? Well, okay, when I
call somebody's name and you want to give testimony or donate time,
please just remind me. Frederick kibler, welcome, you are welcome to
give us testimony. Either podium. You will have three minutes followed
by fred schmidt.
Thank you mayor and council. I'm also known as rick kibbler, so
lawton's time is going to me which doesn't appear I'm going to need. I'm
speaking first as an owner, I'm an owner and an hoa board member. As an
owner of the river rock community the building of the board walk across
the lakeside will greatly deteriorate and destroy the view of the river
walk condominiums, the environmental impact will be considerable. There
are migrator waterfowl that rest at the waterfront. Based on the current
economic conditions and current city departmental reductions this is not
the time to be committing resources on recreational luxuries at the
taxpayers' expense while possibly jeopardizing the safety of the general
populace. Based on these conditions i would like the council to continue
to consider the alternative route, one that continues along the existing
riverside trail, riverside drive with the opportunities for improving
the trail that the river walk community could afford. At a tremendous
cost savings to the city and possibly a temporary resolution for an on
land trail. As an hoa board member, i appreciate the opportunities that
david taylor and his team has afforded the community. And in the design
of the trail and in good faith plan to continue further negotiations.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Mayor Wynn: Great, thank you, greg and for your continued time.
Involvement. Let's see, fred schmidt signed up, welcome, fred. Let's see
eric fisher wanted to donate time to you. Is eric here? Our -- I ask
fred because our rules are that you need to be present in the chambers
in which to donate time. How about john irsskin, welcome. Fred you have
up to six minutes.
I don't need that much.
Followed by nancy redding.
Thank you. mayor, councilmembers, thank you very much for hearing us
this morning. I'm not quite as well organized as I usually like to be
with my presentation to you. If you have seen the business section of
today's paper, in my real job I'm also trying to bring and keep real
work here in austin with new jobs and a new game company we're trying to
get going here in town. In my public service hat I'm here on behalf of
don't pave our lake. My name is fred schmidt. I'm a trail user and a
kayaker. Here's my simple position don't pave our lake. For reasons I
don't understand you all are not listening, I will have to address my
comments over your head to the communities at large. Forgive me rabbi
while i raise my voice. Wake up austin! This project is neither a board
walk nor a trail. At 14 feet wide, 6 feet above the water, 30 feet out
from shore, made of concrete planks on concrete pilings with steel rails
it is an elevated concrete human highway. More so, it is intended now as
a bicycle super roadway. Instead of using the same eight to 10-foot
widths of the existing land trail, which all of us users happily enjoy
every day, you have imposed a federal guideline of 14 feet intended for
bike lanes along roadways. Right now bikes are permitted on the town
lake trail but they are the users with the least right-of-way. The
overwhelming majority of trail users are pedestrians and runners. Due to
this one reason only, there are sections of the trail extension that
could go on land where it belongs that you are forcing out over the
water. It is the same standard or if this same standard is applied to
the rest of the existing trail, which it then will logically have to be,
our beautiful river should expect to be assaulted by even more board
walks popping up around the austin american-statesman, and also the
entire stretch in front of the hyatt regency hotel between congress and
first street bridges. And we, the majority walking, running user of the
trail can look forward to more high speed bikers now four abreast mowing
us down. That's why the bicycle coalition is so excited about this. This
project should not be here at city council today for approval of
alignment. It is still far from ready for that. Originally you intended
for 100% of this new concrete roadway to be out over the water. But in
just the past few months, because of our public pressure, 50% of it now
is already on land. All the rest of it can and must go on land where it
belongs. You need to stop rejecting land that is trying to be offered to
you but has just been rejected like at the river walk condominiums. You
need to use the land that you already have, like at star riverside and
[indiscernible] business school instead of letting star riverside build
a swimming pool in our easement because you are going to spend millions
of dollars to go around them over the water. You need to seriously
negotiate in good faith with the breakers apartments and 1818 waterfront
condos for the final couple of pieces. You are failing the public badly
on all of this. Since the very beginning, the process of this project
has been seriously flawed. The trail foundation study that started this
whole escapade failed to include any of the affected stakeholders, even
though we said we would be included. You the council have railroaded
this project through the boards and commissions review process and
proper public input. Why? What is the rush? Usually there is some evil
developer type behind these sorts of nefarious projects. But this time,
sadly, it is you, the council itself, that is that evil developer. And
it is an election year. How convenient. Please do the right thing.
Return this project back to the parks board, land and facilities
subcommittee. Where it last was -- was looked at for important
conversations and due diligence and they said in november that it would
still be with them for some time to come. Next thing we knew, it was at
the parks board, next thing we know it's with you for approval of an
legitimate that is not finished. We need an alignment that is on land
and with a natural design that is compatible with all of the rest of the
existing trail we enjoy. Thank you very much.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, mr. smith.
[ Applause ]
Mayor Wynn: And good luck with the -- with the game company. Sounds
exciting. Nancy redding was our next potential speaker. Nancy redding
signed up wishing to give us testimony also in opposition. To be
followed by deborah gunn, welcome, ms. gunn. You, too, will have three
minutes to be followed by steven title I hope it is steven. Sorry.
mayor, council people. I have had the privilege since 1997 to live 50
feet from the end of the existing hike and bike trail. 30 Feet off of
the river. I have watched this river. I enjoy this river. People must
enjoy it. I am all for the hike and bike trail. We have something that
nature gave us. Let us preserve it. My biggest concern, the gentleman
who just spoke has brought up many I think very sound questions. Taking
a body of people and having them walk out into a national, navigable
river, is something that is -- has got to be studied. If precedent could
be sit here, and I have found no one -- nothing written about this or
said about it, but if we allow a board walk conveying human people, are
we not opening it up to 20 years of floating snack bar? A floating
restaurants? If our gambling laws were to change, we could have casinos
out there. We have to look at this at many different angles. It needs to
be studied more. It needs to be people who are experts. Mingled with the
community. This is a community area, ladies and gentlemen. It is not an
easy task. All you have to do is go south for one hour and look at how
the river walk came about. It came about starting in the early '30s,
interrupted by warlord war two, interrupted by korea and financial
problems. Then all of a sudden,
[indiscernible], that is what started this. It took the voices of a
small garden ladies group to say no, don't fill this in for building.
Let's do something with it. It has been an arduous stretch and I have
watched this concept since the early '60s, when I was at michigan state
university and knew a professor who was a part of planning and getting
the river walk done. I have known this professor for 54 years. It has
worked out. They've had many pitfalls. Screaming battles. It has been an
arduous task. But look, when you took time, got everybody together,
civility set in, the groups actually started listening to each other as
well as talking. Talking [buzzer sounding], gentlemen and ladies,
please, we need a lot more study before we even go to a concrete plain
design. Thank you.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, ms. gunn. Our next speaker is steven title or
tittle. So if I am mispronouncing that. A number of folks wanted to
donates time to you as well. Is jeff taylor here? Welcome jeff. How
about tim floorer? Hello, tim, welcome as well. Felipe [indiscernible]
sorry if I'm mispronouncing that. How about elizabeth
[indiscernible] welcome. So steven you have up to 12 minutes if you need
it. Welcome, you will be followed by shelly meyer.
Thank you, thank you city council. For hearing us. I'm steven tittle,
with 1818 lake shore boulevard. I am an owner and a board member. I'm
speaking to the -- on behalf of myself and the board. I would like to
present a presentation in which I show different conditions on the
ground and offer different opportunities for completion of the trail. So
with that I will start. Is there a way to have it -- have it stop pacing
through? Right there. I would like that to stop right there. At first I
will address different aspects. This is a -- this map was generated by
the parks department and all the groups that have been working on this.
I thank you for y'all's time and work. This particular map was generated
in I believe or presented in -- in 12 -- 12-08. It showed four possible
routes. And today I would like to speak to encourage the city council to
-- to c or d, which would be these -- sorry ab that. Routes c or d,
which would be the two most southern routes. I believe that it -- it is
the best route can -- considering the time constraints. Considering the
economic downturns. I also -- also considering the participation that
you would receive from the landowners. That being said, c or d, i
believe, would complete a safe, usable trail. It would utilize existing
easements on amli. It would utilize existing owned land which is already
a park-like setting. It would facilitate a pedestrian traffic from the
it would preserve the sangty of lady bird -- sanctity of lady bird lake,
which was a major point throughout the design process on as little water
as possible. I believe it would come at a significant and less cost to
the city, especially with the waterfront condominiums contribution, it
also would preserve my association's ability within the framework of the
waterfront overlay to redevelop the property and then contribute route
b. This is an aerial generated by google in 2003. If you will notice,
the south portion of that is the land in question. City owned land. It
is -- it was the current trail and location and is the current trail
location. As you can see, the creek line, the opportunity for c and d,
which would be the amli side, we actually own some of that to the amli
side that we are willing to contribute. This is the land in question to
the south of our property. It is a 60 feet by 400 swath of land. To the
right you can see the trail adjacent to it. It is a -- what we consider
and many consider a park-like setting. Obviously the trail connectivity,
it would be a simple task to just extend that trail. Placement would be
anywhere that the city wants because that's your land. It could be as
far as 20, 30, 40 feet off the roadway, which should facilitate a safe,
usable trail. This is from the other perspective. This would be coming
from the amli side. Once again, a swath of land that's very park-line
and usable. It is already currently the -- the trail. Pedestrians and
cyclists have a choice of being on the sidewalk or just off the -- off
the roadway. There's already a worn path where many users are -- are
enjoying that land. This is -- this is approximately 2,000 feet away,
it's an aerial of the youth hostel. It's very similar condition to 1818
lake shore boulevard. The current trail placement you can see on the
left, comes to the roadway, along the sidewalk and then across the two
entry points and exit points. It's -- it's -- the current trail
placement, to my knowledge, the trail foundation nor the parks
department have complained about safety in that location. I'll -- one
more word on that. It also comes off the water and wastewater. I believe
that's another key component for choosing the -- the desire for route a.
The two at the bottom have a very similar entry and exit point to 1818
lake shore boulevard. This is the current trail in front of the youth
hostel. This is an overview of the entire acreage, maybe 50 acres of
land. We have the 1818 to the left, north, we have the youth hostel.
Clearly see the trails and how it loops through. I show you this picture
today to talk about the south side [indiscernible] in which that 34
acres of all of the property to the south are being redeveloped. I have
spoken with the developers and they are in agreement as far as the
pedestrian bike path that would go along their portion of the creek. It
would allow for pedestrian bike path from riverside drive across lake
shore boulevard with some sort of traffic dampening at that
intersection, connect with c or d, connecting the entire trail, users to
the north and south. The -- on the that point at lake shore boulevard
and the creek would essentially be a break points and users could go
right, left, north, south. Ments I'm trying to address the safety
concerns. I believe that the safety concerns are not, will not come
primarily from -- from pedestrians or hike or bikers going across our
entry and exit points. The real safety concerns would come from the
34-acre development across lake shore boulevard and plan a does not
address any of that. I feel like the -- the -- we could create a very
safe trail system in front of -- to the south of 1818 lake shore, even
safer than what currently exists with the youth hostel. Once again I
believe that route c or d, combined route c or d would complete the safe
usable trail, would utilize existing easements from amli
[indiscernible], facilitate a pedestrian traffic from the new south ,
would reserve the sanctity of lady bird lake, would come at a
significantly less cost due to waterfront contribution and would
preserve our ability within the framework of the waterfront overlay to
redevelop our property and then give route b as soon as the economy
turns. Thank you very much.
Thank you, steven. Visuals help a lot, too. Shelly meyer is our next
speaker. Welcome back. Somebody wanted to donate time to you, right? You
will have up to six minutes if you need it, followed by tom athy.
Thank you. Yes, I'm shelly meyer, i walk on the trail every day. But
I'm not here to advocate for wider or more trails. I've been a renter
and owner on the shores of lady bird lake for about 10 years, but I'm
not here today to speculate on the rise or fall of my property value
based on the trail. I'm here to advocate for something that doesn't have
a voice, and that's our lake, lady bird lake. Austin is hyper developing
and begging for more parks, begging for green space to be left
untouched. Go to any neighborhood association or parks board meeting,
and thank god to these associations for save town lake and the
waterfront overlay task force. Against all odds they manage to win a few
and lose a few to ultimately preserve about 100-foot strip of green
around the shores of this lake. Highest and best use, the condo high
rises take every foot of land yont that and there are -- beyond that and
there are more coming. What's left? Well, we think we'll always have the
lake, they can't develop on that space because it's water, right? Well,
apparently wrong. Now the city itself is subjecting us to another
situation of highest and best use, but this time it's our lake. We have
got to have another 14 feet, ah-ha, we will just go over the water. By
its reflective nature the lake magnifies green space. And an 8-foot
gravel trail around the edge weaving in and out of the trees gently
integrates man and the environment. A 14-foot wide half mile long
concrete platforming running out over the top of the water covers up
this reflective green space and it's not a good thing. Take yourself out
to the shore of this lake, which is really a narrow river. And look at
the small sliver of reflection between you and the opposite shore.
Imagine this structure topping out at nine feet including pilings,
decking, handrails, slicing down an entire horizon 30 feet out in front
of you. Many people have and will share insight with you today as to why
this is happening. Some of the reasons are good. Some of due to
impatience, some are due to the economic forces of development in our
population growth. But our lake is our lake. And it must be preserved.
Once you fill it up or cover it up, it's gone. This is the wrong
solution. I've been accused of saying not in my back yard. But this lake
is not in my back yard. It's ail of austin's back yard. And I'm saying
like many others don't pave our lake. You are voting today to start
spending money next week to lock and load this routing, according to
david taylor that's about $40,000 a week, and you yourself say it can
change and it still should change yet you are going to start designing
it on this proposed routing. I agree it can and it should change and we
should take the time to get this routing in the right place, which is on
land, before we spend another nickel to design it. Thank you.
[One moment please for change in captioners] I've toured cross-country
and I've ridden recreationally for as long as I can remember. When we
bought our house in 1987, the primary reason for purchasing in that
location was the proximity to the town lake trail. It seemed a little
odd at the time that there was a gap in the trail on the southside and
that it was necessary to detour along the sidewalk on riverside, but we
just kind of assumed that that would be something that was dealt with
eventually. Now it's been 20 years that we've been living there. I've
ridden that sidewalk thousands of times, literally thousands of times.
This is a very dangerous stretch of sidewalk, and even so it's better
than riding on riverside. I do not ride my bicycle on the street on
riverside. There's too many cars, too fast, everybody is in a hurry and
it's a dangerous route. Fast moving traffic, and to have pedestrians and
bicyclists using the adjoining sidewalk recreationally approximate puts
a large number of people at risk ever single day. 5-mile stretch of
sidewalk, and I know it 2 at the river, but if you take the detour 5
from the condos on east to the american-statesman building on the west,
there are points that are mostly driveways, a couple of streets, about
half of those points you can get a car coming from either direction, a
car coming off of riverside, coming out of a driveway or out of a condo.
That's 32 chances to directly interact with a car in a 1.5-mile trip.
And over the years I've had a lot of close calls on this stretch. I know
there's some obvious danger spots along the route. If you know the
route, obviously the interstate, the access roads are very dangerous. A
lot of fast moving cars. People on the phone, constant noise. It's very
dangerous crossing the interstate right there. But there are also subtle
dangers all along the route. There is gravel, glass, narrow sidewalks,
construction debris, cracks and uneven sidewalks, weirdly positioned
telephone poles and fire hydrants, not to mention the steady flow of
runners and walkers and bikes. It's a gaunt let. It's noisy, it's
stressful. It's unpleasant and it's an accident waiting to happen. I
strongly urge the council to move forward towards implementing a timely
solution to this problem. I know there are issues of design and cost and
environmental concerns. My main concern is safety. As someone who is out
there several times a week going down this route --
[ buzzer sounds ] -- I think somebody needs to be done quickly. I
appreciate your attention to this. The longer this risk remains, the
more chance there is that a tragedy will occur. Thank you.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, tom. Let's see, our next speaker is john
trailer. Welcome, john. You too will have three minutes to be followed
by kay morris.
I actually believe i voted for every member of this august body.
Which is nice for a change. I am a landowner at the river walk
condominiums at 500 east riverside and I'm a former member of the board.
I'm currently not on the board, so I'm just speaking as a landowner and
I applaud your efforts to expand the trail because I too am I a trail
user. I do believe there are alternatives that need to be addressed in
this alignment issue. Personally I would prefer to see the sidewalk
improved out front, remove the utilities and things of that nature so
that the sidewalk can be made better, reduce the number of cuts to the
sidewalk. Then over time as properties come up or redeveloped, the city
could take actions at those times to claim river front banks. But if you
want to go forward with the boardwalk, I would advocate at least along
the skylight segment, which is what I'm referring to today, the area
along where I live, that the boardwalk go further offshore. Yes, I'm
concerned with the way it's going to appear, but I do believe like a
monet painting that something right up close to you may look rougher
than something a little bit further away from you. So I have looked at
the hydro logical surveys at the bottom of the lake and i know from our
lake shore it's 11 feet deep right off the shore, but it only drops to
13 feet when you go a third of the way into the lake before the original
natural channel of the colorado river. I would advocate through the
skyline segment that you connect from the current "austin
american-statesman" trail head, bypass cws and us with a further
offshore option that would bypass the reparrian zone, the sandbar zone,
all of the delicate ecosystems that we're so concerned about, and then
connect that trail stop to the east blunt creek, new connector their
talking about and the parkland there passing beneath the interstate. By
being further offshore, i believe that it would do a number of things.
Of course, it would not impact the ecosystems, the reparrian zone and
the sandbar which are nesting areas for migratory birds. The route
further offshore would not reduce the outflow from east bouldin creek.
I've lived there for 20 years and I have seen that creek do some pretty
astonishing things with outflow in heavy rains and I'm really concerned
about the issue of having a path close to the shore that could catch the
debris and the trees and things that are washed out of south austin that
could cause a backup and potential flooding to our properties and other
properties along east bouldin. As I've stated before, the water depth
off our property is 11 feet. Of course, the sandbar is much shallower,
but you could bypass the sandbar and stay within just 13 feet of water
so that the construction cost between 11 feet and 13 feet of depth of
water should be relatively minuscule and bypass our property and protect
our privacy. I'm very concerned about having the path very close to our
property and having people looking up at us.
[ Buzzer sounds ] I'm very concerned that there could be a situation
where you may have a woman with an abusive spouse or something and that
spouse could then go out and stand on the public trail and look up at
our property at that person who is trying to live in their home
privately and be stalked from that trail if it's too close to our
property. So along the skyline segment, I would encourage y'all to push
it further offshore, the depth of the water is not really an issue. And
it would improve the viewing of the skyline, the fireworks, and it would
not impede any sort of traffic because it wouldn't be in the channel and
we could use the skulling races and the boat races from that point too
if that goes forward. So if it has to go forward, I encourage you to go
a little further offshore. Thank you very much for the opportunity to
speak to you.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. Kay morris is our next speaker. Kay morris
signed up wishing to speak in favor. Let's see. We'll note her support
for the record. Charles betts signed up wishing to speak. Charles betts
also signing up in favor. Susan rankin. Susan. You too will have three
minutes to be followed --
mayor and councilmembers, I'm susan rankin, executive director of the
trail foundation. I think you're ought at this point in time very
familiar with the reasons that we're proposing to complete the trail
with the boardwalk, everything from finally connecting east and west
austin in this most important of our public spaces to resolving the
safety issue to providing full access for all users, including mobility
impaired users, to completing the hub and austin's pedestrian and
bicycle system of trails. And also enabling unique conservation efforts
in this beautiful area. Again, we're going to enable people that use our
parks to have access to what is now an inaccessible, beautiful piece of
parkland just west of i-35. I think that some of the people that are
questioning moving forward at this point are talking about the
alignments and different ways we can work on this. Again I'd like to
emphasize what stewart strong says, the staff and the team has really
worked on the alignments. They have a recommendation. In order to move
forward with the design we have to have somewhat of a decision made so
that they can go forward and have the specific designs for the over land
and over water portions and also continue with the ongoing environmental
assessments that will be part of this process. In order for the core and
for the city permit process to move forward, there has to be a
determination, a decision about what route it will take. I think there's
plenty of opportunity to continue talking and having constructive
dialogue with all the people, all the private property owners along, but
we do really need to move forward with the design phase so we can get
construction drawings and decisions about this. Again, the trail
foundation plans to provide the private portion of the funds that are
necessary to have this move forward and we look forward to working with
the city staff to develop a beautiful and environmentally responsible
trail along the boardwalk. Any questions?
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, susan. rank-in, susan, and for the work of the
foundation. Let's see, a number of folks here who have signed up in
favor and are here to answer questions if we have them, council. charlie
McCab has signed up in favor. I wanted to make sure charlie had a chance
to testify if he would like. Charlie, welcome.
I guess I only get a minute half. charlie McCamp mabry, austin parks
foundation. We are in support of moving forward with the concept al part
of the trail. We're working with the trail foundation. We encourage the
city to continue the dialogue that's been going on. We think it been
very fruitful. I want to say a few things about the importance of trails
in austin. The number one amenity according to city and county surveys
about the last 15 years is trails. We have 117 miles of trails in the
city. We perceive many more hundreds of miles that could be planned.
We're working with a number of nonprofits and different government
agencies to see if we can double or triple that number of trail miles
out there. And just want to underscore the importance of how many people
will be actually using this trail and how this can be the center of a
greater hub of a trails network. We see lady bird lake as kind of the
hole in the middle of the donut that actually radiates out. And like we
started planning back in the early '90's, into the mid '90's, we see a
huge t network out thank you for your support. We appreciate it.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. Any questions for charlie, council? Thank you.
And again, council, we have some folks who are here as resources if we
have questions on the proponent team. And for the record, gentry will
note the several dozen folks who have signed up not wishing to speak,
both in favor and in opposition. Council, I believe that concludes our
citizen's testimony on this item number 10, the boardwalk resolution.
With that I'd like to open it up for questions of staff, comments,
council. Or motions. Again, I'll just say and reiterate, and we greatly
appreciate the testimony both for and in opposition to this resolution.
I feel strongly that what this resolution fundamentally does is gives
staff the direction they need to continue the detailed planning and
design work for this potential project, there by allowing us to answer
some very specific questions, everything from environmental impact
studies, questions about aesthetics, questions about how far if at all
out into the water as we heard trailer talk about, but then also very
specific questions that can be answered with work -- by working with
adjacent private property owners. I remain very supportive of this
resolution. Again, just taking this next step. I look forward to having
a bunch of answers for specific questions so we can then as a community
figure out what will be the final design and project and then we have
the -- what I think will be challenging, but opportunistic chore of
pulling together the capital dollars to actually construct and complete
the link around the lake. Again, further questions of staff, council,
comments? Councilmember morrison.
Morrison: I wonder if maybe staff could talk to this a little bit,
assuming this does go forward. How might we expect to be seeing the
design effort being made available to the public for conversation? I
presume it will be coming back to the parks board, for instance, on
occasion?
That's correct. The parks board has offered their services to be the
point of focus for public discussion about the design. So our discussion
so far with them has been we would be back perhaps on a monthly basis or
more frequently as needed to show the stages of development, the plan,
get citizen comments, have a full discussion. So the parks board would
be the point of public discussion.
Thank you.
Mayor Wynn: Again, further questions, comments? Motion by mayor pro
tem to approve item number 10 as posted, seconded by councilmember
leffingwell. Further comments? Mayor pro tem.
I just want to say one of the great accomplishments in this state's
history is the open beaches act, which all of us like myself who grew up
on the texas coast recognize meant that the shoreline was open to
everybody in the public. In that same principal i believe should apply
to our community lakefront as well. That's why I move to approve the
resolution.
Mayor Wynn: Again we have a motion and a second on the table
approving item 10. Further comments? Hearing none, all those in favor
please say aye. Opposed? Motion passes on a vote of seven to zero. Thank
you all very much. Council, that takes us to item number 16. I'm just
looking at sort of our citizen testimony sign-up, but just
coincidentally we have about half an hour or so worth of testimony
should folks want to take that opportunity. So I think we might can
squeeze this in so to speak before our noon general citizen
communication. So without objection or further adieu, I would like to
turn it over to austin energy general manager roger duncan who can again
sort of capsulize this project that we've been talking about in detail
here at least here for the last month or so and then we'll hear from our
citizen comments. Welcome back mr. duncan.
Thank you, mayor and council. At our last meeting the council asked
us to do about two or three things and consider for this next meeting. I
would like to briefly run over those items. The first item was to meet
with the large customers. And we had a second large customer meeting on
february the 19th. There were many segments represented in that meeting,
the large industrials, including high-tech, manufacturing and data
centers. The large commercials including office buildings, hotels,
hospitals, government sector and school district. And we discussed with
them at length the green choice options and also the economic stimulus
package opportunities. I would like to go into detail on those two
options that we discussed with the large industrial customers. First on
the federal stimulus package, the benefits to private industries such as
gemini are predominantly tax related and not available to the city of
austin being a tax exempt entity. When luke at and analyze this, and
we've looked at it from several different viewpoints, our own internal
government relations staff, the city's government relations staff. We've
had pfm, which is the city's bond counsel, look at it. And then I have
spent the last two days in washington meeting with officials from the
department of energy and other people who are intimately familiar with
what is in the economic stimulus package, what is in it, the language in
it and what might be applicable. The conclusions from all that are there
is an extension of projection tax credits for renewables, including this
package. This is already included in the price that gemini gave us. What
was in the stimulus package was an extension of the time that this was
available, but it had already been included in the price we received
from gentlemen any. There was an extension of the 2008 increase in bonus
depreciation for renewables. Again, that was already considered. The one
area that may need an additional pass-through is the investment tax
credit with a tax grant option for renewables. And the investment tax
credit -- it's not the production tax credit that was included in the
price, it's the investment tax credit that was included in the price.
The difference that the economic stimulus package is that it has the
opportunity to take that investment tax credit and forward it or roll it
into a cash grant at the beginning of the process and that calculation
could save money and lower the price if it was applicable. I had
concerns and our staff will locally that that gemini would not be
applicable for this extension, this crash grant option because of the
buy america clause that is in the economic stimulus package. However, I
spent yesterday morning meeting with jeff ginzer in washington. He is
probably one of the leading experts in washington on the federal monies
involved in this. He showed me the clause and assured me that in fact
they could apply -- bite america clause would not apply to them because
of the language as written in the economic stimulus package, and they
probably could apply for this. However, he pointed out that this is not
a department of energy grant, this is a treasury department ruling. And
the treasury departmen rule making has not occurred yet and it's not
going to be quick process. Over the last two days that I've spent in dc
meeting -- we had meetings with matt rogers, who is the senior advisor
to secretary chu, department of energy secretary, he is the person that
the secretary has designated to push out the door. All the economic
stimulus package for energy from the department of energy. It has become
clear that the different portions of the stimulus package are moving at
very different rates, and that the rule making, the application forms
and such for most of this has not been determined yet and are going to
be determined at different speeds. So I'll get back to this in a moment,
but that's one area, that may be applicable to this project. The other
area was applicable manufacturing facilities. That is not applicable to
this. That is the manufacturing of more advanced technologies than
anything we received in our bid package. And finally, gemini has agreed
to pass through all available benefits prior to closing of their
financing. We expect that to be later toward the end of the year and we
believe that this time frame that we have gotten from them will allow
the rule making to be done and the application process to be completed
prior to the financing. I need to emphasize that, again, it is a tax
benefit that they are receiving that is not applicable to the city of
austin. So gentlemen any has to apply for this. The city of austin
cannot apply for these cash options ourselves. So any agreement for
pass-through with gemini has to include some benefit for gemini in order
for them to apply. On the next slide is the green choice option. Council
asked us to consider putting this into a green choice charge. We will
establish one or more green choice options. It might be a solar only
green choice based on this particular project or it might be a blended
green choice option where you combine this project plus some of our wind
energy and maybe some of the bio mass energy. That would lower the price
of that particular offering and it might be easier to get it fully
subscribed if we blend it with other renewable options. All the
offerings will reflect the actual cost of the supply of what's in that
batch. I'll repeat again that energy not sold will apply system supply
and will be recovered through fuel charge that will go to all the users.
We will bring this to the council for a tariff closer to the date that
this project goes online. That's the standard procedure for all of our
green choice options and we do it closer to the date it actually goes
online because there are elements in any tariff such as ercot fees that
cannot be determined until you get closer to the actual date that the
energy is going online. So our recommendation is essentially the same as
last time. We recommend moving forward with this agreement with gemini
solar development company with one additional recommendation, and that
is that the award be subject to the pass through of all applicable
stimulus benefits that we discussed earlier. We think this is the best
evaluated proposal. It is a 25-year agreement. It should be on line by
the end of 2010 with a fixed price of total estimated amount of $250
million over the term. I will end with a final slide reminding council
of the benefits that -- for the reason we wanted to move forward with
this. There is no carbon. It is part of our plan to reduce the overall
carbon footprint of austin and austin energy. There's no transmission
congestion involved in this and as you know from the problems we've had
with wind energy, locating facilities out in west texas has caused us
real problems and getting that energy to austin, this will be located on
our side of the ercot interconnect. And there's no fuel cost and the
savings opportunity over the long-term. And I want to take this bullet
to emphasize again something on the price. This is a very, very good
price for solar. I can't go into the exact price. Frankly, I don't think
gemini wants to be put in the position of offering this price to others.
It is the largest facility of this type in the nation. Volume counts in
this business. We got a very low price on this. Earlier today you passed
an item on the agenda to give solar rebates to the travis county center.
The price of energy coming from this solar is substantially lower than
the price of energy that would be coming into our system off those solar
facilities than what we give out as rebates. We have reverse engineered
the pricing structure they have given us and to a dollar per watt basis
and we are extremely happy with this. We haven't seen this low a price
for solar anywhere in the nation or the world at this point. So it is a
very good price. We think this will have a minimum impact to the 2011 5
cents for the customers. If there were no green choice at all. And to
any extent that it is subscribed, it will lower that 1.5% impact. The
other point is this production is coincident with our peak demand. And I
know others have come up and said, well, this price is very high
compared to our average cost of energy. I don't think that's the
comparison. It is true that this will be producing energy at many
different parts of the day, but it is producing energy on that hot
summer afternoon and we have peaking turbines that sit ielgd for most of
the year and then he are fueled with natural gas on those hot summer
afternoons. The price of energy coming out of those turbines is very
high. It's our highest form, highest price energy from austin. The price
of this is just above that, just above our peaking cost. This price will
be locked in for 25 years. We expect our peaking cost from those
turbines to be going up over the next 25 years, both because of gas and
because of carbon legislation. So we expect similar to the green choice
options people have taken fairly soon this price will be actually at a
discount to our peaking power cost that we have at austin energy. With
those -- I did want to make one final mention. Some of you have seen
that one of the partners in the gemini coalition, mma renewable
ventures, has been purchased since the last time that we met with
council by a spanish company. I have an east texas pronouncization of
the company. This company is primarily a spanish company, although they
are 32% owned by general electric. It does not affect the financing of
this deal at all. In fact, it adds strength to the financial sheets of
mma ventures and will make them solely a solar company now whereas they
were doing other things besides solar in the past. We've talked to
purchasing, we've talked to the partners. We see nothing that affects
this deal. In fact, we think it strengthens it. That's my presentation,
mayor.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, mr. duncan. duncan before we hear from our
citizens, council? I expect we'll -- the testimony from the public very
well may inspire a few more questions. Council, then without objection
we'll hear from folks who signed up wishing to give us testimony in this
item number 16 regarding the contract with gemini solar. Let's see, our
first speaker signed up looks like is roger wood. You will have three
minutes and be followed by ron roverson.
Mayor, councilmembers, i appreciate the opportunity to speak. My name
is roger wood with freescale semiconductor here in austin. Freescale has
supported austin energy's conservation initiatives for many years, and
currently we employ about 5,000 people at the austin sites. And since
the '70 we've had energy and water conservation programs every year
internally. We've learned that conservation is by far the most effective
way to reduce our carbon footprint, while at the same time it reduces
our consumption and demand. Each year we set sustainable conservation
goals and aggressively act on them. Over the last four years energy
conservation has reduced our consumption by over 250 million-kilo watt
hours. We have also sported ae's goal to transfer to renewables by 2020.
We've been a green choice subscriber since 23. We support ae's solar
goals and realize getting there will be a very large power purchase
commitment totaling well over $10 billion if you look at all the things
that have to happen in the future. This translates into significant
increases in the fuel pass through charge for all rate payers by as much
as 100% through 2015, even according to the austin energy numbers.
Scope, timing, technical, financial, legal and regulatory details
associated with these renewable purchases all have significant costs in
tax. So based on our experience with the recently improved 3 billion
biomass purchase and this 250-million-dollar purchase, we're concerned
about how these details are being managed and the lack of stakeholder
visibility and include into this management process. For example,
there's no current cost budget or cost targets included in the current
resource plan. Implementation of the plan is entirely by austin energy,
even though austin energy has no financial stake in the plan. The plan
continues to be implemented based on austin energy system demand
forecast developed prior to the economic downturn. When we've asked for
a new forecast, austin energy has responded it would not be available
for several weeks, but informally has acknowledged that the demand has
dropped. For both bio mass and solar projects our involvement has been
-- has been to see ae high level summary presentations of projects after
the bids were received with approval of funding scheduled to follow
within days thereafter. And that's pretty much been the process for us
so far. Just austin or two week -- just one or two week catching up with
the project. The stakeholder input, we've attended those meetings. We've
been told to change the plan must be communicated by stakeholders
directly to city council since austin energy's directives is to
implement the plan as is.
[ Buzzer sounds ] what is the purpose of these meetings? Moving forward,
we and other commercial and industrial stakeholders respectively request
the following: Visibility, involvement in renewables implementation
process, including project development, review, accountability to
council that this involvement is being provided and stakeholders are
paying all costs and taking all the risks, not austin energy and coa. So
we should have that involvement. In addition, we request much more
emphasis on energy conservation to meet carbon goals. This reduces
carbon footprint several times more than what renewables do. It reduces
our consumption and our cost whereas renewables do not. And even for a
given fuel mix, reducing a load in the system increases percent
renewables. As stakeholders, freescale and other key customers can help
austin renewable goals and control costs. We're ready to participate,
but need a mechanism that allows this to happen. We're requesting that
you the council provide that mechanism. Freescale welcomes the
opportunity to discuss this further with councilmembers. Thank you.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. We do greatly appreciate the corporate sit
renry that freescale has shown all these years and desperately value
those jobs that you all cling to with us. And I think there's solid
consensus on the dais about the need for particularly our large
industrial users to be an integral part of this planning process for the
long-term viability of our utility as we see that industry changing
dramatically over the foreseeable decade or so, particularly with carbon
legislation on the forefront of congressional leaders. Thank you. And
you have my assurance that we will continue to try to perfect that
format and forum and arena for you and other large industrial users of
austin energy to help us be the best utility we can be.
Okay. Thank you, mayor. Thank you, council.
Mayor Wynn: Our next speaker is ron rogerson? And is roy matthews
here? Yes, sir. So ron, roy has offered to foe date his three minutes.
If you need it you will have up to six minutes and then you will be
followed by michael lumly.
Thanks, mayor, austin city council. I'm ron rogerson, I'm a senior
manager with spangs. At spangs we're very supportive of green
initiatives and make protecting and improving the environment our
everyday goals. As one of austin energy's key companies, we have been
integral in making the green choice program work. We're 66% of the total
available green choice power has been purchased by industrial commercial
customers. We support the solar program coming out of as a green choice
option. We supported renewable energy as a means for improving the
environment, diversifying austin energy's generation portfolio and
helping to stabilize the energy costs. Our concern is with the current
stakeholder process, communication about the projects, the timing and
costs of the projects during a significant downturn. The current public
participation process has not allowed for input and is not working. A
better process that allows for stakeholder input should include
appointments by the austin city council with regular updates to the
austin city council, compose the members of all sides of the issues.
Stakeholder representation should be based on the proportion of energy
consumed. Stakeholder meetings should be led by an outside firm that is
neutral to the issues. Stakeholder process should take into
consideration job creation, technology, opportunities and advancements,
energy costs and forecasts. Future state and federal legislation and
city of austin climate control goals. Green choice option if done
correctly will bring about -- will bring out the willingness of the
people of austin and its customers to support the council on its goals.
We believe that energy conservation initiatives will have to be
increased to meet the resource goal plan. Energy conservation is more
cost effective than building any form of generation. We look forward to
working with the austin city council and austin energy in moving forward
and approving the stakeholder process. We hope to bring about a future
generation resource plan that all of austin can support. Thank you.
Mayor Wynn: Our next speaker is michael lumly. Welcome back. You will
have three minutes and be followed by michael faciliano.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen of the council. I come before you
today to present a petition from the city of austin in support of the
webberville development project. This project not only represents the
first step towards bringing sustainable power to austin energy's
portfolio, but also demonstrates true commitment on the part of the city
of austin to renewable energy integration. Aside from all the real
benefits of 30 megawatts of clean energy, that project in combination
with the pecan street project will have austin as the e.p.a. Center --
epicenter. I would like to talk about the fuel charge increase and how
it might impact the large scale power consumers. Though the rate
increase doesn't occur until 2011 or the end of 2010, therefore wouldn't
be a part of the current downturn per se, i would like to offer a
potential solution preventing an increase for these apparently
vulnerable organizations altogether. If austin energy were to design an
implementation incentive program similar to the one available to
residential customers, austin energy could lock in current building
practices for participants on the large scale customer's schedule who
have the ability to implement solar solutions at their collection
loakses. The balance could be recowpped by austin energy, keeping part
or all of the realized savings generated from those arrays on the
customer's properties until such time as they were repaid and then the
savings could be passed on to the large scale consumers themselves. This
would not only help insulate the large scale consumers, but would also
satisfy the green space advocates and the local austin solar community
who has been somewhat be grunled by not -- begrudged by not being
involved in the process. Companies could improve their fiscal solvency
while reducing peak demand. It would create a market for local solar
manufacturers and design and installation firms. It is my opinion by
proactively addressing the concerns of the webberville project we can
not only remove the impediments, but create a wealth of opportunities
for businesses, large and small, solutions that are achievable. I
e-mailed the link to the petition online to the city council and you can
view all the signature online.
Mayor Wynn: Michael also signed up wish to go address us. Welcome,
michael. You too will have three minutes to be followed by luke metzger.
Thank you so much. I would like to state that i am not a resident of
austin. I am actually from north texas. I'm a resident of texas. I've
been a professional here in the renewable energy here for years now here
in texas. I just wanted to state a few things for you to help illuminate
and give some increased perspective to touch on some things that roger
also mentioned. The need for renewable energy is pretty obvious. We all
know the main reasons which are things like reducing fossil fuel usage
for the sake of global warming, reducing transfer of wealth through
purchasing fossil rules fuels from oversees as well as hedging against
volatile energy rates which have stayed pretty constant or at a lower
inflation rate here in austin than they have in the rest of texas and
across the country. But I think we're all in agreement that energy will
go up over time if not in the short-term, due to the economic downturn.
Texas is one of the fattest growing states in the nation as far as
population is concerned. It's important to keep in mind that every new
person that comes into texas consumes energy upwards of three times as
fast or three times in volume of other states in the country like
california or colorado because of our heightened climate here. Our hvac
load is roughly 70% of the load on a home here in texas, which grows our
energy usage that much faster and forces utilities like austin energy to
grow their infrastructure that much faster. And if it does not come from
renewable sources, it is at least a significant part of that mix, it
will have to come from natural gas or coal fired plants in texas, mostly
being natural gas, which is a cleaner fuel than coal, but still not as
clean as solar. And extremely volatile as the global market for energy
and the negotiable population increases and the migration of population
from, let's say, what's considered to be lower class to more of a middle
class through brazil, china, india and russia. The consumption of energy
across the world will force energy rates back up in a short amount of
time. We're already starting to see that through the rebound in oil and
it will happen in natural gas as well. I'm here to tell you as a
professional in the industry that there's only eight gigawatts of solar
energy production globally right now per year. What that means is as all
the stimulus plans roll out and china and across many nations which I
can give you great detail on, and the hundreds of billions of dollars
focused on infrastructure growth, the eight gigawatts available right
now, which has stopped in its expansion due to economic downturn will
very quickly within the next few months be absorbed by the world from a
solar perspective. I'm here to agree with roger, as somebody that bid on
this project and lost, I'm here to agree with roger that your price that
you've received for this project is far and away below market.
[ Buzzer sounds ] and those market prices that you have the ability to
capture will not remain due to increase in demand, increase in
infrastructure funding by multiple nations. It's my opinion you approve
of the project based on the value proposition that you've received and i
appreciate your time.
The next speaker is luke metzger. You too will have three minutes to
be followed by david power.
Thank you, mayor and councilmembers. I'm metzger, the director of
environment texas. I will be brief today. I believe you've heard from
hundred of austinites now since the last council meeting urging you to
support this project. I do once again urge you to go solar. Thank you.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. David power also signed up wishing to give us
testimony. Welcome, mr. power. You will have three minutes to be
followed by tim
(indiscernible). mayor, thank you councilmembers. I'm a public citizen,
the deputy director and representing its members. We congratulate you on
successfully moving through what I know to be a very complicated
process. We've heard from some of the industrials who have expressed
their issues with the stakeholder process, and understand their concerns
about increase in utility rates in general. We did hear some language
about the process that this has gone through. I did notice that somebody
mentioned based on consumption. We would like the council to consider an
open forum if they go forward to improve this process, but not based on
consumption. That almost sounds like for every dollar I spend I get a
boat. We'd like to see it a more inclusive process representing all the
populous and all the industrials. So once again, thank you for spending
a considerable amount of time including all of the members and populous
and industries in austin. Thank you very much.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. Tim la saki? Welcome. You too will have three
minutes to be followed by catherine bisner.
Thank you for holding this meeting today. My name is tim. I am the
spokesperson for gemini solar development company. Gemini is very proud
to be here and to be considered for this important project, which will
be the largest solar project in the u.s. Once constructed. In addition
this project will create immediate investment and clean energy in texas
jobs. It is exactly the type of showcase project that manufacturers look
to when picking states to expand and create jobs. Gemini is committed to
buying locally wherever possible and at this time we expect around 35 to
45 million in local labor and materials in support of this project. Much
of the equipment used in the webberville project will be made in texas.
For example, silicon is one of the major items in the solar panel, the
solar pv panel. And one of the largest suppliers of sun tack is mmac,
which I pointed out haft time they have production facilities in
pasadena. We also expect the final assembly of the tilted tractors to
occur here in texas close to austin, if not in austin. There's also
concrete manufacturing and construction and development jobs. All in all
we expect about 50% of the total labor requirement to occur here in
austin. We're also pleased to have received over 50 distinct inquiries
from local vendors and service providers. Our phone literally rings
three ta times a day from interested pearce, interested engineering
firms and we will be excited to kick off our formal discussions with
folks following today. Also as austin energy indicated, we will work
together to identify and apply for stimulus benefits with the utility.
We're excited about working with him as a partner in this regard.
Finally, we're very pleased to hear the support of the webberville
neighborhood association and we work forward to working with them
throughout this process. Thank you very much.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. Catherine bisner. Welcome. You too will have
three minutes to be followed by paul robbins.
Hello members of the council. Thank you for your service to austin.
I'm very proud of our city and I think you're all doing a wonderful job.
I'm here today to advocate on behalf of the webberville solar power
plant. Austin energy has requested this power plant. We need it to
increase our peak energy capacity. We need this plant to attain
renewable energy targets and we need it to reduce global warming. Barack
obama and the congress are aggressively leading the nation toward a new
green energy economy and austin should be supporting and leading in that
effort. Austinites support having a solar power plant and are willing to
pay a little more for it. Let's move forward with this power plan.
Austin should have the bragging rights of having the nation's largest
solar power plant. And austin should be a leader in the fight against
global warming. Austin energy should be supported as the most
progressive utility in the nation and a leader in the transition to a
new green energy economy. This is the austin that we love and this is
the austin that we want and this is the austin that you helped create.
So let's continue on that right path today. I know budgets are tight and
the economy is faltering, but this is a long-term project. This solar
plant will provide local green energy for decades to come. And as other
fuel prices increase and as carbon taxes are leveed, this plant will be
immune to those costs. Unfortunately our planet is I am perilled by
carbon emissions and we know we need radical and rapid changes in how we
consume and generate energy. Will our grandchildren's planet have the
same familiar signs we have, the same die byeio diversity of species,
including polar bears, the same snow capped mountains? Will all the
treaties and meetings and even the fashionability of going green, carbon
emissions continue to increase unabated. We need to do more and we need
to lead. It's not just about 30 megawatts and it's not just about
austin. It's about doing all we can to be the change we need. And in
doing so leading and inspiring others. So do you trust barack obama's
vision for a new green energy economy? Do you trust austin energy and
roger duncan's expertise and do you trust the will of the people to
austinites that want this solar power plant? As I said, I'm so proud of
austin and I hope you will make me proud again today with your vote and
I hope you will enjoy your vote, vote fog a solar power plant is a step
in the creation of creating austin as an epicenter spho a new green
economy. It's a vote against global warming and a vote for the
environment. Thank you very much.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. Paul robbins? Welcome back. You too will have
three minutes to be followed by john sutton.
May I go at the end?
Mayor Wynn: Sure. Which is coming right up. John sutton? Welcome. You
will be followed by dan vogler.
Good afternoon. Thank you for allowing us to speak. I represent
bottomer, the building owners and managers association here in austin.
We manager our own -- 90% of the commercial office space in the city.
We've been very active in the energy conservation arena, particularly
with the environmental protection agency and the energy star program.
This week the environmental protection agency announced that austin is
amongst the top 25 cities in the country for having achieved energy star
certificatefications. Good for us. Austin has been very active in that
program. We have been in support of alternate resources for energy. We
do support solar energy, but we're concerned about the timing. With the
economy, the cost of solar and this particular project does not really
create more than two or three green collar jobs. What we would like to
do is roger had suggested is that there will be itc's available and what
we would like to see is that any itv or similar rebate incentives
recovered through the solar project be passed on to the city and austin
energy and be used solely to buy town the cost of the project related
and the green choice batch. We would also like to see the creation of a
stakeholder's taskforce that would mention, and it will be made up of
members of all sides of the issue and it would be formulated based on
usage. We'd also like to see a moratorium on the projects until a
stakeholder process has been created and approved by the city council.
And this project be proposed to be added to green choice in such a
manner as to test an gauge the community's commitment to solar. Thank you.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. Dan vogler? He signed up wishing to speak in
opposition. Let's see, I believe that leaves us with carey virhill.
Welcome back. You will be followed by paul robbins.
Hello. I'm with solar austin. We support this project and we've put a
lot of study into not just this project, but the entire generation
planning process that austin energy is currently going through. And in
our view this is an incredibly well planned, well thought out project.
It's a very smart investment. As smup who spent a lot of time
researching this subject, I can tell you it's a very good deal. So the
city should be proud of this project.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. That leaves us with paul robbins. Welcome back.
That's right. You're left with me.
[ Laughter ] I have three minutes on citizens communication. Can you
please transfer those minutes?
Without objection, council, yes.
Mayor, council, citizens of austin. I'm paul robbins and I'm an
environmental activist and consumer advocate. First I'd like to show the
numbers. Could you cue the first slide? The beginning slide was taken
from austin energy, their public participation process, and represents
proposed additions to the electric system. And please note the second
column. It predicts the need for new natural gas power plants. In 2009
there will be 100 megawatts of
(indiscernible) added. In 2013 there will be 200 megawatts of combined
cycle intermediate power. The up front costs of these plants are large.
65 Million for the peak plant, and $160 million for the combined cycle
intermediate plant. Total is $225 million. The yearly cost of these
plants is nine million dollars for the peaking plant and $21 million for
the combined cycle plant. Total of $30 million. This is just for the
yearly mortgage and the operation and maintenance. If you add the cost
of fuel, which is a pass-through, it's $76 million. Next slide? This
final slide -- well, this slide compares the cost of natural gas to
photovoltaics on a kilo watt hour basis. For the peak plant the
lifetime, 25-year average is almost 19 cents a kilo watt hour with a
30-dollar carbon tax and we don't know what carbon is going to cost yet.
So I just use that as a number to work from. It would be about two cents
higher, almost 21 cents a kilo watt hour. If you average the cost of the
two new power plants together, the peak and intermediate plant, if you
have the intermediate plant subfor what isn't provided by solar during
peak, you're going -- it's going to cost 3 cents a kilo watt hour with
carbon 17 cents a kilo watt hour. In some cases it's less, in some cases
it's slightly more, but we're in the ballpark if you compare this with
the new natural gas plants. Now, I want to address the complaints of the
large users. Could I have the chart, please, sir? Now, I showed this
chart at the last meeting, but it bears another viewing. Notice the top
red line. This is the residential base 8 cents per kilo watt hour.
Notice the bottom green line. This is for large industrial customers and
it is about 2.8 cents a kilo watt hour. Industrial base rates are
literally half of residential rates, including fuel costs. Industrial
rates are about one-third lower. What is not on this chart, but bears
mention is that low industrial rates are locked in until 2015. You could
spend two trillion dollars on upgrades on the and the industrials won't
see it until at least 2015, as i understand this. And so the $30 million
that I just stated for the cost of natural gas, the increased cost of
these plants, this will not be seen by the large industrial customers
until at least 2015. But it will be seen by all the rest of us, all the
rest of the commercial customers and all of the residential customers.
5% increase for the large industrial customers on the fuel charge, just
like the rest of us. But they're getting a real good deal. And it's sort
of like how low do they want us to go? They are getting charged slightly
more for the renewables, but they're not getting charged for the rest of
it. Regarding -- there is a proposal and it's really a rumor at this
point because I have not seen wording or heard what it might be, that
there's going to be some kind of possible stakeholders process or
taskforce. We do have two commissions now that deal with this, but if
the council feels the need for some kind of new process, I would ask
that the large industrials of course be given access to it, but not be
given vote tow power. -- Veto power. Thank you for your time.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, mr. robbins. Council, that concludes our
citizen's testimony on this item number 16. Further questions of staff,
comments?
Cole: I had a question of mr. robbins real quick. You had made a
statement about carbon cost and the effects that it was going to have on
natural gas. And the fact that we really didn't know what it was, but I
think you estimated it at 17.5 or so per kilo watt. I'm just wondering
what -- how you kind of came up with that because it really does impact
our --
I came up with it because --
Cole: I just wondered what you knew about what was going on with the
carbon tax. I guess it's just a general question.
Barack and I ate lunch yesterday -- [ laughter ]
Cole: What did he tell you?
[ Laughter ]
no one knows what's going to happen in the next two years,
councilmember cole. I was trying to use it as symbolism to say something
indeed may occur in the next few years, which will mean that natural gas
or any fossil fuel will cost more. It may be $20 a ton, it may be 50. I
use that as an example. And anyone listening, that's all I used it for.
I have no inside information.
Cole: Okay. Just checking.
Mayor Wynn: Further questions of staff, comments? Councilmember
martinez.
Martinez: I'll be brief, but I want to thank staff for taking this
back and tightening it up. Had we adopted this two weeks ago we wouldn't
have the pass-through provision and it wouldn't be green choice.
Minimizing the overall impact on rate payers is in my mind significant
two weeks later. So I really appreciate staff doing that and working on
it. I would like to say, though, that since we have time to do this, I
would really like for us to consider rebranding and reinvesting in terms
of our messaging for green choice. We know that in the future in order
to achieve our green goals, this community is going to have to step up
and we're going to have to start buying into green choice, so I really
hope that we ramp up a rebranding of green choice so that this batch can
be offered in a way where folks will opt into the program. And I would
be glad to be the first one to sign up, but I think councilmember
leffingwell already beat me to that. Thank you guys.
Mayor Wynn: Again, councilmember leffingwell.
Leffingwell: I'm ready to offer a motion and the motion would be to
award the negotiation and execution of the proposed gemini contract as
described in item 16 with additional direction that the contract with
gemini will include a provision for any investment tax credits or
similar rebates or incentives recovered through the solar project be
passed through to the city of austin and be used solely to buy-down the
cost of the project related green choice batch and to reduce any related
fuel cost charge passed on to the utility customer base. And second the
creation of a stakeholder process by a council appointed taskforce
composed of members from all sides of the issue to work together to
formulate the renewable energy plan, including a focus on conservation,
financial climate, updated demand forecast, changing technology and
state of the federal stimulus programs that allows for input prior to
the project selection by austin energy for bid or proposal. The
taskforce should be diverse, represented of all sides and not weighing
in favor of any particular interest. And finally, number 3, that the
project as proposed will be added in to a green choice program for solar
only.
Mayor Wynn: Motion by councilmember leffingwell, seconded by
councilmember martinez approving item number 16 as presented with the
additional caveats regarding potential pass-through of economic gain,
stakeholder process and our green choice program. Further comments on
our motion? Councilmember morrison.
Morrison: I just want to clarify that that's -- in terms of financial
benefits coming along in the future, what you've proposed, councilmember
leffingwell, is a little bit different than what we heard from duncan
this morning, which is where the agreement stands right now. I just want
to confirm that that's true. You're talking about anything that comes --
any windfall from governmental funding that comes forward in the future
regardless of when.
Leffingwell: I believe I've word that had properly duncan answer that
question for himself.
Mayor Wynn: duncan, if you understand the motion we have on the table.
I do understand the motion and I understand the distinction being
made as opposed to anything negotiated between now and the financing
date, which is what has been proposed to us by gemini. And the
councilmember's motion, which is any benefit at any time in the process.
And all I can say is this is a point that will have to be negotiated
gemini appeared it is contingent upon their acceptance.
Morrison: Thank you. I want to say that i strongly support that
portion of your motion, councilmember, because that's, as I understand
it, precisely what we did with our bio most contract and i think I
expect the same kind of approach with this because there are many
unknowns. I appreciate the work that you have done on trying to dig
through what potentially could be there in the stimulus package for us.
And I don't think it's fair to the citizens of austin for us to be
subject to timing of rule making, and who knows what else is going to be
out there in the future. It's my understanding that the bio mass pass
through agreement is 90-10. Do you want to speak to that a little bit?
I'm going to ask our chief operating officer if i COULD, mike
McClusky, who actually negotiated the contract on the bio mass plant, to
clarify that.
Mayor Wynn: Welcome.
Yes. We have provisions in the bio mass contract for certain future
benefits. These are mainly things like carbon credits and other type of
environmental credits that really don't exist today, but we expect will
exist at some point in the future. There is the type of shared mechanism
for those things that you mentioned, 90-10 type tiep split.
And councilmember leffingwell, I have a question for you. It was
mentioned before by duncan that the pass-through might include some
small portion, like 10%, I guess, that would go to gemini because they
would need to have an incentive to actually apply for it. So did you
intend to have that be part of your suggested motion?
Leffingwell: That was the intent. I deliberately didn't specify any
percentages because I would consider that to be a negotiable item, but
we have that 90-10 target out there. I don't anticipate that we would be
able to achieve that for various reasons, but serm that should be the --
certainly that should be the target we should be looking for.
Morrison: Thank you. I appreciate that. I also want to mention i
appreciate all of the input that we've gotten on this project and all
the folks that I've spoken to that have a variety of perspectives. It
was very informative and helpful in making this decision, and I know
that it challenging to make this kind of decision in tough economic
times, but where i come down really is that we really do need to stick
to our goals and moving forward and I think this project makes good sense.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, again we have a motion and a second on the
table. Further comments? Councilmember cole.
Cole: I think we are having to make some very hard choices as we try
to meet our renewable energy goals, but that we have to continue to
reduce our reliance on fossil fuels. And at the same time looking at the
future of carbon robbins so eloquently pointed out, we have to recognize
that that will apply to natural gas and to coal. And so we also have to
say that we appreciate our key account holders and the fact that the
motion is currently going to include them in the process. And I really
want to say thank you to the electric utility commission for all their
work that they've done on this. And we recognize that moving forward we
are going to have risk associated as we adopt renewable energy goals.
But austin is trying to be a leader in this area and leadership takes
risks. So I will be supporting the motion.
Mayor Wynn: Motion and a second on the table. Further comments?
McCracken: I apologize that I got here --
I apologize that I got here late. I wanted to speak for I had three
minute.
What is your name?
Roger duncan, research scientist. I understand that --
Mayor Wynn: We have a motion and a second on the table. You gave us
significant testimony last time we discussed this publicly, dr. duncan.
robert duncan, research scientist. The thing I want to say is there's
something per nishes about the webberville project and that is that it
gives the city the self-satisfied illusion that it's making real
progress, real progressive effort in controlling greenhouse gas
emissions. I think austin has now chosen a choice which does no such
thing. The proposed solar array will reduce the greenhouse gas emissions
by 3.5%. That's only one part in 200. When I say this I think that
people don't believe me, so I hope that roger duncan will confirm today
this this number is correct. So far in all his presentations and public
duncan has avoided mentioning the crucial question of how much energy
the array will actually produce per year. The council's whole grand plan
for 100 geg meg ga watts of solar capacity by 2020 will reduce the
city's carbon dioxide emissions by less than 1.8 percent. Austin's
rooftop rebate program, which is very expensive to austin energy and its
citizens, so far has reduced electrical carbon emissions by about 02
percent, two parts in 10,000. duncan for confirmation for correction.
Perhaps he estimates optimistically that it's three parts in 10,000.
It's very discourage to go hear the mayor pro tem make statements about
the obvious
(indiscernible) as he rejects the plan that could have reduced our
carbon emissions by 60% by 2016 and in favor of solar energy plan that
would reduce it only by 1 point #% by 2020. If the city of austin was
going to make a real concerted effort in fighting global warming it
would dramatically scale back its coal plant. The nuclear deal could
have accomplished this with 60% carbon reductions, but this was rejected
and this is an important part. Coal burning an fayette is ramped up and
down many times a day. Ironically it's because austin loves renewable
energy so much that austin energy will keep pumping out what I think are
obscene amounts of carbon at least through 2020. I still have hope that
the city will recognize that I'm saying something truthful here and do
the right thing.
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further comments? Council member shade? I met with many of those of
you who are in this room and I also I thank you for adding your input
and i look forward to supporting this understanding that there are areas
we need to be improving on. I guess ultimately, you know, I just came
down to the notion that this is not a luxury item, it's part of our
long-term generation plan, and I look forward to working with the
stakeholders, and I'm very appreciative of that addition to the motion
and i again thank you all and your voices have been heard. Thank you.
Motion and second on the table. 16 with additional points. Further
comments? Hearing none, all those in favor please say aye.
Aye.
Mayor wynn: aye. Opposed? Motion pass on a vote of 7-0.
[Applause] thank you all very much. I apologize to folks who have been
waiting for our noon citizen talk. Waiting to give your testimony. So if
you could take out your conversation to the foyer so we could take up
citizen communication. Council, one speaker has dropped off our list,
michael lum bring gave us -- -- excuse me, if you could take your
conversations out to the foyer. We have to continue business. Michael
lum by was kind enough to give us testimony earlier so without objection
I'd like to offer his three-minute slot to steven trucedale who needs to
get back to work. So welcome, steven.
Thank you, mayor, mayor, council, city manager. I appreciate you
working me in today. We had a very important issue, obviously, that's
been addressed and we had nearly 100 firefighters that showed up this
morning showing their support for any intervention in the proposed cuts
to firefighter staffing, and I think that just shows you how important
it is to our firefighters and their families. And since we've had that
conference this morning, the city manager put out a memo saying that he
is going to -- or has instructed the fire chief to delay the
implementation of a flexible staffing model to allow for more time for
community input and the possibility of exploring alternative solutions
and I want to thank the city manager for that and I think this is
exactly what we've been asking for. I know that several of the council
members have been working on this issue. Council members morrison,
shade, martinez and leffingwell, I want to specifically thank you for
your work to revisit this and encourage everyone to reconsider. I know
that we've been working towards four-person staffing long before I came
into the department. It started in the late '80s and we've gotten very
close to being fully staffed on our engines and ladders and I think it
would be a huge step backwards to back off from that. I understand that
we are faced with tough economic choices, but I think that public safety
and public safety staffing in particular, has to remain our top
priority. I think that there are other alternatives out there within the
fire department's budget. I think we can look at different means of
redeploying firefighters from support positions into firefighting
operations to ensure that those fire trucks are fully staffed, and I
know that the fire chief has said -- pointed out that we've been
fortunate to not have a line of duty death that's been attributable to
inadequate staffing, but I feel that we've been just lucky, just plain
lucky in that regard. I know that this is a nationwide goal, like i
said, international association of firefighters, and we've been working
on it in austin, and we've had recently, even since we've been adding
firefighters to fire trucks -- we have had several close calls. We've
had firefighters who have had to bail out of windows, that have been
burned and injured, and oftentimes we're seeing that on our ladder
companies that are not fully staffed. So again, I am optimistic that we
now have an opportunity to revisit the situation. I know that the austin
firefighters association and the men and women of the austin fire
department are ready to work with the fire chief and the command staff
to find alternative solutions and to preserve our four-person staffing
on as many trucks as possible and continue working forward to achieve
full four-person staffing. Thank you. thank you, mr. truesdale.
Mayor.
Mayor wynn: mr. martinez? steven, thank you all for coming down here
today and keeping us informed on what's going on. I want to be real
clear about something, though. You know, working with the other council
members in trying to find budget savings elsewhere, other than in
staffing in the fire department, is what we've been working on. This is
in no way, shape or form holding the fire department harmless from the
economic crisis we face, and I fully expect and believe that the fire
department can find savings. I just believe that we didn't work hard
enough to look for those. I was able to just in a curse ri look through
the budget come up with multiple suggestions for ways of creating
efficiency and/or reducing budget items that could restore the staffing
if we still needed to find that $200,000, and I also appreciate the city
manager holding off on the flexible staffing position so we can take a
look at some of these items. And I want to thank chief cur to spend time
over the next few weeks and find out how we find cost saving measures
without compromising firefighter safety and citizen safety. Thank you.
thank you, council member. So, council, our next speaker signed up for
citizen communication. Rae nadler-olenick. Welcome back, rae. You too
will have three minutes to be followed by sylvia mendoza.
Good afternoon, mayor wynn and council members. Last week I was going
over a short document called fluoride in drinking water, which contains
seriously misleading information. I had covered four points and I'll
finish the last two now. Point 5, quote, the beneficial aspects of
fluoride are widely recognized, unquote. It goes on to list supposedly
impartial groups endorsing fluoridation, the american dental
association, the texas dental association, the american medical
association, the world health organization, the centers for disease
control. Okay. how impartial are these groups? Answer, they're not. The
first -- the first three, the ada, the tda and the ama, despite their
reassuring names are marketing oriented organizations more focused on
the well-being of their membership than the public. They're about
profits as well as health. Since fluoride product sales are a huge part
of the dental profession's bottom line don't look to these trade groups
to kill their golden goose anytime soon. Then there's the cdc, the same
cdc that calls water fluoridation one of the 20th century's ten greatest
public health achievements, yet warns against it for infants. The cdc
that recently conceded that fluoride's benefits, if any are derived
topically but not ingested, still insists it belongs in the water, the
same cdc that claims it's more beneficial to tooth decay than healthy
diet. I kid you not, drinking fluoridated water is more important than
brushing your teeth, according to them. So much for the cdc. The fda is
not mentioned in this list for good reason. It hasn't weighed in on
fluoride since approving it for a rodent policy in the 1920's. The world
health organization endorses fluoride but with hesitation. They at least
take into account the total amount of fluoride a person is likely to
receive from all sources, an idea that's anathema to our american trade
organizations and alphabet agencies and it's present in our food from
the fluoridated pesticides widely sprayed on crops. Also produces charts
like this one, comparing the deadline of tooth decay in fluoridated
versus non-fluoridated country over many years and it clearly shows
there's no advantage to fluoridation but they support it anyway. Go
figure. Finally, point 6, the paper invokes the fda as guardian of our
safety. In fact, the fda's regulatory limits for fluoride in drinking
water are so outrageously high that thousands of their own employees
have rebelled with a petition denouncing the standards and demanding a
halt to all fluoridation. Those professionals are questioning authority
and so should we. Thank you. thank you, ura rae. The next speaker is
sylvia mendoza. You too will have three minutes to be followed by
melissa perkins. If you just hand that to council member cole, I'll bet
she'll kindly pass them down for you. Welcome.
Once again, I'm here to complain about yet something else that
evidently is not getting done. It is the responsibility of one of the
city of austin's departments to put up traffic signs wherever needed,
for instance, no right on red or watch for pedestrians or are no left
turn. Certain departments are not doing their job or being responsible
to provide a safe environment to the city of this city. I was under the
impression it was the responsibility of the city to meapt safety for
citizens. Some years ago I told a department employee that a sign was
need order bluff springs. It was put next to the bus stop. It cannot be
seen. I called and asked for it to be moved and put up top by the
traffic signal. It was moved but it didn't work well because people
would be crossing throughout the day. That was also the location of the
south austin transit center. What was the answer for it being moved? The
answer is because you requested it. I thought when I called the area
would be evaluated and the sign that worked best would be put up. That
wasn't the case. I was on the phone a third time requesting for a no
right on red to be ongoing and the sign that stated when pedestrians are
in crosswalk, be there also. It was put up but no one can read it. The
sign stating pedestrians are in crosswalks the lettering is too small.
For that matter, the sign could say hurry up or speed up when
pedestrians are in the crosswalk because that is what drivers do. Bus
driver are in the area on a daily basis and some can't make out the
sign. They just guess. I asked them to read what it said and they
couldn't. These pictures show how dangerous it is to cross in front of
traffic when there is a walk signal yet vehicles come within feet or a
few inches of hitting pedestrians. I I put my life on the line to take
some of these pictures. I certify vaid drivers and pedestrians in the
area where I live. I surveyed. It needs to be done right. They need to
get it right. I have visited the department located at 505 barton
springs road on several occasions. I have talked to anthony alvarado,
city of austin transportation department. I was told, quote, it is now
another department's responsibility. Sometimes I am told that this -- it
is this person's or that person's responsibility. Sometimes I'm told
there's a lot of red tape to get a sign moved. This all to no avail. I'm
sorry tired of doing the city of austin's job and since I'm not on the
payroll I took a bill to there. No one knew what to do with the bill but
it was accepted after a few calls were made. That doesn't mean I'll get
paid. I haven't received correspondence. East austin traffic sign up
great and walk through. Thank you. Oh, but on another note, about the
firefighters going down to a -- to three instead of four, I talked about
that subject about a year and a half ago. I spoke to give them
additional duties to help the city. I talked to the city council member
mike martinez that they could stuff envelopes or some other duties. Now
there are consequences for your actions. Now that decision is on the
agenda. You see, people from the outside looking in can sometimes be
better than the people who are in. Thank you. thank you, ms. mendoza.
Our next speaker is melissa perkins. Welcome, ms. perkins. You too will
have three minutes to be followed by gus pena.
Hello. Good afternoon. My name is melissa perkins and I'm here on
behalf of the citizens of northeast austin. Last week the press covered
piles of as a result vultures dumped near the lil landfill. The landfill
along with bfi wants to say that this species of bird migrates to the
power lines around the landfill. This is not fact qul. If it were --
factual. If it were fact we'd see them citywide but they migrate to a
sustained working force as we see on the working faces of the landfills
or at least I see on the working faises of the landfill every do. Both
bmi and bfi have been bad stewards and careless neighbors. The vultures
is the latest in a series of problems that act as harbingersers to exist
of these landfills. We realize that our trash has to go somewhere, but
we also, I think, are prepared as a city and as a public to find a
better solution, look for a better way. In 2002 bfi applied for a
modification to make changes to their existing permit. Nowhere in that
permit, that modification, did bfi indicate that seven years later there
would be a 300% increase in the drainage affecting a property owner's
land that's adjacent to their landfill. The same 300% increase has
continuously knocked down this property owner's fence, it's a 5-foot
fence, not a small fence, and as well caused flooding and now he finds
silt in his pond that's on his land. So again, just a symptomatic
problem of a larger issue. This 300% is not an arbitrary figure. It was
recently revealed in a court case that is ongoing against bfi. As we
continue to move through this process, we are asking for your support.
The city of austin now has the leverage to deny the newest permit. To
approve this permit would mean a seven-story expansion, and based upon
the information presented to you over these last two months, based on
bfi's history of not telling the truth and in the face of strong
community opposition, including concerned parents of sick children, we
ask you, as stewards -- we have entrusted our community to you. We
implore you to take this final opportunity to deny this permit. This is
not in line with austin's green goals, and we must, and I think we are
beginning to, but this is a wonderful opportunity to walk our talk. By
denying the permit before the city, you adhere to our desire as a
community to lead the nation's efforts in sustainability. Their bottom
line is money. Your bottom line should be quality of life. Thank you
very much. Have a nice day. thank you, melissa. Council member morrison,
of course?
I want to ask the city manager if we might be able to get a follow-up
report on that issue in terms of the drainage permit that is -- it's
currently in process, i think it's under review right now, and I think
it would be helpful if at least myself, and I'm sure my colleagues would
also appreciate it -- if we could get comments from watershed -- or
whoever is in charge of reviewing it, i presume it's them -- about our
-- the status of it and what our authority is in terms of -- and
responsibility in terms of approving or denying that permit.
That work is being done. We'd be happy to provide an update.
Morrison: thank you. and welcome back, mr. pena.
Good afternoon, mr. mayor. I'm gus pena. Let me read into the record
my comments under -- the comments under -- increase funding for social
service agencies, hoping also will benefit from the stimulus package
from washington if governor perry elects to endorse it in accordance
with it. Please don't lay off employees. Unemployment ranks are high
enough. Please pray for and support a veterans reentry programs. Men in
pt need treatment. Thank you for the community forms on the budget, mr.
city manager. That's very much appreciated. Do not cut funding for youth
and senior citizens program. One of the most important topics that I
ever had the pleasure of being associated with is of course the stimulus
package that is before the select committee on federal economic
stabilization funding. Representative jim doneham is the chair. I've
attended the frequent meetings and they solicited our income and key
issues are page 6 dealing with the homeless issue and to prevent being
homeless and also the people who are at risk to foreclosure of their
homes. I have also been in contact with governor perry's chief of staff
jay kimball, to urge that the governor really do support and accept the
stimulus package. A lot of the funding, of course they claim to have
strings attached to it. Forget about the strings. Go ahead like the
person said prior to me, the speaker, it's a quality of life issues. The
texas department of house communitying affairs, youth employment service
funding, child care, very important. I think in the report that i gave
you is -- I know dated january 27 but nonetheless there have been other
meetings and it's on the web and I know you have employees that can do
that. But it's very important to support this package. It will generate
economic development and other issues and it's important for the city of
austin. We know this is a bad, bad time for economy and the poor, the
needy, and the have-nots, but we need this to recharge and reenergize
our economy over here. Anyway, keep up the good work, mr. city manager.
Again, thank you for extra consideration, the fire department. It was
the early 1990s when we started with chief -- upper 1980's. I was
involved in process in agreeing to the four personnel firefighters on an
engine, but you know what? You have our prayers. Everybody has our
prayers because it's tough. We don't have the funding. It will get
worse. But remain cognizant that we're here to support you and help you
in any way we can in dialoguing and helpless enthe pain. Because it's
painful for the poor and needy and have-nots. We support our police
officers, firefighters, first responders, we all have to do something to
tighten our belts. I've lost enough weight i can tighten my belt. Like
paul robbins, I have a sense of humor. I don't want to share it. Anyway
we're here to support you-all and pray for our veterans and senior
citizens and youth and thank you very much for the hard work. Have a
good day. thank you, pena, and you're looking good. Let's see, robert
macdonald has signed up also to give us testimony. Welcome back, mr.
macdonald. You will be followed by jill chamberlain.
Good afternoon. Hi, will. Boy, I was out there for the jennifer gail
memorial, and you were out there, some of you that were out there aren't
up here right now. There's a little plaque down there. It says
homelessness, it is the essence of depression. It is immoral. It is
socially corrupt. And all city managers should know that. And it is an
act of violence. How violent is the act of homelessness? How many
homeless guys did we have in -- died in austin last year? 22. Had 136
homeless people died in austin. That's six times the rate of homicide.
Now, your police department is doing one hell of a job, or the criminals
aren't killing enough people or we are failing the homeless. Now, out of
three prospects, I think the police department is doing a pretty good
job. I like the fact that we don't have a lot of gang activity in
austin. That leaves only one. The correct answer is that we have failed
the homeless, and as a chronic homeless matter, as a business owner, I
find it appalling, and i think we have blood on our hands. Because I
have not done enough to stop homelessness in this town. And you people
up there have not done enough to adjust the fact that homelessness is
here and it is violent, very violent. Don't cut funding of the homeless,
because how many people are fixing to lose their homes? How many people
just got fired from high tech jobs that used to make a lot of money and
are not going to have the money to make their mortgage payment? They
don't get another -- if they don't get another high paying job. Do you
think those high paying people are going to do something like me, go
rake a yard so I can eat for the day? Or are they just going to get
depressed, sit around and wait till the unemployment goes away? We need
to do something. We need to really address the homelessness. It's
violent. It's way more violent than anything else out here. I'm not
worried about a nuclear plant melting down in texas. I applaud you for
approving the solar plant in webberville. I have another suggestion. The
city pays for streetlight poles every night, right? Do you want to
reduce your budget, your city budget? Let's put a solar panel on every
streetlight pole. Reduce the city budget directly. Take a portion of
that savings and designate it towards preventing homelessness and
stopping homelessness. $250 Million, how many light poles in austin can
i provide a solar panel for? And an inverter from -- what's that company
name? From in-phase, has single -- one panel on one pole directly fed
and to the electric grid. The city -- the power company already owns the
poles. You don't have to worry about buying land. You got thousands --
hundreds of thousands of poles. I don't know, a simple solution for a
big problem. thank you, mr. macdonald. Let's see, jill chamberlain would
like to give us testimony. Welcome, jill. You too will have three
minutes to be followed by mike abkowitz.
Thank you. I'm jill chamberlain. I'm the property owner at the
waterfront, and I'm also a boat owner who docks my boat there and
regularly uses the eastern portion of the lake which is really the only
portion wide enough to sail. I'll show you -- here's a picture of my --
why don't you just hand them to councilman. We'll pass them down, save
you some time. Thank you.
And the alignment you just approved this morning of course will
render it unusable from the dock because the alignment a that was shown
on the map, as you know, blocks us in, literally makes a moat, a 4 to
6-foot high moat that there's no way a sailboat could pass under them.
Not just sailboats, there are also fishing boats I've seen that are
hire. I'm not the only sailboat. There's a boat launch right across the
way at fiesta gardens for the same reason that this is the only part of
the lake wide enough for sailing. And I'm very disappointed that you
were goaded into approving this boardwalk site alignment. You just voted
for the wrong plan. This was not the plan that was approved by the parks
commission meeting on january 26. I was there. They specifically had the
other three routes on there with a strong recommendation that there be
due consideration to work with the private property owners. The plan
that you approved has been condemned by all the neighborhood
associations in the related area. Matter of fact, the only organization
I know of that is for it is the town lake foundation. You-all kept
saying it was not about funding, it's just about moving forward. This is
just about the alignment. But it's the alignment that's the big problem.
And once again, you directed the parks department and the project
manager to work more with the property owners and the public in trying
to move more of the trail on land, but they -- the project manager and
the parks department have repeatedly ignored our suggestion of a better
way to complete the trails, in specific -- specifically around the
waterfront area. This would be a much more environmentally sound way
because it's 100% on land. Obviously whenever you're doing any kind of
dredging, you're necessarily going to do some damage to the environment,
and completing the trail on land would be much more minimally invasive.
It allows trail users to enjoy a natural environment, not an artificial
walkway 6 feet above the lake, which they don't actually have access to
this lake. It's a much, much cheaper route, if not, frankly, free. That
is that my time? And that is of course the cd route, but I'm very
disappointed you went ahead with approving without that on the plan.
Thank you. thank you, ms. chamberlain. I do know that there's lots of
designs still to be had, including the whole concept of appropriate
sailboat access to current property owners on the lake.
The one note that was on that map.
Mayor wynn: thank you.
Thank you. our next speaker is mike abkowitz. Sorry if I mispronounce
that. You'll have three minutes to be followed by girard kinney.
Thank you, mayor and council members members. I'm mike abkowitz,
president of the board of front steps. It manages the resource for the
homeless, the arts under contract with the city. We provide transitional
house thanking and last year a piloted recute ra tif center for homeless
clients exiting the hospital. My comments address the community
development consolidated plan. The benefits of providing housing for
homeless people have been well documented from both cost-effectiveness
and humanitarian points of view. Despite the success of a every day
affordable housing in the austin community, due to unfounded
neighborhood fears it is unfortunate that several potential programs
never came to fruition in the past year. We cannot give you up. I
encourage the city council to join echo, the end community homeless
organization, in working with communities so that we can overcome the
myths and prejudices regarding homeless people. The consolidated plan
should include funding for more single room occupancy facilities as well
as for a campus concept of housing as advocated by mobile loaves and
fishes. It should include smaller facility, such as boarding homes, that
are less threatening to neighbors. Boarding homes are appropriate for
some clients, particularly those who need assistance. Unfortunately much
of the existing boarding homes in the community are run for capital
basis. Finally, the consolidated plan should include funding for
homeless clients who use public services such as hospitals and shelters.
These clients are among the hardest to serve. What other cities have
done and saving considerable tax dollars while improving behavioral
outcomes for the clients served. In conclusion, the efforts to house
homeless people have just begun. We need to continue our
efforts to provide an array
of housing that meets a wide
variety of needs.
Thank you for your time and
consideration and continued
support of the arts and
front steps is available to
assist you in any manner
that we can.
Thank you very much.
thank you
mike, and for your service.
And finally, girard kinney.
Welcome back.
You'll have three minutes.
Thank you, mayor, and
members of the council.
I am here representing the
cherrywood neighborhood
association.
For about a decade we have
been working on a little --
a little park, a little
pocket park in our
neighborhood called
cherrywood green.
The picture you see there is
when we completed the
drinking fountain that we
built last year, finally
completed last year.
It was a collaboration with
a couple of artists and
myself in the neighborhood.
how many
architects does it take to
build?
Just one architect there,
but there's a lot of
hardworking neighborhood
folks.
The -- what has happened
is -- during this whole
decade we've been trying to
get rid of some very, very
ugly cables that hang across
the middle of the little
park.
We call it a park.
The city has been calling it
a drainage way, but I think
recently they determined
maybe it actually was a
park.
I do want to thank council
member cole and her staff
for helping us with this.
We're making some good
progress, we think.
But the next picture you see
coming up here is when -- is
the way we learned that
at&t, who has cables out on
that ugly pole that's in our
park that we've been trying
to get removed for a decade,
the way we found out that
they were about to add two
new telecommunication boxes
next to their existing box,
actually offset picture off
to the left, and so we, of
course, were very upset
about it, and not only where
they were putting it but the
fact that looked like there
were going to be -- this
were not only going to be
not removing the cables but
adding to them.
So we got in touch with
them.
At first they were not
really responsive because
they said their deal really
is with the city and not
with the neighborhood.
But in dealing -- in working
with them over time we have
come to an agreement with
them that would give our
support of them having the
boxes, not where it's shown
on this picture, but nearby,
and they have agreed to
relocate a tree -- or to try
to relocate a tree.
We don't know whether it's
going to live or not and
they're not guaranteeing it,
but we're trying to relocate
it, and that they will bury
cables to the site -- the
new cables, not the old
ones.
And so this -- for one
thing, I want to thank at&t
for their -- you know, they
have -- they have worked
with us on this, but there
is a much larger issue here
that has to do with the
telecommunication companies
throughout the city and
throughout parks throughout
the city and throughout
public spaces.
There needs to be a
notification process where
when they get -- they have
to get a permit to do this
stuff and when they do that
the neighborhood
associations need to get
notified ahead of time so
that we have an opportunity
to talk to them about it.
With bridges, with reclaimed
water towers, with electric
substations and with
overhead utility lines,
design matters.
It matters throughout the
city and there needs to be a
better process and we want
to be a part of it.
Thank you.
thank you,
mr. kinney.
Council, that concludes this
segment of citizen
communication at this week's
city council meeting.
There being no more
discussion items on our
agenda prior to at least our
afternoon briefings later
today, without objection we
can now go into closed says
071 of the
open meetings act, take up a
single closed session agenda
32, legal issues
regarding possible
settlement of an epa claim
related to the malone
service company superfund
site, texas city, texas.
So we're now in closed
session.
I anticipate -- you know,
this session lasting for an
hour or so, taking us to our
afternoon briefing that i
suspect will occur sometime
just prior to 3:00 p.m.
We are now in closed
session.
Thank you.
S
Mayor Wynn: At this
time I'll call back to order
this meeting of the austin
city council.
It is approximately
3:38 p.m.
We've been in recess now for
a couple of hours, having
earlier finished our
executive executive session
agenda for the day.
We took up item 32, legal
issues regarding a possible
settlement of an e.p.a.
Claim.
No decisions were made, so
we have ended our executive
session agenda for the day.
Now back in open session,
we'll go to our afternoon
briefings that will then
take us into our zoning
matters today.
Our first staff briefing
this afternoon is on
neighborhood housing and
community development's
austin housing market study.
margaret
shaw.
mayor,
councilmembers, city
manager, city attorney.
My name is margaret shaw,
director of neighborhood
housing and community
development.
I'm joined today by heidi
agler of the bbc research
and consulting firm in
denver who is going to
present their findings and
recommendations related to
the housing market study of.
Before getting started i
wanted to give a brief
context and background on
why the city commissioned
this study.
First and foremost, in order
to receive federal grants
from the united states
department of urban house --
of housing and urban
development, federal
regulations require that
participating jurisdictions
such as austin prepare a
housing market analysis and
needs assessment of the low
to moderate income residents
every five years.
That every five-year period
is coming up this year with
our consolidated plan and
data from the bbc report
fulfills this report and
their data study and market
gap analysis will be
included in the fy 2009-2014
consolidated plan, which is
underway, the final report
on
august 15th, 2009.
Next on june 7th, 2007 the
austin city council passed
resolution number 59, which
supported the
recommendations of the
affordable housing incentive
taskforce and one of those
recommendations was to
conduct a housing market
study.
And council included in the
fy 2007-'08 budget $3,000 to
complete that study.
This report fulfills those
recommendations.
I do want to add we did not
use the full $300,000 for
this study, only about
150,000 and then another 100
of that went to downtown
plan's affordable housing
recommendations.
The housing market study was
also identified by numerous
other organizations and
boards and commissions as an
important planning tool,
notably the general
obligation bond oversight
committee and the
african-american quality of
life neighborhood
sustainability subcommittee
raised the issue of having a
comprehensive market study
of austin's housing needs.
Bbc research was select bid
a competitive purchasing
process and stakeholders in
the public had extensive
interactions on this process
from commenting on the scope
of work before the request
for proposal was issued to
interviews, stakeholder
meetings and focus groups
conducted by bbc this year.
Council approved the
contract award on august of
last year, 2008, and the
contract was executed on
september 15th.
Bbc based these findings and
recommendations on their
research, interviews and
professional expertise.
Today's briefing and the
complete study are available
on the city of austin's
website so that's city of
austin.org/housing.
The presentation will be
posted currently.
The report was posted
yesterday.
And bbc will also be here
tomorrow to present the
public, the same
,
so that's friday, march 6th
here in council chambers at
city hall at nine a.m.
Tomorrow to present the same
presentation and be open to
questions and answers from
the public.
And I'd like to add by
accepting this report, the
staff does not endorse or
concur with these
recommendations, but after a
few weeks while we've had
time to digest this report,
we'll bring the bbc
representatives back to town
so they can have another q
and a session with the
public.
I want to stress that
throughout this process it's
been an open, cordial and
i
respect them for all the
work they've done and we
look forward to continuing
the dialogue on increasing
affordable housing in had
austin.
Thank you very much.
With that I'd like to turn
it over to heidi.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you.
Welcome back, heidi.
Thank you for the
introduction, margaret and
welcome, everyone.
It's nice to be here this
afternoon.
I want to talk a little bit
about who bbcs I don't think
we've been in front of you
for sometime.
We're a denver-based
consulting firm.
Our only office is in
denver.
We have a number of
specialty areas.
One is housing and real
estate, which I manage.
We also do a lot of resort
and recreation work, natural
resources, arts and culture.
We've been around for more
than 40 years.
The folks you will be
hearing from today and
tomorrow morning are myself,
I'm the managing director
and as I mentioned I direct
our housing practice.
That includes doing housing
market areas, consolidated
plans for housing studies.
I have spoken numerous times
for h.u.d. on fair housing.
I came to bbc from the
federal reserve where I did
economic research.
I'm also a former bank
regulator with the fdic.
Joining me here today and
who will be presenting
tomorrow is rachel thompson,
she's an associate with bbc.
She came to us from our
metropolitan planning
organization, the denver
regional council of
governments.
I do want to make sure folks
understand that we are
trained as economists.
We look at hour housing --
at your housing market from
a supply and demand
perspective.
We're not planners or
attorneys.
This is an economic-based
study.
Just a sample of the some of
the things we've done
recently, we have quite a
presence in the southwest,
including texas, and I've
done quite a lot of work in
colorado and new mexico over
the last few years.
I want to start off by
getting a basic definition
of housing affordability.
Many of the preparations i
do I'm asked kind of halfway
through the presentation
could you stop and define
affordability for us.
government
standard that the housing
department needs to manage
too and cities and states
manage to when they are
processing grants for
applicants.
This is based on the area
median income where you
might hear this as the
median family income, ami or
mfi.
That figure was $69,100 for
austin as of 2007.
We take that and we break
that into different
categories of affordability
respecting the government's
definition of affordability.
When we think about what a
household can pay in housing
costs we use the industry
definition that no more than
30% of their gross household
income should go toward
housing cost, and that
includes utilities and
taxes.
Margaret talked a little bit
about the purpose of the
housing market study.
In general the city hired us
to create a factual
framework to support policy
makers, staff and community
leaders and decision making
related to austin's housing
market.
They wanted to provide a
data center, the foundation
for city and regional long
range planning efforts and
provide recommendations to
best practices.
What we've seen that has
worked successfully in other
communities.
I'm not going to walk
through it in detail, but it
gives our scope of work.
In general we did a lot of
data analysis.
We used a number of primary
data sources.
We didn't rely a lot on
secondary data.
We collected a lot of data
ourselves and we relied
heavily on local data.
As margaret mentioned, part
of the study will
consolidate your h.u.d.
Planning process.
We do a lot of consolidated
plans, so we wanted to make
sure you weren't doing two
studies and the data we
collected would work for the
consolidated plan.
We did a number of community
medina counties which I'll
talk -- community meetings
which I'll talk about in a
moment.
The next two slides list the
number of data that we
relied lied on and collected
as part of this study.
You will just note that we
used a number of local
projections such as data on
population, projections from
the city demographer.
census
bureau.
Where we didn't have local
data we used they're survey,
so I'm not using 2000 census
data.
These are estimates from
2007.
We received a gracious
donation from the austin
board of realtors that gave
us all units that had been
on the market, listed or for
sale, for the past 10 years,
that allowed us to do a lot
of comparisons.
The for sale market.
We also used data from
austin investors interest
for your rental market and
compared it to other sources
as well.
Finally we did three
different survey efforts to
make sure we captured the
various populations in
austin.
We did a statistical
significant telephone survey
of residents representative
of the overall.
We did a subsample of low
income citizens as part of
that telephone 98 and then
we made an online survey
available to residents
making less than $100,000
per year.
So a variety of ways to
participate in the process.
We also as margaret
mentioned interviewed and
did focus groups with a
number of different people
of a variety of interests
throughout the course of the
study.
We estimate we talked to
probably about 100
individuals throughout the
course of the study.
They represented affordable
advocates, policy advisers,
the neighborhoods,
affordable housing
developers, private sector
real estate developers,
business leaders and
representatives from large
employers.
I do want to start off
before I talk about the
demographics and the housing
market, and certainly
acknowledge the wide variety
of resources that austin has
at its disposal.
Main of these efforts are
local efforts so in many of
the areas in which I work
cities rely on federal funds
which we know has been
declining in the past and
certainly inadequate to meet
needs.
So the recent recently was
successful in passing a
general obligation bond to
fund affordable housing
activities.
You're one of the few cities
in the nation to be able to
did that.
You provide funds annually
to support affordable
housing activities.
You have a policy, the
redevelopment proceeds of
city owned property will go
to affordable housing.
I do want to reiterate these
are very progressive
policies, unusual to see
altogether in one city.
So the remaining of my
presentation is going to
talk a bit about
demographics.
I'll talk specifically about
housing needs, the housing
gap is where we've done the
modeling effort that I'll
talk specifically about, the
mismatch in the market.
Then we'll talk a bit about
austin's future.
Let's run through some
demographics.
Current population is about
750,000.
Austin makes up currently
about 47%.
City of austin 47% of the
mfa.
However between 1970 through
2007 austin represented 34%
of the growth that occurred
in the mfa, meaning that
growth was much stronger
outside the city of austin.
When I'm talking about a
household, I want to make
sure that folks understand
that a household includes
all persons who occupy a
housing unit, whether
related or unrelated.
The way that the census
defines a family, which is
different, is a related
party.
We use a household
comparison because that
brings an unrelated parties
such as students, couples
who are living together who
may not be married and
single people.
We look at austin's
residents overall, they're
mostly non-family
households.
19 Percent are married
couples with children.
On the far right hand graph
gives you the numbers of the
population by age.
And on the bottom axis you
can see the proportion of
austin's overall population
at these different age
cohorts represent.
The interesting finding when
we did the age analysis was
that adults age 18 to 24 are
declining as an overall
proportion of your
population.
And the number of baby
boomers consistent with
national trends is
increasing.
We did our income analysis,
we found that about
one-third of your households
are moderate to high
incomes, those are
households earning more than
$83,000 a year.
About 18 percent of people
in austin live in poverty,
equivalent to about 129,000
people.
And we look as the chart
does at poverty by age
cohort, we learn that the
age group that has the
highest level of poverty in
austin are your children as
well as your 18 to 24 age
cohort, which will be
represented by students as
well.
In most cities in which i
work children represent the
largest proportion or have
the highest incidence of
poverty, so this is unusual
especially for an urban
area.
We did a lot of mapping, a
lot of gis analysis in our
report.
This map in particular shows
the location of low income
households in austin.
Generally concentrated in
east and south austin as
well as around the u.t.
Area.
We looked what the we call
tenure, meaning home
ownership versus renter
occupied households.
You were estimated to have
about 54% of your households
that are renters, 46% that
are owners.
I did a little exercise
where I looked at what would
it take for austin to reach
a 50% home ownership.
And to get there in the next
10 years, with 85 percent of
your new households would
need to be homeowners.
The conclusion is that
rental housing will play a
large part in housing
austin's residents in the
future.
The graphic here shows
tenure or the distribution
of home ownership and renter
occupied units over time.
We'll talk a little bit
about home prices.
The median for sale price of
all units, all units that
were for sale or listed
during 2008 was $240,000.
When we break that -- that
down by product type we see
73 persz of those were did
ched single-family
homes.
26% Of that total were
single-family attached
homes, condos and seven
percent were multi-family.
It's a pretty small part of
your market.
That would be consisting of
duplexes and triplexes.
Over the last 10 years the
median price has increased
by about $100,000.
So that means that the
average household would need
to earn $35,000 more in
order to afford the median
priced home.
And if we look at teacher
salaries, for example, over
the last 10 years and look
at average wages, their
salaries have increased by
$10,000.
So that compares with a
30,000-dollar increase that
they would need to have
occur in order to buy the
median priced home.
So what we've seen happen
over the last 10 years is
that the austin mfa has
played a bigger role in
providing home ownership and
renter occupied housing for
your workers.
There's more housing stock
available than now than in
1998, and that's due in part
to some of the policies that
you have encouraged which
have spurred development in
austin.
The new areas of housing
density that are affordable
for moderate income
households have occurred
mostly outside of austin.
And this map here compares
the location of
single-family detached units
that are affordable at 81%
to 95% of the mfi's.
That's folks making between
55 and $65,000.
In 1998 to 2008.
And what you see when you
look closely on that map is
that there are parts of the
city where density has
increased.
The darker shading indicates
darker levels of density or
more units that are
concentrated in those areas,
but you also see a spreading
of that density outside city
boundaries over the last 10
years.
This graphic here compares
the price distribution of
homes that were on the
market in 2008 by type, so
we have attached housing at
the top, which are condos,
single-family detached
housing in the middle.
These are your detached
single-family homes.
And then multi-family are
duplexes and triplexes there
on the bottom.
What's very interesting when
we examine is this that most
of those units are priced
for households making
between 50,000 and 100,000
regardless of product type.
That's where all of the
peaks are occurring in the
market.
There's not a great
tremendous price
differential by product
type.
We examined the condo market
in particular since there's
been so much activity in the
condo mark and concluded,
this compares price
distribution of condos
between 1998 and 2000.
The market is not doing a
whole lot to alleviate
affordable housing pressure
for home ownership because
the prices have gone up so
much over the last 10 years.
Average rent in austin was
$843 a month.
That's as of the third
quarter 2008 according to
austin investor's interests.
Austin's rents are slightly
higher compared to similar
cities.
You're about where seattle
is when we look at the
median rent in 2000 and
2007.
We asked renters as part of
our survey, three different
survey efforts, if they
wanted to be homeowners.
And a good proportion of
renters said I'd like to
continue to rent, but the
majority of renters for all
of our samples said that
they would desire to become
a homeowner if they could.
So let's talk about the
options for renters to
become homeowners first and
then we'll talk about low
income renters and their
options for renting.
Households earning $50,000
who want to be homeowners
can afford about 36% ayear
attached market, but
remember that's smaller in
numbers than your detached
market and 16 percent of
your detached units.
So if I am a renter and I am
making $50,000 a year and i
want to buy in the city of
austin, I can choose from
16% of single-family
detached homes.
If I'm making $75,000, i
have a lot more options, but
only 13 percent of your
renters earn this much.
So therefore we conclude
based on our analysis of
your for-sale data that
there is a need for homes
priced between $113,000 and
$240,000 to enable renters
making between 35,000 and
$75,000 to be able to buy in
austin's market.
And this is what we all our
gaps analysis, which is a
modeling effort that I won't
go into in great detail, but
we take our households, we
separate them by tenure, so
we take our homeowners and
our renter households and
you will see this in the
thirdty of boxes there, 46%
of our households are owners
and 54% of your households
are renters.
Let's start with the owners
on the left-hand side.
Of those 141,000 households,
if we look at increasing
converting renters from
homeowners and look at their
price options, we learn from
analysis of data in 2008
that renters earning less
than $35,000 a year could
afford three percent of your
detached home and 10 percent
of your attached home.
Not a whole lot to choose
from.
If you're earning $50,000 a
year, and I mentioned this
in the slide prior, you can
afford 16% of your detached
homes and 36%, a little more
than a third of your
attached homes.
Now, if I'm making $75,000
or more I have a lot more
options.
I can on afford 44% of
detached homes and about 64%
of attached homes.
The far right-hand column
describes the rental needs
in austin, which I haven't
talked about yet.
Bear with me as I walk
through this column here.
Of your 54% of households
that are renters, that's
equivalent to 166,000
households, 27% of those
households earn less than
$20,000 a year.
About 45,000 households.
If I take those households
and compare them to the
number of rental units that
are affordable at their
level so they're not paying
any more than 30% of their
household income in costs
and rent and utilities, i
find that only four percent
of your rental units are
available to serve those
folks.
And that leaves me a gap of
threive thousand 600 iewns.
37,600 Units.
Those would be units serving
people making less than
$20,000 a year.
We talk about this in the
report.
We do a little analysis
trying to ascertain what
proportion of those renters
are students since you have
such a large student
population.
And based on an analysis of
census data, some data that
we examine from the city
demographer, we believe that
about 25 percent of your
lower income renters are
student.
So in examining that gap if
you wanted to take out the
student effect, you would
multiply that 37600 by 35%
and that would give you the
non-student gap.
Let's talk a little bit
about austin's future and
what we project will happen.
Austin is a very desirable
place to live by many
measures.
It's hard not to google
austin and come up with
many, many references to
what a wonderful city it is,
how affordable it is
relative to other
communities and how much
growth is likely to
continue, mainly because of
the industries that you have
attracted here.
Mayor Wynn: Weird pops
up a lot too on google and
austin.
I didn't actually
specifically google for
weird.
But certainly a
characteristic that attracts
people as here as, we think
your growth is going to
continue except in some type
of very extreme
circumstance.
And growth is likely to put
pressure on housing supply.
And any community in which
supply is constrained and
demand exists and demand is
how ground zeroing, housing
prices go up.
This graphic here, we did a
little comparison using
something called the
national association of home
builders home ownership
opportunity index.
It's a real quick way to
compare housing costs,
affordability across large
metropolitan areas.
And basically what it does
is it looks at the shares of
homes affordable to a median
income family.
So what you see here is
about 62 percent of your
homes are affordable to the
median income family.
That's a higher number that
in many communities such as
san diego, seattle,
certainly san francisco and
new york.
Your median home price is
relatively low compared to
all these surrounding areas.
So I do believe because of
the quality of life here,
the employment growth and
the general attractiveness
of austin that you are
poised to continue to grow.
Assuming that you will
continue to grow, let's talk
about how you can grow.
We work in a lot of
communities in colorado that
have adopted -- that have
intentionally adopted slow
growth policies.
They've intentionally slowed
their growth by restricting
the number of building
permits they will allow in a
different year, in a given
quarter.
And as a result of that,
these communities are
communities in which there
are a lot of demand to live,
housing price goes up and we
see a leap frog effect in
that the communities outside
of those end up filling that
demand and growing rather
rapidly.
Cities can increase density
to try and capture more of
that growth internally.
And we've seen this in a lot
of communities in which
we've worked in which cities
grow up a little bit more
and they relax the density
limitations so that that
gives the market a bit more
of an opportunity to respond
to the pressure of demand.
Consequence of a slow growth
policy which we see a lot --
certainly see in our
backyard in boulder,
colorado is increased
sprawl.
So if you're not meeting
that natural demand for
housing and someone outside
of your community is, then
you're likely to just grow
outward if you're not
growing up as well.
The reality that I want to
note is that your growth
will probably be a mix of
the above.
You can't control all the
market forces.
But it is important to
strike balance and make sure
you are providing housing
for the variety of workers
and resident in your
community.
So our recommendations which
we outline in more detail in
a chapter can be cat dpor
rise understand three
different buckets here.
The first is to build on the
strengths.
I mention understand an
earlier slide all the
wonderful things that austin
has been doing to address
affordable housing, but
being such an affordable
place to live and being that
you will have growth
pressures, you probably need
to keep working on that and
do more in the future.
To the extent you can,
continue to seek out new
financial resources to
supplement the existing
affordable housing resources
that you have.
Continue to develop the
innovative affordable
housing strategies that you
have in place.
Look and see what other
communities are doing and
embrace those if you feel
like those are right for
austin and continue to
maintain strong partnerships
that you have in place with
affordable housing
developers, housing
authorities, private sector
developers to keep
increasing that supply of
affordable housing stock.
We also recommend that
austin challenge itself to
raise the barbie setting
affordable housing targets.
In many communities in which
we work, not only
communities that have
inclusionnary zoning
policies, affordable housing
targets are set as something
to manage to.
So a certain proportion of
your rental stock would be
affordable housing or you
would monitor your for sale
stock -- for sale stock to
ensure that a certain
proportion are affordable to
people below fist thousand
dollars per year, for
example.
We recommend that austin
consider establishing a land
bank.
It's a very easy process to
set up a land bank in order
to acquire property or put
city-owned property in a
land bank that could have
the potential for howcial
development in the future or
could be traded for other
land that has more potential
for affordable housing
development.
Establish al trn active
housing -- alternative
housing sources.
One of the recommendations
we have is to expand your
existing community
development financial
institution or cdfi network
to include loans that enable
private and public sector
developers to get interest
rate to get loans at very
low interest and acquire
properties quickly and then
they're taken out by cdbg
and other loan sources so
they can act quickly to
acquire land or acquire
properties to rehab and then
leverage those dollars with
other financing sources.
Collaborate across city
departments to identify and
evaluate barriers to
affordable housing
development.
We do understand that you
are -- you may in the future
launch a comprehensive plan
process.
We did not do a detailed
analysis of barriers to
housing development as part
of our study, but we talked
to a lot of folks who helped
us identify barriers which
are outlined in detail in
our report.
And we recommend -- our
position is that all cities
can generally do better when
they're looking at the
development process that
barriers to affordable
housing development exists
in all cities and that's
something to keep on top of
and look at and make sure
your city departments are
working together to mitigate
those barriers.
Fieply, focus on the --
finally, focus on the
future.
We understand you have a lot
of limitations because of
texas state law.
You can't do many things
that are done in colorado
and california and many
other communities in which
we work, but to explore
alternatives and working
within the constraints of
what you can and cannot do,
just keep being a leader on
best practices models around
affordable housing for
texas.
We also recommend that the
city evaluate the zoning and
development process,
particularly the
neighborhood comprehensive
plans and how those
interface with the city's
comprehensive plan overall
to make sure there's
adequate zoning, adequate
opportunity and that the
process is streamlined for
affordable housing
development.
And finally, examine
improving development
incentives to produce
affordable housing, look at
your fee waivers, look at
depsty bonuses.
We're big fans of density
and are embracing density.
I think it's a good solution
to face affordable housing.
So with that I'm happy to
take any questions.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you.
Actually, before council, on
an earlier slide, I saw on
income you showed that
austin has relatively
high -- I think median
family income, almost
$70,000, something like
that.
A correlated number was that
a third or so of our
citizens are characterized
as being moderate to high
income.
And on the same slide i
think it showed that about
18 percent of our citizens
are in poverty.
So I guess I wanted to see
if off the top of your head
if you could help me
understand that dynamic or
that ratio.
That is, part of me thinks
maybe it sounds good.
Maybe that's not a good
thing and that somehow it
implies perhaps a stronger
dichotomy than in other
cities.
So can you help me
understand that income
issue?
A couple of things that
require definitions.
When we talk about poverty,
we talk about people.
And when we're talking about
household income, I'm
talking about households.
There's a bit of an apples
to oranges there so that
18 percent of people that
I'm saying are living in
poverty are people.
And where that gets
interesting is when we have
large household sizes.
If we think about the
household of let's say five,
that is living under the
poverty level, they would be
counted once when we're
doing a low income -- as a
low income household, but
they would be counted five
times if I'm counting people
in poverty.
So there's a little bit of
an al else to oranges there,
but poverty is generally
reported and thought of in
terms of population, in
terms of people.
18 Percent of people in
poverty is really neither
high nor low.
It may be a little bit on
the high end for a
metropolitan area, but i
didn't have a strong
reaction when I saw that.
So I wouldn't say that
you're off the mark there,
particularly with your
student population.
That's not being adjusted
for students.
So I think your poverty
level for an urban area is
probably about average, i
wouldn't worry too much
about that.
When we looked at -- we have
a graphic in the report
that's a pie chart where we
took people and we broke
them into those h.u.d.
Categories, 0 to 30% of mfi
extremely low income, low
income.
We were very prized, it's as
if I took a pizza and cut it
into fifth equally.
So you really have a fairly
balanced.
We don't have the bar bell
effect that I see in some
communities.
Right now you seem to have a
fairly distributed
distribution of people by
income level.
You don't have these large
proportions in any one
category.
By comparison in denver, 41%
of our renters are low
income.
So we have a much lower
income distribution in our
renter population than you
all do.
Mayor Wynn: Okay.
My left question then -- my
last question then, and you
may have touched on it, and
you may have thought through
it the way you all as
economists do and had a
slide about it, but two
figures that also stuck in
my head were the median
family income of 69,000 and
change I think it was, and
then the median home price
of 240,000.
I never saw those two actual
sort of compared.
I guess my question is,
they're never the same
people, so if your median
family income in your city
is 69,100 and the median
sales price of a home is
240,000, help me analyze.
Is it appropriate to even
analyze it.
Yeah.
Basically what you do, and
it's a little bit what the
housing opportunity index
does.
The quickest way to do it it
is take that median income
and multiply it by three and
say someone earning 70,000,
median household earning
$70,000 a year could afford
a home of approximately
210,000.
And that's a real quick way
that people talk about
affordability in many
community.
The housing opportunity
index that I showed is a bit
of a more precise look at
that because it's taking in
more housing costs than --
it's not ju yeug that simple
multiplier.
In simple we drill down a
little bit further and you
will see that in the report
graphically as well as in
our tables.
I don't worry as much about
that median as people who
are earning different income
levels.
And I talk about
affordability by income
level because I think that's
easier for folks to grasp
than to always go back toed
median and have to do that
calculation in your head.
You will see our report
segmented into -- much as
our graphic does here,
renters earning less than
35, earning less than
50,000.
We typically use income
ranges.
I think it's more
accessible.
Mayor Wynn:
Councilmember martinez.
Martinez: Hi some
similar comments on some --
I had some similar comment
on some of the numbers that
your presentation has in it
in that you talk about
renters versus home
ownership and maybe trying
to increase home ownership.
Are you talking about
renters as individuals and
then ownership as
households?
Venters are actually in
terms of -- renters are
actually in terms of renter
households.
Martinez: So when we
say 50% -- 54% of the
citizens are renters, if we
achieve 50% home ownership,
a single home may have two
adults and two children.
How does that -- how do you
extrapolate that out?
It's a very good
question.
That household of two adults
and two children would be
treated as one unit.
So one renter household.
So I look at their household
income and look at what they
can afford in the market.
So I add up -- if there are
two earners, I would add up
their income and treat that
as their purchasing power.
If there was austin earner,
I would -- if there was one
earner I would add that up
and treat it as the
purchasing power.
What's difficult to
understand the way we've
done that for this gap
summary versus what you
typically see when you all
are being presented with how
the city is going to fund
programs through cdbg is
thinks in terms
of median family income
adjusted by family size.
So for programmatic reasons,
when you're doing grant
funding, there's a more
specific adjustment, more
detailed adjustment that's
being done to qualify
households for the programs.
Martinez: Okay.
Thank you.
Mayor Wynn:
Councilmember morrison.
Morrison: Thank you.
I appreciate that work.
It's a lot of very
interesting information and
informative.
On the slide that says what
we know about austin's
residents where you talk
about the 18 percent of
people that are living below
the poverty threshold, i
thought -- can you talk
about exactly what that
poverty threshold is for --
I think that's illustrative
for all of us trying to
absorb this information?
What are we talking about?
It's adjustd for family
size so poverty is hard to
understand.
Poverty is consistent -- the
definition is consistent for
every community in the
nation.
So your poverty threshold is
the same as poverty
threshold in the nation.
It's $21,000 or less for a
family of four.
Morrison: That's not
very much.
No, it's not.
Morrison: I know one of
our organizations here in
town did a study and
probably this is done all
over and that is what does
it really take to have -- to
sustain a safe household.
And that comes out to be
more like twice the property
level, I think, for the city
of austin.
So I think that's important
information for us to just
keep in mind.
And then on the gap summary,
I think that's really
helpful information.
And the way I see it, if we
look at -- if we were
looking at renters, the 54%
of the renters, you said,
for instance, especially if
we adjust for students it
looks like we have a gap of
rental units of about, say,
roughly 30,000.
And that's just when we're
looking at the folks that
make below $20,000 a year.
Is it safe to assume that
there are folks in the 20 to
40,000-dollar income range
that also can't -- that
there's a gap in the housing
for them also?
It's interesting.
The way the gaps work is
typically they starting to
away once rents reach a
certain level and then they
come back at the highest
renter income level.
And I see that in most
communities.
I would caution communities
that because I'm showing a
gap for high income renters
doesn't mean you should
build a lot of high income
luxury rentals.
A lot of time they're
renting because they're
saving for a home.
There may be penitentiary-up
demand there but I don't
have a good sense of where
that demand is.
This is where your broadest
gap is.
Is goes away after that.
Most renter markets are
fairly narrow.
Rental units might be priced
between 850 and $1,200 and
the large portion of the
distributions fall in that
narrow band.
What we see is that
everybody making less than
the incomes that can afford
that narrow band of rents
have a housing need and the
folks making more than that.
This is why your core is.
Saits safe to say that folks
making more than that don't
have as great a need because
they have higher incomes and
they're finding units they
can afford.
I want to note on the gap as
well we do take into account
your section 8 vouchers,
public housing units.
So all of the subsidizing
units that are out there
that exist on the market are
taken into account there.
Morrison: It's interest
information because it does,
as you say, sets a target
for us and that target is
for today.
Five years from now probably
even a bigger.
Bigger challenge.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Mayor Wynn: Further
questions, comments?
Again, very -- obviously
very comprehensive report
and we appreciate the work.
I know that our staff and us
and colleagues and the
community will use it
judiciously.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for the
opportunity.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you.
So margaret, was that the
gist of the briefing?
And we will hear some of
this or have more discussion
this evening, correct?
Yes.
I just was going to remind
folks again, tomorrow
morning heidi will be back
with rachel right here in
council chambers to deliver
the same presentation to the
general public and let them
have time for their q and a.
00 we
will be hosting the
community development -- the
community needs assessment
for the consolidated plan in
front of city council.
Mayor Wynn: Correct.
Thank you, ms. shaw.
So council then that takes
us to our second briefing,
which is a staff briefing
our presentation regarding
our agenda process.
And welcome anthony.
Good afternoon, mayor
wynn and members of city
council.
My name is anthony snites,
city manager's office.
I will be joined today by
greg guernsey, director of
neighborhood plaining and
zoning for this
presentation.
Additionally, mona ruiz, our
agenda coordinator and jenny
gilchrist from our legal
department will be available
at the end of the
presentation to answer any
procedural questions that
you may have.
Underlying all of the review
that you're about to hear is
the fact that the city
council establishes and
controls the procedures for
its meetings.
With that backdrop, the
purpose of this
presentation -- the purpose
of this presentation is to
review the city manager's
office administrative
changes to date and also to
discuss additional possible
management and council
options for consideration.
Lastly, we plan to obtain
council endorsement for some
suggested strategies and
next steps.
Before I cover some of the
administrative processes
we've gone on over the next
several months I wanted to
talk about our current
agenda process.
As you are well aware,
council meetings are
approved by the city council
typically every november of
each year.
Our current agenda cycle
involves a schedule of
approximately four weeks.
Week four involves an
extensive review by the city
manager's office on those
particular items.
I think it's important to
note that prior to week
number 4 the agenda is
vetted through a number of
city departments, including
the finance department, the
legal department, our
purchasing department.
After the preliminary agenda
is distributed, your council
offices have an opportunity
to submit any questions
regarding any of the agenda
items.
On friday, one week rier
proo to the council meeting,
the agenda is posted and
also published on our
website.
The agenda has council
questions received and
submits those responses to
our council offices on or
before the wednesday prior
to the council meeting.
On monday the week of the
scheduled meeting we
typically develop the
changes and corrections and
distribute the late backup
at that time.
One of the things that's
important over the last
three months and prior to
the three months of this
evaluation you had a number
of questions related to our
zoning backup and greg
guernsey is here to provide
you with some of those areas
when that occurs.
I'm going to cover the
agenda process and the
backup you receive.
Just about every week
regarding zoning you have a
zoning staff report.
There's area maps, zoning
ordinance.
Typically you will receive
comments from citizens,
letters from citizens.
That will be part of your
backup.
In addition you will receive
some subsequent information
that may come in.
These may be petitions,
letters of concession by a
developer.
And you will see those that
will come in the following
week.
If we have cases and
everybody is trying to work
together, you may actually
have the zoning ordinance
that might appear on the
following week's agenda.
And if it an item that you
consider on first reading
the week before.
In the majority of cases we
have applicants that will
work with neighborhoods and
negotiate with them, at
least meet with them, but on
cases that are difficult,
you may have letters of
postponement that you might
receive the week of your
meeting or there will be a
discussion of postponement.
So I think you may have one
of those a little later
tonight.
Let me give you some
examples of things that you
might receive.
Restrictive covenants, a lot
of times we want to make
sure that the owners have
signed the appropriate
documents before you take
final ordinance reading and
so those documents where
they've actually been
executed may appear in
yellow paper on your dais
the week of third reading.
Zoning ordinances that i
mentioned before, we're
trying to make sure that all
the conditions are correct
from the first reading.
Correspondence from
neighborhoods, applicant,
postponement requests,
petition requests, board and
commission updates.
Sometimes we have board and
commissions that will
actually reconsider items
and send you additional
information after they've
taken their first action.
And many times you'll have
councilmembers that -- like
yourselves that will go out
and want to take a look at
the project.
Darrell slusher said I'd
like to go take a drive by
on this before I take a
final action.
And that got a lot of chuck
else, but he actually went
out and took a look at those
before he took a final vote
on an item.
Remember, slusher uses
the term drive-by
differently than most.
[ Laughter ]
state law also speaks to
certain requirements that
you really must consider
before you take action.
And one of those is a
petition.
We do not have it under
state law a specific
deadline to accept a
petition.
Sometimes they're actually
brought to the meeting and
then I'm forced to come
before you and say council,
staff has not had the
opportunity to validate
petition or not.
So you have knowledge that
it may be required to do a
three-quarters vote, six out
of seven votes of council,
in order to proceed over the
valid petition that's
brought before you.
And that could either be
from the owner, which is
very simple to validate.
We just have to make sure
the owner has actually
signed, or by those property
owners within 200 feet.
Also we must have the action
by the planning commission.
Sometimes I come before you
and say, council, the
planning commission
postponed this item to a
certain date or has delayed
action on a reconsideration.
And if that is the case,
then you cannot take action
on a case until the planning
commission or the zoning and
platting commission has
actually acted.
Those are two instances
where you're actually
prohibited from taking an
action under state law.
At this time I'll turn it
back over to anthony and he
can continue with the
presentation.
Thank you, greg.
Key in our administrative
review, council, was our
desire to really review all
of the charter requirement
related to the agenda
procedure.
And I'm now going to go
through each one of -- I'm
not going to go through each
one of these, but some
included council having the
ability to adopt rules in
order of business by
ordinance, which is
referenced in code, chapter
2-5.
Some examples of
nonessential council agenda
procedures, and I want to
make it clear that we're
speaking more specifically
to the time to present and
not the relevance of the
topic, but council action to
set a future public hearing
scheduling business that
must be considered at a
certain time.
The specific time for
consideration for an agent
item included citizen
communication, proclamations
and also public hearings.
So with that backdrop and
that background, the city
manager commissioned a city
project team in october of
2008 to do a number of
things.
One to explore what
supporting documentation is
required to be attached at
posting, specifically
interlocal agreements, to
review the current zoning
process and provide reasons
why late backups occur.
I think greg shared a member
number of those reasons
previously.
Lastly to assess key
component of the agenda
process to include our
agenda process deadlines,
our agenda review, council q
and a, agenda posting and
also our changes and
corrections.
One of the key things that
the manager wanted during
this evaluation, he set some
guiding principles for our
review.
He wanted to make sure that
in all of the
recommendations or
initiatives that we brought
forth that we bring
accountability to the
process, working with our
departments, that we ensure
transparency with our
citizens.
That we eliminate
communication deficiency and
we make it clear to our
departments the importance
of getting items to -- on
the council agenda in a
timely manner.
Our project group consisted
of a number of key
stakeholders.
We held over 10 project
group meetings between the
months of october and march.
We convened meetings of the
city manager office staff,
the city attorney's office,
the departmental single
points of contact, the
neighborhood planning and
zoning department, the
city's clerk's office and
also the city council aides.
We convened a number of
these stakeholders on march
2nd to review comments and
feedback from benchmark
cities and also our internal
stakeholders.
We also met with your
council staff on march 4th
to provide some of those
findings.
And we're here today,
council, to provide you with
some of the internal and
external feedback as well as
some future options for
consideration.
During this evaluation we
heard a number of things.
It's suggested that we
benchmark ways to streamline
our current agenda process,
that we consider removal of
the fee waivers, $500 and
below, and clearly that can
be administrative working
with the council.
Consider shortening
lengthening zoning posting
language, condense speed
limit signs to go before
council a quarterly or by
annual basis.
I want to know that several
cities of our benchmark
cities actually do that
currently.
Also, it was referenced in
talking with our city clerk
and the number of citizens,
some of them on occasions
are confused on whether they
should be for or against
certain items, so we want to
expound on that later on.
Then -- [ laughter ]
it was also discussed about
considering more precouncil
meetings.
In our benchmark analysis it
showed a number of cities do
utilize precouncil meetings
as well as several of your
council aides talked about
more information, working
with their offices about
future agenda items before
the final posting.
The participating benchmark
cities that we worked with
included a number of key
texas cities as well as
national benchmark cities
which are listed.
This particular table shows
actually all of those
cities.
And evaluating not only the
texas cities, but the
national cities that we
benchmarked, the average
number of committees or
council committees was
eight.
The number of meetings that
were on average that were
held is 44.
And actually austin's
numbers are the first on
that particular table.
And the number of agenda
items on average was 1,979.
The average number of agenda
items per meetings totaled
about 47.
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change in captioners]
on the consent agenda
usually in, I think, three
of the cities, they address
all of those items when they
actually come up to the
podium.
and
sessions for
administrative and zoning,
and lastly, posting language
is limited to case number
and address of the zoning
area.
does austin
have an a.m. and p.m. again.
[Laughter]
you're right, mayor.
Well, in light of all of the
things that we reviewed,
there were some actions that
the manager did direct us to
immediately address, mayor,
and these are some of those.
We replaced our weekly
departmental director agenda
review to a more condensed
group.
We formalized standard
operating procedures.
Prior to our arrival there
really wasn't one, and we
said that was important to
make sure that we have
uniformity across all of our
departments.
We instituted a late rca
approval, and we call it the
purple slip, which documents
late submittals of agenda
listens and allows our acm
and our departments if there
are problem areas to address
those by providing the
manager with quarterly
reports on those violators.
We also instituted a council
request tracking system, and
I just want to notice, in
the final test phase the
system will be used to track
progress of council progress
of agenda items and will
track staff action related
to agenda items.
The system will be able to
provide status reports to
you on whether or not those
items are closed or whether
or not they're currently
we also have
modified late backup, and
right now if items will
not -- at this point we
share with our departments,
items will not be posted
without supporting
documentation unless there
is a very, very extreme
reason why those need to go
forward.
Other actions, as you know,
we've been working for the
last year and a half, or
actually previous to that,
with the austin go project,
which is our web redesign
initiative.
Back in the summer of 2008
the city manager asked for
me to be the executive
sponsor for both the go
project and also our agenda
management system.
We have an rca scheduled for
march 26, and then we also
want to stress the
importance of how we're
really trying to change how
we do a lot of things.
As you know doing this rfp
process we've instituted a
new google search engine on
our web site.
We have flash video, council
video on demand, so that our
citizens, whether they are
at their homes or in the
libraries throughout our
city, are able to view you
firsthand.
And also we have recently
completed our intranet
redesign phase.
Once the consultants are in
place, which we estimate to
be the end of march,
beginning of april, the
reorganization of all
content and implementation
of content management and
our newly designed look and
feel is anticipated to be
completed by the end of the
year.
We also are in the process
of finalizing -- evaluating
our current agenda
management system.
Right now we're going
through an evaluation of all
our technical solutions and
we're gathering requirements
from our users.
We've interviewed other
cities in trying to get an
idea of whether or not we
have the yell ideal system
for our process.
We've conducted studies and
we viewed product
demonstrations and viewing
an internal prototype to see
if there are any glitches in
the system which we've
identified a couple to take
it to the next level.
We also are in the
process -- -- some possible
procedures, and council, i
want us -- before I get into
possible procedures for your
review, I want to note that
as we move forward over the
next three months and a new
mayor and council is
elected, whatever
conclusions or modifications
are made to the general
process will be a
council-driven process,
because very few exceptions,
council always typically
establishes the procedures
for its meetings.
So these are just some
things along the way,
whether that's through the
benchmark cities that we
interviewed or working with
our internal stakeholders,
some of these things were
noted.
Reducing the number of time
certain items is an option.
I think having few of those
allows the mayor here more
flexibility for running the
meetings, simplify the
posting language.
Our goal would be to review
the current practice of
having long postings.
We currently far exceed the
legal requirements due to
our open meetings act.
Establish deadlines for
items under negotiation and
also to establish procedures
regarding postponement
announcements.
Again, these are not any
recommendation for action
but really some things that
we've been able to look at
for consideration for the
future mayor and the
council.
Consider starting zoning
items where public hearings
have been closed at an
earlier time, to consider
holding non-controversial
public hearings earlier in
the day, and then consider
eliminating council actions
actionsto set upcoming public
hearings.
Also to consider items on
the public agenda to see if
there were any items that
could be eliminated.
One of the things in our
evaluation of other cities,
they looked at those items
and were able to reduce the
number of items and expedite
their meetings better.
Lastly, to consider current
rules considering
complicated amendments and
require all amendments to be
placed in writing before a
vote is actually taken.
So those are some possible
procedures for council
review.
Our hope is that over the
coming months and with the
election of the mayor and
knew council members we'll
be able -- will be to assist
the council as we deliberate
on protocol for the
meetings.
I'll be open to answer any
questions council might have
at this time.
Thank you, mr. snipes.
Questions for anthony,
anybody?
Council member martinez?
well, for you
mayor, it's only eight years
and ten months too late.
[Laughter]
[laughter]
mayor wynn:
[Laughter]
some of these changes.
But in all honesty, you
know, a lot of this is very
appealing.
You know, we struggle with,
you know, the lengthy
meetings that we have, and i
know that the city manager
has committed to doing
everything he can to try to
help us improve that
process.
And so some of this I think
is going to be great, and
enabling us to do that.
I wanted to go back to
slide -- I don't know what
number slide it is.
My pages are numbered but my
slides aren't.
It's the one with all the
other cities, the benchmark
cities slide.
Yes, sir.
Did you guys look at
their items from council --
does every other city do
items from council?
They do.
Not all of them but a good
number of them do do items
from council.
And so did you compare
how many items from council
are being directed towards
staff compared to other
cities?
We didn't go in that
detailed of analysis,
council member, but by all
means if that's something
you would like for us to
examine, we can.
I think it would help, i
guess, drill down a little
bit and determine the
workload that staff is being
asked to accomplish,
comparable to our other
cities of similar size and
then we can compare their
staff sizes to ours as well
to determine if we're
deficient or if we need to,
you know, create some
efficiencies in our staff.
The other question I had is
when you replace -- on the
actions taken to date
departmentally, when you
replaced the weekly
department agenda review
with condensed group
meeting, who is that
condensed group?
The condensed group
consists of all the
executive assistants.
As you know, the executive
assistants for the acm,
assistant city managers, are
responsible for a service
group.
Departments consist of that
service group.
So all the executive
assistants now are in that
meeting, our purchasing
department, austin energy,
our legal staff, and then
our agenda coordinator.
So we're able to go through
that and in most cases the
executive assistants have
worked with all the
departments and actually
work with their acm prior to
that meeting.
So they are informed to
answer any questions that
mig a arise.
on the council
request tracking system, is
this going to be something
that is put on-line for the
general public to track
things that we've adopted
and things that staff is
working on?
We're in the process of
evaluating.
No determination has been
made on that.
The key goal, we're in the
testing phases now.
The key goal is to make sure
that we're responsive to
your inquiries and your
questions, which in some
cases come from citizens,
but we'll work with the
council and move forward.
The manager --
would council
have access to it?
Yes, sir.
If I could supplement the
answer.
Please do.
Just a little bit.
Are you talking about the
automated staff action
tracking that we talked
about in the meeting the
other day?
The intent is to make it
accessible because we want
that, you know, to be
transparent to everyone, the
council, the staff, the
citizens, and if I could
hedge a little bit because
what I'm saying to you right
now I didn't say to him
directly.
That's why he said it like
that.
But we want it to be
transparent to everyone.
Not everyone would be able
to manipulate or change it,
because we don't want
that -- that would just
cause confusion in terms of
getting the work done
associated with those
after-action tasks that we
would have to do, but
certainly we want everyone
to be able to see what's
going on and where things
are at.
Martinez: thanks.
A couple more questions.
On the modified late backup
distribution, is this -- i
assume it applies to items
from council as well, so i
just want us to have a
complete understanding of
what this means in terms of
having enough late backup
for it to be accepted as a
posted item from council.
You know, sometimes we
literally scrap something
on
friday and you guys have to
stay late and law has to
stay late.
I just want to make sure
we're all operating under
the same rules.
We understand.
I'm going to ask minor
miyrna to assist on that to
answer that question.
Afternoon, mayor and
council.
Myrna diaz.
Agenda office.
We do -- or we do not allow
any items to move forward
without the supporting
documentation, in your case,
items from council, all
resolutions ordinances will
be attached to that posting.
Right, so in some cases
we actually have the backup
in the form of a resolution,
but it hasn't been reviewed
by law,.
No, they should be --
they should have already
been reviewed by law.
so it doesn't
get posted until law reviews
it it or it gets posted and
then law reviews it?
How does it work?
No, those items are
entered into our agenda
management system.
We set a work flow which
will push all that
information to our law
department, and the attorney
assigned to that one item
will prepare the
documentation, and we attach
the resolution or the
ordinance to the appropriate
item.
So yes, the law department
will review all the
documentation prior to
posting.
and so will we
maintain the 12 noon policy
on friday for submitting
items for the follow week's
agenda?
I'm sorry.
it's like -- we
get told that the agenda
office is closing on friday
at noon.
Right.
I sent those emails only so
that we can allow our
attorneys the appropriate
amount of time to review
the -- or prepare a
resolution, or in other
cases an ordinance.
So when I say we close the
agenda, closes at noon --
correct.
I totally
respect and understand that
and I think we're doing
everything we can to try to
achieve that, but I -- you
know, I want us to
understand that by law we
still have some flexibility
as it relates to posting an
item on an upcoming council
meeting.
And then the last comment
that I'll make -- thank you,
myrna.
The last comment that I'll
make is that the final
bullet point in this
presentation says that staff
recommends we move forward
with requiring all
amendments to be in writing
before a vote can be taken,
and while I certainly
understand the concern with
complicated amendments,
especially in certain zoning
cases we get very
detail-oriented, I'm
concerned about removing the
flexibility of allowing this
governing body to be able to
make decisions and make
amendments as necessary.
So I hope that we can talk
about that a little more and
maybe get to the issue -- is
the issue complicated zoning
or is it just making an
amendment?
Because if it is, I don't
think -- like this morning
on the solar array, we made
some amendments to the
motion that I think improved
it significantly, and, you
know, I don't think it was
that complicated to where it
would have had to have been
in writing for everyone.
Jenny gilchrist with the
city law department.
What this bullet actually
refers to is you will
actually have a rule that
relates to ordinances that
specifies that any written
amendment to an ordinance
has been presented to
council -- or any amendment
has to be reduced to writing
and then distributed before
it can be adopted.
We don't strictly adhere to
that, if it's something that
is clear and you-all give us
a clear indication of how --
how to make that amendment.
We don't think that we'll
misinterpret council's
intentions, we move forward
without complying with that
written requirement.
But if it is complicated,
you-all have already adopted
a rule that does require it
to be reduced to writing.
So I believe that this
bullet just goes to further
refining that rule.
Martinez: okay.
Thanks, jenny.
Thanks.
actually,
before, I'll just say,
council member, one of my
favorite benchmarks is that
there's a handful of cities
in this country where the
mayor doesn't even attend
the city council meetings.
[Laughter]
that's a
benchmark.
[Laughter]
mark, I think I lost my
friend of thought.
[Laughter]
no, just -- council member
martinez was asking myrna
00 on friday,
and I just think from a
practical standpoint the
intent there is to have some
sort of a cutoff just
because of, you know,
needing the ability to have
enough time to get the work
done; is that not correct,
myrna?
I mean, it's really just
that simple, isn't it?
Okay.
Good.
further
questions of staff,
comments?
Council member morrison.
Morrison: thank you.
I appreciate this work and i
guess I wanted to comment
that coming on as a new
council member, it's a huge
challenge to get in the
rhythm, but now that I think
I'm in the rhythm, i
think -- I sense that -- i
know you are, I can tell you
are too, council member
shade.
It's all very -- it's a big
machine and I appreciate the
effort to, you know, try and
tune that up a little bit.
I think that's always a good
idea.
My first question is, who
has the most purple slips?
[Laughter]
are you handing those out to
council members also or is
that just to staff?
Well, one of the goals,
council members, is to
really to bring about
accountability, as I stated
earlier, the city manager
wanted to make it clear to
departments that that's not
our mode of operation, and
our goal is to be
transparent in whether or
not those individuals are
doing what they need to do
to get things to you in a
timely fashion.
So we'll -- hopefully the
manager will be able to give
you updates, but I think
he'll -- we hopefully won't
have any in and all of our
departments will be working
to ensure no purple slips.
right, and I do
understand -- I mean, i
think some of this
conversation -- part of the
genesis was we have two
issues, really.
We have sometimes backup is
late, not available or
ready.
Other times backup is
incomplete.
And that's a little harder
to judge because only the
person that's posting it
really knows what it is.
And so that's certainly a
challenge, and it's for
staff and for council.
I appreciate that, that we
need to be able to -- in
terms of serving the
citizens and making sure
this whole government
bureaucracy keeps moving, i
think that in terms of late
backup with zoning, it's
really a different situation
because a lot of -- I've
only been on council seven
months or whatever, but I've
been involved in zoning
cases for several years, and
I think we all know that a
lot of the action on a
zoning case happens when
there is a hearing that is
scheduled.
It's just the nature of the
beast.
So it's sort of inherent
that there is going to be
late backup, and I think
that our staff does a great
job when -- when things are
moving so rapidly and all,
trying their best to keep
folks informed and all.
When I look at these
recommendations, and I'm
sure we'll have a lot of
time to discuss them in the
future, I just want to urge
all of us to keep in mind
that this whole agenda
serves the council, it
serves the staff and it
serves the citizens.
So each of these -- every
time we're looking at a
possible change or how
something is working, i
think we really need to keep
those three -- three
different perspectives in
mind.
And so on that note, in
terms of moving forward,
certainly we -- we're going
to have some changes in late
june, and -- with the
elec but is there
something, are you going to
be moving forward to collect
council office comments on
all of these or what's your
plan for the next steps?
For our next steps,
council member, really is
to -- after this
presentation, to continue
working with our project
group and wait on some
direction from council, when
the newly elected mayor and
council convenes, they then
have an opportunity to
decide how they're going to
operate in the coming year.
And our hope is that all of
the data and the information
that we've been able to
research will be able to
provide that information to
them -- or to you, and then
at that point you can make
some determine aigs of nextations of next
steps.
Okay.
Thank you.
Nawng.
further
questions or comments?
I will say this, back in
june there was a reasonably
large attempt to do this and
there were some rule changes
made, and this was slightly
before our electronic
agenda, for instance, but
there was -- it's very
appropriate for us to be
doing this at this time and
to take advantage, frankly,
of a changing dais makeup
here in the next few months,
to really have a chance to
structure -- restructure how
we try to conduct the
public's business.
Thanks, mayor.
Mayor, I just want to
conclude by thanking staff,
particularly rebecca briton
in our office and maria for
the hard work they put into
this project as well as all
of the project team for the
work that they ended up
doing to get the job done.
Mayor, I have a quick
question.
Mayor wynn: yes.
You talked about moz most
of the texas cities conduct
a precouncil work session.
Did you get a chance to
delve -- were those
executive sessions?
No, ma'am, in most cases
they examined briefings.
They had most of their
briefings in their work
sessions and in precouncil
sessions.
In there are some items -- a
nusm of the precouncil
sessions had actions because
it was the full council, not
many, but the vast majority
of the precessions were
designated for briefings.
And usually it was an
average of three to four
briefings at that time.
well, I think this
is excellent work and we'll
use it going forward.
Thank you, council
member.
thank you
all.
So, council, let's see, that
concludes our two afternoon
briefings, and so that takes
00 zoning
matters, and welcome back,
mr. greg guernsey.
Guernsey: thank you.
My name is greg guernsey
with the neighborhood
planning and zoning
department, and I'd like to
00 zoning
ordinances and striskt
covenants, items where the
hearings have been closed.
First item I'd like to offer
for your consideration --
let me first say item no.
35, Case c14-2007-0144, for
the property located at 800
west avenue, shortly after
00 today the applicant
notified me, and I believe
the mayor as well, that this
application has been
withdrawn.
So no action is required in
35 for the property
at 800 west avenue.
36, case
c14-2008-0217 known as the
peaceful hill lane property
at 8524 peaceful hill lane.
This is to zone the property
to warehouse limited office,
conditional overlay or
w/lo-co combining district
zoning with conditions.
This is ready for consent
approval on second and third
readings.
37 is case
c14-2008-0221 known as the
could not conn tract at
11821 through 12124 south
ih-35 northbound to zone the
property to general
commercial services mixed
use conditional overlay or
cs-mu-co, combining district
zoning.
This is ready for consent
approval on second reading
only.
38 I understand
will probably be a
discussion item.
I believe there may be a
council member that would
like to ask a question of a
citizen or two that may be
in the audience.
So that would conclude the
items I could offer for
consent at this time.
That would be just 36 and
37.
thank you,
mr. guernsey.
So, council, our proposed
consent agenda on these
cases, for we have already
closed the public hearing,
would be to -- we'll just
note for the record that
35 has been
withdrawn -- we would also
be approving on second and
third reading item 36 and
approving item 37 on second
reading only.
I'll entertain a motion for
that proposed consent
agenda.
So moved.
Motion made by council
member cole.
Second.
Seconded by council
member shade, to approve the
consent agenda as proposed.
First comments?
Hearing none, all in favor
please say aye.
Aye.
Mayor wynn: opposed?
Motion passes on a vote of
7-0.
thank you,
mayor and council.
00
zoning and neighborhood plan
amendments items.
These are the public
hearings are open.
There's possible action.
40,
which deals with property
along parker, will be
discussion items, I believe.
You probably have several
people that may have signed
in for both of these items.
41 and 42, we have
postponement requests that
have been offered by the
neighborhood and also
offered by the applicant.
However, there's a
disagreement on the
postponement dates, item no.
01
for the property located at
3301 kings lane.
This is a neighborhood plan
amendment and the related
42 is case
c14-2008-0223 for that same
property for a zoning
change.
The applicant has requested
a postponement of both 41
and 42 to your march 26
agenda.
It's my understanding that
the neighborhood has
requested a postponement of
both of these items as well,
but to your march 12 agenda.
So we have a discussion
postponement of those two
items.
And we could, I guess,
invite both sides to come up
and they could state the
reasons for the different
dates of postponement.
So council, without
objection, we would like to
I guess, hear from both
sides regarding the proposed
postponements for combined
case 41 and 42.
We'll hear from the
neighbors first and then
perhaps the applicant or
agent.
Welcome, mary.
Thank you, I'm mary engle
and I'm a co-chair of campac
which is the co-planning
group for 7 neighborhoods
and this is a plan amendment
from the heritage
neighborhood.
We're requesting the
postponement date to be
march 12, and it is
particularly because the
most affected neighbor works
for the legislature and his
schedule is really getting
packed, and I would really
like him not to be
jeopardized by not being
able to come to the hearing.
If it's later in the month.
So we would like this case
to get settled and to move
forward.
thank you,
mrs. engle.
Perhaps somebody from the --
I was looking
for the agent regarding
these items, and I don't see
him in the audience.
My division manager,
rusthoven has gone out into
the lobby just to see if
there's there, but right now
he's not found.
Mayor wynn: okay.
So council, again, we have
two discussion items here on
our public hearings and now
we're considering the
postponement -- or the
length of the postponement
for items 41 and 42.
rusthoven is coming back
empty-handed.
My recommendation is that
we -- we always -- council
always, of course, has the
prerogative to continue
postponements, and so it
seems to me the appropriate
thing to do here would be to
postpone for one week, for
the 12th, and then depending
on just the nature of how
this continues to go, you
know, council could
always -- always reserves
the right to postpone for a
couple more weeks time after
that.
So without objection, the
proposed consent agenda on
these cases where we have
yet to conduct the public
hearing would be to postpone
items 41 and 42 to
march 12, 2009 meeting.
I'll entertain that -- a
motion on that proposed
consent agenda.
Cole: so moved.
motion made
by council member
leffingwell, seconded by
coal, to approve the agenda
as proposed.
Further comments?
Hearing none, all those in
favor please say aye.
Aye.
Mayor wynn: opposed?
Motion to postpone items 41
and 42 passes on a vote of
7-0.
Gue thank you,
mayor and council.
george
adams and he'll briefly
38, which
is case c14-2007-0262.
Afternoon, mayor and
council, I'm george adams,
neighborhood planning and
zoning department.
Item 38 is zoning case
c14-2007-0262, central
austin combined neighborhood
planning area, vmu,
opt-in/opt-out process.
Just a brief overview of the
actions to date.
On january 29, council
approved first reading on
all the subject tracts
within this planning area
except tract 10.
The council adopted the
neighborhood recommendations
and applied three conditions
to the vmu tracts that are
in the heritage neighborhood
portion of the neighborhood
planning area.
These conditions included
that a 15-foot sidewalk is
required for all vmu
projects, that only
residential use is permitted
above the first floor of a
vmu project, and that
on-street head had in
parking is prohibit ---in
parking is printed on
february 26, 2009 council
approved first reading on
tract 10 by a vote of 6-0
with the mayor off the dais.
Per an agreement between the
neighborhood group and the
property owner, the front
portion of tract 10, which
is zoned gr-co-np and is now
referred to as tract 10 a,
was to stay within the vmu
overlay district and it
would receive the
dimensional standards and
the additional uses in
office zoning districts.
There would also be some
conditions applied to tract
10 a.
Those include that on street
head-in parking is permitted
and that 50% of the usable
condition square footage
above the first floor will
be residential.
The rear portion of tract
10, which is now referred to
as tract 10 b, will be
excluded from the vmu
overlay district, but there
will be a condition placed
on tract 10 b that would --
that would read -- excuse
me -- no dumpster or loading
dock shall be permitted
within 70 feet of the south
property line of tract 10 b.
That is my understanding of
where we're at on the
conditions that apply to
this property.
It's also my understanding
that there is a citizen who
wants to speak to the tree
protection on the site.
So with that, I'd be glad to
answer any questions and at
the appropriate time perhaps
read a couple of changes to
the motion sheet to reflect
the conditions that I just
mentioned.
And, mayor, that was -- i
have a question for for
professor greenberg.
very
appropriate.
Mr. greenberg?
Mayor pro tem has questions
for you.
in y
stalwart absence, we had a
little miscommunication.
I did not realize
greenberg wanted to
speak, so one thing I wanted
to find out is if you could
tell us your perspective on
ways we could protect trees
and accommodate the general
consensus motion of the
property owner in the
neighborhood.
We -- I did prepare a presentation, if that's okay. that's -- yes,
ma'am.
Okay. So this is about the trees at 711 west 38th street. The trees
at that address are mature trees that line 38th street, west avenue and
kings street. Most of them are native live oaks and most are within 15
feet of the street. I'll give you a brief tour of the trees on the
street. This is kings street. This is particular -- this is my favorite,
the tree at the corner of kings street and 38th street. It's
particularly nice and provides shade on both streets. There's -- going
along 38th street in front of building a 1 and then in front of building
b 1. Those two trees are -- two buildings have trees that are a little
bit further back, like 25 or 35 feet from the curb, and then as we
continue on 38th street the trees are all within 10 to 12 feet of the
curb, and we continue. There's a lot of nice trees. And along west
avenue the trees are again within 10 or 12 feet of the curb. The
neighborhood felt that incorporating these trees in the vmu development
would preserve the natural and existing feeling of the neighborhood
streets, and it would also offset the effects that a large vmu
development is likely to have on the neighborhood. I spoke to the city
arborist, and he felt that it would be difficult to protect the trees
and still honor the new zoning, so he encouraged us to request
conditions to preserve the trees. The neighborhood has a request that
was given to the property owners. We agreed to this request. Steering
committee agreed, and then when we didn't get a chance to speak -- we
had our general meeting -- member meeting on the 2nd of march, and the
general meeting membership also voted to proceed with this request. The
request was that all the trees within 15 feet of the back of the curb on
38th street, west avenue and kings street would be preserved. If that
meant that the sidewalks needed to be altered, that was okay with us. In
addition, we'd like those trees in the front of building 1 a and 2 a on
38th street to be preserved. This is what we requested initially of the
property owners, and the response that we got was that they would comply
with the code. The problem is that the code allows even protected trees,
the trees that are more than 60 inches in circumference, to be removed,
just to allow reasonable use of the property, and with the vmu the
concern of the neighborhood is that this would be reasonable use of the
property. Mitigation is sometimes required when trees are removed, but
that typically means there's replacement trees, and the replacement
trees are likely to be a whole lot smaller than the existing trees, such
as those that are planted at guadalupe 31. It's not such a good picture,
but you can see a little bit closer up what those replacement trees
typically look like. So the neighborhood is just asking for help to
preserve the street trees on 38th street, west avenue and kings street.
That's the end of my presentation. I'd like to thank you for giving me
the time today, and I'm happy to answer any questions. thank you, ms.
greenberg. Very appropriate presentation. Questions for ms. greenberg?
I'll just say oftentimes as we have the inevitable sort of struggle or
sort of exercise and force trade-offs when it comes to tree protection
while at the same time trying to encourage and even craft the urban
development that so many of us would like, is just -- is oftentimes the
trees are, you know, set in the interior of a block, and that causes the
big -- the big rub. An example that I point to frequently is the
horrific mistake that was forced upon stratus properties across the
street here when there was a single live oak, well in the interior of
this block 21. Block 21, if you remember, was about as ugly a block as
existed in all of downtown, and I'd like to point out to the taxpayers
that we owned it for 30 years and we let it look as bad as it did. There
was a single tree, and the opportunity was, of course, to sell that
block for $16 million in unbudgeted one-time capital gains that now
we're putting to good use, and more importantly, to deliver $300 million
of tax base. 40% Of that increment now perpetually funds our affordable
housing trust fund here in austin. No matter how you look at it, a
remarkable success across the street, from an environmental standpoint
and financial standpoint, et cetera. There was a single tree. Some
people liked to use that single tree as a way to stop development and to
continue to have a horrific surface parking lot across the street. So as
a compromise stratus was forced to pay $80,000 and bring in the most
internationally acclaimed tree relocation firm in the company, loaded it
-- spent about a month and a half, loaded it up on a 42 wheeler, not an
18-wheeler, a 42 wheeler. We shut down cesar chavez for half a day in
order to move this tree at about 2 miles an hour. We put it across the
street here, just as we were about to open this beautiful cesar chavez
promenade that so many citizens sent us complimentary emails about. Go
over there today. The horrific eyesore of what otherwise is a
spectacular urban development is that dead tree. Stratus was forced to
spend $80,000, that now we, our parks department, is going to have to
spend thousands and thousands of dollars to go fix a stupid mistake and
right in the middle of the most, I think, attractive, urban pedestrian
setting in this state, we have a gigantic dead tree on a 45-degree slope
that now we have to remove, have to, you know, keep the slope from
failing because of that. Those $80,000, had they been directed to tree
folks, tree folks could have planted 4,000 trees. 4,000 Trees. And
better yet, tree folks would have planted them precisely where they
should be, along the right-of-way, just like the majority of these trees
are, because trees there shade 100% of the concrete sidewalk and at
times 50% of the asphalt of the streets that adjoin. Significant benefit
in our attempt to combat the heat island phenomenon that most downtown
have. So what I like very much greenberg's presentation here is the
location of these trees are important. You know, I hate the cases,
frankly, when there's a gorgeous specimen live oak that is in the
interior of -- and then we have this heart wrenching struggle, and my
opinion is the easiest answer, as painful as it might seem, is to figure
out that value, donate that money to something like tree folks and have
thousands of trees planted precisely where we need them in rights of
way. So I'm just suggesting that here's an opportunity where we have
mature trees, gorgeous trees that you know, had they been planted
tomorrow they might be a little bit closer to the curb, they might shade
more of the asphalt of the streets. They weren't, they're not, but I
think -- I sure would support some concept of trying to protect these
trees because they're so closely located to where we would otherwise
plant them, which is along the property line, along the right-of-way,
shading both concrete, sidewalks and asphalt streets. So I sure like the
greenberg, and hope that we can figure out an appropriate way how to
deliver both the urbane development that we want there, vertical mixed
use development, while at the same time allowing those trees to do the
glorious work that they should be doing for us, which not only is
helping us aesthetically, but helping us very much on the environmental
front, particularly when it comes to combatting heat island.
There are some interior trees on that property, and we didn't ask for
those to be preserved. It's just the street trees that the neighborhood
thinks is possibly to be preserved.
Mayor wynn: all right. So thank you. I have a question real quick. So
what is the -- is there a recommended sidewalk configuration from the
applicant and the neighborhood? Because -- under our new sidewalk
ordinances, the trees are ideally placed along the curb line to protect
pedestrians, in addition to providing shade. So if they're not going to
be on the curbside, which, an appropriate example such as where I live,
the triangle, but help us, guide us, on what amendments we're asking so
we can still get the wide sidewalks that provide pedestrian access and
protection.
Well, the trees are generally 10 to 12 feet from the curb, and I
think the neighborhood would be just fine with having the sidewalk on
the other side -- on the street side and the trees on the -- you know,
slightly interior to the property. But it most likely means that the
building is not going to be 15 feet from the curb. Otherwise too much of
the root zone would be covered. I think an arborist would be in a better
position to recommend an exact configuration.
Mr. whale en?
Michael whilen on behalf of the applicant. We had tarkd initially --
frankly the landowner is the one that brought up the trees in our
initial discussion, and we had a proposal at one time to provide that
flexibility. We had said as a possibility, sidewalks on west and king
may be a minimum of 8 feet wide with a 4-foot wide tree/vegetation zone
as a way to offer that discretion at site plan to -- to the site plan
reviewers as a possibility, and we could do the same thing, I guess, on
38th street. So we had that in here, and then -- but I mean, in all due
respect to the steering committee president, there was also an agreement
ultimately that involved a lot of give and take where we ultimately came
back to a development control and deal with tree preservation and
respecting the trees at site plan. Our hope, of course, would be that
something like 8-foot or 12-foot wide sidewalk with a vegetative zone
that prefers the trees is one that would -- would work for the neighbors
and the site plan reviewers. We're also welcome to doing something like
this that we had offered initially as a possibility to recognize the
value of the trees on the street scape. So that's always been the issue.
There are -- that has always been something that we had offered and
discussed. The issue that the mayor brought up was one that we were not
willing to manage because it did not -- it wasn't -- it was just a few
trees that were 35 feet in and would have created a 35-foot setback.
That is what was unacceptable to the landowner and I'm glad that that's
now dropped off and we are talking about something which really should
be preserved, and that is the trees within the 15-foot buffer. There
isn't -- the flexibility is left to the site plan reviewer ultimately.
There is a way here where we could do something. But again, I feel
compelled to have a opportunity to make sure the neighbors are we've
worked hard with the president, ann, and jolene, who are on the steering
committee here, in that regard.
Mayor wynn: additional?
Hi, jolene cobas, a member of the steering committee. We never --
there was never an offer on the table to preserve the trees, and it was
just the language that the tree ordinance would apply. I guess what
we're trying to find out is what are the sidewalk standards going to be?
What's the recommendation on that? Is there a recommendation?
Do some of those trees have recommendation?
Is there a staff relies --
yeah, that's we're arguing about is the trees maybe -- well, no,
because that's 12 feet. What if they're 12 feet and 1 inch in and
they're not protected. adams, do you want to help us out sneer.
Yes, sir. What I wanted to speak to is, you know, the design
standards lay out the sidewalk standards that would apply to the various
roadway types. Within the design standards I think there's abundant
flexibility to deal with the tree issue. There's the alternative
equivalent compliance process, which is used frequently in these kinds
of cases, and there's also another section that titled minor
modifications that allows flexibility specifically to protect trees. So
in terms of flexibility at the site plan level, i think we have that.
Now, whether we want to apply some specific standards or limitations as
part of the ordinance, that's, you know, obviously your decision. But I
think the flexibility is in the design standards ordinance. well, I
think then what we could do is move -- sounds like the motion would be
to approve on third reading, or is it second and third reading? Approve
on second and third reading -- the first reading motion, but to include
the tree protection standards set out by the campac neighborhood
planning group. I'll second that motion. we have a -- first we have a
motion and a second -- motion by mayor pro tem, seconded by council
member cole, to approve on second and third reading our first-reading
motion with the additional language regarding tree protection from our
steering committee. which set out the protection of the street trees
along 38th -- along the property perimeter of tract 10, is that correct,
within 15 feet in back of the curb. And within 35 feet back of the curb
in front of buildings 1 a and 2 a on 38th street.
That's the 35-foot setback, though, that we hadn't bargained for. We
had been agreeable to 12 feet. I can see where 15 feet since that's the
sidewalk, but that's a -- the reason why they want 35-foot setback is
that it is a significant set back. You can't -- you wouldn't be able to
do any building in that 35-foot setback according to the way they've
written it there. That's why -- we have no problem with the first two
sentences of the request. It's that last sentence that we have objected
to was always part of this agreement. We made good-faith trade-offs
throughout this process, and it's hard to ask landowners to make good
faith trade-offs through a process and then at the last minute, as we've
experienced over and over again, have additional requirements thrust
upon either neighbors or landowners. This was not an issue that was not
debated. We debated this issue. which ones are buildings 1 a and 2 a on
38th street? That might help us know, like if it's a small or large
percentage of the frontage.
It would be -- the two -- the 1 a and 2 a are -- these are all
one-story buildings. It needs to be redeveloped. I mean, you've seen
this. It's a large site across from the hart hospital. I had to get an
mri on my shoulder there last year, and this is about as poster child
for why we need vertical mixed use --
this is very much a vmu site and that's why saving the majority of
the trees -- more than the majority, 80% of them, is very important,
especially the street trees, but this issue of the 35-foot setback was
one that was sent to me by email from the neighborhood back in february.
and if we could see -- that might help. What I don't think we have a
sense of is it a small percentage of the frontage or two-thirds of the
frontage.
No, so that very large tree is within 15 feet. You can see. is there
an airle -- is there an aerial of the site? Okay. So -- so which --
[inaudible] so the northwest corner, that's building 1 a and 2 a both?
[Inaudible] the next building to the left is building 2 a. And so the
two biggest trees -- so the northwest corner.
The two biggest trees that you see are set further back. My guess is
that those were trees that were existing when that property was
developed in the '70s. And that's why they're much bigger than the
others. The corner tree in particular seems like it would be a shame to
take down since it provides shade both on 38th street and king street. I
think it is 25 feet. yeah, I'll stick with my original motion including
the 35-foot setback on 1122 --
mayor and council, at the risk of unleashing chaos, i just wanted to
provide a little additional information. guernsey has informed me that
he believes we would have to capture the tree conditions through a
restrictive covenant, private restrictive covenant. It could be public,
and i whalen is not amenable to that approach. There is also another
issue with the condition that i mentioned on tract 10 b. I just wanted
to put that out there. I can give you the details when we get to the --
to the appropriate time. and I think laura and i, who are -- have to
bear a heavy responsibility for unleaching the larger mischief on this
-- the overlay, my sense of it is that we -- we did leave it open for
the creation of conditions, and maybe that's something we can adopt on
second reading. How about I amend my motion to say only on second
reading with a staff recommendation about how we can achieve the intent
of the motion to include the 35-foot setback for the 1 a and 2 a
building site in the 15-foot tree -- protected trees within 15 feet of
the curb line for the rest of the perimeter. and that's acceptable to
me, and I'd also like staff, before we come back to third reading, to
look at the language dealing with the minor modification and see if we
can bring the parties close together on the tree. You talked about the
fact that the land development code had provisions for, i think, street
setback, having to do with minor modifications, and I'm hoping that
there's some language in there that we can get the parties a little
closer together on this.
Okay. And if I may, if I could just speak to the condition on tract
10 b that i mentioned a minute ago. In my introductory remarks i said is
that that rear portion of tract 10, which is now tract 10 b, would be
excluded from the overlay district but there would be a condition
applied to it to limit location of dumpsters. I've been -- there's been
a back-and-forth discussion with legal staff and I've since heard from
them that if we are taking that property out of the overlay district, or
excluding it from the overlay district, we're unable to apply that
condition to it. I believe the parties have reached an agreement on how
to get to that condition in the future, but that wouldn't be part of
this action. we have an amended motion for second reading only with
further suggestions and instructions to staff regarding the tree
protection piece before coming back for third reading. Council member
leffingwell? the motion sheet shows this as opted in, 10 b as opted in.
That's incorrect. That's what you're saying?
That's correct, yes. and my recollection is that there was also a
limitation on the number of units on tract 10 b.
There may have been at one point in the discussion, but I believe the
term sheet that I saw last week, that condition had been dropped out. so
it's a straight -- the straight zoning with the only co being the
location of dumpsters?
Well, actually what I -- what I have -- what legal staff has told me
is that we're unable to apply that condition since in effect that rear
portion is -- is no longer part of the zoning case. What the parties
have agreed to do, I believe, and correct me if I misspeak, is whalen is
going to file a zoning case on that tract 10 b to impose the condition
that it would be a separate zoning case that would come forward in the
future. so the motion before us is only tract 10 a?
That's correct. again, we have a motion and a second for second
reading only for tract 10 a. Did I state that correctly, mr. adams?
Well, I'm -- the motion would apply to the entire planning area, but
tract 10 b would not -- the condition would not apply to tract 10 b. and
again, this is second reading only.
Right. further comments? Hearing none, all in favor please say aye.
Aye.
Mayor wynn: aye. Opposed? Motion passes on second reading only with a
vote of 7-0.
Thank you. thank you, george. guernsey, that leaves us then with our
discussion items 39 and 40, correct? yes, mayor, we can't do those in
two minutes, I'm sorry.
Even as fast as you can talk we can't do that. So then council,
without 25 at this time we'll recess this meeting of the austin city
council. Stay tuned for live music and proclamations. Our musicians
today are marimba. And we'll have a few proclamations and reconvene the
council meeting approximately 6:00 p.m. We are now in recess. Thank you.
Welcome back to or live music rig gig at the austin city council
meeting. Rattletree marimba. Since 2006 rattletree has been making their
music mark, with zimbabwe and marimba. I've been to zimbabwe. High
energy music is featured monthly at the last saturday event at copa.
They use hand crafted instruments and has been featured in numerous
festivals including south south by southwest, band leader joe has
apparented -- has partnered with many non-profits around the region to
increase awareness of various causes including the simms foundation,
save austin music foundation and the epilepsy foundation. Please join me
in welcoming rattletree marimba.
[Applause]
[music playing] shade. that was fabulous. Introduce your band to us,.
So my right is karen green.
Mayor wynn: hello, karen.
[Applause]
behind me on the giant bass marimba we have darren dyke.
[Applause] and on the paired down marimba in the corner the is wayne
salsman.
[Applause] first before we hear about how we can hear you more
frequently or where else you gig around town, tell us about the
instruments, handcrafted, obviously.
I built all the instruments myself. They're based on the sim bob
wayan marimba orchestra and zimbabwean traditional instrument comes from
the embira so we take them off that and put them on the marimba.
So apparently you have a monthly gig at copy copa.
Which is the last saturday of each month.
Last saturday of each month, we have a different local band playing
with us. We also feature a different local nonprofit every month. It's a
great time. It's a dance party.
And then if somebody wanted to try to partner with you as you do
downtown, do you have a web site on how can we learn more about the music.
We do, it's rattletree.com.
Mayor wynn: Rattletree.com. com and hit the contact button and that's
the way.
Any cd in production or any way we can listen to some of the music
on-line or how would that work?
Yes, we have the music on-line on our web site. We're also working at
our most recent full length album here locally, so that should be out in
the june, is the projected date.
Mayor wynn: fabulous. Before you get away the official proclamation
here today folks reads, the local music community makes many
contributions towards the development of austin's social, economic and
cultural diversity and whereas the dedicated efforts of artists further
our status as the live music capital of the world, therefore i, will
wynn, mayor of austin, hereby proclaim today, march 5, 2009, rattletree
marimba day in austin, and join with me in congratulating this fine talent.
[Applause] and so while joe and some power cranes try to break down the
band on that side of the room we'll use this podium to do our weekly
proclamations but before I do, a little point of privilege, folks,
please join me in congratulating gail chavez on her birthday today.
[Applause] gail is the very patient person who each week -- in the
course of a month, really, gathers all these different requests to do
all these proclamations and figures out how to somehow choose the
winners and sort through it and craft our sort of -- along with rows
rias, craft this live music and proclamations. Thank you, gail. Because
what we do each month -- each week is we try to use this opportunity --
with our proclamations to oftentimes say congratulations, to raise
awareness about a very important event. Oftentimes we say good-bye to
retiring city employees. So we take it seriously. We enjoy doing it and
gail makes it very enjoyable. So our first one -- I'm joined by tarie
belden, because our first proclamation is regarding registered dietician
day so I'll read the proclamation and tairi will tell us about why we
are trying to promote the work of dietitians. You may know in 2004 i
formed a mayor fitness council to try to continue to raise awareness
primarily about the cost of health care and how much of that can be
avoided by doing some simple things. A little bit of physical activity
during the course of your day and week, being very much aware of your
nutrition, avoiding risky behaviors, like tobacco use, primarily and
then thinking about things like your body mass, weight index and those
types of things. So avoid wasted health care spending so we can spend
health care dollars judiciously on the right stuff. So we try to partner
with dietitians, with psychologists who deal with behavioral change,
with senior advocates, with children advocates, public sector, private
sector, to try to have as much of an outreach as possible. So very
pleased to read this proclamation and have tairi follow it up with
additional words. Our registered dietician day proclamation reads,
registered dietitians are the food and nutrition experts who can
translates the signs from nutrition into healthy living. Registered
dietitians have degrees in diet ix, I guess, it is, public health or
related field from well respected, accredited colleges and universities,
have completed an internship and passed an examination and whereas
registered dietitians work throughout the community in hospitals,
schools, clinics, nursing homes, fitness centers, the food industry,
universities, research and private practice, promoting science-based
nutrition in the hope of helping our citizens chief optimal health.
Therefore I will wynn, mayor of the city of austin, texas, do hereby
proclaim march 11, 2009, next wednesday, as registered dietician day
here in austin, and please join me tarie belden. Tarie.
[Applause]
I i want to thank mayor wynn and the city council for recognizing the
sometimes unrecognized nutrition professionals. He pretty much said
everything I want to say but I want to say march is national nutrition
month and this year's theme is eat right. And basically it wants to help
people make informed food choices as well as getting good behaviors of
nutrition and physical activity. A registered dietician does get either
a bachelor's, a master in science or accredited doctorate degree. They
go through intense tif internship program and pass a national exam that
needs to be accredited through the american dietetic association. We are
licensed in the state of texas and maintain yearly education hours. We
really want to help to get texans to be healthier, so anyone wanting to
see a dietician can help prevent chronic diseases such as diabetes,
heart disease, high bangladesh. Blood pressure. So if you want to find a
local dietician in your area we want you to check out the dietic
association and that would be eatright.org. Thank you ve much.
[Applause] good deal fanned so my next proclamation is a point of
personal privilege as well. I'm very proud of casis elementary. I happen
to be a proud father a casis elementary fifth grader, having had my
oldest daughter go through all of her five years there as well. This
next proclamation is technically a certificate of appreciation to casis
elementary school for a really impressive food drive that they have had
recently john's community is our benefactor of that and perhaps bill
will say a few words about how it is all put to good use. So I'll read
the certificate of appreciation. Start here with fourth grade teacher
larry sullivan and star pupil jake, who also might say a few words about
the program. So the official city of austin certificate of for their
exemplary efforts on john community center pantry casis elementary
school is deserving of public acclaim and recognition. For the past 18
years casis students have collected food john community center pantry
during the thanksgiving and christmas holiday seasons. In 2008 alone
they collected more than 5,000 pounds of john residents. This
certificate is presented in recognition of their long-time generosity
and caring spirit this 5th day of march, year 2009, signed by me, mayor
wynn, but acknowledgedly the entire austin city council, a certificate
of appreciation for casis elementary school. Jake, congratulations.
[Applause]
as the late paul harvey said -- the rest of the story -- the casis
elementary school in the last 18 years has given over -- helped collect
over 100,000 pounds worth of food john's community center. This is a
unique group. We have schools. We have private companies like at&t, and
we have churches that work with the john's community center, and I'm
happy to say that the casis elementary school is one of the largest
contributors to this.
Mayor wynn: larry?
[Applause]
first off I'd like to thank mayor will wynn as john's community
center and also jake, he's got a plus for the rest of the year for
coming out to support me and support our school. It's great, this year
we focused on not necessarily -- in the past we've kind of made a class
competition, see how many cans each can bring in. This year we focused
on finding a reason to give and not giving just -- a pizza party at the
of the year but basically finding your reasons to give, and donate,
whether it be to help others, help yourself, to make yourself feel
better and reach out to people who are in need. So that was our main
driving force and so people brought in their cans from all over, every
area from pre-k to fifth grade in our school and baskets were full of
cans and we had the john's community center come pick them up and there
was just a two-week adventure that was amazing and these kids brought
these cans in and it was really amazing to see all that generosity. We
had a giving tree about why you give and so why everyone needs to find
their reason to give. So it's really important tweants about winning
this party. It wasn't about the accomplishment of just your class
winning but it was about giving and finding your own reason to help
others in need throughout the year. It turned out very well. I thank our
vice principal to co out and supporting us.
[Applause]
[applause]
mayor wynn: jake?
I really want to thank mayor will wynn. He really leads austin
greatly, and that's all i have to say.
Mayor wynn: all right. Thank you, jake.
Thank you.
Mayor wynn: thank you.
[Applause] psa so for my last sort of proclamation before I turn the
podium over to council member shade, these are certificates of
congratulations for our clean air psa winners. Lee and christina have
joined us because they won our contest. Dina helps us by running the
clean air force here in the austin area. You probably know that as
austin has continued to grow, one of the challenges that growing cities
face is urban air quality. We are fortunate in that we are a very about
city that still technically hasn't violated the clean air act. That is,
we are what is called -- we are in attainment. Virtually every city our
side and many cities smaller have already violated the clean air act,
they're in non-attainment because of -- my home town of beaumont was the
very first city in 1990 to violate the clean air act. So what we do here
in austin and central texas is band together elected officials, the
different governments in central texas, the private sector, which helps
dina with her clean air force board and we try to raise awareness. We
try to let folks know how they can help, everything from athe kind of
lawn mower you might use, what time of day you fill up your car with
gasoline, how you can help us with commuting, having more effective mass
transit and to see the young people step up and help us deliver that
message is very, very rewarding. Of course it's their city, their planet
that they are inheriting from us fundamentally, and so it's with great
honor that I get to present these two certificates of congratulations.
My guess is they're probably the same awarding, so i think I'll read one
and we'll give christina -- i t'y second place. So christina got a
second place award so she'll get the certificate of congratulations as
well as it looks like deanna has an I pot we'll give the rest of the
students and lee lee is our grand winner. So I'll present the
proclamations and we'll present these. So the certificate of
congratulations from the we are pleased to congratulate kristina powell
and lee mendez. Christina goes to stoney point high school and lee is at
austin high school, for taking in this case -- christina is taking
second place in the clean air of central texas's high school of public
service contest. Christina created a thoughtful research on the rlg
texas. Her worked encouraged people to take active procedures in air
quality. We are pleased she is taking an educated role in helping
herself and her community on air quality issues. This is presented this
5th day of march, 2009, signed by me mayor will wynn, but acknowledged
by entire city council. Congratulations to kristina powell.
[Applause] of course after I said all that i realize the certificates
are slightly different and so i want to read lee's as well because it
describes his fine work. And so lee's certificate of we're pleased to
congratulate lee mendez of austin high school for taking first place in
the clean air of central texas high school public service announcement
contest. Lee created a well-researched and thoughtful psa, again on the
topic of air quality here in central texas. His work challenged citizens
to take proactive measures to improve our area air quality and we're
pleased he's taken an active role in educating himself and our entire
community on how important air quality is here in austin and central
texas. This certificate is presented in recognition the year march,
2009, signed by me and acknowledged by the entire city council, a
certificate of lee mendez.
[Applause]
hi there, I'm deanna aten hoff, and I want to say thank you for mayor
wynn, who is one of our clean air force board members for this
opportunity to recognize these students' work. I know they worked very
hard. Both of their psa's and really appreciate it. This contest was
open to high schools in the five-county region, and we will be --
unfortunately we don't have them to show you right now, but we will be
showing both of them at our april 1 ozone sick kickoff right here in the
atrium with mayor wynn on april 1 at 10:30. I want to recognize the
parents and principals and teachers that are here supporting these
students, and lee mendez's parents are here, linda and david mendez, so
thank you so.
[Applause] and also lee's teacher, gill garcia, up here, taking photos,
and for second place winner, kristina powell, i want to recognize her
mother, anna powell. Also a special guest, former city council member
margaret hoffman is here who happens to be christina's grandmother. So I
want to say thank you so much for coming.
[Applause]
[applause] and also christina's principle, bret carmier is back there.
So thank you so much.
[Applause] very well done. Thank you. so for our final proclamation I'll
turn the podium over to council member randi shade. Council member?
Shade: nice to meet you.
Same here.
Thank you. How about here. Well, I am very, very honored today to get
to -- on behalf of the city present a proclamation recognizing the
national council of jewish women's 25th anniversary for being here in
austin. I guess it's an organization that's over a hundred years old
nationally, but it has strong -- it matches the austin culture very
much. It's all about women showing courage and activism, grassroots
support for very important activities and activism and social justice in
all things that we take very seriously here in austin. I am please thad
one of the members here is -- pleased that one of the members here is
even a cousin of mine and my mother is a member of the organization in
dallas. So again, I'm just really honored that I get to present this
proclamation. Be it known, whereas, the national council of jewish women
is a national organization that has been at the forefront of social
change for more than a century, championing the needs of women, children
and families, and whereas the austin section of ncjw has more than 150
volunteers and advocates who have been serving austin for 25 years,
turning progressive ideals into action and whereas the austin section
brought the comben race for the cure to our city, brought happy home
instruction program for reschool youth to aisd and found the coalition
against dismix violence, they do service advocacy and education. Now,
therefore, I will wynn mayor will wynn, of the city of austin declare
march 9, 2009 as the jush women's women'sjewish women's austin section
and thank you for all you do.
Thank you.
[Applause]
thank you very much to mayor wynn, to councilwoman randi shade for
those kind, kind words and I'd like to just say a few words about
national council of jewish women. It's the oldest jewish women's
organization in the united states founded in 1893. Although austin's
section is only 25 years old, we have done quite a number of things, we
believe for the city of austin and look forward to many, many more. I
wanted to mention one of the programs that you highlighted, which is
called hippy, and hippy stands for the -- let's just find it, the home
instruction pro for youth. Preschool youth, and this came out of
headstart and many other programs, and actually we got involved in this
back in the '50s and '60s when israel was bringing many immigrant
families into their country and they weren't familiar with the culture
and they found through their research here in the united states that the
best teachers are parents, and the best teachers are care takers who are
with the children all day long, and that headstart and preschool
training i one of the most important things we can do for our
youngsters. So based on that ideal and idea and theory, and ncjw did a
lot of work to do preschool instruction, and we shipped that whole
program to israel for alle immigrant children. And guess what? Hillary
clinton we over to israel and said, why is this over a news reel? Why
don't they have it here, and she brought it to arkansas. And we brought
it to austin. And over the years after some tending, it became part of
aisd's community in schools program. So one of the things that ncjw does
is that we find a need in the community, we address the need and we turn
on it over to existing or new organizations to carry it forward. We're
not married to a particular project forever. So I've mentioned -- you
have mentioned very kindly some of our local projects, and so now at
this point I'd like to take a moment to recognize some of the current
leaders who were with the ncjw austin section today. Ellen sable, andrea
abel, lisa lodski, betty foreman, susie, leslie arsham bow, and I'm
augusta gelfand. Thank you so much for your attention to us. We look
forward to our day on the 29th. Thank you again.
Thank you.
[Applause]
thank you all for everything you do. Diepenbrock teri there being a
quorum present at this time I'll call back to order this meeting of the
austin city council. It's approximately 6:15:00 p.m. We've been in
recess now for about 45 minutes. I appreciate everybody's patience.
Council, before we get started on our remaining zoning case, we do,
legal has confirmed a joint postponement request of the public hearing
item no. 48. I believe our requested postponement of this appeal is to
april 23, 2009. So I will entertain that motion to postpone.
Motion made by mayor pro tem, seconded by leaf well, leffingwell, the
site plan petition to thursday, april 23, 2009. All in favor of the
postponement please say aye.
Aye.
Mayor wynn: aye.
Mayor wynn: opposed? Motion passes on a vote of 4-0 with council
members coal, morrison and shade off the dais. guernsey, that takes us
back to our parker lane zoning cases, I believe.
Yes. Thank you very much, mayor and council. My name is greg guernsey
with the neighborhood planning and zoning department. I'd like to offer
our next two cases and bring both of up at the same time. 01 for the
property at 1404, 1408, 1504 and 1506 parker. This is to consider an
amendment to the east riverside ol terve combined neighborhood planning
area, a portion of the austin tomorrow comprehensive plan to change the
land use designation from single-family to multifamily, and the zoning
case-related to this is case 40 on your agenda for that same property,
to consider a zoning change request from family residence, neighborhood
plan or sf-3-np combining district zoning to multifamily residence,
medium density neighborhood plan, s mf-3-np. The approximate is 180,700
square feet and composed of four lots developed with single-family
homes. The applicant is considering a proposal to construct
approximately 18 condominium units on the property. The planning
commission's recommendation was to deny the applicant's request for a
land use designation of multifamily, and to recommend approval of staff
recommendation to a higher density single-family with the neighborhood
plan amendment. This was approved on a vote of 6-2. The related zoning
case, the planning commission did not recommend the applicant's request
to mf-3-np combining district zoning. They recommended that the staff
recommendation of sf-6-co-np combining district zoning with a
restriction of two stories or 35 feet in height and a 25-foot setback on
the rear with vegetation being applied. The applicant did have meetings
with the contact team and the east riverside/oltorf combined
neighborhood planning contact team voted not to support the zoning
change request or the neighborhood plan amendment, and they were joined
by the south river city citizens neighborhood association in the
opposition to both the zoning change and the change to the future land
use map. There is a petition that's been filed in opposition to this
rezoning request, and it is in your backup, and was opposed to the
zoning -- zoning the property to any other classification than sf-3,
sf-3 being only the district that would allow single-family and duplex
or two family residential, basically no more than two units on the
property, on a lot. The reason for this was there was concern about
building height, that there is an increase in population density,
increase in impervious cover, and i think there are some exhibits in the
backup with concerns about drainage, and that there are no multifamily
properties that are needed in the area. Neighborhood plan cited all
concern about having rental property and trying to get more ownership
types of property. The petition was mostly signed by those property
owners that reside in single-family homes on the back side or the west
side of the property along elmhurst. The property along the north is
developed with townhouse condominium type of development as well as to
the south, there's multifamily zoning to the north, and to the south of
the property. To the east across the street there is mf-3 properties for
apartments, and along the rear or the west side of the property is
single-family. The traffic impact analysis was not required for this
case because the proposed zoning would not generate more than 2,000
trips per day. At this time I think I'll pause and let ryan diepenbrock
come up and make his presentation. I know that there are several members
of the neighborhood that are here also to speak to this item. If you
have any questions for me at this time, I'll be happy to answer them or
you can ask them later. thank you, mr. guernsey. Questions for staff,
council? If not, then we will conduct our public hearing, and let's see.
Our agent, ryan diepenbrock, hope I pronounced that correctly, ryan,
will -- we'll set the clock for 5 minutes, but however if the folks
wanted to donate time to you -- is danny horseman here? Hello, danny. I
don't know if I pronounced that correct. How about jerry diepenbrock,
excuse me. Jerry, welcome. So ryan, that buys you six more minutes if
you need it, so we'll set the clock for 11 minutes and let you make your
presentation and then as you may know, we then hear from folks who want
to support the zoning case and then we hear from everybody who wants to
oppose it and then you have a three-minute rebuttal at the end.
Thank you, mayor and council members. My name is ryan diepenbrock and
I appreciate the opportunity to be in front of you again. This piece of
property that my partners and I purchased three years ago has been
discussed, and some of you may know it. I tried to highlight this map
just basically to clarify the multifamily or commercial zoning in yellow
and then the single-family neighborhood mostly interior to these larger
streets in white, obviously. One -- one thing I think everybody agrees
upon is that parker lane is a street, especially in this -- this
proximity to riverside and the riverside corridor, that needs some
improvement and has started to see a little bit of that in the past
years, and i think that our property is extremely important, probably
the only important property, to continue that. We have had one
redevelopment along the street and a little bit of improvement to some
of the apartment complexes. In our vision and desires are very well
aligned with the neighborhood plan and with many things that greg
guernsey mentioned that everybody would like to see. We are just trying
to do it in a way that works for all parties and works for a development
to make it as good as it can be. That -- we've also made numerous
modifications over the past year or two, and I'll quickly highlight
those. Those have all been directly in response to a question or
concerns from property owners, owner occupiers around this property, and
that's why we do have quite a bit of support. You should have received a
handful of letters from owner occupiers that are right next door to us,
as we have been able to spend quite a bit of time with some of the
owners in the area, making the proposal and the hopeful project that
follows as good as it can be and taking into account everybody's
concerns. And so that's primarily what I'm going to show you guys here
today. Just to clarify a little bit guernsey mentioned to you, it looks
like some -- I guess it's okay on the screen there in front of me, so
it's cut off, but what we looked at is what's the appropriate density
for this area when you stand on our subject property, you will see all
multifamily around you. Some apartments and some condominiums. So we
looked at it from a number of units, and you see our request. We are
agreeing to a 16-unit limitation, and also just kind of size and scope,
and we quantified that as bedrooms, and you see those numbers there. So
from size and mass standpoint, we are -- we're probably less than all
the surrounding property on parker lane. Here's our third or fourth
revision of a potential site plan. This is definitely something that is
feasible, and it takes into account a handful of things I'll mention
here. But mostly it provides an attractive curb appeal type of layout
with some density to it, trying to balance those two ideas. So a few of
the points that we've talked to surrounding property owners about, a
flooding issue or water detention issue is a major one, which is one of
the strengths of a multifamily development, and those requirements that
follow. The trees and vegetation, especially in the rear of the property
where it does abut single-family owners, was also from the beginning
something very important, and I think we've got a handful of good and
easy ways to take care of both of those two items. One example of this
is a project my group is doing right now. It's about 60, 70% complete,
right near zilker park, and we did a concrete stub wall to help some of
those water flooding and control issues, and this -- this particular
case right here was not a requirement at all in terms of a site plan or
zoning issue. That was just something we -- we did because we were
trying to control things the best we could on the site. There's a
detention pond on another portion of the site that controls -- or that
handles some of that as well. This is important to the parker lane
property. There is a lot of water that we can help control, and our
project and a zoning change would mandate that, basically. Height,
privacy, those kind of go hand in hand. We've been able to with a
multifamily 2-based zoning keep the height to two stories, which is also
unique to the properties around us. That's why we think the size and
scope -- scale of the property really fits in and gives it that
transition between a hard, kind of rough street, like parker lane, and
the interior neighborhood. Guest parking, we have had some of the
residents along parker lane ask for a couple more guest spots. That's
something we would plan to accommodate, but that's one of the areas
where we've been -- we really do need the impervious coverage that mf-2
allows for. Even things down to headlights and cars shining in, that
goes back to our site plan of having a way to really keep those
headlights within the property as opposed to any of the three sides. Of
course not across the street as you enter or exit on to parker lane, but
the other property owners adjacent. So taking into consideration the
number of these items, and again trying to limit the density to
something appropriate. We can do that here. The staff recommendation of
single-family 6 really comes down to the difference of having fewer
larger units. It's not a floor to area ratio or a building coverage
ratio or a size, especially with a two-story limitation. It's really
just dissecting those into a few more units to provide a more affordable
condo home, especially in this market. Apartment condition and something
we're okay with. That's something that's part of sf-6 automatically, but
i don't know why it couldn't be easily applied to an mf zoning. Our
zilker area project, we're tracking well above 5 green stars right now.
It's not said and done yet, but green building is part of all our
projects, so we would always agree to a minimum of that as well.
[One moment, please, for ] share with you guys, so if you have any
questions for me, I can take them.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, ryan. Questions for our agent/applicant? Thank
you, ryan.
Thank you.
Mayor Wynn: Let's see. So council, other than the folks that donated
time to ryan, there's no one here to give us testimony in favor of the
zoning case. We now go to folks in opposition. Our first speaker is tony
house. I saw tony earlier. I can't hear you.
We have a lead speaker for the neighborhood and that's mark
teranelli. Thiel speak later.
Mayor Wynn: Fair enough. So mark, it looks like folks wanted to
donate time to you, so is bradley bowls here? Welcome, bradley. How
about lucy
(indiscernible)? How are you? And carl braun? Welcome. And jim woodcock?
Jim had a flight to catch.
Mayor Wynn: Okay. So mark, you will have up to 12 minutes if you need
it. You will be followed by either richard bowls or tony house. Welcome.
Thank you. Good evening, mayor and councilmembers. My name is mark
teraneli. My wife and I live at 1702 helm hurst drive and have lived
there since 1984. We are members of the south river city citizens
neighborhood association. Our home abuts the parker lane lots on the
west side and the rear of our home where our main living space is locate
sheriff's department within 20 feet of the -- is located within 20 feet
of the property line. We oppose the up zoning of the parker lane lots
from single 3 to multi-family 3 co for many reasons. We support
retaining the east riverside oltorf combined neighborhood planning area
future land use map, single-family 3 designation for the four lots in
question. We believe the big picture concerns of the neighborhood
planning area were fully considered during the approximately three-year
planning effort that it took to complete this area's future land use
map. The single-family 3 designation of these lots is appropriate for
lots bordering our single-family neighborhood. They provide green space
and buffering from the commercial and multi-family zoning to the east.
This area of town has significant soil and drainage problems which will
be exacerbated by more impervious cover if additional multi-family units
are built. Shortly after moving into our home in 1984, we began to
experience drainage problems caused by the parker square condominiums
located on the south border of the proposed upzoning area. We and our
neighbors fear more problems will develop with any new multi-family
development on parker lane. We have been frustrated in our efforts to
get help from the city with our drainage problems and have been told
that it will take a capital improvement project to fix our storm
drainage problems. We welcomed the dewpoint of duplexes or single-family
homes on the four parker lane lots currently zoned single-family 3. As I
am sure that you are aware, this is the second application for rezoning
of these lots by this developer. After 14 meetings with the applicant,
it is our current understanding that he will not alter his planes plans
from mf-3 zoning to build the 16-unit condo development he's proposing.
His drawings are not quipsing to us that he could fit that 16-unit
development under an mf-2-co guideline. We've -- since the applicant has
no apparent interest in the smaller condo development and has stated
that duplexes are his only other consideration for development of these
lots, we've advised him that we support a duplex or townhouse project.
We support maintaining the west side of parker lane in its current
zoning configuration so that it can effectively serve as a physical
border and buffer for our single-family neighborhood. Currently this
dense commercial and multi-family development begins on the east side of
parker lane and continues to the east riverside corridor. We oppose
further infiltration into our single-family neighborhood by unplanned
multi-family development. Our area, future use land map, has designated
jean russ amount -- generous amounts of multi-family zoning of
development in other areas of our combined neighborhood. We support
maintaining the west side of parker lane in its current zoning
configuration so that we can retain the green space existing there. It
should be noted that the riverside neighborhood planning area has only
three percent green space, even though it is the most densely pop hated
area of the three east riverside oltorf combined neighborhoods. Without
sf-3 zoning, we essentially have no green space. We support planning --
the planned development of the east riverside/oltorf neighborhood
planning area. As it exists in the future land use map. We support
austin's neighborhood planning process and the single-family zoning
designation for these parker lane lots, which was done in light of
planning concerns for the entire eroc planning area. Consideration was
given to the interest of property owners, developers, business people
and city planners as well as to infrastructure needs. We asked you to
support the eroc neighborhood planning map and retain the single-family
zoning on these lots. Finally, I want you to be aware that in the final
negotiations of the first application for resoaping of these -- rezoning
of these properties, the applicant withdrew his application rather than
accept a compromise single-family 6 zoning that the city council had
directed him to consider. The abutting property owners and
representatives from the neighborhood association at that time went to
great efforts to draw up a compromise agreement to accept the sf-6
upzoning with conditions requiring a restrictive covenant and
performance bond. Thus far the applicant has refused to agree to
providing a restrictive covenant and performance bond to assure us of
his intentions to stand behind his plans and would prefer to negotiate
on a handshake. We prefer that he develop duplexes or townhomes under
the current sf-3 guidelines. I'd just like to show you a few picture and
I'll be done with my presentation. I just wanted to show you a bit of
the single-family neighborhood, the three abutting properties that this
is our home on elmhurst. The next shot is david, who is also abutting
property owner. The final picture there is richard bowls. The three of
us run down the western border of that project the the land that is
being considered for development is higher than the surrounding
single-family neighborhood. That picture shows of back of my home
standing on ground level from the property in question looking down.
Just another picture that demonstrates that's looking over the back
fence and down into our house and how vulnerable we are to height there.
bowls' home standing at the front edge of his house and looking back.
And the house in the background is the rental property on parker lane
which the applicant says is -- you can only see multi-family from his
property. And in fact, he's surrounded on the back side by single-family
neighborhood. Okay. And this is again just to show you kind of the slope
and the water issues. This is standing on parker lane looking at the
southern end of his property. You can see the grade goes back towards
the single-family and then slopes down toward riverside. I appreciate
it. ..
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. Questions for mark, council? Thank you, sir.
Tony house? And/or richard bowls? Mr. bowls, welcome. You will have
three minute house or dawn sizemore. mayor, council people. My name is
richard bowls. I li 1704 elmhurst drive. I've lived there for 39 years.
My property backs up to that house that mark just showed, which is
incidentally condemned and no one has lived in it for years. Apparently
the applicant is happy with that condition. He failed to show the other
two houses down the street which some of y'all might be interested in
driving by some day to see. They're very poor houses. I don't know how
anybody could live in one of them to tell you the truth. If the city
ordinance was obeyed, I'm sure they would close up those properties
there. But anyway, aside from that, from where we are together right
here now, there's a place of business over on congress avenue that has a
motto that says, we're from here. That's what my neighbors and I are on
elm hurst drive. We're from here. We've been here for a long time. We're
not looking for a vine-covered cottage in the woods. We're happy with
where we're at, we're happy living in the city of austin and we don't
appreciate what's been done on the back of our property. And this is the
only opportunity that we have to express the position that we feel
coming before this august body. But be that as it may, i would imagine
that this fellow that talked first would agree with me that he has got
the worst looking piece of property in south austin, at least in the
zoned area that we're in, and that would include from ben white down to
riverside drive and from 35 over to the west side of town or east side
of the town. The property is poor. It used to be where you could see --
if you saw at least a piece of property you figured that whoever owned
or operated that property was an individual that you could respect and
that you could count on. But that's not the case in this thing. He's got
property there that is just unreasonable and he doesn't want to do
anything about it. He bought the property, as my neighbor had just said,
that already was zoned for single-family. And now he wants to come
before the council and change that ordinance. You know, the council -- i
think everybody here would agree with me -- is not in the business of
seeing that a developer makes money on his investment. It's up to him to
do that. We're also aware of the fact that there are a number of
builders and developers that are happy and content with a reasonable
amount of profit. Then there are those that would like to have an
unreasonable amount of profit.
[ Buzzer sounds ] I think we're considering one of those at this time.
mayor, I see my time is up. I would ask that you vote no on this zoning
case and keep austin weird.
[ Laughter ]
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, mr. bowls.
[ Applause ] tony, you can try to follow that.
I know, it's tough. My name is tony house. I'm a secretary of the
east riverside oltorf neighborhood combining planning area. I would like
to point out that it is the property owner's responsibility to keep his
properties up. Applicant knew the condition of those properties when he
purchased them. He knew the zoning. And if he didn't know, he should
have known what our future land use map had -- what the staff and
stakeholders had recommended the zoning be for those properties. It's a
common tactic among developers especially in our area to allow their
properties to become run down so they can make the argument, well,
they're only good to be reyesed to the ground. I have to have an
upzoning to do this. And that's not right. I would also like to point
out that the single-family properties are located within the riverside
neighborhood planning area of eroc. The 2005 housing data from the
city's comparative neighborhood reports really puts the raise in this
proper perspective. In 2005 the riverside npa had 510 single-family
units. 528 Duplex, triplex and four-plex unit, and a whopping 6,050
multi-family units. Since 2005 over 2500 multi-family units have already
been approved and are either under construction now or in the planning
stages. This is going to increase our multi-family units to more than
8500. And we have more coming down the pipeline -- or that will be
coming before you very shortly. We do not need more multi-family units,
especially not on our single-family border. And this is riverside's only
single-family neighborhood. So we ask -- truly, we ask that you stop
offering us up to developers and a cheap date. Please start being choose
si and thoughtful about the location and the type of development that
you approve for riverside. Deny this rezoning request and planning
amendment. Thank you.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, ms. house. Let's see. Our next speaker is dawn
sizemore. I saw dawn earlier. Welcome back. Let's see. Is david smuk
here? Welcome dawn has offered you her time. You up to six minutes if
you need it.
Good after, councilmembers. I'm a member of the east riverside/oltorf
neighborhood planning contact team. And participated for several years
in the neighborhood planning process which added up to hundreds,
actually thousands of hours of citizen time and staff time. And during
that process there were extensive discussions on what was appropriate
density and what were the positive things of the neighborhoods in the
area that needed to be maintained and which things could be changed. And
a number of compromises and trade-offs were made during that process and
one of the goals, stated goals and objectives of the neighborhood plan
is to retain and protect the single-family neighborhoods that are long
established and thriving. People come to our neighborhood and are often
surprised. If you just drive down riverside and just see some of the
urban decay in those areas. Some of our neighbors have lived in their
homes for over 50 years and some are third generation in that
neighborhood. These four lots, it's not one property, but four
single-family lots, are part of our historic and cultural diversity that
has been a characteristic of our neighborhood for many years. I have
participated in many discussions with different kinds of developers and
planners and also I walk the neighborhood not only as a matter of
something to do, but also delivering news letters and I'm very aware of
our steep hills, grades, tree lined streets and the way that the
neighborhoods were designed by the previous developers who built
subdivisions there in what is a very hilly terrain. And so -- and in
addition, i talk to many of the people, including the elderly people,
and they're aware of the many creeks and springs and other kinds of
natural features in this area. And the slopes and different varying
elevations. One thing noose not clear if you just look -- one thing
that's not clear if you look at a plat map is these properties, these
four single-family lots have -- they do slope down and there is a creek
underground, goes underground for part of the way and it surfaces again
on the other side of the asphalt mess that is riverside. The water has
to go somewhere. Detention is important. More multi-family, just because
there's multi-family across the street, I think that's not a very valid
argument. We have seen in our area how too much multi-family has
contributed to serious social and community problems. It's a different
thing to see what happens five, 10, 20 years down the line. And it isn't
a very healthy thing to put a large multi-family type development right
backing up to a neighbor's house. I have personally seen in my house --
I live only a few hundred yards from these properties. There's streets
and other adjoining street appeared there are other properties there
that have a multi-family apartment building right behind them and they
have a lot of difficulty selling their house for what their fine homes
are worth. And one property owner had to actually pay to have the
apartment behind him painted, the apartment house painted behind them
because it was so unsightly and there's only so much you can do to
screen out that type of very unsightly -- there's noise, there's
disturbances of other kind, and so neighbors look down the line. And I
ask you as planners to look down the line and see that inserting more
multi-family zoning or use into a single-family neighborhood is
questionable. We have already lost just recently several other landmark
properties along parker lane and some that got zoning changes and are
now in a very sad state. I believe that the overall purpose of the
neighborhood planning hose prose is to limit the spot rezoning and do a
comprehensive type of looking at all of the factors involved. And so I
recommend that you see these as four single-family lots that are part
and parcel of a single-family neighborhood rather than just another
place where you can put up some multi-family uses. There are, as others
have said, many, many multi-family properties available with appropriate
zoning that -- in our area and there are relatively few neighborhoods as
nice as ours.
[ Buzzer sounds ] so thank you. And I ask you to respect the
neighborhood plan and respect the valid petition and deny this
inappropriate rezoning request. Thank you.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. Council, I believe that's all the folks who
have signed up wishing to give us testimony. For the record, gale golf,
linda land and malcolm yates also signed up in opposition, not wishing
to speak. brock that gives you an opportunity to have a last word or
perhaps rebut something you heard. We'll set the clock for three minute.
I won't rebut. I want everybody to know and understand that I have
three tenant who have been living in three of the four homes without any
turnover since we acquired the properties because I might self have
worked with them to do the best we can keeping the properties liveable
for them and keeping the rents at the price they can afford. I've been
over there many, many times. A lot of the comments that were made are
almost surprising because I think our development would balance those
better, especially water type issues. The size and scale really isn't
what we're talking about, especially with subdividing single-family
three. There's taller height allowed in single-family 3 than what we're
suggesting and different setbacks probably closer to some of the
neighbors' homes that spoke. There's too much detail to get into, and
what we found is that -- some of you guys know how much time I've spent
on some other cases, when we do get to sit down and get to the core
issues, there is a way to invite everybody and find an agreement that
works. And that's why we do have a number of people who have supported
us. They aren't here tonight, but they did send letters to you guys.
Because we were able to do that with a number of the people who would
like to see these improvements. So we're really talking about the
appropriate number of units to make the project work, not really the
size and scope. A single-family 3 zoning and development would be nearly
impossible when we're surrounded by other condo, multi-family projects,
and to get in and out of parker lane with a single-family 3 structure
just doesn't work. It wouldn't be attractive or feasible. So that's why
we came up with the best plan we could to present to you guys. Thank you.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. So council, that concludes the public hearing
aspect of this case. Questions of our applicant/agent, staff? Anybody
else for that matter? Comments? Motions? Councilmember morrison.
Morrison: I have a question probably for mr. guernsey. I understand
there was a piece in the not too distant past on the same property, and
sort of the same request. I wonder if you could give us a little review
of that.
Yes. There was a case that was filed on the same property, and in
your backup material, let me flip back over to that, it was withdrawn in
june of 2007. It was a request for mf-4 zoning. The planning commission
recommendation, staff recommendation in that particular case to
recommend denial. That case did not go forward. This case is less
intense in the sense that it is a request for mf-3, it allows building
height slightly less or actually less. Instead of 60 it would be 40. And
less density. So with any application, even though a case may be
withdrawn from your agenda or even if it's denied, an applicant can
refile an application of less intensity less than 18 months or 12 months
that might be prescribed by our code.
Morrison: So it went to planning commission and they recommended denial?
The previous case for the mf-4.
Morrison: And it never went to council?
It was withdrawn at council. It was placed on your agenda and withdrawn.
Mayor Wynn: Further questions of staff? Comments? Motions?
Cole: Mayor.
Mayor Wynn: Councilmember cole.
Cole: I appreciate the testimony of the applicant and also of the
neighbors, especially with respect to the riverside area. We know we've
had a number of cases that make that area challenging because we do want
to maintain the single-family aspects of it while we recognize that it
has often had a high number of student population. So with that I'd like
to make a motion to adopt the planning commission recommendation.
Mayor Wynn: We have a motion by councilmember cole to close the
public hearing and accept the planning commission recommendation, which
first reading only, mr. guernsey is asking.
Cole: Yeah, first reading only.
Mayor Wynn: And remind me, mr. guernsey. The planning commission
recommendation --
Cole: Sf-6-co-np.
The planning commission's recommendation was to recommend on the
future land use map a higher density single-family and for the zoning
would be sf-6 with a conditional overlay and within the neighborhood
plan combining district area with two limitations, a 25-foot set back
along the rear with vegetation and limit the height to two stories or 35
feet maximum on the property. And we do not have an ordinance prepared
for those because we are aware of the opposition coming in to this
evening to the case, so these would only be ready this evening for first
reading.
Mayor Wynn: And that also is staff recommendation as well.
That's correct.
Mayor Wynn: We have a motion from councilmember cole to close the
public hearing and approve planning commission recommendation as
guernsey on first reading only. Seconded by the mayor pro tem. Further
comments? Councilmember morrison?
Morrison: I think that the numbers that were presented in terms of
multi-family and single-family and the goal of the neighborhood plan to
be able to maintain the single-family property that does exist now, as
minimal as it is, I think that it's really important that we stick with
what was adopted in the neighborhood plan and not upzone this even to a
high density single-family. So I won't be able to support the motion.
Mayor Wynn: A motion and second on the table, first reading only,
planning commission and staff recommendation. Further comments? I'll
just say I will be supporting the motion, but as is often times the
case, would appreciate frankly a little more analysis of the impact of
that zoning category and those conditions on the actual zoning. Further
comments? Hearing none, all those in ? Opposed? Motion passes on first
reading only on a vote of five-two with councilmembers leffingwell and
morrison voting no. Thank you all. So council -- mr. guernsey.
I was going to say that concludes our zoning items this evening. 00
public hearings.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, mr. guernsey. So again, we heard, council,
that ends our zoning cases for the evening. We now have I believe five
public hearings to conduct. Seeing how we have already postponed item 48
for a month or more. So it looks like our first series of public
hearings or annexations, welcome back ms. virginia collier.
Yes, sir. My name is virginia collier from the neighborhood planning
department. This is the second of two public hearings for the following
set of three full purpose annextion areas, items 43 through 45. Council
will not be taking action on these items today. An ordinance readings
are tentatively scheduled for APRIL 2nd. Item number 43 is the barclay
drive right-of-way satisfaction area which 10 of an acre and extends the
northernmost extent of barclay drive which is approximately 400 feet
noartsdz of intersection of barclay drive and wild briar pass. This is
currently in the city's limited jurisdiction and includes a small pors
of right-of-way that has been previously included by previous
annexations, the most recent occurring in december 2008. I've brought
copies of the service plan and put those out front this evening. Upon
annexation the city will provide full municipal services as described in
the service plan and this concludes my presentation for item 43.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, ms. collier. Questions for staff, council?
Let's see. Are there any citizens that would like to give us testimony
on this public hearing, item 43 regarding the full purpose annextion of
the barclay drive right-of-way annexation area? Motion by mayor pro tem,
seconded by commas to close the co--- committee councilmember shade to
close the public hearing. Motion pass odds a vote of six to zero with
councilmember cole off the dais.
Item number 44 is the international residence apartments annexation
area which includes approximately four acres locate understand southern
williamson county at the northeast corner of the intersection of copper
creek drive and pond woods road. This area is currently in and includes
the balance after multi-family property that was annexed in december
2008. This area is adjacent to the city's full purpose jurisdiction on
the north and west sides and annexation of this area will help ensure
appropriate emergency dispatch and increase the efficiency and delivery
of public safety services. Again, copies of the service plan are
available this evening and I would be happy to answer any questions you
have on item 44.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, ms. collier. Questions of staff, council? Are
there any citizens that would like to give us testimony on this public
hearing, item 44 regarding the full purpose annextion of the
international residence apartments annexation area. Motion my the mayor
pro tem, seconded by councilmember shade to close the public hearing.
All in favor please say aye. Opposed? Motion to close the public hearing
passes on a vote of six to zero again with councilmember cole off the dais.
Item number 45 is a south i-35 annexation area which includes
approximately 58 acres in southern travis county east of i-35
approximately one-half mile south of the intersection of i-35 and onion
creek parkway. This area is currently in and is adjacent to the city's
full purpose annextion on the west side. This is an undeveloped piece of
property and the owner has requested annexation facilitate zoning of his
site. The city will provide full municipal services as described in the
service plan as present this had evening. This concludes my presentation
for item 45.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. Again, council, questions for staff on item
number 45? Or are there any citizens that would like to give us
testimony on this public hearing, item 45, regarding the full purpose
annextion of the south i-35 annexation area? Hearing none, I'll
entertain a motion to close the public hearing. Moved by mayor pro tem,
seconded by councilmember morrison to close the public hearing. All in
favor please say aye? Opposed? Motion to close the public hearing passes
on a vote of seven to zero. If you don't mind before we go to item 46,
we have a number of folks who I think we can sort of hunker down and end
the evening with. Item 47 is to conduct a public hearing regarding an
ordinance for appealing and replacing certain articles of what we refer
to as our electric code. We would appreciate a brief staff presentation.
Good evening, mayor and council. Leon barber, building official. Item
47 is requesting council approval to move forward with the 2008 national
electrical code. We are currently under the 2005 electrical code. And
this 2008 also includes some local amendments that will allow a bit of
cost savings through some of our builders too. That was my presentation.
If you have any questions, unless you have anything that you want to ask
of me.
Mayor Wynn: Remind me, this comes to us recommended by our electrical
board.
Yes.
Mayor Wynn: Council, any questions for staff? Comments? Are there any
citizens that would like to give testimony at this public hearing, item
47 regarding replacing certain elements of our electric code? Hearing
none -- motion by the mayor pro tem to close the public hearing and
approve on all three readings. Seconded by councilmember morrison.
Further comments? Hearing none, all those in favor please say aye.
Opposed? Motion passes on a vote of seven to zero.
Thank you, mayor and council.
Mayor Wynn: Council, that leaves us now with our final public hearing
of the evening, item number 46 is to receive citizen input regarding
essentially our consolidated plan and margaret shaw. mayor, members of
council. My name is margaret shaw, director of neighborhood housing and
community development. This is our annual process, part of an annual
process. We're actually kicking off our five-year plan to receive
housing and urban development block grants. So for the federal
regulations require that we have a certain series of public input. I
have a few slides here to walk you through the context of what we're
doing here tonight. The consolidated plan as i mentioned is a five-year
requires us to do to get the four block formula block grants that we
receive. On an annual basis we prepare an action plan. There's a
distinction between the two. The con plan that you can see from right
now is from 2004 to 2009. The next one will run from 2009 to 2014. The
components of every city over 50,000 that receives grants are a housing
market study, the results of public participation that are required
through the h.u.d. Process as well as the community setting its
priorities for the use of these housing and community development block
grants. And the housing and community development strategic plan. So how
over these five years they're going to use these, identify your needs
and then use these funds to meet those needs. The public input process,
which is also required by federal regulation that austin has chosen for
itself is to do five initial public hearings which are needs assessment
hearings. We're right now in the middle of that towards the end of it.
We have this one city council hearing. We have two community -- two
public hearings before the community development commission. The last
one of which will be monday night, the nine here in city hall. We also
have one before the community action network and held one before the hiv
planning council. One of the grants that we receive is called hopra,
housing people for people with aids, so it's important for us to hear
directly from the hiv/aids community on how to spend those funds. We
also do a series of stakeholder meetings. The plan is then drafted by
staff and released for a 30-day public comment period. That will be
roughly the month of june. And the final report is due on august 15th of
2009. This body will see another hearing at the middle of the summer,
june/july. Then we'll take action on the plan itself. We come out, this
is our department's budget, so we're a little out of order with the rest
of the city's budget. That causes some confusion. You can also go to our
website, city of org/housing for some other opportunities for input. I'm
proud of my staff in that we have our online survey for the first time
we're focusing on throughout this process and give us some comments
through next week. Next slide is the steps to creating a plan, again
what every community goes through, the plan has identifying the needs.
You heard a preliminary presentation from bbc research and consulting
who we hired this year to create those gaps analysis and look at those.
We also have public input and an inventory of all of the available
resources for housing. The next aspect of the plan is to set community
priorities on what is our priority for spending funds. For example, in
our existing consolidated plan, one of the items that cdbg funds for,
but the community decided was not that important were public facilities.
So building more buildings that serve the public, they decided as we've
had for years on end that affordable housing, job creation and child
care were the three most important issues, so other things rank a little
lower and public facilities for one was not included. To give you an
example of what some of these bureaucratic terms mean. The programs then
that we will have to respond to those needs and then how are those funds
going to meet those needs? Next is the funding that we have available.
Again, we have four formula grants that we received from and a formula
is based on a complicated formula based on poverty, population and other
factors in the city for the community development block grant fund. We
also get home investment partnerships, which creates new housing for
people earning less than 50% of the median family income. Emergency
shelter grants are focused on a homeless population and serving them.
Again as I mentioned earlier, hopfa for people with aids and hiv. In
addition to the federal grant funds, h.u.d. Considers the city of austin
a best practice network. In fact, they've referred our department, many
people to our department because we are one of the only communities that
puts all of our funding in our consolidated plan. So you can also go to
one document to see our general obligation bond funds, any of the
general funds or any other local resources we have. Our program income,
which is what's generated off of our entitlement programs. Next we have
the eligible. Activities underneath this funding. Obviously it's a very,
very broad category. We've highlighted some of them here, affordable
housing from either rental or home ownership to down payment assistance
of putting on a roof, rehab, rental and utility assistance. We have one
of our popular programs and one we've heard this year, more popular than
usual is our tenant based rental assistance where we help some of the
folks coming out of homeless shelters. Creating jobs, small business
development, public facilities as I mentioned, public services. We can
only spend 15% of our monies on these, but they include things like
child care, assistance to youth and families, senior services,
commercial revielgtization, many of the achievements that you saw a few
weeks ago on the east 11th and 12th street revitalization were done
through cdbg and the section 108 loan program offered through cdbg as
well as the homeless shelter operations and again help for people with
hiv and raids. Our priorities for '04 to '09 considered high again as I
mentioned are housing, all as speks of affordable housing. Smowbs
development, commercial revitalization, which are a key job creation
programs and public services. So that's again child care, senior
services, youth services. Our priorities for this year, so coming up for
the next five-year plan will be set by council in the summer of 2009.
And last I also wanted to add, because we're all starting to hear a lot,
the federal government released the symptom must package. Just last
week, and I wanted to highlight for folks here that while we know some,
but not a lot, we did receive the city of austin an additional two
million dollars in community development block grant funds so it will be
issued by that formula. We do not know yet when or how we will receive
those funds. But I do want to highlight for both the public and the
council that as you know, the stimulus package for the city will be
treated as a package in and of itself, so our cdbg programs, you'll see
that under the city's stimulus efforts, not through the consolidated
plan. At this point the government is requiring us to do amendment to
our action plan to receive this money. So for our current year budget we
would have to amend it to include these two million dollars. Right now
our plan would require a 30-day comment period and other council public
hearing. Many of the cities have then in washington that if we are
trying to obligate these funds in less than 120 days, it could be
difficult to do that with such a long public input process and we would
shorten it to one more like the caper where we would have some public
input, but note that would slow down the ability for us to obligate the
funds in 120 days, which is also required by the law. So I just want to
throw out that for stimulus. Unless you have fi questions for me, I
would be happy to turn to the folks who have signed up and come out
tonight. Thank you very much for your support.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you, ms. shaw. Questions for staff, council? Before
we conduct our public testimony? If not, then we will go to we'll take
these in the sequence that I believe folks signed up. Our first speaker
is helen vardy. I saw her earlier. Welcome back, helen. You will have
three minutes to be followed by joe quinn, who will be followed by
lindsey harvel.
I'm helen vardy, the director of front steps. We do work with the
homeless and other good stuff as well. The consolidated plan need to
include housing for austin homeless citizens including those suffering
from chronic alcoholism. Some people might wonder why we would house
someone with chronic alcoholism. Some would say we are giving something
to undeserved people. Others will say this we are giving up on treating
the alcoholism. I believe that we need to help austin citizens view
alcoholism from the medical model. The chemical reactions that institute
the disease of alcohol is to take place in the core of the brain. In
human developments, this is the oldest part of the brain. If you were an
alcoholic, the same part of the brain that tells you to seat, breathe
and run for your life is telling you to drink. This part of the brain
can employ other parts of the brain, hence rationalism and a little
cunning, baffling and powerful disease. I know this sounds harsh, but we
must recognize that alcoholism is a physiological disease and like any
other disease the job of this disease is to destroy the host. A life
preserver will always be available and a few even in the late stages of
this disease will be able to grab hold. I understand that finding a
location for housing chronic homeless alcoholics will be hard, but other
cities have done it. Alcoholism is a physiological progressive and often
fatal illness. We don't let people with cancer or diabetes die on the
streets. Last year 135 people died on austin streets. No more people in
austin should die on the streets. Thank you.
[ Applause ] mayor, members of the city council. My name is jo catherine
quinn and I'm a department director at caritas of austin. Earlier today
in the market housing study briefing you saw the gap in available
housing for people making less than $20,000 per year. Not counting
students, the gap is about 28,200. In austin's consolidated prioritize
housing to fill this gap and housing for the chroniclely homeless.
Homelessness is not a necessary social ill. It is a symptom of systemic
social failure which we can reverse. We can make homelessness rare and
episodic and a range of housing options is the missing component for our
community to realize this goal. Let me tell you of the story of jack
sanderson to illustrate my point. A real person whose name I've changed.
Prior to becoming homeless, sarndson was a stable, successful accountant
who did tax work. At some point, we're unsure of the time line, he began
to sperps bouts of dilution, started self-medicating with alcohol, lost
his job and became homeless. sanderson had numerous, though minor
convictions for homelessness related crimes. None violent. And lack of
housing stability contributed to his poor health. His delusions
continued and he developed diabetes and hyper tentative heart disease.
Last april jack attended caritas' monthly orientation to learn about
services that could benefit him. He quickly engaged with his case
manager. He proactively addressed his health and housing challenges by
attending outpatient alcohol abuse treatment, seeing a physician at
health care for the homeless, getting treatment for delusions and
applying for housing with a local affordable housing provider. In spite
of tremendous progress on jack's part, he was denied housing due to his
criminal background. He and the case managerred talked for him. Numerous
letters were sent to the housing provider on his behalf. He was still
denied, but he kept appealing. During the process of his appeal on
september 4th, 30 in the afternoon, jack was found dead by a jogger on
lady bird lake. The coroner's report said sanderson, age 52, died of
hypertensive heart disease with no signs of trauma. Housing could have
made a significant contribution to stabilize this man's health.
Affordable housing is so scarce in our community that even affordable
housing providers can exclude people from minor criminal offenses.
Housing that could have saved his life. Caritas stands ready to work
with the city of austin and all interested parties to employ our
knowledge to create opportunities for every person to be housed. Thank you.
Mayor Wynn: Thank you. Earlier I had called lindsey harvil's name.
You can come forward. Okay.
Thank you, guys. I work with joe catsd rin quinn. My name is lindsey
and i work at caritas of austin. I work directly with people who are
homeless. I'm asking that you prioritize and remember the homeless
population when you make decisions about the city's consolidated plan.
Basically the issue is that we are experiencing a new type of problem
with homelessness. I'm going to illustrate the severity of the problem
with the story about a client. I have a client who is 45 years old. He
works full time. He does not have a disability, but he will wait a
minimum of three to five years on the housing authority list. This is
way too long for us to even consider it an option. His physical and
mental health will soon deteriorate if he stays on the street that long.
His only option is the private market. But guess what? Even though he
works full time, he still can't afford the private market. We've had
many conversations. He feels like giving up. I encourage him to keep
going, but what really shocks me about his situation is here is a man
who is physically and mentally healthy. He's working full time, has no
criminal record and still the door is shut for him. He comes in every
session and tells me how he fears that life on the street wills
eventually catch up to him, costing him his life, health or his job. The
emerging problem we are seeing is a result of the economic downturn.
It's basically a drastic increase in people who are starting out in good
physical and emotional health and they don't have a disability. What
happens is that they usually get full-time jobs again, but they still
cannot afford the market rate rent. What I'm talking about is we need
affordable housing for people who are making under $22,000 a year.
Basically I wanted to illustrate this on the city of austin's housing
continuum. This is basically the goal of the city of austin is to get
people from emergency shelters all the way to home ownership, but what
happens is that we have such a gap here in assisted housing, affordable
units. What I'm talking about is housing units where rent is around $400
a month for people making less than $22,000 a year. Because of the gap
here people really need this to get to here because they just need a
chance to get stable again, start saving money again, work on their
educational goals. Without this basically we're seeing more and more
people that are going to be seeking emergency services at the city of
austin. You guys, we're going to have so many people overcrowding the
shelters and sleeping on the streets that you're eventually going to
have to put money here in emergency shelters instead of housing. So
sometimes what these clients do manage to do is they save up a month's
rent or two. They can get back into the private market for a month or
two. They cycle back into homelessness. So basically these clients are
sitting on our caseloads and we're getting more and of them. If we do
not create affordable housing units for people making less than $22,000
a year, I'm really worried about what will happen with the city. Thank
you for your time. I really appreciate it.
[ Applause ]
Mayor Wynn: Our next speaker is jennifer mcphail. Welcome. You will
be follow bid joanna green.
I'm jennifer mcphail with adapt of texas. I'll start out by focusing
on a truly affordable housing for people with disabilities who are
extremely low income. Most of us who receive ssi make about 674 a month,
which comes out to be about $8,088 a year. While I agree with the
previous speakers that we need to fe cuss on housing -- focus on housing
on rents below 22,000, we also need to concentrate on very much lower
affordable housing because there is a demand for that. And as people get
older and need more assistance, they're going to become poor. That's
typically what happens. So the next issue is somewhat more complex
because most of you may not be as familiar as we are with the program,
but you have the architectural barrier removal program, which assists
people with disabilities who have mobility impairments that have
barriers in their housing that they need to have removed so that they
can access their housing. There are differences in interpretation.
Recently with the eligibility for services that we're concerned about,
what had happened for quite awhile for decades is that you went by the
individual's income and made sure that the project as a whole was geared
towards those below the poverty level so that you had some flexibility
in who you served. But now neighborhood housing and community
development is requiring that the entire project that they make the
changes to be below poverty level. So that if you're a person with a
disability who has a section 8 voucher who goes to a market rate
apartment complex to live, if your section 8 voucher is taken, then
you're not allowed to access avr program because you're not living below
poverty as a whole. The entire complex. And we think that that's a
misinterpretation of the requirements. When we brought this up, we
weren't on the section that required that, we were given all of the
requirements. We still haven't been able to find the section that
requires that change. And then one of the other important issues is
enforcement of housing laws that require accessibility. The tenants
council gets 60 percent of all their tenants rights complaints based on
disability. So that people like me who are looking for an apartment to
rent in the community are being discriminated against 60% of the time.
That should not be tolerated and they should get more funding to more
aggressively enforce the law because it's incredibly important. We would
also like to say on record that we still support separating services
from housing. If you have one of those landlords that is not as open to
serving people with disabilities and on top of everything else they
provide your personal services, that can make your life very difficult.
And last but not least, we would also like to expand accessibility
requirements in single-family housing. Thank you.
Good evening. My name is johanne in a green and I'm a case mrpg at
caritas of austin as well. I work directly with people who don't have
homes. And I urge you to please remember the homeless population when
you make a decision about the consolidation plan. When we first meet
with our clients, the main question we always are asked is when are we
going to get our house now or a place to live. This is the answer and
the barrier that we continually are coming up against. The market, the
housing market is not affordable for clients receiving fixed income like
social security or have barriers from their past. I have a client with a
steady income, but because of a past criminal history she is still
denied affordable housing and cannot afford the fair market rates. She
works really hard and still the door won't budge for her. Being front
lines of the homeless epidemic has shown many gaps in the system that
continue to keep on our individual -- to keep individuals in the shelter
if they're lucky enough to even get into the shelters. Most individuals
are stuck in a cycle that shows no help hoap for obtaining affordable
housing. Other agencies working with the same population run into the
same brick wall. Nowhere for a person to exit for safe, affordable
housing. Housing is not an issue, but affordability is. With the
shelters maxed out and the growing population of single homeless them,
they have become major targets of victimization. I have women's group
and 98 percent of the women in my group have been sexually assaulted,
raped and/or dealt with domestic violence. Safety is such a concern i
have recently had clients choose between shelter or do a good job.
Knowing the risks that she would have to endure on the streets forced
her to leave a high-paying job in order to keep her bunk. We have to
find a way to allow client the safety that all people deserve. Money
should be used for the poor people that have limited resources so they
can improve their quality of life. The impact of this economy has sent
more and more people to our reinjure orientation. When I first started
orientation, it was about 15 to 20 people. Now we're up to 50 plus. Our
caseloads are maxed out. We're overwhelmed with clients playing by the
rules, making good decisions, working hard on their stability plan, but
we can't serve everyone and many fall through the cracks. If the housing
barrier continues, the cycle continues. Having support tif housing and
case management service goes hand in hand. They are successful. To be
able to be effective at advocate fog our clients, we need the resources.
The homeless population is not going anywhere until these issues are
resolved. And the increase of the specific population is only going to
grow as the economic crisis shows it's ugly face.
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we can treat one another with dignity and respect, provide
opportunities to grow to our fullest lives and help one another discover
and develop our unique gifts. We can extend this to others. I urge you
to extend it to others. I thank you very much for your time. thank you,
ms. green.
[Applause] hiams flores, you'll be followed by charlene.
I'm matil, flores and i am the coordinator for the austin
coordinator. I also work for aids services of austin. The core sorch you
mean serves five areas, including travis county we help with rent,
mortgage and utilities. It offers case management to persons with hiv
and/or aids and we serve 333 clients in 2007-2008. Research shows that
housing stability with persons with hiv indicates the following. Persons
with stable housing are less likely to engage in sex and drug-risk
behaviors than those who are homeless or not in stable housing. This is
crucial to hiv prevention. As housing status improves, so do health
outcomes such as reduction in hospitalizations, improved medication
adherence, reduction in sex-trade activities and improvement in mental
health status. The consolidate plan needs to include more long-term
affordable housing, as you've already heard several times tonight. Many
hiv clients are eligible for section 8 and public housing, but it can
take 18 24 months after applying to receive public housing and three
years or more to receive section 8 once on a waiting list. Many hiv
clients are forced to live on 65078 a month from their disability
checks, so they have to have subsidized housing. The plan needs to
include more transitional housing. There is a need for immediate
transitional housing that meets the hiv client needs for medical and
confidentiality issues, especially for the homeless and those with
criminal background histories. It's difficult to preserve
confidentiality at the salvation army or arch. The plan needs to include
more affordable housing for those with criminal background histories.
You've heard this before too. These clients have an uphill battle with
obtaining housing. Most complexes that offer low income housing, public
housing or section 8 housing will not rent to clients with past criminal
histories. Some landlords won't allow any felonies, when in the past the
case managers used to get approval on these and get exceptions made. The
plan needs to include more affordable housing for those with credit
rental history problems. These serve as barriers and clients frequently
are rejected because of past credit difficulties and/or history of
addictions, and as other speakers have mentioned, housing chronically --
chronic substance abusers needs to take priority. When affordable
options are eliminated our clients are often facing chronic
homelessness. I have a client all right. Residentletter I'm going to try
and read this. I got on section 8 after one year waiting several yrgs. I
had to check with 30 places to get accepted for housing due to several
charges committed years ago prior. As a person receiving section 8
housing it has greatly improved my quality of life, meaning I'm able to
pay my monthly expenses, adhere to my medical needs without distress of
finding a plift place to live or distress of most of my disability check
going to rent. I have an affordable place to live that allows me to take
care of myself both physically and mentally.
[Applause] thank you ms. himes flores. richardson, you'll have three
minutes to be followed by jason harris.
I'm charlene richardson. Hello to everyone. I'm an employee with aids
services of austin and I've been doing outreach work and I've been going
to places like the arch, salvation army, you know, just giving out
information. And one of the things that I've found, homelessness is real
here in austin, and affordable housing is very much needed. So what I
would like to say is this. The existing agencies that are doing things
like section 8 housing, austin housing authority, we need to continue to
implement those services and maybe it will help some of the people that
are without. Thank you. thank you, charlene.
[Applause]
mayor wynn: jason harris? Jason harris signed up wishing to give us
testimony. To be followed by elizabeth dosman.
Hey, good evening. Thanks for having us today. I just wanted to tell
you that my name is elizabeth dosman and I am a case manager at the
austin-travis county mental health mental retardation, specifically the
care program. We work with hiv positive clients that are also affected
by substance abuse and mental health. I wanted to tell you about a plan
I have been working with trying to get as much help as possible. His
name is steve. I started working with him when he was in the hospital at
brackenridge. He had knew moneyian and he knew money pneumonia and full
bloan aids. He was going to be discharged to the street. He already had
social security so he had a $674 income. He had had a past clean time of
over two years from his crack addiction. He also had had much success
with his hiv medication as well as his schizophrenia medication. So he
had gotten healthy. He had been able to calm the voices and was doing a
great job until he relapsed. But now he's in the hospital. He hasn't
been on medication. He's hearing voices, and he's about to be on the
street. So what are his options? He has a drug flown, and he needs to
limit where he can stay. He can't get food stamps because of that drug
flown. Felony. He also has an old utility bill so if you have an old
electric bill, his is $800. He would have to pay that off to get on the
haka list to get into several project transitions and other
opportunities for people that are living with aids. And he's trying to
get clean. So that's a little bit hard to do on the streets. So what
options do I have for him? I have the shelters that everyone told you up
here, fleece a lot of drug use going on. There's a lot of alcohol. You
have to leave during the day and where are you? You're at 12th chican,
you're at 7th street. Weekly hotels. That's another option I can get him
into. Okay. That's not the best situation for someone trying to get
clean and trying to make doctors' appointments, take his hiv medications
as well as his schizophrenia medication. Other ideas, I would love to
have some. Boarding homes. They are hit and miss. Sometimes they are
great, and they are wonderful for people that only have $674, but they
can just as easily turn into a crack house in three weeks. So for home
like steve and other clients I work with that are living with hiv, i
need your help and provide funding for that. So I thank you for your
time. thank you, ms. dosman.
[Applause]
mayor michael laster. Welcome, you too will have three minutes to be
followed BY joyce McDonald.
Thank you. Three minutes, no time for eloquence. Michael lastitter of
the rice kate wellness center. I've worked on hiv people with four and a
half years. Austin's primary homeless shelters are crack houses. They
should be safe places to spend the night, a stable platform from which
our down on their luck citizens were launch their efforts at rejoining
mainstream society. Instead they're places to get high, robbed, beaten
or pimped. A solution with voluntary security for residents who want to
do right and spend the night in safety. Clients who want to recover from
drug addiction, no jobs, no place to live except boarding houses,
halfway houses, sober houses. Owners are crooks, promises not kept,
houses not drug fre free, recovery threatened, no recourse. Solution,
housing authority should run them, allow successful residents to
graduate to public housing communities. Public housing. Two-year wait,
even when prioritized as disabled. What to do in the meantime? Pay 70 to
80% of social security check toward rent. How do you live in austin,
texas on $650 a month? Solution? More public housing, more section 8,
more money to successful programs such as project transitions and
foundation communities. Gigantic light bills haunt my clients, a decade
or more. They prevent move ins and new housing. let them work it off
through community service and better educate utility customers on
closing out accounts. Illegal immigrants, disabled, can't work, no
income, not eligible for social security, not eligible for public
housing. Transitional housing available, but nothing permanent, nothing
to transition to. Go back to mexico? No treatment, no hiv meds. Go back
to mexico is a death sentence. Solution: time's up.
[Applause] that's mr. laster. joyce McDonald. Okay. How about rory o'mally?
Good evening, mayor and members of the council. My name is rory
o'mally and I'm with the frameworks community development corporation.
We're a hud approved housing counseling agency that does home buyer
education and we also do foreclosure prevention counseling work with
families in the austin area. And I've just handed the technician a flash
drive that's got a map on it that you can see. Foreclosures have been
increasing dramatically in the austin area in the last 18 months. What
you have before you is a map that shows the single-family foreclosure
postings for 2006 through 2008. In that time period there have been 9300
homes that have been posted for foreclosure, and then there have been an
additional -- and that's just single-family homes. There have been about
an additional 2,000 condominiums, townhouses, mobile homes and other --
duplexes and other kinds of housing. What we're seeing is that with, you
know, a combination of adjustable rate mortgages, subprime lending
practices combined with family spacing, loss of employment, a
substantial reduction of employment, we're getting an increasing number
of families who are facing mortgage delinquency and potential loss of
their house. We think it's really important to the health and well-being
of those families and to the community as a whole to keep them in their
housing so that they do not become a burden on the community through
homelessness, through mental health problems, through health issues,
through children being disrupted from their schooling and having to move
around. We also think it's beneficial in that they maintain their
housing, they protect it, there's less crime, there's less decreases in
property values, you know, for the surrounding neighborhoods. So we
think it ought to be a priority in this neighborhood to keep families in
their housing. Now, there's been -- you know, in the last two weeks and
today -- or yesterday, president obama's plan to help in this crisis,
and there's some tremendous strides in those programs to help refinance
in certain circumstances, to help modify loans in certain circumstances,
to give lenders incentives to modify loans and work with families. But
it's been our experience that the big problem is not with the loans that
are secured by freddie may and fannie mae, it's the loans to the
subprime lenders, that constitute about 45% of the loans that are the
big problem and the toughest to work with. Framework does intensive
foreclosure production, counseling work with families. We help them to
create action plans. We help them to negotiate with lenders for plans
which are feasible for the family and acceptable to the lender, and we
urge you to put funding as a part of the consolidated plan in the
foreclosure prevention counseling services. Thank you very much. thank
you, mr. owe mally. Mr.-- mally.
[Applause] eric rivera signed us to give us testimony, as did edward
McCOURSE. WELCOME, MR. McCOURSE. You'll be followed by ted hughes.
Good evening. I am here on the ending community homelessness
community, which goes by the name of echo and you may be familiar with
that. Echo is a coalition of the service -- the agencies in programs in
the austin area that provide services to homeless folks and help them
get back into housing. I'm here today to ask that you continue the high
priority that you placed in the 2004 plan on providing transitional
housing and affordable housing, rent utility assistance. The one
additional item i would ask is that when you do that, you put a priority
on making that transitional and permanent housing supportive housing,
and that is housing that is tied to s services that allow people to
successfully remain housed on their own and to move back into the
community. Echo recently coordinated the application of the austin
area's hud continuum of care application. As a part of that process the
agencies that were participating made a commitment to moving towards
more housing that included both those types of housing. As a result we
were able to get an extra million dollars through the coc funding this
year, through the sacrifice and commitment of those agencies that gave
up service dollars to refocus on housing dollars. And so as we move into
these plans we need the help of the community to help -- through this
process to help us get money back, help provide the services that will
keep people housed. My second request is that as we move forward on the
consolidated plan, we coordinate it with echo's ongoing process of
reviving austin's ten-year plan to end community homelessness. We will
be coming out with that plan and I anticipate we'll be bringing it to
this body towards the end of may and that is intended to have objectives
as well as some specific strategies for addressing the homeless
population and getting them into housing. You've heard from many members
of the echo coalition here tonight. They've explained the need. I don't
think anyone will leave here tonight wondering whether there's a need
for homeless services and housing for the homeless in austin. But we ask
that as you move forward we recognize the community priorities and find
the ways that will be most successful in transitioning people away from
the condition of homelessness and into housing. Thank you. thank you,
MR. McCOURSE.
[Applause] ed wilkins. You too will have three minutes to be followed by
joseph --
I'm ted hughes. Thank you, mayor, and council members. I'm on the
board of the austin chapter of the national alliance on mental illness,
and I'm coming here tonight to support everything that's been said so
far. I think you get the message. Many of the people that are homeless,
many of the people who are ill-housed in our city are suffering from
mental illnesses and many of those people are suffering from
co-occurring substance use disorders. It's a very difficult group to
treat, and they're a growing group. All of you on the dais tonight are
too young to remember, but we once had a president from central texas
who launched a war against poverty and then followed him with a
president who launched a war against drugs. And for the past 20 years we
have been filling our prisons and jails at an enormous pace. We have not
followed that up with any kind of reentry program, no coordinated
effort. What I'm calling you on to do is to include in the consolidated
plan and in all of your planning, budgeting for the city, a -- an office
or an agency that you create to pull these things together. There are
people in-housing, there are people in drug treatment, there are people
in mental illness. There are people in criminal justice. They don't talk
to each other very often except when they need something from one
another. The courts, I can assure you, are very well aware of the need
for sentencing alternatives or sometimes what's called jail diversion.
They don't have anyplace to divert people to. You cannot treat these
co-occurring disorders unless you treat them simultaneously, and you
can't treat them simultaneously unless the people are properly housed.
We've got to do something to coordinate all of these efforts. I come to
you to congratulate you, mayor wynn, for joining with the other mayors
of the largest cities in texas. Nobody has mentioned this, but you're
asking for $25 million from the state legislature for supportive
housing, and we need that. Maybe, mike moncreef from fort wert, he said,
housing work cannot work alone, se cannot work alone and we can't do
anything if we don't do something. So we've got to get together on this.
We've got to make this an urgent plea. We're wasting money, hand over
fist on running these people through the criminal justice system. It's a
revolving door. You've all heard the metaphor before.
Here here!
But it's true. And we'll say, we're trying to do the same thing again
and again hoping for a different result. We've got to change our
approach and we've got to start by taking it seriously, making it an
urgent need in the city. Thank you. thank you, mr. hughes.
[Applause] joseph wilkins, you'll have three minutes to be followed by
francis ferguson.
Joseph debogy, for the special needs housing coalition, and we are a
consortium of consumers of mental health services, chemical dependent
services and providers of housing for that population. One of the keys
to successful outcomes for those with special needs is effective case
management, and this is one of the problems. Mhmr, for example, is being
devastated by an explosion in the special needs population. At the
present rate of their enrollment, in two years they should have 25,000
clients. They presently have over 900 applicants waiting for enrollment
for clinical services, and although they do have a mandate for housing,
they've been unable to meet that because of the crisis they have merely
for clinical services, and the -- each -- each case manager -- each hmr
case manager has 500 clients, which makes case management capability
practically impossible. One of the members of our housing coalition has
three boarding houses where they have been training case managers,
resident case managers, and this is a program we're entering into, is
the training of case managers. Five states have done that successfully,
and what i would ask for from the city council and the mayor is that
rather than have periodic meetings to discuss long-term goals, that we
meet an immediate crisis and that we expand -- the mayor stone, the
mental health task force, and what I would ask for and our coalition
would ask for, is a motion from the council to have that task force
expand itself and coordinate mental illness with housing and other
cogent crises and to initiate immediate meetings to involve all
stakeholders to discuss our proposal and also other proposals that have
been presented by the last few presenters to remedy a state mate that
now now -- stalemate that now exists for the mentally ill, for the
chemically dependent, for the housing, for those in prisons so we can
keep people out of hospitals and keep them out of prisons, which our
prisons are fast becoming hospitals for the mentally ill. Thank you.
[Applause] thank you, mr. debogy. Ms. ferguson. You too will have three
minutes, to be followed by dora louise, to be followed eve mira montez.
Thanks for letting us speak. I serve as chair of housing works
austin. Housing works brings together developers, home builders, major
employers, neighborhood leaders, people from the faith community and all
parts of town to support policies that support the vision that the
voters support of all kinds of homes in all parts of town. First of all
I'd like to congratulate you and your staff. The market study you've
just released is an outstanding accomplishment, and it clearly documents
what you're hearing about today, and I think if you just stand back and
intuitively look you know that we've been moving home ownership in that
price range of 100 to $200,000 out of the city limits for many years and
folks who need rental housing until $425 have very few places to turn,
and yet that's about an $8 an hour job, so there's lots of people who
need that housing. The -- we've been working with the urban land
institute, real estate council of austin and austin area research
organization to be looking at how to close these gaps, and we're
developing a separate discussion piece there, but we really view the
consolidated plan as an important tool for you-all to use, for us to use
as a city to really address what you just saw come out in the market
study. We think the market study is accurate and well done, and so we
need to close the gap. We need numerical goals all over town so that --
because what we can see and what we have documented is that if you -- if
you look to the market to solve this problem, you end up with income
segregation and income segregation leads to all the problems of
concentrated poverty and increased crime, schools that can't succeed, et
cetera, et cetera. So we really urge you to take advantage of this time
with the consolidated plan to, to enter a comprehensive plan which is
that we close the gaps and that we have numerical goals all over town
for supportive housing, affordable rent, and we'll also have to look at
other kinds of policies around planning and construction rules for home
ownership. Finally, we certainly understand the city can't do this
alone, just as the previous gentleman said, the cities are uniting, go
to the state on supportive housing. We're working at a state level to go
for additional state funding for affordable housing trust at the state
level we'll probably need cooperation of other governmental entities and
you certainly can't solve it just through your housing department
because they have money but they don't have all those other land
infrastructure and those things. So it's a city-wide problem but we look
forward to your leadership to using the plan for a citywide housing plan
and not just how to allocate public funds. thank you, ms. ferguson. Dara
ruiz, sorry if i mispronounced that, welcome.
Hello, I'm dara ruiz, I'm a case manager with safe place. I work with
families and individuals that have experienced domestic violence and
sexual assault. Specifically I worked for a program called passages.
It's a transitional housing program for families that are leaving our
family shelter and trying to rebuild their lives and move back into the
community. The program particularly that I want to discuss is the tbra
housing voucher program that helps families with subsidized rent for one
year move back into the community so they can focus on their education,
their employment. Most importantly stability in keeping their family
safe. It's really important and it's a very important program for our
families that enter into safe place. It allows them to be able to not
gain -- if they lost their jobs due to domestic violence, get their jobs
back and really focus on their education. It's so incredibly important.
Also, with the passages program and the tbra housing program, we help
pay their rent, utilities, housing deposit, and this really -- this
one-year program allows them to be able to not only focus on their
education and their employment but create a stable housing rental
history, which is, again, a barrier to finding affordable housing. It
allows them also to wait for their time for public housing or section 8,
because, again, it takes a very, very long time. So it again allows them
to be out in the community, to work, to be successful, to stay together
as a family and stay very safe. Specifically two families that have
experienced domestic violence, the tbra voucher is accepted all over the
community, and this is really important because a lot of times families
need to relocate to different parts of the community where their abusers
don't know where they are. This is very different than if they were
accepted into public housing and they don't have a choice of where they
go. And oftentimes they go back to parts of the neighborhoods where
abusers are and family members are, so it's very important that with the
housing voucher program, that they go out into the community and they
can decide where they want to be. I'm really fortunate today to have a
client here with me that has been extremely successful using the tbra
housing voucher program, and her name is eva mare montez. She's next.
Thank you. thank you, ms. ruiz. Eva, welcome.
[Applause] you too will have three minutes to be followed by stewart hurch.
My name is eva, and this is my advocate, and without her and the tbra
I tell you, I really wouldn't know where I would be today. It's been a
struggle through the things I've been through but they helped me learn a
lot of things when I was there, you know,, support like life skills,
class in self-esteem, builds yourself back up. Money management, I've
learned a lot through that because when you're in a situation and you
don't know where to go, when you're in safe place and -- it gives you
something to look forward to, if you know what I mean. It's helped me --
I have learned structure with my family. I'm a mom of two girls and a
grandson that are with me. It learned me to have -- to be a role model
again, because things weren't going so well. It also helped me achieve
financial and emotional independence through the tbra. But I'm -- I'm
nervous so you got to excuse me. you're doing great.
My family and i, we became a lot closer since I've been more
independent and learning things all over again. I'm the happiest I've
been because of the tbra, because like I said, I would not know where I
would be today if it weren't for this program. And I finally got placed
so that's another plus for us. I no longer need the tbra because I'm
doing it now. And actually I would like to say it's a really, really
good program and there is a lot of people who do benefit from it, and
other good citizens and just do what you got to do to be happy, and I
thank them for the opportunity of helping me. So thank you for your
time. thank you, ms. maramontez.
[Applause]
mayor wynn: Congratulations, and thank you to safe place, ms. ruiz.
Stewart herch, you look well. Thank you, mayor, members of the
council. I'm stewart herch, a retired city employee who lives south of
the river and like most austinites I rent. 54% Of us according to your
market study. I'm here tonight to support my brothers and sisters who
are speaking to you about very low income renters and the gap that
exists for them as well as for low-income families who continue to
struggle to try and buy their first home. To set priorities under the
consolidated plan, i recommend that you take four actions relative to
federal funding. As some of the previous speakers have mentioned, that
you increase home funding for tenant-based rental assistance, what
they've called tbra. The second thing that we've discussed in the public
hearings at the community action network and the community development
commission is expanding community development block grant funds for case
management so that tenant-based rental assistance can be much more
effective than it is. The testimony I've heard is that if we do
something on the cdbg side, it can enhance what we can do on the home
side. The third recommendation is to maximize the home allocation, to
build the capacity of our not for profits when the -- who in the housing
business we call choatas, community housing organizations, so they can
build low cost housing for low cost renters and low income home buyers.
We also need to seek a hud waiver and repay our debt sooner rather than
later for the millennium youth center and the austin resource center for
the homeless. Our gold card, we've been making minimum payments on. The
time has come to pay off the debt and free up that cdbg money so that by
the time our new census data is received in two years we can actually
use all our cdbg money to meet all the needs that are being described
tonight. On the non-federal side, we need to fund the housing trust fund
for new rental and home buyer counseling as well as for new rental and
home buyer construction, and I have three resources for you to do that
that don't cause you to take away from anybody else. Repay the fee
waivers from the non-complying smart housing builders. They've put a lot
of money in the general fund. None of it has come back to affordable
housing. Secondly, send all the nhcd and hfc program income into that
fund. You'll have a readily available source every year to help make
that fund work, and third, put the property tax revenue that you receive
under what we affectionately call the alvarez resolution, former council
member raul alvarez since 2000 has got us to dedicate former tax revenue
on former city sites to affordable housing. That money if it goes into
the housing trust fund will make sure there will be sufficient funding
for that trust fund. And finally I want to humbly suggest that we
recognize that what warren buffet said about his own company applies to
us. I violated the noa rule. Predicting rain doesn't count. Building a
does. Thank you very much. thank you very much, mr. hurch.
[Applause] ?a marilyn hartman? Marlin hartman signed up wishing to give
us testimony, as has eric bloomberg. I saw eric earlier. Thanks for your
patience, eric. You too will have three minutes to be followed by
douglas crawford, sorry, after we hear from marilyn. In fact, eric,
you're welcome to come over to this podium here and be ready to go when
marilyn finance.
Good evening. I'm marilyn hartman, I'm a member of the national
alliance on mental illness and I'm the parent of a son receiving
medication management through austin-travis county mental health and
mental retardation. I'm here to speak for those mentally ill who cannot
speak for themselves. And first may I say I'm disappointed that the
housing survey does not consider the mentally ill, who of systematically
over the years been ignored, undeserved, been in unlicensed homes,
discriminated and abused. I know you are concerned about public safety.
The numbers associated with mental illness are staggering. Mental
illness affects one in five families, including suicide it accounts for
over 15% of the burden of disease in the united states, more than caused
by all cancers. It's the leading cause of disability for ages 15 to 44.
6% Of the general population has a severe mental illness. These are
people who can't care for themselves. 6%. That's a very high number. So
what do we have? Too many homeless on the streets of austin, a very high
percentage who are mentally ill, and not receiving treatment. Jails and
prisons overcrowded because 25% are non-violent mentally ill, likely
with substance abuse as well, who would not be there if they had
received the services they needed. There are 1,000 people,
approximately, on the mh side of atcmhmr waiting for services. This is
up from 600 something six months ago. The mentally ill cannot wait for
treatment, and if they do, they may be self-medicating on drugs or
alcohol, which increases their risk of engaging in criminal activities
tenfold. Recidivism is 50% in this group. And there are people cycling
in and out of state hospitals where they may be discharged before they
are sufficiently stable because there's a shortage of beds. And then
they show up in emergency rooms that are not equipped to handle them.
What does the person coming out of the state hospital, the mentally ill
coming out of the jail and the mentally ill homeless all have in common?
There is no housing that is safe, publicly funded or otherwise
affordable and has the care support services that they need to continue
on the road to recovery rather than on the road to recidivism or
rehospitalization. My personal story relates directly to the need for
housing with care supports. My 34-year-old son is a wonderful human
being. He's never been in jail. He's not a substance abuser and he's
very bright. He's a graduate of yale university, but about nine years
ago -- I'm sorry, may I continue my personal story? if you can take a
moment to conclude, yes, ma'am.
Was diagnosed with schizophrenia nine years ago, has been severely
disabled by his illness. For the first three years he cycled in and out
of mental hospitals 13 times, staying in several for the maximum three
months. The last time six years ago at austin state hospital, or ash.
For most of that time he had an apartment, but four walls and a ceiling
were not enough. We were fortunate to be able to place him at the mary
lee foundation here in austin, and in the six years he's lived there he
has not been hospitalized once. Here's what made the difference. Besides
feeling safe there that his 24-hour on-site staff and policies that
ensure he stays on his medications and avoids substance abuse, staff
takes him to his medical appointments, prepares food, work with him on
caring for himself and his surroundings and provide opportunities for
him to socialize with individuals like himself, free of stigma. My son
and many others need this kind of care, and it's unaffordable,
unfortunately, to those people. That's why we do need public funding for
this kind of housing. Thank you.
Mayor wynn: thank you. , Ms. hartman.
[Applause] eric wilkins,.
Thank you very much mayor, and council members, for the opportunity.
Having a home is a universal human need and one that is necessary for
adequate psychological health. Without a home people have trouble
recovering their health, becoming self-sufficient and reclaiming valued
roles in their families and communities. Unfortunately many people with
serious mental illness are extremely poor, and that poverty combined
with the lack of affordable housing and support services in our nation's
communities cause people with comenl illness to cycle among jails,
institutions, shelters and the streets, to remain an unnecessarily -- to
remain unnecessarily in institutions or to live in seriously substandard
housing. We have heard about the needs in this community for people who
have disabilities, who are homeless. I have a possible solution. I have
researched and looked into a program that is used in dozens of states
throughout the united states. Unfortunately not yet in texas. It is
called a bridge rental subsidy program. It is a program whereby funds
such as home funds or hop funds, through tenant-based rental assistance
are provided for that assistance until a person receives a person
housing resource such as a section 8 voucher. In other words, if a
person has a disability, is homeless, and is on the section 8 waiting
list, they are eligible for bridge rental subsidies. In other words,
they can move directly into a home that has been inspected by hud where
the landlord accepts those vouchers and they can then live in that home
until their name comes up on the section 8 waiting list and they can
continue to live in that home, because the bridge rental subsidy would
be replaced by the same amount of a section 8 voucher. I talked recently
-- by the way, I've worked for mhmr, austin-travis county mhmr and I'm
the consumer liaison at that facility, at that agency. I talked recently
with the director of our access path program, which deals with mentally
ill folks who are homeless. We have 400 of those folks who are currently
on our roles. 100 Of them at this particular time are on the section 8
waiting list. If the city were to put into their consolidated plan to
recommend the development of a bridge rental subsidy program, it is
quite possible that all 100 of those people currently living on the
streets of austin with a serious mental illness could be in a home, have
a roof over their heads. They could continue to receive services from
mhmr, and they would stand a heck of a better chance of recovering from
their mental illness or substance use disorder than they stand today.
Thank you very much.
[Applause]
mayor wynn: thank you. Welcome, mr. crawford. Let's see, is vaughn
harris here by chance? Hello, mr. harris. crawford, she's offered to
donate her three minutes to you so you'll have up to 6 minutes if you
need it and you'll be follo christa.
Thank you. I will need every bit of it. I'm very thankful to be here
today. I see familiar faces. Councilman sheryl cole. The last time I saw
you was at the memorial for the homeless. Mayor, last time I saw you was
at sky line terrace at the ribbon cutting. Since then, mayor, I hurt
myself on the job. I hurt my back, and i couldn't pay my rent. I got
evicted. I'm very passionate about what we're doing here today. I'm a
survivor. I recovered. I spent six months homeless, and now I'm
[indiscernible] caritas. I'm in my place program and I'm going back to
college. I have to retrain. I can't do what I used to do. I spent a
month and a half camping out. I got two camping tickets. I did community
service to take care of that. I get involved with the arch and
[indiscernible] two very powerful organizations and i love them and I
pray that you will always help them. They've helped me and many people
like me, who may have had problems in the past, to be able to get our
lives back together, and it's because of that I'm where i am today and
involved where I'm involved with. I spoke with support programs from the
arch, came right as, my place, sky line terrace, spring terrace, garden
terrace. I also support any kind of education and training rewards
programs that are out there for the homeless. Education is the key. It
help people be able to discover what they have within themselves. It
also gives them tools to take and find themselves employable jobs so
they can become a tool to the community. I can't afford housing in
today's market. I just got denied by ssidi, got my denial letter. I
don't believe that I have to go that route. I believe I can -- I have an
iq of 128. I believe our president has about that iq. I believe the one
before him had less. The fact is I'm a very smart man, but the problem
is i made a lot of bad decisions in my life. I suffered lot of trauma. I
suffer from posttraumatic stress disorder. I suffer from clinical
depression and I suffer from adhd. I'm here on behalf of a lot of people
that have mental illness. I'm also -- I've got a drug addiction problem.
I've been clean for 21 months. Special needs and housing coalition,
which I like to call sync, is an organization of people that take care.
We have housing out there available to people who have mental illness,
like harris, she runs three of them in the city. There are badz one out
there but she runs good ones, i believe with a proven track record we
can get the rights ones out there and help them broaden their respective
area. We need accountability and we need homes that work. Personally for
the organization, I'm a resident manager in training and what I do is
train people to be able to take on the responsibility of looking at over
people, to make sure a home run is right, and they can take actions
they'll be held accountable for, train people, make sure they go to
classes, make sure they go out and look for jobs. These are the things
that i do, and I also work with the shack, I don't know if you know what
the shack is but it's part of the mental health consumers here in
austin, and I do all this because I want people to succeed. I can't find
work right now so I volunteer approximately 40, 50 hours a week. That's
what I do. I want you-all to take a good look at what you're doing. I
want you-all to help out people, because not all people that are
homeless are
[indiscernible] and not all people who are homeless are failures. Some
of us out there, we live in fear because we don't know, people just
don't care, and we get categorized. We got put, labeled. You walk down
there to arch 00 in the morning, I can see why you might put a label on
people that are homeless, but if you walk into arch and look at the few
people that are in there that are actually taking advantage of the
programs, that are actually doing the right things, it would change your
views. It would actually show you that what is happening is important.
We have made progress. Right now what we need to do is get the groups
together. We need to get some different organizations together. We need
to get people together and I highly request that you get communication
going. I ask that you take and put these organizations together, hold
them accountable but also look at what works. Explore it. Make a
committee. Do whatever you have to do to find out what the solution is
to our problem. I don't want to be homeless again. I don't want to be --
i promise -- reduce it by one. I said I'm going to try to reduce it
completely. It's a promise I couldn't keep. But I want to help as many
people I can and I want to lower that rate of death on the streets in
the city of austin. I can't do it nationwide but I can do it right here
as best I can. I turned my life around almost two years ago because I
camped 100 yards away from a woman who got murdered, and I went to the
cell vacation army arc for ten months, and I went to sky line terrace,
and I got hurt. I tried all kinds of -- you know, what, there's people
out there like me who want a chance, and people out there like me who
want to do the right thing for the right reasons. Do your best, and
don't let people like me end up dead on the streets. Thank you.
[Applause] thank you, crawford, and ms. harris. Welcome, ms. nolan. You
too will have three minutes to be followed by frank fernandez.
Good evening, mayor wynn and city council members. My name is
costanola and i work for the community partnership for the homeless and
I'm going to start with three broad strategies and end with four
specific strategies. I'm going to talk fast so i apologize, I'm trying
to get through it all. First we want to prioritize preservation and
rehabilitation of affordable housing especially west of i-35 and in
central austin. Second, homeless prevention and support for families at
risk for homelessness. Third, increase the inventory of permanent
supported housing, not emergency shelter. The specific strategies. The
first one is to continue to execute city partnerships with local choatas
for local housing development. For example, land ownership. The second,
tbra's, a hot topic this week. Broaden the definition from chronic
homeless to include the special needs population of disabled, aging and
families that are impacted by domestic violence. Currently in the past
five years only 50% of tbra funds have been spent. Additional funds are
not necessarily needed. We just need a broader definition and
potentially additional providers to utilize and spend down 100% of the
funds we're receiving. With tbra we would also like to see a housing
stabilization pilot in a neighborhood with extremely high mobility
rates, such as pecan springs elementary. This pilot could positively
impact the schools, decrease homelessness and help strengthen the
respective neighborhoods that the school is in. Lastly, we would like to
ask you to prioritize the housing first model when considering your
future investments. Thank you. thank you, ms. nolan. Frank fernandez,
welcome. You too will have three minutes to be followed by adrian moore.
Good evening, everyone. You've heard a lot of good testimony so I
won't try to rehash what you've already heard besides to say that I'm
very supportive of investing in folks who are very low income. The only
thing I would say we've always had this big gap, folks in poverty,
struggling with homelessness, and this will only guess worse because of
the economic times we're heading into over the next year or two and it's
important we invest in that now. What I'd like to mostly do is just
testify as the -- for the choato roundtable and testify about what we're
concerned to as concerns the conn plan. The first thing is we have a
good, robust nonprofit community here. What we don't have, though, is
enough folks doing -- or enough folks doing it at a certain scale,
because the reality is the kind of housing everyone has been talking
about today, for the most part your private developers are not going to
do. It's really the nonprofit their going to do the yeoman's work on it
and for that to happen we have to help them get to scale and that means
investing in -- to help non-profits get to do that. That's a critical
way we'll be able to address that gap we have currently. A second point
that I would want to emphasize is really thinking about when we're
looking at the conn plan, as francey said, it's not just about funding
allocations, it's a planning document. And thinking about what you-all
documented in two years ago from -- the task force, deeper
affordability, long-term affordability and geographic dispersion. Right
now the core bonds does a good job but that extended to how we plan, and
a couple very important quick examples are thinking about publicly owned
land. It's kind of been alluded to. And the reality is, again, if we're
going to get any type of affordable lower income housing west of i-35 or
any kind of scale, it's really about having a more active city and
thinking about some of the land they have, what is the best and highest
use, because as manies of you recall, in my organization, was embroiled
in a very highly contested project and a lot of what people's concerns
were about is why is this only east of i-35? And you only address that
concern when you start -- are able to do more projects on the west side,
and that is about the city stepping up and taking part in that. Another
specific point i would raise is thinking about tax credits. Tax credits
are going to be one of the primary funding mechanisms that we have for
being able to achieve affordability not only in, you know -- east austin
but around tod's and west of i-35 and right now the city consistent with
core values, should be thinking about how can it prioritize projects
that meet those core values that are geographically dispersed, that are
affordability, that do speak to long-term. So thank you. thank you,
frank, for all your work.
[Applause] adrian moore, I believe is our final speaker. mayor, and
council members. My name is adrian moore. I'm executive director of the
council on at risk youth here in austin. We're a private nonprofit 50 1c
3 with a mission of helping you promote safe schools and safe
communities. With your support and the support of many others we serve
about 600 high-risk kids who are at risk of violence each year. There's
a relationship between youth violence and problems and issues in
communities and in homes and with homelessness issues and so on. I have
circulated a handout. I think youth violence is a serious problem in
austin. You will note, if you will look very quickly, that in the past
decade for school-age kids, 10 through 20. We have more than 100 arrests
for murders, 1200 for aggravated robbery, 2,000 for aggravated assault,
15,000 for other assaults. I know that austin is rated as the second
safest city in the nation. We're proud of that, but that is relative,
and we need to remind ourselves, we need to look back at the data and
remind ourselves that we need to take more assertive action at youth
violence prevention. It's a public health issue. It's a community issue.
It's a neighborhood issue. We do need to address ourselves to it. A
community action report in 2000 entitled "public safety crime prevention
and victimization" called for a balance between funding for
incarceration and funding for prevention and intervention. So council --
at risk use is hopeful that you will prioritize youthful violence
prevention highly so that we don't repeat in this decade the kinds of
figures we haved in the past ten years. Thank you so. thank you, mr.
moore. Council, that's all the folks who have signed up to give us
testimony on this public hearing in order for us to receive citizen
input. Comments, questions? Council member martinez? No? shaw, do you
want to help us remember what the next few steps are now?
Thank you, mr. mayor. You are very good at this process after a few
years on the dais, but yes, I just wanted to remind folks and folks at
home that we are having our last community needs assessment hearing on
monday night, with the community development commission. 30 on monday
night, the 9th, here in city hall in the boards and commissions room. We
appreciate everybody who comes out to these meetings both at council and
all the other hearings. It does make a real difference in helping the
staff draft that plan. Thank you very much and appreciate your attention
tonight. thank you, ms. shaw. Again, further questions of staff,
council? Comments? If not, I guess technically this was a public
hearing, so motion by council member martinez, seconded by council
member shade, to close the public hearing. All in favor please say aye.
Aye.
Mayor wynn: aye. Opposed? Motion to close the public hearing passes
on a vote of 7-0. There being no more business before the city council,
we now stand adjourned. It is 8:29:00 p.m.
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